federal campaign finance laws. so are you saying that even if that's true? he shouldn't have been charged and that he's above the law what i'm saying is that these prosecutors are using someone as who's testimony has been proven to be a liar. >> michael cole has lied before congress multiple times. that's their main witness. i would say that he certainly is not someone who can be trusted to do the right thing. during this jury trial, they're also using a woman's testimony who signed a letter saying that this affair did not happen, that she has testified in the past that this never occurred. and so now they're going forward with the case built on that and saying that because donald trump paid his legal bills, that now he can be prosecuted for something that even the person that alleged it happened is saying did not happen. so that's what is so shocking to me. i guess dana is that when i'm walking around this state and talking to people, talking to people across the country. they don't even know which trial this is. they're like, i don't remember which one this wasn't about is this the one they're coming