compromising their faith. barry lynn has reaction. in the best example yet men don't understand women's health the war on women in virginia takes an ugly turn. >> trans-v this and trans-v that. >> women's activist lizz winstead and now's terry o'neill is here. >> i drive amu mustang and pick up. >> mitt romney blunders through his speech. >> outrage in chicago continues over school closings. rahm emanuel is dismissing protest as noise. the reverend jesse jackson is here to respond. thanks for watching. the attacks keep coming on president obama from the right wing culture warrors led by rick santorum. last week the former senator of pennsylvania accused the president of the united states of having a phony theology. last night, he took it to a new level in an interview with psycho talker glen beck. he combined attacks on public education with his attacks on the president's faith. he lumped them together in one big giant sound bite of crazy. >> 62% of the kids who go in college with the faith commitment leave without it. >> um-hmm. >> i understand why barack obama wants to send every kid to college. >> oh, yeah. >> they are indoctrination mills. absolutely. and i floated the idea and am trying to figure out how we can make it work of somehow or another requiring colleges and universities who receive public dollars to have intellectual diversity. the indoctrination at university level -- >> they are hiding behind tenure. >> santorum things university educated students are a harm to our economy and country. this may be the most radical conspiracy theory we have ever seen from a presidential candidate. rick santorum is staying the president wants your kid to go to school and lose his or her faith, the connection with god. he's basing his indoctrination argument on a bogus survey. he says 62% of college students lose their religion? he is quoting a survey from the cardinal newman society the catholic group that led the failed effort to stop president obama from speaking at notre dame university in 2009. of course the expert on bogus analysis is on the board of directors of that society. rick santorum relies on false information to push his obama bashing anti-university conspiracy theory. it isn't the first time he's mentioned it. he went on the attack as soon as president obama said this in the state of the union address. >> higher education can't be a luxury, it is an economic imperative that every family in america should be able to afford. >> the day after the state of the union santorum gave his interpretation what the president meant when he said all americans should be able to afford college. >> no wonder president obama wants everyone to go to college. the indoctrination is one of the keys to the left holding and maintaining power in america. i bet you there are people in the room who give mon nae to colleges and universities undermining the very principles of our country every single day by indoctrinating kids in left wing ideology. stop giving them money. >> i had no idea morehead state screwed me up so bad. santorum's level of absurdity puts michele bachmann to shame. president obama is talking about shared sacrifice, everybody gets a fair shot in america, where is that country, advocating workers rights, civil rights, equal rights, trying to revive the middle class. important part of reviving the middle class is access to quality education, everybody gets a fair shot. rick santorum thinks the president wants your kids to go to college because they will be indoctrinated against faith. he commanded his supporters to stop donating to universities. he argued that he should be the republican nominee because he represents the best contrast with president obama. for once, i agree with him. please, michigan, please vote for this guy. i want santorum to win because i want to see the debate between the president of the united states who thinks everyone should get a fair shot and rick santorum who is against your kid getting a college education. get your cell phones out can tonight's question, do you think president obama is trying to indoctrinate your college-age children? text a for yes, b for no, to 622639. go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. we'll bring you the results later in the show. we're joined tonight by reverend barry lynn, executive director of americans united. reverend good to have you with us tonight. >> nice to be here. >> maybe i'm interpreting this wrong, i don't think i am, but rick santorum is condemning our university system across the country saying that they are the e pitome of moral rot. >> that is about as out of the main stream you can get and be out of the water. this is based on false information. even in the polls that say there are kids and there always have been kids that go to college and then it's not they lose their faith, they just don't become as engaged in church-related activities as they might have been when their mom and dad were forcing them to do those activities. one thing we know from the barner group, most respected evangelical polling group is that when young people go to colleges, they learn about science and they tend, therefore, in many cases no longer to take the bible literally. they learn science, they were not taught science in home schooling which rick santorum did for his own kids. the other thing is they learned to live with other people, including gay and lesbian students, they don't hate them anymore. university education is about debate, dialogue, discussion, it is not this fantasy world where somebody is trying to indoctrinate your children. that is completely false and as far