joe biden as a senator, as a vice president, as a candidate, and as a president, he has talked a lot about democracies versus autocracies. he's talked a lot about that recently because of his fears of the united states being pulled in the direction of an autocracy. but here we have a full throated, full fledged autocracy, russia, and a dictator, vladimir putin, that he is confronting. >> it is. it's an extraordinarily vivid demonstration of something i think until now has been a bit abstract for people. they understand this is sort of hovering over geopolitics, but here we have in the most dramatic and brutal fashion a demonstration of this contest of systems which really goes back not just the last two years but really all the way back to 2014 when vladimir putin invaded ukraine at the time, and interestingly enough, if you go back, what biden was saying then was what happens to ukraine is