use segment you can get here. just go sign up for gmail or proton account, very easy to do. when we think is in the documents? i was shocked by the number -- i have to say, and following your reporting, my sense of his sensuality ascended in so far as, it seemed like he might have been a little bit of an arms distanced guy who got this in front of them, but it seems like it was fairly central during the entire plotting. >> he was, john eastman who was a law professor, former clerk to supreme court justice clarence thomas, esteemed in conservative legal circles, he was certainly respectable. he was in many ways one of the most central players in all of this. your previous guest said everything is connected. and you were talking about those for fake electors.