should be doing to get this done? >> look, i think ultimately, jake, this is a question of -- it's a question for congress. we saw this with president trump. he blew right through a series of debt limits. went to congress and congress raised them because we at that point also knew we were not going to default on our debt. and so the fact that republicans were all for spending under donald trump but now have developed again an appetite for fiscal austerity for bills they have already incurred, many which are programs they voted for. again, i agree with mia here. it's why people get fed up and frustrated with washington. the good news is it looks like people that count on medicare or medicaid or social security, shouldn't have to worry. >> and congresswoman love, the senate raised the debt ceiling three times in a row under president trump on a bipartisan basis every time. look at those votes. 80-17. 71-28.