are guy guys involved in this. the washington swamp people are going to come after me like crazy because they can't face it. everything we are talking about is almost irrelevant grade is kamala harris weren't a phony, she would be saying i'm shocked that a vice president of the united states sold out his office for $8 million and we haven't gotten to china yet or at least a sold out his office again. ukraine and china, they believe they bossed the president of united states. how can you talk to you the ukraine about russia if you're being corrupted? biden is completely discredited. >> laura: as a lawyer though, i think it's confusing. i just want to understand it it's confusing to people. were you acting as the presiden president's personal representative interfacing with state? or were you working as kind of a pseudo-government emissary working to ferret out corruption in the ukraine?