and then they energize a movement of people who would not otherwise be energized. let me make this very clear, i do not think there would be any significant movement without a leader and that leader is the former president. stop done. >> you think it's dangerous what he's saying? >> yeah because if you look at the number of people involved in this, even if you have only 700 people coming to the capitol, think of how many people do they represent? 500,000? 5 million? a percentage of them will say democracy is under such threat because of the guidance they're receiving from leadership, democracy is under such threat i have to commit an act of violence. there's a sliver of people who are extremists who think they're being inspired to do something violent. it's mathematics, john. >> like you just said, this is a conundrum because you need intelligence in every state and that's just impossible to have, to really have a good sense of what the problem is. and the same organizer of tomorrow's rally has actually