not trying to take that kind of heat. so the president is realizing now the limits of his influence. it's not just that he hasn't shown himself to be a loyal pat tron but he realized that his corruption has trickled so far down that regular people who go to work every single day and come home to chevy chase are look, i need to have a life beyond this administration and i'm not going to carry water for this level of corruption. >> john? >> i was thinking while he was saying that, it's not just a deterrent that they're afraid to go to jail. we have people with real ethic character, we have jovanovic, they might call themselves some middle class gang, maybe, the jets. these guys are just bat at the core. and what's happening is we're shedding the best people coming out and beginning to talk, we're beginning to have a critical mass of witnesses against the crimes. and unlike what the special