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>> you could have killed bin laden. >> yeah, i could have. >> bill: caution. you are about to enter the no spin zone. "the factor" begins right now. >> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. violence picks up in the occupy wall street protest. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. as you may know, my pal, glenn beck, believes the protest movement is just the beginning of a world wide far left revolt. beck bases his assessment on what's happening in greece, italy ask other places. but trying to cut back on entitlement spending and protesters are going wild. with the economy bad pretty much everywhere, there is some sympathy for these kinds of protests around the globe. talking points is not quite as agitated as beck is, but we are watching the situation very closely here in the usa. and there is no question that the violent component of the demonstrations is on the rise. right now the occupiers are clustered in 20 american cities with new york being the center piece. so far more than 900 protesters have been arrested in this city. the cost of the demonstrations is approaching $4 million, which will be borne by the new york taxpayer. in oakland, california, things are getting rowdy, according to some reporters on the scene. >> the tone out here has changed. we have been threatened. they were telling us if we tried to take our cameras into the plaza and into the camp area, they would take our cameras and break them. >> tonight constitutional rights were tread on. tv crews were man handled by occupation protesters. our cameras nearly flung to the ground following what amounted to an edict by occupation organizers. >> we ask that you point your cameras towards city hall and not towards the tents. >> claiming we weren't asking consent to videotape while in a public place, one dog went after a local reporter. that dog's teeth snagged on his suit coat. it's the only thing that saved his arm. >> bill: talking points believes there is now danger, people being hurt and killed because some of these protesters are out of control? in cleveland, there is an allegation that one of the protesters raped a woman. and whenever you have thousands of people emotionally charged, anything could happen. america honors protest, it's part of our tradition, makes the country strong. but as we have been reporting, the occupy wall street demonstrations are not just about economics. you have radical people stirring up trouble and according to a recent survey, 31% of the new york city protesters believe using violence is okay in order to accomplish their goals. the authorities must continue to be restrained, but they also must have very definite rules. any law breaking has to be prosecuted. any threats have to be taken seriously. "the factor" is all over the story because we believe it has the potential to get out of hand. and it does. and that's a memo. now for the top story, let's go out to the bay area for analysis. joining us, the former mayor of san francisco, willie brown. first of all, you know the turf. you know kgo and i guess it's cbs affiliate out there. i forget the call letters. these aren't anti-protest stations. yet they're getting a hard time by some of these protesters. what say you? >> well, i tell you that over in oakland, i'm surprised because there are -- there has been some misunderstanding about your right to protest, where you can do it, and what you have in terms of the control of the turf on which you think you can protest. it's just not healthy as it now stands and the mayor in oakland is going to have a very difficult time of ultimately controlling it. on the other hand, in san francisco, it's quite different. the protests were creating problem ons the sidewalks in front of the federal reserve building, some conversations went down with the mayor. they relocated to another spot for their tent purposes and i would guess that slowly but surely those tents are not going to develop any tenure. that's what you have to avoid in all of these protests. you protect the right to protest, but you can not allow them to interfere with the use of space that all of us are entitled to. >> bill: what do you make of the survey by a liberal magazine here in new york city that a third of the protesters say violence is all right? what do you make of that? >> i think it does frankly a disservice to what is a legitimate opportunity to express your disagreement with the policies that have created huge unemployment and other kinds of social ills. but it is not good to have anybody look with any negative on the protests. i don't have got to have a positive response. you've got to be like martin luther king, jr. was if you want this nation to develop any sympathy. >> bill: because two things bother me about this. i don't think it's an economically based protest anymore. number two, a lot of these radical people will destroy property and hurt you for whatever reason. now, what is the difference, in your opinion, between these protests and the tea party