has been made clear. quote, barr has told foreign intelligence leaders he does not believe his own country's intelligence officials and had gone to italy to ask if u.s. intelligence officials are telling the truth. josh marshal joins me now. good to see you. this is very strange situation, to have the attorney general of the united states flying around the world trying to dig up something to -- it's almost reverse engineering varied conspiracy theories. >> it's pretty bizarre. generally speaking you think of the people in one government are kind of on the same team and, you know, trust each other and aren't investigating each other. and you have this very weird case where he's going to these foreign intelligence services that have long-standing ties with u.s. intelligence services as you would expect, italy and inu.s., the u.s. and u.k. and basical basically going to them and