are 17. >> what year is that? >> 1605. >> more than 400 years. >> incredible. >> yes, this family has been making vinegar since 1605, when the mayflower pilgrims were still in sunday school. >> so both red and white grapes? >> the nature of the grapes led to the happy accident of vinegar. they turn more easily into vinegar than fine wine. >> i keep hearing it's a trait where you take something that is not quite what it should be and turn it into something special. >> yeah, it becomes even super special. >> let's go and look at them. >> but we're not heading down to a damp wine cellar, we are headed upstairs to an attic, the traditional place to aging vinegars, so they are exposed to changing temperatures.