bill: police are saying the suspect is likely behind five explosions in central texas going back to march 2. three died and four seriously injured in the blasts. sandra: police warning other package bombs cowl still be out there. we don t know where the suspect has spent his last 24 hours and therefore we still need to remain vigilant to ensure that no other packages or devices have been left in the community. so as we go through the day today, we want the community to remain vigilant. we need your community to remain vigilant and if you see something that looks suspicious or out of place or something that gives you concern, call 9-1-1. bill: that press conference happened three hours ago and now other bombs and where they may be because this individual may have by mail or placement put other bombs out there so everyone needs to remain vigilant to make sure they don t pick up a package reporter: and that is the strongest message we re getting from pretty much every official here. they don t know how many bombs this guy had built. they don t know how many bombs he left in what locations around austin. there remains the possibility that there could be other packages out there. so they do not want anybody to let down their guard at this point. but clearly, the bottom line, bill, this is a good day for austin. bill: jonathan, thank you. we ll be back with you. live this morning, jonathan hunt. sandra: the suspect s death puts an end to nearly a monthlong horrific stretch that left the city on edge. the first bomb detonated march 2 killing a 39-year-old man. then it was 10 days later another explosion occurred. this one a package inside a home killing a 17-year-old boy and injuring a woman. bill: in the same day across town, another bomb badly injuring a 75-year-old woman and this past sunday, two men seriously injured in a blast triggered by a tripwire. sandra: and yesterday a package bound for austin detonating inside a fedex facility outside san antonio while at the same time a suspicious package was found at a fedex terminal near the austin terminal. bill: and police tracked him down outside round rock where he detonated a bomb while in his car. with that behind us, what next? just gave this week was a sign to us they needed more information and tips included. they were plead the community. they were talking to the suspect himself to get him to communicate. to me that was a sign they needed information. they clearly got it when he started to deal with fedex and ran with it quickly. it s a great day for law enforcement in texas. bill: what about the two roommates? they ll do a meticulous search related to this suspect and look at his communications, the internet, how did he learn this and was anybody aiding and abetting, buying component, helping him in any way that was witting and knowledgeable. bill: some believe the amount of activity increased because he felt under pressure. typically in cases like this is that how it goes? these guys are relatively few ib america and i m not talking about something putting together a rudimentary pipe bomb with black powder but someone building complicated devices. we know from ted kaczynski the unabomber and eric robert rudolph, it looks like a lot of them had a particular inspiration and motivation. yet to be seen what this guy s was. he s a young man. was it just to sew chaos and watch the show? bill: we ll come back to you when we get more news out of tch texas. sandra: kristin nielsen will be appearing in front of the committee on election security on a state level. catherine, do we expect the secretary may address the recent events in austin? reporter: we expect some lawmakers to have questions nor homeland security secretary. she s been getting regular briefings on the austin bombings and the question will be if they were acting alone or had assistance and they ll have a security homeland security official for the state s voting system. we had the committee announce findings yesterday about their recommendations and one is they want to see federal money go down to the states to have them shore up that security network around the voting system and they announced those findings on the hill yesterday. our desire to be able to fully fund the elections within an individual state but it s a state s responsibility. if there s incentives we can put in place to spur them, it s the people of the states going to their state leaders and saying we want our election to be secure and to be able to take care of it in their own state will be the primary piece. reporter: aware of the best practices and equipment available. one of our recommendations is we figure out how to aud it and what states get the help when requested. reporter: they want to see state systems and have a back-up paper ballot for validation and want to see a threshold established so election interference would be declared a hostile effect allowing the government to take immediate and the while slamming 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there s going to be hearings on the hill with mark zuckerberg called up to testify, and i m fine with that, there should be investigations into how they were used and how they operate not just in the 2016 campaign but dating back to other campaigns as well. we saw just in the last few days a top obama campaign official from 2012 saying look, we did a lot of this stuff. it s now five, six years ago and some was against facebook s rules and they recognized what we were doing at some point and chided us after the fact saying we like you guys, we re on your side so we let it slide but don t do it again. that s a line of questioning zuckerberg should answer for. your point is well taken. it would be useful for the american people to understand with more specificity how their information is tracked and used by tech giants. bill: for some it may strike them the following way, strike one on russia. now it s big data, big tech. here s the second pitch on how you lost an election a year and a half ago. yeah, i think some of this is more excuse making from the democrats. are they happy when their side using it when they were micro targeting voters and was lauded as genius and cbs news reporting evidently the data gathered by this particular firm was never accessed and used by the trump campaign. there s one thing to focus in on. bill: small details. i m being sarcastic. i m with you on the sarcasm. it should matter. it s a legitimate story. i don t think it s the trump angle people in the media want it to be. what i read and based on everything i m gathering about this story, what does concern me is the possibility that this firm, cambridge, sort of defrauded people in terms of what they thought the information would be used for. people were told it was for purely academic research and ended up in the hand of a political organization. bill: maybe in the end that s the story that comes from this. facebook s statement if the data