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MSNBCW Andrea Mitchell Reports April 15, 2015



i'm outside a food processing plant in norwalk, iowa hillary clinton will meet with business owners and workers. before we get to the news here we'll go to peter alexander for breaking news out of the boston. peter? >> nothing says iowa and campaigning like a food processing plant. we'll get back to you in a moment. more of that dramatic finish to a murder trial. the former nfl start was found guilty of first-degree murder in the 2013 murder of odin lloyd. the conviction carries a life sentence without the possibility of parole. this news just breaking within a matter of minutes. nbc's ron mott is outside the courtroom in fall river, massachusetts right now. ron, what's the latest? >> reporter: peter, good afternoon. the sentencing was not dramatic. we knew with a first-degree murder conviction, he was headed to prison for life without the possibility of parole. the verdict was surprising in that it took the jury a course of seven days to come back with this verdict. a lot of people began to suspect this was perhaps going to begin with a hung jury. after seven days they started to wonder if the jury was struggling with the verdict itself. we're waiting to hear official think from one or maybe several jurors about how the deliberations unfolded. what i suspect, peter, if they do talk, we may hear that they all went home yesterday having decided to vote murder one, and then sleep on it to make sure that was their decision and they were clear and comfortable making that decision because clearly they are now sending a 25-year-old man to prison for life. this is not the end selfaaron hernandez' legal trouble. as you know he stands accused of killing two men in a homicide in the south end of boston. aaron hernandez is the suspected shooter in that case. a lot of legal observers believe that case is stronger. the case in boston seems a lot stronger. if you ask some legal experts, because you have a clearly established motive prosecutors say aaron hernandez killed the two men, because he was offended that one of them unknowningly spilled his drank and never apologized, and he lay in wait and amend bush them. they have a murder weapon and third, they have a witness they believe who was with aaron hernandez in the vehicle aaron hernandez was in that night, who also testified in this case. so we'll just have to wait and sigh what the jurors say. for. >> all right, ron mott have we hear from the jurors we will check in with you a bit later. for now we want to send it to andrea mitchell in iowa. back to you. >> thank you very much peter. all that news out of boston here in iowa hillary clinton is about to arrive. the focus so far is on the economy. what are the reviews so far? with me here in iowa is ann geren from "the washington post," and joining us from washington is i did torrie columnist ruth marcus. ruth ruth, ann and i have been following hillary clinton, with very few opportunities for questions, but she has been drilling down on her issues. no specifics how she would accomplish it but certainly a pour pop you list tone at times sounding more like elizabeth warren than hillary clinton, and she's reaching out in the way caucus-goers like. >> she did drop some news on what she would like to see happen on campaign finance, but it was geared to be a pop you list economic message, and also geared for an iowa audience first, and a national audience second. >> and with ruth marcus one of the criticisms has been that this is so controlled there's no opportunity to question her about the disparity between them dialing for dollars and what's going to be a billion dollar-plus campaign and talking about a constitutional amendment to limit campaign spending. at the same time talking as a pop you list when she was the senator from new york and clearly very close to wall street took money from hedge fund managers. but, ruth you wrote that the very roll-out the video was, quote vapid. >> i understand what hillary clinton is trying to do by the way, i'm kind of itching to be out there. i know it's frustrating not to get to her. the campaign wants to hear from everyday americans, and all of that stuff, but the video and honestly even the first day or so of campaigning has been not -- the video was substance-free. the first couple days of campaigning have been semi-close to that. the video didn't say anything except for everyday americans are being left behind didn't say how it wanted to -- how she wanted to help fix that the four issues he mentioned were three issues their boilerplate, an economy for tomorrow not yesterday. keep our country safe duh. i'm not discounting the importance, just that everybody agrees with that. and work for families and children, duh again. the news she made as you said was on money and politics and supporting a constitutional amendment. well i don't mean to be cynical, but first of all, wake me when that happens. that's not something within a president's control, and it would be years in the future. and i am having flashbacks to bill clinton who was raking in at the time tons of soft money, saying something i heard the clinton campaign saying yesterday, which is we're not going to unilaterally disarm in the interim. she gets some points. certainly some points with the left but it doesn't cost her anything. >> i asked jim omara the deputy -- yesterday at the first stop in monday sello. this is part of that conversation. >> on the economic issues she sounded more like elizabeth warren than hillary clinton. >> i just don't agree with that. she's been secretary of state, so we haven't heard her talk about economic issues as much but this is like being able to figure out whatever way you can, through better education, more fair tax system. you know, that is what d. that's what hillary clinton is about. this