and his allies have made that all of this stuff is just hearsay. the problem with the hearsay argument is that everything that the whistle-blower has said in his complaint seems to be buttressed by the president's own comments, the white house's confirmation, and the transcript, rough transcript that the white house released. almost every single thing that whistle-blower has said has been proven true. still, whistle-blower number two, who appears to be an intelligence official with much more firsthand knowledge has come forward ostensibly to help say no, this is not one lone person. there are people who saw this with their own eyes, heard it with their own eyes, with their own ears, forgive me. and what's interesting to me, brian, about all of this, and part of it is all the reporting we've been doing about other calls that went off the rails is that this group of people on the national security council, people who are often active duty military, intelligence operators, they're so much more used to keeping their mouth shut