desperate to try to show something different from what they are actually doing. warcrimes, as david mentioned. aleppo in syria, mass bombing and destruction of a city and its affiliates. this is right here in front of us. we see it. we know it. the russians for some reason, they just think they can convince the world and they can't. it really demonstrates a dishonourable approach to engaging on this issue and demonstrates that they really don't have an interest at this stage in any real solution. they just want the war as it is right now to take over a country, illegally, invade that democratic ally, and just grab it. and that's what we're up against right now. >> david, something i keep wondering about. what happens when a lot of these russian troops come back, knowing what happened, and what they did in, and it doesn't square with the kremlin is telling the russian people? >> that's an excellent point.