to the committee shed a little more light on what exactly that involvement may have looked like. >> so let's talk about the allegation against gosar here. they say that they spoke to paul gosar at some point, that he dangled a presidential pardon, which by the way it was due to the fact of their involvement with we build the wall, the organization that steve bannon had been involved with and he was indicted for, essentially bilking diehard maga people who were giving money to this essentially fictitious entity and using the money for lining their own personal pockets. they were involved with that as well. and gosar tells them what? maybe that goes away if you keep it up. >> well, to be clear, it wasn't a fictitious entity. they brought in about $25 million and they did erect about three miles of wall along the border. the issue with steve bannon is that you know, he represented it as a situation where he wasn't being paid and allegedly ascored according to the doj he and other members of the group took a lot of money while saying they were doing this sort of pro