we care about that. we care about the caucus that wants to say why we shouldn't -- that's part of what we believe in. it's always going to be harder for us. >> it's harder to assemble -- the coalition is harder to keep together. >> yes, yes. it's a true big 10. >> there are people -- people love to ride in on this thing of, well, you know, you don't know that actually older black voters in queens don't want to de-fund the police. i know that. i get that. >> i'm from queens. i do understand. >> these liberals, they -- no, no, no. we are talking about tens of millions of people from lots of backgrounds. they have different conceptions. >> in fact, black people have always had lots of conflict. >> there are many of them. >> all of that is to say that i think that for me, it has