come in. it istn absolutely true that's e case. over 50 years ago when the rule was written, when rule six was written, it set it to give both sides at committee hearings. that's what happened at the december 4th meeting and the december 9th meeting. let's be honest about the rules. and houseth resolution 660 i wod point out again provides an opportunity for the president of thefo united states to come. he could haveto come on decembe 4th. he could have sent any of his witnesses, and he didn't. but no one should be surprised because that's beened the president's approach throughout is to refuse to allow anyone -- anyone -- with the kind of information my colleagues claim they're interested in from coming to testify, from coming to answer questions directly. with that i yield to my friend from new york, mr. jeffries. >> i thank the distinguished gentleman --