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breaking news tonight. news in the michael jackson death investigation tonight. the death/manslaughter investigation, closing in on jackson's private doctor. that doctor with jackson the day the music superstar collapses at his bel air mansion. tonight, we have the search warrants dealing with the dea, lapd and chief of police during two raids. one at the doctor's houston clinic, the second at the doctor's self-storage unit. investigators seizing computer hard drives, fedex receipts, e-mails, a rolodex and two vials of drugs. we also learn jackson's private doctor was suspended from a houston hospital. why? and as the legal battle heats up over jackson's three children and his entire empire, we learn the estate lawyers recover over $5 million in cash and property. but will grandmother katherine and jackson's three children see any of this money? michael jackson's life at the end was being controlled and manipulated. >> we have a personal doctor here us with, sir. >> you have a doctor there? >> new details today on what detectives seized from the office of michael jackson's doctor who was the target of a manslaughter investigation. >> a second search warrant was also served, not at the clinic but at a private storage unit belonging to dr. conrad murray. both warrants say they're seeking information and evidence of the offense of manslaughter. >> tonight we know exactly what they found. >> a rolodex card with fedex information, which could mean they are trying to track if drugs were fedexed out of state, possibly. what drugs and who they may have been sent to. also, they took personal e-mails and some drugs including one vial of phentermine, a weight loss drug, and one vial of an anxiety drug. >> he just wanted to sleep. he wanted to have eight hours sleep. >> at dr. murray's storage unit, the search warrant says detectives seized among other things irs documents, a suspension notice from doctors hospital, two hard drives, a texas department of public safety registration for controlled substances. they may interview him a third time as early as next week. >> it is now clear there is a very real possibility that michael jackson's death could be ruled a homicide. >> good evening. i'm mike brooks in for nancy grace. the investigation into the sudden death of music superstar michael jackson intensifies. >> agents from the dea executing a search warrant at dr. conrad murray's houston clinic. then murray's lawyers released a bombshell, a statement confirming that a potential case of manslaughter is being built against the doctor who was with michael jackson when he died. >> he's not breathing, sir. >> okay. and he's not conscious either, he's not breathing -- >> he's not conscious, sir. >> okay. >> documents are revealing michael jackson's personal physician, dr. conrad murray, is now the focus of a manslaughter investigation into jackson's death. the documents showed samples of a weight loss drug, also a muscle relaxant. these were among the items taken from dr. murray's houston clinic. >> when you take a doctor and stick him in a room and the doctor gives him something and make him rest and he don't wake up no more, something is wrong there. >> two search warrants filed in houston related to dr. conrad murray, one served on his medical clinic, the other on a storage unit he has in the houston area. there were homicide detectives and federal drug agents taking part in the searches. >> court documents show they took 27 tablets of the prescription strength appetite suppressant phentermine, one tablet of an anti-anxiety pill and from a storage unit they took documents and hard drives. >> and it's looking more and more likely that criminal charges could be next. >> you're going to see that they have toxicology reports and they probably have other corroborating evidence that michael jackson had access to illegal prescription drugs. where it's gross or reckless conduct, it crosses the line into criminality. >> good evening, i'm mike brooks in for nancy grace. folks, we have the two search warrants, the returns of the one from his office in houston and the other one from his self-storm unit wherks after they found a receipt in his office, then they went there and got more evidence. i want to go straight out to tom o'neal. joining us from new york, senior editor for "in touch weekly." tom, tell us what was found in these warrants. >> the most significant thing in the warrants is this language here, mike, they were searching for "evidence of the offense of manslaughter that tend to show dr. conrad murray committed said criminal offense." this is the first legal document that we have that links the charge of manslaughter to this doctor. but we don't have a cause of death yet. he's not named as a suspect. so this is really relevant. there's something else that was found in both places. the storage bin and the office. which is extremely significant if a report from tmz proves out to be true. and that is, there were two e-mails to a woman named stacy howe. there was correspondence to