consensus reform just dealing with the electoral count act of 1887. what we saw on january 6th, the rules of presiding over the certification of a presidential election, that law dictates what that looks like. obviously it wasn't very clear because donald trump and his allies thought they could drive a mac truck through it and get mike pence to overturn the election. they couldn't. but there is a movement on the right that says, hey, we'll get on board with some kind of election reform, it could reform this law. of course, that will be totally insufficient to democrats who are looking for actual fortifying and securing of voting rights in the country. >> i will say that law is written so poorly and convolutedly that any reform would be welcome there. like cdc mask guidelines. it is, like, it makes no sense at all. finally, david, this was really interesting to me, jeff weaver, who, of course, is bernie sanders' guy, his former campaign manager and campaign chair did an interview with politico. this is what weaver said. he was asked about joe biden