fox came on the record and called it bizarre that trump was speculating about her vacation plans. do you think the truce will hold between these two titans of media and business? >> i have no idea. and i'm not privy to the conversations. presidential politics is about big, sweeping issues. this is all process. donald trump is running against 15 pigmies and a brilliant brain surgeon. he is not running against fox news. the american people want to see him run but with iran and china. this is all process and maybe we're interested in it because we're junkies and we are into the political thing. >> sure. >> but the voters, they want to see your big-picture vision. >> if these tensions worsen between fox and trump, do you think it's possible for him to win without fox? >> well, fox is, as i said earlier, reaching a disproportionate number of the voters and they're going to play a major role in the republican party. >> so maybe it's not possible? >> it's very hard to say.