this woman. well, it -- reportedly she was the manager of dr. arnold kline's office, the dermatologist. this suggests a linkage between the doctors. >> well, you know, we talk about arnold klein, too. ken baker, joining us from los angeles. he is executive news editor for e! we talked about aliases. what do we know about the aliases in dr. klein's files? >> well, we don't know about those. but, you know, it's interesting just to go back on what tom said. it's interesting to see what they seized. but what they did not seize is propofol. the anesthesia we believe he was under at the time of death that probably caused his cardiac arrest. they didn't find that. so perhaps there wasn't this smoking gun. we've never been told that they found that drug in any of these doctors' offices. it's not to say there had been some there and somehow mysteriously disappeared. we don't have all the information. but it is a conspicuous absence if you look at it. i have the list. they did not find propofol. and that is described as the smoking gun in this case. >> exactly. there is nothing mentioned in the affidavit for the search warrant or in the return of the search warrant for propofol. that's all we've been hearing about for the last number of weeks that he was abusing. that but what about the producer of nancy grace show who is covering this from the very beginning. natisha, was there proceed propofol? found in the room where michael jackson died? >> actually, we have heard many reports that there was dep ra van found in his room when police officers went in there. there were also lots of medical labels that were missing from a lot of the prescription bottles that were in michael jackson's room. so the doctors had to go back and verify and see where these were coming from. one of the things found in dr. murray's when they seized items, they were looking into the fedex account there. and one of the things that has been mentioned many times before is that michael jackson was going -- he had this very nomadic lifestyle. if he was getting this drug, it is possible that dr. murray could have been sending it through the fedex account to michael jackson wherever he was in the world. >> you know, that's an interesting point. you know, was he sending it somewhere? but i want to go out to howard oliver, he is former deputy medical director and forensic pathologist joining us from los angeles. doctor, if there was propofol in the room when he died, usually on those vials, aren't there a lot number, all kinds of other numbers where they can trace it back to at least start to the beginning of the investigation to find out where and when it was found and maybe who took this? >> yes, there always is. >> now, the two drugs that were found there, tell us about those, the two -- the vials they took. >> those are two medications that you would commonly find in the doctor's office. the phentermine is simply an appetite suppressant. the other drug belongs to an anti-anxiety drug family. but like i say, this was -- these are drugs you would normally find in most doctors' offices. >> now we have not heard anything from the toxicology reports. realistically, how long would it take for the toxicology reports to come back from the coroner's office? >> realistically, less than two weeks to get the results back. >> so you as a former medical examiner, would you say that they are just holding off right now on the results waiting for the results of this death investigation/manslaughter investigation? >> yes, they are holding off until they get all the information together. >> i want to unleash the attorneys right now. joining us from chicago, jennifer smeters, family law attorney and child advocate. from san francisco, noted defense attorney dan horowitz. and from new york, peter schaeffer, known defense attorney, renowned defense attorney. now guys, i find it unusual. if this is a death investigation, dan, to have in these search warrants the mention of manslaughter. don't you? >> it's very strange, mike. and there is some dangers in specifying only one crime when you're looking for evidence. because it gives the police too much discretion. what's evidence of manslaughter? a judge is supposed to tell the cops can you look for these specific items and not give them broad discretion. it could lead to suppression. and it's also tipping the hand i think, mike, they know this doctor is going to be charged with man slaughter and they're just wrapping up right now. >> that's what it seems to me, too. to get one of these and have a judge sign a search warrant, you need probable cause. which as i was a rookie -- one of the first things they taught me in the police academy, probable cause is a set of facts or circumstances that would lead a reasonable or prudent officer or investigator to believe that a crime has been committed, is being committed, or is about to be committed. do you agree with that, peter? >> well, i think you do. we don't know what's in the search warrant affidavit. you see the search warrant itself. but the affidavit is the facts. and those are probably