>> if this story goes on or they try to go down the impeachment path, there's this continuing subplot of the president and rudy giuliani alleged that joe biden did something nefarious in the ukraine. it just muddies the water, and even if people don't believe that, it still can create the sort of subconscious perception that while he was vice president there was something shady about his past. it gets into the subconscious narrative that can taint a narrative going forward. that's the risk the democrats have in bringing this up over and over and over again because there will be the alternate echo chamber going on talking about biden and yukraine. i think it's similar to the