scott better known as the property brothers from hdtv, their new series is called backed by the bros. jonathan and truth. thank you both for being here. first of all, i should disclose that i've spent amounts of time that i will not amounts i will not specify watching your show. >> i think as borderline style. >> yeah. my husband is sick of me, will always wanted to renovate, but putting that aside the housing market is such a huge part of what's going on in this economy. what is going on there is this kind of bump i mean, it's so so hard to predict what's going on, but i think when we look at the issue right now, there's a housing crisis, there's there's a density issue on top of the rates and people are looking for ways to build a for their house. >> i think that the big thing for us is trying to help homeowners figure out how they can afford to be where they want to be as it makes sense to you, that we would see those trends ends at the same time that we're seeing all these factors that are actually intended to reduce spending on