multiple defendants, they take a very long time. and so i think that that is the one that is the most compelling, that has the most exposure for the former president, and i think it is the worst thing that any president has done in our nation's history. >> you are one of dozens of house democrats who wants cameras in court for trump's trials. other any updates if that is going to happen. how critical will it be if it does? >> look, obviously my biggest concern is, do the trials take place before november 2024? but working on the argument that you are making now, the history of our country is filled with trials that got a lot of publicity in one minute or another that turned into circus from lindberg to simpson. but i think a solid judge can handle that. and my bigger concern on violence is the fact that the american public needs to see this. the transparency issue is going to be --