>> live and in person. >> why are we seeing more of these plots this wards? law enforcement are doing this all along? >> there's a combination of factors in place, one is obvious, focus on this particular threat, we see this case of the one 16-year-old girl, she's an outlier, we shouldn't focus on her all the other cases are white meant fbi is looking for it, friends and family are now cognizant this is no joke. and i think there's a little bit of a -- almost all these guys are advertising it, they're publicizing it, as if it's like a co-worker -- >> as if we're waiting for the nilsson ratings, part of that is new, but it means they're getting caught so far before any of these mass shootings.