sealed. i don't think that you need to have that much evidence to get a search warrant signed. you know, especially these officers come out from l.a. and go to a texas judge. i think that he's going to sign it based on the circumstances. he gets -- he or she gets to be part of this national case. i'm not so impressed either with the investigation in houston or what was recovered there. >> why not? why -- what do you mean? you're not impressed? i think right now so far, lapd and the coroner's office and dea, they're holding things pretty close to the vest. but, you know, having been a former investigator myself on both the local and federal side, you know, it's not unusual to go to another state and ask houston to go ahead and do a search warrant in conjunction, as it says, with lapd and dea. >> it's not. but what is the dea doing going in on a investigation like this? this is -- you know, it's unlikely to be a federal crime. i mean, you have millions of dollars of drugs being smuggled over the texas boreder from mexico, and they're taking dea agents? it's because this is michael jackson. this is national news. >> no. >> and everybody wants a piece of this. >> i disagree with you. there's been other notable celebrities, you know, heath ledger, dea took a look at this along with nypd. and why? because, number one, dea, what do they regulate? they regulate doctors, writing prescriptions. every prescription that you get at a doctor's office has a dea number. we'll talk a little bit more about this when we come back. and we're taking your calls live. it's the home michael jackson wanted but even at the time he couldn't afford. quoorgs according to his las vegas realtor, this ten-acre estate was to be michael jackson's vegas wonder land. >> this is the only house i showed michael out of a ten or a dozen where he came outside. he came outside with no umbrella, no mask on. just came out here with the kids to see the grounds of the property. >> instead, he placed jackson and his family in this leased home. it was not up to par, he says, but jackson was building a life in las vegas and also trying to build back his wealth. >> i know that michael really liked the idea of being able to perform in one location night after night. he loved the fact that the kids could actually have a place to call home and not move around with him since they're always going everywhere with him. >> the estate is filled with quirky appeals, secret tunnels leading to a gun range jackson wanted to turn into a music studio. a barber chair, a full gym, theater room and a 20-car garage where he and his family could load into and out of cars out of view. at the time, just back from his self-exile in bahrain and ireland, jackson simply couldn't afford the $22 million to $25 million price tag. the real estate agent says he believes the concert tour would have been michael jackson's pathway back to this house, a permanent show in las vegas, and a new retreat he would have called wonder land. >> mike brooks in for nancy grace. well, the investigation intensifies. into the death of michael jackson. was it manslaughter? was it homicide? was it accidental overdose? we don't know. and we're taking your calls live. out to the phones, marcia from oklahoma. thanks for joining us. >> caller: hi, mike. >> hi, marcia. >> caller: my question is, did the dea and or the lapd raid dr. murray's las vegas office at the same time that they did the houston office? >> out to natisha lance, "nagcy grace" producer. natisha, did they search any properties in las vegas? >> we don't have a lot of information on that. we have a cnn reporter that says it looked like the las vegas office was completely shut down. there was a drape over the window and a note on the door that said to contact the building manager. it doesn't seem like that las vegas office is still in business. >> now, natisha, how much do we know about dr. murray and how long has he known michael jackson? what was their first contact? >> we know he's a cardiologist. we know that he met michael jackson back in 2006. providing care for one of michael jackson's children. and at that time michael jackson apparently started referring to dr. murray for medical treatment as well as they have a friendship according to conrad murray's pr spokesperson. but then he was also signed on once michael jackson signed on to do this tour with aeg, he was going to be his personal physician for that. he apparently conducted this very long, extensive physical that michael jackson underwent for that. getting him ready for this. he was on call for michael jackson during his last hours as well. >> now ken baker, wasn't -- didn't he ask initially for some exorbitant amount, $1 million a month? >> it was reported actually in a "rolling stone" article that he asked for $1 million a month. i can't confirm that. but what was confirmed to aeg, to us, was that he was on a salary of $150,000 a month. we looked into the past of -- i'm sorry? >> $150,000 a month? >> yeah. not a bad gig. what i was going to say, not a bad gig for someone who actually we