exists it would be a violation of policy. and apparently there was an agreement to destroy the data but we don t know how many of these companies have done a personality test and what they do with the data after 2015. tracking that down s going to take a long time. final point here, we haven t heard from zuckerberg. i imagine he s getting ready to do a long post on facebook and that will explain what he knows. last statement. we have to run. there ll be hostile tough questions from both sides of the aisle and he s one of the most powerful people in the world, frankly. he deserves some scrutiny. show up, answer questions and if there are abuses, fix them. bill: guy benson in washington. nice to see you. you too. sandra: authorities still trying to piece together the motive behind the deadly austin bombings. the multiple bombings in the past weeks. this as officials warn other suspicious packages could be out there. a former police chief is here to weigh in next. plus, how a quick-thinking security officer at a school stopped a 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releasing little information on the austin bombing suspect who detonated himself with a device as the officers zeroed in on him in the wee hours in the morning. this as officials warn more explosives may be out there. let s bring in a former chief of police and incident commander for the boston marathon bombing, there could still be packages out there and he may not have been working alone. absolutely. they have to find out if anyone was supporting him and where he had been in the last couple days, every location his gps or cell phone shows he s been and check package doors, fedex, ups, to make sure he didn t send devices elsewhere. it s good the immediate threat is over but there s work to do and follow-up to find out if there s other threats out there and how this happened, who supported him, how he did it and why he did it. sandra: it s interesting to hear how crucial the last 24 to 36 hours were. it was a day and a half, three days ago there were no major leads as to who was carrying out the crimes. the chief mentioned this individual may have been on the radar screen. i think maybe some enforcement, or questions or some action taken by law enforcement may have made him go forward to a bold move so going to a fedex facility where he d be video taped, that action, he had to have realized, would jeopardize his anonymity and it appears that s what happened. sandra: as they re warning us this morning, this investigation is still ongoing. what will they be look for now? what does the investigation look like going forward now that he s dead? they ll go back and figure out where the components came from, if it was just him alone, where did he obtain the knowledge. he has a versatility of bomb strategies that s not the norm. one people have one way of doing things and stick with it. he clearly changed the sophistication of a movement and motion-sensored device is not the average individual putting this together and how d he get the knowledge and was there support out there as well. and we ll have to look at the investigation. whether anything s missed. what went right. a lot seems to have gone right between the coordination from local, state and federal and let s make sure the next incident occurs, let s replicate that and in the future let s find them quicker should anyone else take this type of action. sandra: and part of the investigation is trying to figure out what the motive was. absolutely. i hope it s not other cases recently where we don t know what me motives were. it helps the victims and families in our community to figure out why somebody did something. not that there s justification but information the mind set of the individual is helpful in healing. trying to figure out why this happened and what caused this individual to do this, what the purpose of his attacks were would be something we d hope to discover as soon as possible. sandra: and we hope in the coming minutes, hours and days we learn more in austin. meanwhile, they re urging residents to still be vigilant and call 9-1-1 if you see anything suspicious. daniel linsky, thank you. bill: meanwhile, the start of a critical hearing on the hill. homeland security secretary kirstjen nielsen testifies. plus this, check it out. it s clear to me we re not sending the right message to putin about his behavior in our own backyard and had a chance to reenforce some allies and we missed that opportunity. sandra: that s some of the criticism president trump is facing for congratulations vladamir putin for what is seen as a rigged election. cory lewandowski is next. putin has been elected and that s not something we can dictate to them how they operate. we can only focus on the freeness and fairness of our election. something we fully 100% support. about to hold a hearing and there on the spot is kirstjen nielsen. she will testify with her predecessor, jake johnson which should be interesting. republicans will come from one angle, democrats from another. meanwhile the bombings in texas can come up today. we re monitoring all this and give you headlines from inside the hearing room. stay tuned for that and waiting on more news out of austin texas. it s been in the news all night long. still a lot we don t know. sandra: what a morning. a lot of breaking news coming pin thank you for being us. and president trump facing criticism for his decision to make a phone call and congratulate the russian president, vladamir putin for his victory in what many see as a sham election. the white house cited the importance of communication win all countries including russia. i had a call with president putin and congratulated him on the victory. his electoral victory. the call had to do also with the fact that we will probably get together in the not too distant future. we re going to continue to maintain the position we ve had and be tough when necessary. at the same time, we want to continue to have dialogue so we can work on some of the issues that concern both countries. sandra: joining me now is cory lewandowski chief strategist for america first action and author of the best-seller, let trump be trump. cory, people asking why did he make the call in the first place and more why congratulate vladamir putin on what many see as a sham election? it with a bit that long ago when president obama c congratulated vladamir putin and we didn t get the media outcry. he said he will work with leaders around the world where there are interests of the united states and there are interests when it comes to ridding isis in syria and continuing the economic sanctions on north korea and bringing kim jong-un to a position to denuclearize. and a message from our president from someone we need to work with is acceptable. sandra: and mitch mcconnell he said calling vladamir putin would not be high on my list. john mccain saying an american president does not lead the