partial democracy begins organizing itself not around political ideology but around race, ethnicity and religions. those are the types of countries that tend to experience civil war, and when countries had those two factors, we put them on a watch list for our government to monitor. and the reason i wrote my book was because i started to see these two factors emerging here in my own country, and i felt that the american public needed to know this. >> and barbara, i mean, one of the things people were saying after trump left office, well, trudge may not be around, but trumpism is still here, but i think we're looking at a situation we're going to have trump and trumpism. what does that mean for this country? >> that means that these two factors are not going away. that we could easily get another president in power. it could be trump, but the republican party is clearly