looked at records. he has had some financial issues. he did lose some civil cases. there were judgments against him. there were liens put on the property. he wasn't necessarily in the best financial health when he signed on. so he had a real incentive to make sure that michael jackson was kept in good health, apparently, so he would have a job. >> ya think? but tom o'neal, didn't michael jackson step up and say, hey, i need a full-time doctor because i'm your moneymaker. i'm your rainmaker. you're getting money because of me. >> yeah, obviously michael was in such good-bad -- good-bad health alternating all the time. he needed a full-time physician there. he needed somebody who he could trust. so somebody who he entrusted his children, to as natisha was saying, back in 2006 when he met this man, they formed a bond that turned out to be very valuable. >> i want to go out to brian oxman. he is the former jackson attorney and host of klaa radio. thanks for being with us. >> you betcha, mike. >> so what is the family saying? now we found out what is in -- what was seized from the two locations. what are the jackson family and the inner circle saying about this? >> they're being very circumspect as to what they think about the investigation. they are very anxious to find out its details. but they're also recognizing this is going to be long. it's going to be meticulous, very tedious. so they're not jumping to any conclusions. and they're urging everyone, stay the course here. let law enforcement do its job. it's going to do a good job. and thus far this family says a plus to bill bratton the chief of lapd, and a-plus to jerry brown who is making all the connections and connecting all the dots. >> i'm sorry peter schaefer, but i'm in agreement with that with mr. oxman. i say s-plus to chief bratton and his staff also in conducting this investigation. but folks, don't go away. we've got plenty more. we're going to talk about what exactly was in the warrants and we'll be taking your calls live. more than 1,500 miles from where michael jackson took his last breath, a painstaking search for clues. without warning, robbery/homicide detectives from los angeles, houston police, and federal drug agents raided the office of dr. conrad murray, jackson's personal physician who was at his house the day he died. his lawyers said investigators were authorized to "search for and seize items including documents they believed constituted evidence of the offense of manslaughter." that's the first time the word manslaughter has been used by anyone closely connected to the case. >> i'm mike brooks in for nancy grace. well, they said -- the attorney for dr. conrad murray said he and his client were going along and helping law enforcement here in their investigation but were they really? why did they have two surprise search warrants of his office in houston and his self-storage unit in houston? we're going to talk about what is in the warrants. first out to the lines. robin from florida, you have a question? robin? >> caller: yes, hi, mike. >> how you doing? >> caller: thank you for taking my call. >> thank you. >> caller: i was curious as to whether anyone had checked with the phone company to find out if there was, in fact, no phone -- live phone at the mansion at the time michael died. >> you know, that's a great question. and i know that -- that's one of the things as a former investigator i can tell you that is one of the first things that they would do. why wasn't -- why was there a delay in the call? when first responders got there, apparently he was cold. they said that 911 calls we have, you know, they were doing cpr. and dr. murray, he didn't take michael and put him on the floor. he was doing it on the bed which as a former first responder, i found that highly unusual, especially for a medical professional. back out to the lines. karen from florida? >> caller: hello, mike. >> hi, karen. >> caller: one lady yesterday answered my question. i heard on another program right before nancy that this doctor was about to file bankruptcy and he's having money problems. >> what do we know, natisha, about his financial straits? we're going to talk about the warrants, there were notices from the internal revenue service that were in his self-storage unit. what do you know about his finances? >> we don't know specific details about that. those were some of the items that were seized from his storage unit. as kim baker was talking about, he was apparently on the brink of some very financial -- serious financial straits. >> ken, had he ever filed for bankruptcy? do we know this for sure? >> no. to our knowledge, he hadn't. but did he have some problems -- some property that he did stand to lose if he didn't get his financial house in order. dddd you know what michael thought of his father, you can see it in the will. he doesn't name his father at all. >> they're saying that i beat michael. that's not true. you know where this beating started? beating started in the slavery days. they used to beat the slaves. they used to torture them. >> joe had five