is day one official for the campaign and, you know she wants to talk more about that but she wants to hear a lot more about that. >> what does he think about marco rubio, that yesterday is over? >> i don't know that he meant her. >> it is -- having someone declared yesterday. >> the republicans have been really very, very focused on hillary clinton. you know that's their business probably to the detriment. i don't think that's what the american people -- they apparently do, and so you know she's really focused on folks here and having a great time doing that. >> she doesn't take offense at this up-and-comer freshman senator taking -- >> you can't, you can't. after all that she has experienced in the political world, that's not something she's going to take offense at. >> and money, she want to limit campaign money with a constitutional amendment. at the same time you are fund-raising, you will raise a ton of money. >> we hope to raise a good bit of money. we're going to need a lot of money. she's a tough fighter. shed we're going to continue to push to raise the resources we need. she does think this is a major problem, the amount of money in politics. that's an example of while -- ideas that she'll be, you know putting out there in the coming weeks while she's doing these visits and listening to people. so there will be some policy coming, and then later in the process she'll have more to say. chris christie went to new hampshire. this is something he had to confront while at a diener in manchester. >> i personally made sure that the bridges were working. >> oh, see? you know -- [ laughter ] >> which direction is the bridge going? i want to make sure -- [ laughter ] >> my anniversary. >> really? how did it go? [ laughter ] >> so, of course it followed in there that's new hampshire voters for you as well. the republicans have not been silent. one other republican clearly, darrell issa, this is the latest e-mail controversy, ann geren, "new york times" reporting today there was a letter back in 2012 asking her when she was still secretary for another four weeks about personal e-mails. it wasn't answered. the answer i'm getting from the campaign is that was not directed at her, but directed at every member of the cabinet as part of darrell issa's then investigation into the epa head lisa jackson and her e-mails, so it automatically went to the legislative affairs office which is basically the dead letter office here not to defend it but -- >> this is a query that went out, and it was in the waning weeks of hillary clinton's tenure at the state department so why is it only being released or leaked now at the start of her campaign. fair question but also a fair question to ask why it wasn't -- why we didn't know two years ago that in fact she had used a personal e-mail system if that query was sent directly to her at the end of 2012. >> ann geren, ruth marcus thank you so much another democrat thinking about running is senator jim webb considering a presidential run, as i say, was here in the hawkeye state last week. thank you for joining us. seeing what hillary clinton is doing up here are you more or less eager to get into the race? >> we had a very good visit to iowa. council bluffs waterloo, des moines moines, mason city sat done with a lot of people veterans visited an ethanol plant, met with a asian community. i felt good about the trip. listening to the comments she made yesterday, mrs. clinton made yesterday, a couple things struck me. first, that she started talking about executive compensation and the inequities in our country, the 300 times ratio that people -- executive heads make compared to workers. i started talking about that nine years ago on the campaign trail. i mentioned it in my state of the union response to george w. bush in '07. what particularly struck me is she was talking. i listened on the radio on this about hedge fund managers making millions, and actually paying a lower tax rate than nurses and truck drivers. i had to have a chuckle there, because i've used that example three different times on the senate floor, and i used it because one of my daughters happens to be a nurse, and my zonal drives a truck. i would say i'm glad she's over on this -- and american workers are needing this kind of voice and they want it from people who really mean it. >> senator, imitation may be the sincerest form of flattery but there a space for you, as she's so dominant with the organization, with the clinton machine, if you will that's hard for anyone else to get in is? >> well we faced the same problem when i ran for the senate. we had no money, and no campaign staff, nine months before the election, and i focused on where i thought the country needed to go. we're doing the same thing right now. it's definitely difficult in the areas you're talking about, fund-raising in an environment where much of the democratic party regulars are either contributing directly or are frozen, but we're getting a lot of good mail across the spectrum. i think people are looking for leadership they can trust. this is a time when i think a lot of people want to go back to the party of harry truman and franklin roosevelt. take a look -- think about harry truman what he would be saying to someone who told him he needed a -- a consultant to show him how to dress, or a lifestyle consultant telling him he needed to go to walmart. you know we need people who in politics, who will lead the same way they live. and what is your time frame? whether do you think you have to make a decision on whether to launch this or not? >> the iowa trip was very good for us. iowa is a place which has, you know, a very high political intelligence level. people want to see you face-to-face. we got out in a lot of different places across the state. got tremendous response and respect for the message. one of the messages that every seems to be