protests? >> well, i think that obviously at this moment the tea party protesters have not incurred the wrath of the public officials on the law enforcement side as has been the case currently in oakland where the television cameras have been barred and other kinds of things of that nature. i also know that there appears not to be the kind of response to a survey about violence connected with the protest movement, as you call the tea party. but i don't think, however, that the tea party is ultimatelied as potentially universal as is the case with the occupy wall street. >> bill: let me challenge you now in that. the last election proved that the tea party is quite the clout. as they put into the house of representatives a number of people that turned the tide against the democrats in that body. now, i don't see the protests, wall street people putting anybody into any office at any time, so therefore, i think the tea party is much more powerful than this. >> be clear. many democrats in this country that are saying things like yes, we must protect the right for them to protest, frankly hoping that it will morph itself into a movement that may assist in barak obama's reelection -- >> bill: how could that be possible? if barak obama's regime -- that's a bad word. if barak obama's administration has presided now for throw years and the economy has gotten worse as it has, how can this possibly help him? it draws attention to the bad economy and he's part of the problem, is he not? >> i don't think he's part of the problem. >> bill: really? >> i think he's trying to fashion a solution. i think his current jobs proposal is one of trying to fashion a solution. >> bill: okay. but that's a liberal point of view and you're a democrat and you're entitled to it. but just strip away the politics here. you're just a guy and you've elected a guy to turn the economy around and he hasn't done it and you have to say, well, i still agree with him -- you do -- but he really hasn't done the job yet. so how can these protests highlighting that, help him? >> i think if there is an objective discussion of barak obama's performance over the last three years plus, i think you'll find that there is a sufficient case to be made for his achievements within the time frame given to him. >> bill: why then do the polls not reflect that? >> i think the polls reflect disenchantment with the whole political process. >> bill: no, with him. the specific question, how do you rate barak obama in on the economy and he's in the 30s. >> barak obama's numbers are better than any of his opponents. just go back and take a look at it. >> bill: no, they're not economically better than romney's. huh-uh. all right. go ahead, last word. >> barak obama's numbers are better than any one of his opponents. and i think he would welcome romney as his opponent. >> bill: well, he might have them. be careful what you wish for. isn't that the old adage? it could be cain -- if you get into the race and change parties, it could be you, mr. mayor. thanks for coming on. always good to see you. next on the rundown, biden tries to convince fourth graders to support the jobs bill. wait 'til you hear this. later, president obama declares an end to the iraq war. gadhafi's body apparently is in a freezer. geraldo with the latest upcoming. some vehicles sacrifice luxury to improve fuel efficiency. but the jeep grand cherokee uses advanced technology. like the quadra-lift air suspension that lowers the vehicle at highway speeds to improve aerodynamics and deliver a more than 540 mile driving range. so you can raise your standards while lowering your fuel consumption. ♪ music music music we're centurylink we're committed to improving lives and linking americans to what matters most with honest personal service 5 year price lock guarantees, consistantly fast speeds and more ways to customise your technology >> bill: impact segment, the senate said no to more parts of president obama's jobs bill last night. it's basically all about money. the republicans and a few democrats simply will not okay any more speculative spending by the federal government. mr. obama and vice president biden are determined to convince the american people their vision is correct. so mr. biden took his crusade to the good elementary school in york, pennsylvania where he talked to a fourth grade class on tuesday. >> you have had a lot of teachers who used to work here, but because there is no money for them in the city, they're not working and so what happens is when that occurs, each of the teachers in the state have more kids to teach. they don't get to spend as much time with you as you did when your classes were smaller. we think the federal government, washington, d.c. should say to the cities, lock, we're going to give you some money. you can hire back all these teachers. the way we're going to do it is we're going to ask people who have a lot of money to pay just a little bit more in taxes. >> bill: kids look thrilled. joining us now from los angeles to react, dr. carolyn hellman, and fox news analyst lesley