boys there. a black man working in the steel mill taking care of his family. and sometimes that calls for strict discipline. >> psychological damage on michael of the beatings he took with switches and belts and straps at the hands of his father. >> it doesn't matter whether joe jackson -- well, he hit him with a belt. it wasn't really a beating. >> a beating is a beating. >> we all at that time, the belt was used to discipline. it wasn't used as an abusive weapon, okay? and my uncle and my mother disciplined us all. >> a lot of people in america spank their kids. you know? they say they don't, they're lying. they're lying. michael was never beat by me. >> i think it was all the abuse that made him disregulated and traumatized and unable to self-soothe without drugs. >> you can get over physical punishment faster than psychological punishment. >> i'm mike brooks in for nancy grace. let's break down exactly what was in the search warrants. let's start with this office. now we have rolodex cards with fedex information. natisha, what are they looking for with this fedex information possibly? >> right. they could be looking for possible linkage from sending propofol possibly to michael jackson in california. what we do know is that dr. conrad murray was not licensed to be able to write prescriptions out of the state of california. so if he was obtaining this propofol, possibly he was getting it in houston and then shipping it to michael jackson in california. >> dr. howard oliver, former deputy medical examiner, forensic pathologist in los angeles. do you have to get a license to write prescriptions from state to state? >> no. the dea license is good in all states. however, you have to have a california license to be -- to prescribe here. >> got you. also dr. oliver, don't go away. next on the list, pamphlets on a sleep center located in -- on west tidwell. do you know anything about that sleep center? >> sleep centers are generally for the opposite problem mr. jackson would have had. sleep centers are usually used for people with sleep apnea. it's a place you go to sleep and you're filmed and watched by a crew. they determine how many times you suffer from apnea while trying to sleep at night. >> ken baker from e! he's executive producer for e! do we know if michael jackson ever checked himself into or went to any kind of sleep centers at all? >> we don't know that. but what we do know is that michael jackson did struggle with sleep. he told everyone. i mean, the nurse who talked to him four days, cherilyn lee, a nurse spoke to him for four days before he died. he was begging her to supply him with propofol so he could sleep. he was begging her. he said he just couldn't sleep. it was killing him. and i think that he clearly had a problem with this. he was treating it. and we're told by the way, we talked to experts. propofol is a horrible way to get sleep. you don't get a sound sleep. it knocks you out. you don't get the benefits of the rejuvenation of a natural kind of sleep or even a sleep that you get with a sleep aid like ambien. whatever medical advice he was getting that this was a way to sleep, it was bad advice. >> we do know that he had -- he even traveled around with an anesthesiologist, tom o'neal, in the early '90s, did he not? >> yes, he did. this problem goes way back. he also asked some other doctors who have been speaking up lately for this. so this is just -- the sleep center, by the way, to finish the earlier question is connected to doctors hospital which is where dr. murray conrad worked. and that is something is in the subpoenas. >> we're going to talk about that in just a second. i want to get through the office, then we're going to go to the storage center. so in the office, we got yahoo! e-mails from a stacy howe. and who is, natisha, stacy howe? >> as tom o'neal was saying earlier, stacy howe is the manager for arnold klein's office back in california. so possibly investigators were trying to link these two doctors together, talking about the medication that they were giving to michael jackson. >> right. now there is some other things that they -- a cricket phone receipt, a letter, some other things they did seize from the office including a forensic image of his business computer. and again, we heard the vials of the two drugs. now let's move on to the storage unit. there is a lot of interesting things they found there. and one of them that we just -- just hinted about was documents regarding an incomplete chart from doctors hospital and a suspension notice from doctors hospital. now dr. oliver, could he have been suspended for not filling charts out properly? >> definitely he could have been suspended for not filling out charts. that's common reason doctors are suspended from hospitals, for not keeping up their paperwork. >> and could that be maybe some drugs that maybe were administered to some of the patients there? >> it's possible. usually it's for paperwork deficiencies. >> now, he also had a medical board certificate that expired in august 31st of 2008. now he was, if i'm not mistaken, a