sandberg clone. a lot of people cannot do what she did. >> there are worse things. >> you take what you can get out of it and use what's relevant to your own life. if everybody can take a been step forward, the world would be a better place. >> is it a movement? >> we consider it a community, and the goal is bringing men and women together. >> of the 62,000, how many are men? >> i don't know the number on that we've had a lot of interest from men, and not just doing it because it's altruistic. we want to do better things for women. they are doing it, because self-servingly, we will do better if we draw from the whole population. more balanced teams are more effective and more balanced households are happier. >> interesting. and anybody with a daughter would say i have a vested interest in not seeing my daughter dealing with some of the things my spouse is dealing with. the book is a great read. i've enjoyed it.