chilling effect on abortions because of this retroactive liability provision. >> dahlia, i hope your connection's working now. i just wanted to give you a chance to finish your point there about the scope of this judge's view of this issue, the legal and the practical as it is being a lived experience in texas? >> yeah, just simply, lawrence, that he is so profoundly aware of the facts on the ground and that every footnote is about a fact on the ground that the court, the supreme court -- when it chose to dismiss this on the back of an envelope on september 1st. it is such a deep, deep recognition of what is really happening, the pain that has been caused and i simply think, that it is a way of saying to the court not just was this law constructed to evade judicial review as neal says, but it was also constructed to harm women