he mentions biden's son and he mentions it a few times. that's why i say it's unfortunate. it's bad judgment. very bad judgment. but it doesn't come close in my view to being a crime or to being impeachable. and that's the problem. >> laura: we're having words like extortion used. shakedown. these terms are casually thrown around by even lawyers. speaking of lawyers, the media have been desperately trying to tag and drag bill barr, the attorney general, someone we all three of us know quite well. into this fray. take a look. >> is barr going to now recuse himself again? >> i don't see how he can't recuse himself in light of the fact that he's named. >> i think attorney general barr should absolutely recuse. >> how can bill barr not recuse himself? >> level 1 to 10.one being the d