among private citizens. the observation we made several times on this air is that steve bannon wasn't a member of the white house, so the executive privilege presumably doesn't stretch that far. doesn't stretch beyond the confines of the white house itself, john. as you mentioned, the former president suing to try to block the records. the committee knew that this was going to happen. so now the timeline continues. very likely why they put the steve bannon subpoena at the beginning of their investigation because they know the clock could extend here, so they're trying to get this calendar going. the concrete movements tonight to watch are the vote -- the votes coming out of the house committee, then again on to the house floor. so a few outstanding questions, but something to watch. >> we have seen the delay game before. this is a new frontier. whitney wild, thank you very much. joining us to discuss all of this is former u.s. attorney and host of the talking feds podcast, harry litman. it is great to see you. help make sense of this for us. you got the january 6th