plus, no interest until january 2024. ends monday. what was the most shocking to you? >> just how directly personally involved the president was, the pressure he was putting on jeffrey rosen, it was real. very real. and it was very specific. this president is not subtle when he wants something -- former president is not subtle when he wants something. and i think it's a good thing for america that we had a person like rosen in that position, who stood -- withstood the pressure. >> that was senate judiciary chairman dick durbin on cnn yesterday talking about what he learned from jeffrey rosen about donald trump's attempts to subvert the election. "the new york times" reports former acting attorney general jeffrey rosen told the justice department inspector general and
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