as the undermining faith connecting it to higher education, you get to a point you have to say rick santorum apparently doesn't want kids to think at all because maybe that will make them more docile and can't tell truth from the falsity. >> he's saying the president of the united states wants people to be indoctrinated and wants to take people away from their faith. i find that absoluteoutrageous. does his type of rhetoric work with any religious group in the country or any time of believer out there? >> there are people who hate universities, they hate critical thinking. that is the idea you balance certain issues against one another, you make thoughtful decisions, because they are afraid that if you start to think critically, you might not believe everything you hear like from the very right wing politicians that they hope you vote for. and i'll tell you i was at the national religious broadcasters convention when i joined from you nashville, there are a lot of people there sitting in those seats when i was having a debate about hate speech on campuses, who didn't seem worried about hate speech at all, but they are worrying about the fringe issue, barack obama taking away religious freedom. barack obama has not taken away anybody's religious freedom. that may be more their methodology, it's not the truth. but there is an audience that is very receptive, the religious right never died, it's still 21% of the american electorate and when the pundits said after barack obama was elected we got rid of those people, no, i'm glad there were folks still fighting this ideology because it's non-sensical but would lead, if they would implement it to very, very dumb, unprepared students and that is the last thing we need. >> rick santorum is not the only one out there that is attacking president obama on religion. franklin graham, he's out there again, back out questioning president obama's faith. here he is on radio today. >> i'm asked, you know, if the president is a christian. i don't know, i mean he says he is so i guess he is and that's what he says. but at the same time, tony, there are the policies of the president and the administration that go against god's teaching and that is abortion. the bible is very clear on this, and i cannot support the president or vote for him because of his support for abortion and same sex marriage. for a candidate to actually oppose god's standard and then to vote for that person, you are compromising, you are joining in with them. >> reverend, is he telling christians they are compromising their values if they vote for president obama? what are your thoughts on this? >> i think he's taken it one step further. he's saying look, if you see sin and you in any way cooperate, this is another long-standing decades-long argument, if you vote for a candidate who doesn't see the world as a religious matter exactly as you do, you are in fact violating god's law. i got to make this clear, ed, the trifecta of untruths there. number one, the bible doesn't mention abortion for example. that what is that comment was about. second, the book of exodus says if you cause the loss of a fetus, it's not murder and third, even if those things were true, we have a constitution in the united states of america, it's not based on christian thought, it's not based on islamic thought, it's based on commonly shared values that all americans ought to accept. so it's more bogus stuff, franklin graham, piling on with rick santorum, piling on with newt gingrich, who of course doesn't like the court system, thinks there is a war on religion as does mitt romney. it's all nonsense. >> you put all these stories together, reverend, you have this story, the attack on the president's faith, the indoctrination when it comes to the talk of education, not funding education, the attack on women's health care, the attack on workers, the separation of income in america, it's amazing what is unfolding in the country right now. there has never been a more important election in this country. reverend, great to have you with us tonight always appreciate you coming on the program. thanks so much. answer tonight's question gs share your thoughts on twitter, we want to know what you think. next, one republican lawmaker in virginia that mocks the very legislation his party tried to ram through. we've got the video that you simply will not want to miss and we'll play it in the entirety. lizz winstead and terry o'neill will weigh in. republicans in the heartland, they want the poorest to pay more money while the rich get the big tax cuts. frank thomas will tell us what is the matter with kansas. 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[ male announcer ] for the road ahead, the all-new subaru impreza. ♪ experience love that lasts. we realize there was different kinds of ultrasounds. what i recommended to the general assembly they adopted the other day is let's make the requirement for the abdominal ultrasound. >> that was virginia governor bob mcdonnell, still trying to dig his way out of a political mess over women's health care. mcdonnell originally supported a bill that would require women seeking abortion to undergo a highly invasive trans-vaginal ultrasound. no exceptions, even in the case of rape and incest. after pressure, the governor caved and asked lawmakers to remove the requirement from the bill. republican delegate dave albo wrote the bill's compromise. albo's compromise requires a less invasive but mandatory external ultrasound to be performed. this has been a very divisive and extremely personal battle on women's health care across this country. and