>> you met him multiple times. >> did you think to say, don't talk like that. some idiot kit will take your seriously? >> the media wants to find the young men making jokes that are a middle finger to folks like yourself that are so -- >> of course it can be that. but you can also mean it. when did you become anti antis-semitic? >> 34. >> oh. >> not that long ago comparatively to my life. i've been conservative, right? my exposure to people on twitter that we're making a lot of sense. there was a meme actually. this one says it's impossible to round up 11 million people and ship them somewhere you stupid consecutive and this guy says why are you denying the holocaust? it's easy to sell this. >> how does your family feel