why he had reservations about ukraine. the generalized and endemic corruption which obvious president zelensky won on an anti-corruption platform. and then the fact that europe doesn't do as much as the president thinks they should do to help ukraine, a country in its own backyard. >> i know you said this before -- >> those are -- those are legitimate concerns. and the new emails don't shed any new light on that. the president was concerned about whether or not america's hard-erned taxpayer dollars should be spent into a country where there has been proven cases of corruption. >> i'm going to start with you responding to what we heard there. he called the impeachment charges bizarre, thin ruled, don't have much of a case there. the president said that. they said there's no crime. there doesn't have ab a crime for e. into. but it's a thin case.