in the midst, in the very midst of this highly charged and emotional debate, albo, mr. compromise, took to the floor of the virginia legislature and turned the idea of state-sponsored rape in a punchline. >> the gentleman from alex san dree yeah apologized, but he owes an apology to me. because let me tell you what happened. on tuesday, after our contentious session, i went home, wanted to go see my kid and my wife. so i drove back home, i got home in time to see my boy, read him a story, put him to bed. and went down stairs to relax in the living room and my house, i have big, giant screen tv like 46 inch, probably as big as that. so, i say you know what i'm really rich, yeah. so i thought wow, the boy is in bed, wife here, tv. red wine. and can you do some theme music for me here? ♪ [ laughter ] >> got rita some red wine, sat next to her, used my patented cool move. i invented this, i went ohhhh, i'm so tired. i then turn on the tv to find the redskins channel. my wife loves the redskins more than me. got my theme music going, i start flipping through the channels. through the channels you have to get through the stuff, all of a sudden comes this big thing and a picture of a bill that has albo on it. i went wow, holy smokes, my name as big as a wall. the very next scene was the gentleman from alex san dree yeah's face going trans-v, trans-v this and trans-v that an they hate women, we didn't go far enough. goes on and on and on. and i'm like -- the show is over and she goes "i got to go to bed." [ laughter ] so if the gentleman's plan was to make sure there was one less republican in this world, he did it. i expect an apology from you later. in person on the house floor. >> well, it's the good old boys club, isn't it? in virginia, women's health care sp reduced to a joke. it underscores the fight women have in this country in 2012. let's bring in the president of the national organization for women, terry o'neill and co-creator of the daily show, lizz winstead, author of "lizz free or die." lizz, your reaction? >> the boy's club tone was completely shocking. the man couldn't even say trans-vaginal. this is this invasive procedure that even mcdonnell said would probably violate the fourth amendment, he can't say it. they look like men-boys. like children who have no idea the ramifications of what they are legislating or any of it. dplchlt what about the attitude, the free willing attitude like it's no big deal for women? >> that what is it fees like it's a joke, the trans-this and on the big tv, now my wife won't have sex with me. are you kidding me? this goes on in the virginia legislature in. >> terry o'neill, what does this signature to women across the country about the attitude some lawmakers have? >> we have work to do. the word is vagina, his state sponsored rape law required a trans-vaginal probe and trans-vaginal ultrasound. his so-called come rpromise is violation of women's rights. the fourth amendment? search and seizure? the law would have sponsored what have forced doctors to perform a rape, penetration without consent, that is how the fbi defines rape, that is what it would have been. and the compromise is very important to understand. governor mcdonnell i don't think we should have an invasive procedure as a requirement before another procedure can be done, but governor mcdonnell is fully in support of a medically unnecessary very costly non-consensual procedure as a legal requirement to be done before a woman can have an abortion which by the way abortion is still legal in the country and governor mcdonnell was way off base. >> terry, how gross was that what you saw on tape? >> it was really gross. gee, i don't want to say the word vagina, i just want to control women's reproductive lives, what they do with their own reproductive lives. it's offensive and it shows that we have an awful lot of work to do to remove delegates like this gentleman from the virginia legislature, certainly to remove governor mcdonnell and across the country to remove these extreme right wing ideologues, playing politics with women health or think it's okay to deprive women of health care. >> this week seven republican state attorney's general filed suit challenging the obama administration on the birth control policy, they claim the policy violates the first amendment, legal experts ait's a political stunt. lizz, what is your response? >> scalia said it 20 years ago, not everything that offends your religious beliefs is necessarily unconstitutional. this isn't asking one particular group or singling out one particular group it's saying you have to comply with everybody. and so it's a big -- again, a big waste of taxpayers money on the backs of women begging for dignity because they happen to be sexual beings. >> next week the senate will be voting on the blunt amendment which will be put in of all places the transportation bill, and the democrats are are saying bring it on. this is a political fight they definitely want and right now women's reproductive organs in the country are the biggest political football out there and become a joke on the legislative floor in the state of virginia. i find it absolutely amazing. terry o'neill, lizz winstead thank you for joining us. appreciate your help. mitt romney gave a speech in a football stadium today, the result was a fumble not a touchdown. later, a surprise announcement from bill maher, we have the tape you don't want to miss. you're watching "the ed show" on msnbc, we'll be right back. ♪ [ kareem ] i was fascinated by balsa wood airplanes since i was a kid. 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