threat to the homeland. it will make it more difficult to defend ourselves and for our adversaries to fear us and friends to trust us. >> neil: i'm sure you're aware that president trump in a number of interviews said this would no have happened if he was in charge. what do you think? >> he set this in motion. he began the process of negotiating with the taliban. he said the taliban was going to kill terrorists on our behalf. he praised the taliban. he apparently wanted to invite them to camp david. so he fundamentally misunderstood the situation on the ground. he did real damage to our partners, the afghan government by excludeing them from the negotiations. so the idea that you can sit at a table and negotiate with the taliban, count on them to defend our security is wrong. we heard a lot of things from president trump and secretary pompeo that were wrong. again, president biden is the