national press conference. he said this about coomer. he said exactly what role he played, i had no idea. it is a big company, lots of people do different things. i had no idea, nor was i particularly interested at that point. what we're also seeing in the court documents is something the new york times previously reported, that about a week before powell and giuliani made these claims about coomer and dominion in public, people on the trump campaign actually put together a memo specifically debunking key points of those claims. however, in these court documents, we're not seeing any indication that the memo was actually ever shared with giuliani or powell. now, there are several cases here, where state officials are seeking sanctions for these false election claims. and in fact, in august, a federal judge actually sanctioned sydney powell among others, the judge saying this, the question before the court is whether plaintiffs attorneys engaged in litigation practices that are abusive and in turn