cardiologist. but he wasn't an anesthesiologist. and dr. oliver, do we know if he was a board certified cardiologist? >> i -- i don't know. >> now does it take a higher standard to be board certified? >> yes, it usually does. it -- you're all trained the same way to become board certified simply means you take a test after your residency and if you pass the test, you're certified. >> do you have to keep up continuing medical education on your specialty after that to keep your certification? >> all physicians have to keep up continuing medical education and sometimes when you're board certified you have to recertify after a particular period of time. >> interesting. so he -- we talk about possible propofol. he was with michael jackson at the time of his death. didn't give cpr the proper way, as far as i'm concerned. and he's a cardiologist. huh. just -- i find that extremely interesting. now also seized were a computer hard drive from two different samsung computers along with correspondence addressed to stacy howe. i don't think this is the last we've heard about the interaction between he, stacy howe, and dr. klein. but i want to move on to the family now. we heard that there was this -- all this money, this $5 million that was found. now jennifer smeters, family law attorney and child advocate. why would the family not get some of this money? >> i believe they eventually will get some of the money. the question is what is their need right now for the funds? i think that's what the court will eventually -- they'll evaluate that and give money out so that the kids' day-to-day expenses can be taken care of. but right now it may be a little premature to start doling out funds. >> why don't we go back out to brian oxman, former jackson family attorney and host of klaa. you've been very close to the family for quite some time, brian. what are their financial straits right now? especially katherine and the children? >> they are living just fine. they're doing okay. there was a petition which was filed in the probate court for an allowance which is a very usual type of thing done for the family and for the beneficiaries under the will. michael always cared for his mother. my goodness, when i looked at how he cared for katherine jackson, i just wished that i could care for my mom in the very same manner. he took wonderful care of her. that's a factor which the probate coarse will take into consideration. but it's a usual very common thing which is done to get the family money because they've been cared for in the past. >> now what about joe jackson and the rest of the kids? we'll talk about that when we come back. i want to thank you so much for your calls and e-mails about my look, "the eleventh victim," it comes out august 11. you are the very first to see it right now. of course after lucy, pictured here, who grabbed it first. it's about a prosecutor who tries her best to give up criminal law and start a new life. but when her friends are murdered, one by one, the nypd hones in on her. it took me years to write this book. i started when i first left felony prosecution and i missed it so much. then i wrote another book and published it. my producer dean got married, got pregnant, gave birth, nearly died, didn't, and finished the book. i hope you like it. part of my proceeds go to a charity, wesley glen, who takes care of the mentally handicapped that need a loving home. you can find this book on our website. -d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d as you well know by now, there is litigation that is ordinary by the michael jackson story. including the custody hearing that was postponed -- >> it's a battle between jackson's ex-wife and his mother. maybe not. there's word that his kids may want someone else to raise them. >> but when the hearing does happen, will rowe be there? and what about a system that places a premium on a biological parent when it comes to custody. >> legally speaking, she is the parent of the older two children. that is a matter of law. >> you want to look at what's in their best interests. they have a relationship with kas katherine. they have cousins, aunts, uncles. that will all be taken into question and listening to the kids. >> there's word that michael jackson's children may want their aunt, janet jackson, to raise them. "ochlt kchl "ok!" magazine is reporting that janet jackson reads to the children at night and they melt in her arms when she walks into the house. >> his will specifically says katherine jackson. now we all think janet jackson is so close to them. but she actually lives on the other side of the country and rarely sees them. >> i strongly urge california child welfare to step in and get these children a proper stable environment asap. the way things are going right now, it's very unclear, very shady and a lot of greed around the jackson and rowe camp. >> i'm mike brooks in for nancy grace. well, the investigation intensifies and so does the battle over possible money. now we're hearing from the executors now have found $5 million. natisha, where's this money