there is that dichotomy in that there is a conversation to be had but as nancy employee say said, it is not now and they have a lot more to prove they can work and governor before they can have that. >> let me move you in a slightly different direction. nancy pelosi's statement about being covered as a woman of power, this is off the hillary clinton statement. do you think that the media statement covers women differently? >> yeah, i do. i think the media -- well, any reporter, any journalist is going to reflect his or her own experiences, and it's inevitable. when it comes to members of the media when it comes to whims that is an issue, we've seen it with candidates across the gord. it often is the fact the media reacts. you see political opponents bringing up issues that are gender code and the media ends