issues with congress over executive privilege and your administration, the one i served in, did as well. they're taken a tough line on this issue of executive privilege. do you think that ultimately the courts will compel these people to testify? >> yes. i don't think that the executive privilege that might have existed still is in existence. the fact that mcgahn actually spoke to bob mueller waives the privilege that might have existed and he and others will have to testify. >> if there is no impeachment, do you believe that he is subject to prosecution after he leaves office? >> i don't think there's any question about that and we have an indictment. >> relative to the payoffs. michael cohen is already in jail with regard to his role and individual one is the president and it would seem to me that the next attorney general, the next