so, gene, the georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger testified today as well. he was on that infamous call, trump looking for his 11,000 votes, what do you think his testimony will mean for mark meadows overall arguments? he basically said the call was political, and to what trump was asking him was inappropriate. >> he the thing he did the hurt as cases he said he was acting on behalf of donald trump. you can complain about how a blanket ambush your money, but you can't rob it. so, with trump did is he devised a scheme to affect the electoral votes and he brought mark meadows in to help him execute the scheme. the other thing mark meadows did that came out of that hearing is he violated the hatch dock and you cannot under any circumstances claim color of law if you're violating the hatch jack. so he, shot himself in the foot. >> he saying everything i edward waters university did, broadly speaking was part of my responsibility because as the president of the united states anything that he wants goes. >> well, it has limitations. the hatch had says you can only