marshall. lesley, i'm not quite getting why you want to bring your message to fourth graders who look like they want to be anywhere else. do you? >> actually i can't disagree with you on that. when i was in fourth grade, no joke, we had a democrat and republican congressional member, i won't say who, that will give away my age that, came to class. i remember them coming, what did they say? not quite sure. i think it's every politician's civic duty to go into the classrooms. i think it's great for kids to learn go government, but to pitch a jobs bill when they're not voting, i can't disagree with you on that. the kids kind of looked like, what? i definitely do -- he obviously didn't know his -- >> bill: here is the deal, biden did it because he knew he was going to get press coverage and he knew programs like mine would pick it up and that he'd get his message across, which he did, we used the sound bite, at the expense of the children looking like who is this guy and why is he torturing me, doctor? so from a political communication standpoint, it was a shrewd play, but i think it's a little exploitive and some people might be teed off. >> i think you're giving the administration too much credit. in my book, this is the second big gaffe biden made on the trail to sell this jobs bill. i think it's a real problem for the administration. and i would agree with you, it's somewhat exploitive. they were bored, but then we're all bored when politicians speak. they can't be honest, they can't be straight shooters, unfortunately, unless you're an elizabeth warren or chris christie. but in this particular case, the fact that the vice president is overshadowing the president and they're both selling the jobs plan indicates to me that maybe he's just a gaffe machine that the administration is -- >> bill: it wasn't a gaffe. they knew he was going o do it. this is designed by the white house communication staff. it's thought out very well. it's not like he made a mistake. the other day he said, lesley, that, look, more women might get raped. more people might get robbed because police aren't going to be on the streets in the numbers they would be if you ok'd this jobs bill so they could infuse local police departments and hire more people. okay. a lot of people got mad and said, oh, he's creating fear, this and that. to me, it was a point he wanted to make. let the point stand. you either agree or disagree. but this is more. this is taking a bunch of kids and using those kids for political purposes. i don't think that's good. i really don't think it's good for any political party to do that. >> i would agree with you in the sense that children should not be exploited for any one's gain in professions, politics or otherwise, left or right. but i honestly, when we say that, like you said, vice president biden said some things shocking, we're not -- we're not so shocked when it comes out of the mouth of vice president biden. but i honestly don't think -- i hear what you're saying, that it was calculated, absolutely. but i do think he was trying to tell the kids what kids need to know, which is hi, i'm the vice president. this is what we're doing in washington and this is why -- >> bill: but they're not doing it because the opposing party isn't going to okay it. so what they're really doing is telling the kids, look, we're the good guys and the other party is the bad guys and you're only nine years old and you should listen to me. it's not the way it should go down, doctor. you know it. it's not the way it should go down. >> i agree with you on that. but then again -- >> bill: consider this -- >> you know regardless of what he says and regardless of the polls showing the majority of americans in favor of this jobs bill, the republicans showed in the senate they wouldn't vote on it. >> bill: they voted on it and it got knocked down. this is a message, dr. meldman that i want to send to the vice president, if he would like to convince the nation,ford graders included, they're americans, too, that the jobs bill is worthy, i got a seat for him right here. right there. okay? you convince him. i got ten minutes for you. come right on in. but you know what? he won't. he won't come in because he knows he can't stand up to big boy questioning. he knows he can't. >> i think that he could -- >> bill: whoa! whoa! i have invited this guy for years in here and he will not. >> i really think he should come on. i don't think fourth graders are his audience and if i were on his advance team or his management team, i would be concerned every time this man goes out to give a public talk. i doubt that they thought he was going to be sing songing. >> bill: come on. now. it's got to be something with the water because cheney wouldn't come on either! what is it with these vice presidents? what is it? >> they want to live a quiet life. >> the vice presidents stay -- you never see the vice president and then a year before an election, it's like, oh, yeah. that's what he looks like. >> bill: i'm going to have to get on the amtrak and sit behind biden. maybe if i wore short pants. >> or maybe if you told him you were eight or nine. >> bill: that's the way i act. so he shouldn't have any problem. directly ahead, geraldo on the end of the iraq war and the end of gadhafi. and then waters world goes to a strange place. beyond your imagination. you don't want to miss this one, moments away. 