coming from? >> this is from the petition that they were asking for the allowance for the children as well as for katherine jackson. the $5.5 million was obtained from former financial advisers of michael jackson. it is cash and it's now in the hands of the executors of the estate. >> i want to go back out to jennifer smeters, family law attorney and child advocate. jennifer, how are they going to split this money up? or what will they do with this money until they decide who is going to get what? >> right now what the court will look at are what are the needs of the kids? what are the needs of the caregivers of the children? this money should not be treated as a windfall. and it won't be treated as a windfall to the jackson family. the judge is going to dole out money on an as-needed basis until the estate is looked at and completed and a distribution plan is ultimately made. >> now i know there is a hearing august 3rd. they're going to take up all kinds of -- dealing with custody and the kids. jennifer, who is representing the kids? should they have their own attorney separate from the estate? >> they should absolutely have their own attorney. these children are old enough to have a representative in court looking after what is in the best interest of those kids. i'm afraid that if the attorney of the estate is speaking on behalf of the children that it is going to be something that the jackson camp wants to put out there as opposed to what is really in the hearts and minds of those children. these children need potentially to have an advocate on their own behalf in the courtroom and have somebody that they can have some confidential and privileged discussions with so that their hearts can really come out and the court can look after what it is that they need at this time. >> i want to go out to noted psychologist lillian glass, author of "i know what you're thinking." and we need your help on this one, lillian. what are these kids going through right now? you know, we've heard that the kids would rather be with janet. and then tmz is reporting some things now that maybe ribi jackson would raise the children because katherine is too old. what are the kids going through now? >> they're going through a lot. they loved their father. and you just heard that heart-wrenching speech that little paris gave. and that spoke volumes. >> tore your heart out. >> yes. and they're going through so much. and they need a family that's stable, that loves them, that gives them affection, that gives them tenderness. and that's what the jackson family can do for them. >> i want to back out to brian oxman. former jackson family attorney. brian, you know the family better than anyone we have on the show tonight. what do you think the kids want or have they ever told you who they want to be with? >> the children have never expressed any kind of desire for one family or another except that they love katherine jackson. they just adore her. and what you saw at the memorial is something that most people never really knew before and that is the dominance of the jackson women. you had ribi jackson, janet jackson, and la toya jackson. they are very powerful personalities. they dominate this family. and nobody really knew that before until we saw it at the memorial. they love the whole women in this family. it's just really something that is amazing. and they're doted upon, particularly latoya likes to have a big say in what they do. i don't think they're lacking for any kind of care. >> no, you know, it just tore your heart out when you saw paris there during the memorial service. you know, she went to grab that microphone, everybody trying to adjust the mike. and then after that, just in tears. it tore my heart out. i want to go back out to dan horowitz. dan, on august 3rd, what is going to be discussed? and will we hear anything, find out anything specifically after the hearing? >> i think, so mike. i think there's a battle brewing over money. and, you know, brian is a great advocate for the family. he's putting the women in the forefront to take your attention and my attention away from joe jackson who is an abusive man and the kids should not be with him. i think we'll see a lot of that fight going on that day. >> i think you're right. it's going to be a lot going on august 3rd. join us right here. we'll be talking about it at length on august 3rd. and now, "cnn heroes." >> this is "cnn heroes." >> in 2004, i was diagnosed with breast cancer. initially, there's shock. but i realized how blessed i was to have health insurance. it made me think about all the women who didn't have health insurance. i wanted to make a difference in their lives. i'm andrea ivory. i'm fighting breast cancer in south florida one household at a time. the florida breast health initiative is an outreach organization. we're targeting working class people who are going to make a difference and save some lives. we have a take it to the streets approach. we feel like little pixies awareness. can i ask you a few questions? 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