phenomenon created by repetition. the phrase i use is, the dial only goes to ten. once you put it up to ten for long enough, it starts to sound like five. you can only modulate so much. people say, don't normalize. then you don't want to be histrionic and constantly, this is nuts. >> except that given the level of insanity that we have seen just in his demeanor, in his rhetoric, we have not seen a corresponding catastrophe in foreign affairs or in the economy or any other things that we know are super sensitive, delicate things that require a really fundamentally sane person at the wheel. what happens when something like that does happen? what happens when his policy toward iran is driven more by his whim that particular morning or what someone said on fox news that day? >> this is donald trump's fundamental strategy. it's the strategy of the