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>> he got what he deserved, but it was savage, it was barbaric, to see them pull him out, obviously alive and if not well, basically okay and able to stand up and then really to do a job on him, then to put him naked or shirtless on the hood of the car like he was a dead deer, a little excessive. the only reason i point that out is because i believe that the lack of discipline they showed in disposing of gadhafi orthros ending his life is going to be reflected in the chaotic nature of the people who now are charged with governing this country. >> bill: so you were over there. you know what the atmosphere is like. a lot of hatred in that country. >> a lot of hatred, a lot of factionalism, tribalism, 13 different tribes, three distinct regions, all put together by colonial countries to make a difference. very little in common with each other. benghazi is one place. sirte, where the dictator made his last stand is another. tripoli, dozen metropolitan, much more westernized. we have a problem because of these cowboys what, have they done with the shoulder fired missiles? >> bill: they're showing up in arms markets in gaza and every place else. >> we don't want them to show up at the end of the runway in nairobi or the united states. >> bill: you know why they're missing, they're selling them and that's what happens. >> i have to say, the criticism of the president not acting fast enough in libya really, really misguided. he did a great job. we got the bad guy out. it cost us bargain basement rates. nobody on our side was hurt and we had a happy ending. so i think that this, like the death of -- >> bill: i don't disagree, i don't monday morning quarterback these things. i don't think it's right to do it. but i think an argument could be made that a more assertive approach would have stopped the missing arms and would have gotten the chaos a little bit more under control. but it's a what if, i think we all have to rally behind the fact that he's out of there and hope for the best over there. now iraq. i know the reason why we're pulling out, but i just want to get your assessment before i blow the eight. why do you think we're getting everybody out of there? >> the retail reason is that in the status of forces agreement in terms of the contract that we would have had to sign with iraq about leaving the troops past the end of 2011 when it was agreed, they refused to grant immunity -- >> bill: exactly right. >> and we couldn't let our troops stay there and be liable. >> bill: i want everybody to understand, geraldos, that's why we have him on -- exactly right. in the negotiation to keep 10,000 u.s. troops there, our state department said, we, if they get into trouble, we will adjudicate justice. not you. and the iraqis said, huh-uh, they step out of line, we take care of them. and no government could do that. that's impossible. so that was the game breaker. now, the unintended consequence with the iraqi government is two fold. iran celebrating big time today 'cause they can cause as much trouble as they want without any -- iraqis can't stand up to them. turkey, now sending turkish troops into northern iraq to fight the kurds. i see in six months chaos in iraq. >> i think it's very possible and i think the sunni shiite division will be -- >> bill: they'll blow things up. >> i think that's one of the reasons the government did not give in on the status of forces agreement. you know, now ahmadinejab has a situation where he has a free playing field and i think he could realistically see real civil war between the sunnies, the former powers that be and now the shiite. >> bill: we don't want to be too peculative, but this is an important question. was it worth it? >> i have to say, and it's heart breaking and i lost so many friends over there and i spent so much of my own life there in the last almost nine years that i would have much preferred in retrospect we use the drone. >> bill: we didn't have the drones at the beginning. >> well, we could have bombed his -- >> bill: they could have gotten him out. >> used a ben 52 and bombed the palace a long time. the cost, over 4,000 lives, a trillion dollars what, did we accomplish? we put the shiites in power over the sunnies and now we're leaving the field to the shiite country of iran, our arch enemy. i'm not sure we accomplished anything worth anything. >> bill: all right. can't disagree with that either. but some good things did come out of it. the best being our american military force proved itself. what a job they did. best in the world. and now they're battle trained in case anything else comes up, we've already won a very difficult situation. geraldo rivera, plenty more ahead as "the factor" moves along. lou dobbs on the flat tax and herman cain's 9-9-9 proposal. what are the good points? 