through a lot. we all as a nation felt the tragedy of 9/11, but new york had a special pain to it. and so to that extent i think it is a good idea. people want to see him, you know, tried somewhere like gitmo. we want to close gitmo, so you don't want him there. all of that makes sense. my only problem is this creates more of a spectacle and it becomes extremely costly to have a crocodile like this in new york. it puts the big red terrorist bull's eye on new york city. i'm not sure it is a safest or financially smart thing to do. but it does help the city heal, so i can go either way with this. >> we'll go to clinton here in a minute. i jumped ahead. we're talking about how osama bin laden's son-in-law will be tried in manhattan and not at all in guantanamo bay. and we're also hearing from some republicans who are absolutely livid. let me jump in, who say he should be tried in guantanamo, specifically reading a quote from mike rogers saying, quote, we should treat enemy combatants like the enemy, the u.s. court system is not the appropriate venue. the president needs to send any captured al qaeda members to