respond to is that we have too much money polluting the american political process, and it's particularly gotten worse after the citizens united decision and we have to find a way to have the people power overcome the money power. that's really the best solution. we did it when i ran for the senate. we had 14,000 volunteers in virginia when i ran for the senate. we have to stop our/fuls from summer efg that you need a money primary before you have a political primary. so we're getting out talking to people. we'll just see how it goes. >> jim webb senator, thank you very much. good luck out there as you test the waters. >> thank you coming up next the president gives in on a veto threat after pressure from his own party on iran. we'll talk to the white house depend think national security adviser ben 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the iran deal saying he can get it through, he thinks despite the competition or conflict in congress appeared conflicting reports from iran. i'm joined by ben rhodes. ben, thanks very much for joining us. there's a lot that has to be done einternally sin the eye cola cola. >> we have a framework that we agreed to not just between the united states and iran but we've laid out the details. clearly the iranians for their own purposes are emphasizing different elements of that framework agreement. look there's very tough issues that still need to be nailed down as it relates to the implementation details that would put this framework into place. what the president has said if that deal doesn't match the framework that we agreed to in this is the framework to prevent iran from getting a nuclear weapon. >> how un -- did not nail down adequately is what to do about iran's past suspicious activity on warheads and missiles. >> first of all, we raised our concerns with the russian government. it is of concern anytime we see this type of transfer to the iranians. however, we think that the negotiation we continue to have good cooperation with russia in terms of pursuing the framework agreement and nailing that down into a deal. what we are looking at is in terms of the u.n. security council resolutions that have the multilateral sanctions in place, how do we preserve the multilat rat sanctions regime as it relates to things like ballistic missiles sensor technologies, the arms embargo, even as clearly there would be sanctions relief for the nuclear-related sanctions internationally. >> i want to ask you about cuba because of the big decision the president announced today, sending the her to congress saying he's rescinding the terror designation first placed in 1982. they have there is a lot of opposition, though principally from the latest republican entrant into the presidential contest, marco rubo. this is what he had to say to our colleague jose diaz-balart. >> it harbors fugitives of american justice, people who have stolen millions for medicare fraud, a cop killer from new jersey one of the people -- the ten most wanted people in america. this is a country that a government -- helped north korea evade u.n. sanctions. this is a country with two high military officials who have been indicted by a u.s. federal court for the murder of american citizens who are pilots and brothers to the rescue who were conducting a humanitarian mission. sounds like a terrorist state to me. >> any give at all, for instance on the fugitive who's been living in cuba for all these years, and i have killing the new york state trooper, at least accused of it. >> this is a question of whether or not cuba is a state sponsor of terrorism, and they're not. there are countries that have fugitives all around the world who are not on the terrorism list. there are countries in europe where there are fugitives that the united states is interested in pursuing. we're not putting them on a list of state sponsors of terror. we're focused on isil and what was focused in the past was is the relationship with farc and now they are having talks with them. 97% of the cuban people want normalization with the united states. in every survey we have seen the american people want to pursue this normalization with cuba. the effect of the additional financial activity now reaching an engagement that will come from the cuban people will be good for cubans and will help empower cubans and give them access to greater resources and information. what i would say to senator rubo, if we want a policy that helps empower the cuban people, we need to deepen our own engagement and listen to the 97% of cubans who have made clear they want to see this go forward. >> and opening embassyiesembassies? weeks or months? >> i think it will be soon andrea. where the two presidents met in panama they agreed to direct their teams to close out these remaining issues some very practical and technical issues about how the embassies operate. we want to make sure the diplomats have the ability to get out and engage in ordinary cubans, the cubans of course want to make sure they can operate and function here in the united states. including things like being ability to acbanks. we're working through the details, and open with embassies tonight. clear lir supported by both peoples. >> ben rose thanks so much. good to see you from the white house. we'll have a lot more coming up on cuba and the new relation shall with pat leahy, who's been a chief sponsor of normalizing relations in a moment when we return reporting from iowa andrea mitchell on msnbc. audible safety beeping audible safety beeping audible safety beeping the nissan rogue with safety shield technologies. the only thing left to fear is you imagination. nissan. innovation that excites. vo: with beyond natural dry pet food, you can trust our labels. when we say real meat is the first ingredient, it is number one. when we say there's 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