what did you make of what he to say of his argument? >> drake was involved in -- he basically lost his point of view in a competition for certain symptoms at the agency. issue as to who was right about that, he may have been wright. nothi nothing wrong with the way he conducted that. he decided to leak information to "the baltimore sun." he was really leaking classified information. i thought it was a terrible thing -- i thought he was overprosecuted under the espionage act. i thought it was ridiculous. >> you thought prosecution of him for giving material to "baltimore sun" under 1970 espionage was in itself a wrongful act. >> not a wrongful act. bad politics, bad law. we create people like mr. drake who have become a force to be