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here now, lou dobbs. let's go pros and cons. we all know that the tax code has to be revised. it's insane now. >> it is insane. it's a monstrosity and it's designed for everything but simplity. the advantage of both of these plans is simplicity and directness and to a large measure, could help toward the openness and transparency that this president promised. it's interesting that both plans, herman cain's 9-9-9 plan and rick perry's plan, which we don't know the details, we don't know what rate, but they're actually both in the taxes, that is that they will have specific rates in cain's case, 9% for business. 9% for individuals. and a 9% sales tax. in perry's case, and i talked with steve forbes today who is advising governor perry, who is excited because he's going to be able to put forward a plan that he tried in 1996 and 2000 as a candidate. >> bill: you're talking forbes? >> forbes. >> bill: as you said, it's basic low the same thing. let's take the 9-9-9 'cause that's on the table now. the problem with 9-9-9 in some people's eyes is that here in new york city, you add 8 1/2% on top of that, that's 17 1/2% on your big mac. >> right. >> bill: 17% on everything you buy. that's going to depress certain industries. now, you do theoretically get more money back from your paycheck, get a bigger take home. but not if you earn under 45,000 because you're not paying any federal income tax then. >> that's income tax. but -- >> bill: no, but 6 1/2 for payroll, and 1 1/2 doesn't add up to 9. so -- >> it comes up short 1%. but the impact, most of the folks that i think have got their fingers on this, look at this as driving growth as well. it also simplifies and makes transparent to the credit of herman cain, what is happening. it takes out at least five taxes, which are now hidden. every single element of the food chain, if you will, are going into that. >> bill: but let's stay with the massive folks who earn 60,000 and down. it's not going to impact them very much on the income tax level having a 9% rate. it's just not. but if you live in a high tax state, like massachusetts, like california, like new york, everything that you buy goes up. now, you can't tell me that's going to help the mcdonalds -- >> i'm not in the flat tax business. >> bill: people should know the down side to this. >> no question. there are down sides, but there are tremendous upsides as well. gary robins, a reagan treasury official, calculated the cain plan would generate $2 trillion in additional gdp. that's jobs. that is changing the direction -- >> bill: that's because there would be more cash for consumer, but certain industries like the housing industry, woo. home mortgage deduction, see you later! >> we've got to begin to rationalize what we're doing. we all complain about wealth redistribution in this country. it's time for people to start putting on their big boy pants and understanding that we've got to change the way we do business. >> bill: i agree 100%. >> the second part of this, and we can't leave this out, is that the wealthy get too large a peak in a plain vanilla flat rate. >> bill: if you buy a $5 million house and you take a jumbo 4 million mortgage, you take that off the top, we all know that. but now the incentive to buy a house is much less. plus it wouldn't be fair to the people who have that deduction now, buying under that pretense to take it away, you couldn't do that. >> we couldn't and we shouldn't. what always scares me is particularly after three years of this is the administration is they might. >> bill: but they can't 'cause they're not going to be around much longer. and i don't say that with any partisan -- none at all. >> clear view of the future. >> bill: i think you know me. >> i do indeed. >> bill: we're not routing for anybody. we're keeping an eye on all these people. >> we want america to prevail. >> bill: that's right. we want what's best for the folks. not what's best for a political party or politician. but if the economy -- if 9% unemployment, he's not going to get reelected. >> nor should he. >> bill: that's your opinion. >> i'm just -- >> bill: i'm saying he's not! >> but i will defer to you, this says o'reilley factor on it. >> bill: in total you sound like you want a flat tax you and think you could work it out so that nobody really gets hosed? >> this is the beginning of a conversation, a very important conversation about how to rationalize and to make sensible our tax system. not the end of it. over the course of this campaign, we've got a real opportunity to focus in on a new tax policy that will be -- >> bill: but i've got -- when perry comes on on tuesday and if we ever get herman cain back, i got to challenge him on this. have you thought about this unintended consequence? have you thought about that? because there are going to be unintended consequences of a flat tax. >> there always are. good judgment can prevail here as well. >> bill: all right. lou