presumably, they had a system in place, but we don't know what these documents might tell us and that's one reason the committee is looking. >> if these documents are there for the committee to reach, why do you think donald trump is fighting so hard to keep them sealed? >> well, look, on a broad principle, every president fights this kind of thing. every president resists the idea of their white house being open to transparency. it is an institutional, you know, tradition. having said that, more specifically on president trump, you can imagine that there would be things he thinks might be embarrassing or damaging in some ways. he has said he thinks this committee is illegitimate and is on a partisan witch hunt. he's consistently resisting any efforts to obtain documents or testimony from his white house by congress on all sorts of matters. remember, a two-year court fight to get don mcgahn, the white