lifeless individuals. these are people that could be part of a major part of our future and so we lose this intellectual capacity, intellectual accounts of people that are going out by death, threat to our national security if my opinion. >> mayors, i want to ask you this. do you think that too many people make too many excuses for young people and for their parents and their family that -- many ways and maybe the media is as well, do we coddle people way too much? first, mayor landrieu and then mayor nutter. >> i completely agree with what your panelist said. we spent $14 billion during the wars in iraq, afghanistan, and the war on drugs. standing up police departments in those countries with what weigh call nation building. the other thing, too, is i don't think the nation has really adopted the opinion that was just stated. this is a catastrophic problem that affects the whole country.