dobbs, ever the optimist. we have a brand-new billoreilly.com poll question for you. besides fox news, besides fox news what, would be your first tv choice for news? you see the options, please select one. dumbest things on the week on deck. bill ayers, right back with >> bill: the dumbest things of the week and analyze them. fox news correspondent arthel neville, the birthday girl this week. and five guy, greg gutfeld does red eye. nobody is sure when that's on. arthel, barbie doll, did you play with them when you were a kid? >> i did, i had a full collection. >> bill: now for christmas, just coming up, a new barbie, apparently has a tattoo. >> not just one. check her out. she's funky fashionista barbie. me has tattoos on her neck. >> bill: lovely. >> as we pan down, we'll see them on her arms as well. pardon me. she's $50. went on sale october 6 a couple weeks ago. already sold out in the u.s. until next month. but here is the problem. you have parents up in arms. first of all, i must say, her outfit, she's fashion forward. she encourages girls to be independent -- have individual expression as far as fashion. it's true, that's okay. but here is where i have a problem. the tattoos because it makes it seem -- >> bill: little girls play with dolls and now they want to grow up and have a tattoo on their neck and arm. i have to say, if you have a tattoo on your neck or on your arm, you will not be hired by "the o'reilly factor." >> exactly, or by many places. >> bill: there is a reason. there is a reason for that. because there is a certain image that in every job, you have to project. >> absolutely. >> bill: gutfeld has a whole bunch of tattoos. >> i just have one on my back. it says no spin zone. >> bill: yeah. all right. >> can i ignore him? >> bill: yes. >> pokey doby partnered with in tale to design this doll and say it's for adult collectors. the average age -- actually there are. >> bill: oh, stop. >> i'm not kidding. about 100,000 of them, average age of adult collectors, 40 years old. >> bill: and they all have tattoos. i don't want to get letters from people who have tattoos, adults saying, you're anti-tattoo. i don't want to do that. but little children who see this stuff are impressionable and anybody should not be allowed to get a tattoo until they're 21. >> we want to make sure that kids don't think it's fashionable. >> bill: believe me, they do. gutfeld, you have chosen a freelance radio person for npr who was a spokesperson or is a spokesperson for the occupy wall street people. roll the tape on this. >> my name is lisa and i'm going to washington, d.c. on october 6 because our moment has come. stop these wars this iraq and afghanistan and all the other places we're now bombing with our drones and other equipment. and to demand that that money that's being spent and wasted on slaughter come home here to the u.s. to be spent on human needs, on people's homes, on jobs, on health care, on education, on environmental protection, all the things that make people thrive. not war, not slaughter, not mayhem, not destruction, but life, peace, justice. that's what we want. that's what we're going to demand. >> bill: right on, power to the people. now, what happened to her? what did npr do? >> it was actually the documentary program called sand print. i watch it all the time, or listen to it. and they canned her, but npr didn't fire them. >> bill: so the actual show that she was working upon on npr fired her for what? >> because she violated the ethics. >> bill: what ethics? >> i guess apparently she got involved and organized a small event in d.c i think she was -- >> bill: you're not allowed to do that? >> npr ethics code states that journalists may not participate in marches and rallies involved in issues covering -- >> bill: so clearly she did. >> however, she says she's not a journalist. she's a host of a music program. >> to make a point, this is another example of the media acting as a pr company for the protests. the movement, bill, is a lot like me, when you see me on tv, i appear normal size. but in real life, i'm tiny. that's what the occupy protests are like. >> bill: i got it. all right. bill ayers, remember him? chicago activist, caught up in bombings in the '60s and all that. he had something to say about the protests as well. role the tape. is saying, i want y'all to be nonviolent. i want you to be nonviolent. >> bill: turning on barak obama. somebody said to me a very smart guy once said, if you get involved with radical people, either left or right, if you get involved in any way, shape, or form with them, they will turn on you. somewhere down the line, they will turn. their ideology makes them crazy. >> bill ayers preaching the wonders of nonviolence is like charlie sheen preaching the wonders of abstinence. >> or winning. >> bill: all right. dumbest thing of the week, bill ayers, barbie i think is the dumber of the dumbest. won't say anything. pin heads and patriots on deck. p and p moments away. you want to save money on car insurance? 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