free world by congratulating dictators by congratulating them on sham elections. he s facing criticism. i remember when president won and leaders called him and bureaucrats said we don t take that phone call and we don t recognize taiwan and he picked up the phone and took the congratulatory call from the president of taiwan. why don t we want to have a relationship with other countries when it s in the best interest of the united states and we can work together for a common goal like stopping kim jong-un or getting rid of isis. i don t think senator mcconnell or mccain would be opposed to those things. sandra: the president went on a twitter storm over the weekend. in one tweet he said the mueller probe should have never started in the first place. in some of the latest tweets from the president this morning, corey, he is citing alan dershowitz yesterday a harvard law professor and quotes him on the twitter account he said whether a crime exists or not i m still opposed. president trump was right when he said there should have never been a special counsel appointed because there was no probable cause for crime, collusion or otherwise or obstruction of justice so stated by harvard law professor, al and dershowitz. as trey gowdy says if you have nothing to hide, answer the questions. the white house has done that and made available every individual who s worked in the administration. i think what the president s frustration is, and i think it s a fair frustration, is the investigation has been going on north of a year, almost a year and a half. we have spent millions of taxpayer dollars. there s been no collusion shown between the trump campaign and russia and russian officials. i was there. it didn t happen. what is fair at this juncture and what alan dershowitz is saying let s find a definitive date to end this. either we find collusion or close it and move upon i think it s a reasonable request. sandra: cambridge analytica what do you know of the data mined that many are under fire for the misuse of the data? i can t tell you anything about it. i can tell you when i ran the trump campaign cambridge analytica was not one our vendors. i had no interaction with them other than they came to us and asked us if we wanted to use them as a vendor. i told them nop sandra: jared kushner told forbes facebook and digital targeting were the most effective way to reach the audiences. now the white house seems to downplay the role it played. i do think every campaign tries to target individuals based on a model of who they believe would be their most ideal voter. and what that looks like is hey, here s a person that would seem to fit the mold of a trump voter based on demographic, education, et s etcetera and they try to build a model and facebook is a place the campaign tried to do that. sandra: interesting stuff. we ll see where that goes. a lot of people want mark zuckerberg to shut down and answer questions. and he should. sandra: you believe he should testify? absolutely. he s no better than anybody else and should be able to come to congress and answer what took place. people have the right to know if they re information was not used properly. sandra: corey lewandowski. good to see you. bill: we have this fox news alert. the associated press citing law enforcement sources and the news service is now naming the austin bombing suspect as mark anthony condit. police have not officially released his name but that s being reported on the a.p. he was 23 or 24 years old and said to be a white man and still no word on the motive and no clear indications about his roommates and we await more on that. in the meantime, president trump hitting back in the special counsel and firing former fbi deputy director, andrew mccabe by jeff sessions is on the mind of kentucky senator rand paul. he s hear live to react. sandra: and president trump looking to rally arguing there s no such thing as a red state democrat. once democrats get to washington, they always do the same thing. they vote for the liberal pelosi agenda down the line, 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against us. since the civil war, the party in power of the white house typically loses about 31 seats and two seats in the senate. we can t afford history to repeat itself. the one good thing we have with us say record. the democrats will try to co-op that. bill: richard, from the democratic perspective, you think about the race from illinois last night, do you find candidates in your party moving further left and trying to out flank and be more liberal? i think they re trying to frame up the democratic party and candidates. it s impossible. have you individual candidates running individual races. connor lamb ran a race for the pennsylvania 18. the race in the illinois third is won in the illinois third. what we ll do in the midterm election is run candidates that sound like the district. it s a deal we try to co-op trump s agenda is an alternative fact. connor lamb said the tax gi giveaway was for the rich. bill: does it get away from the left and move to the center? you re looking at it from a macro level and we re looking at it from a micro level. we re going to run races that look like the district. bill: brad, what about that? connor lamb did really well in southwestern p.a. the democrats feel it will be the recipe for success in november. anytime they can align themselves with the accomplishments of the president and get away from the hard left issues that are so divisive. we know in off-year elections people have to be motivate to come out to the polls. we have to sell our message people are better off today than under obama. look, we have unemployment that is basically full employment. we re about 4%. we have no inflation. people are feeling much better about the future. and they vote with their pocket books. if we sell a good optimistic economic message it s something the democrats cannot hope to do because they didn t vote for any of it. they re not selling it, number one. number two, we re a party that believes in work people and that s who we ll stand by. if you look at the alabama race, virginia and new jersey governor s race and pennsylvania 18th, we ran by candidates that stood by working-class people and understood the cost of health care is to high and prescription drugs interest are too high and we ll win in november. bill: 24 s the magic number in the house. history tells you 31 is usually the way it goes. get ready for the wave. bill: richard, thanks, brad, thanks. the blue wave like my blazer. bill: enjoy the white wave behind you. sandra: lawmakers are scrambling to pass a spending bill before the friday deadline as president trump blame the democrats. we ll have senator john thune next. never being satisfied never being satisfied and always working to be better. trusyou and lantus. you go together, so stay together. stay together with a $0 copay, you ve got zero reasons to leave, and every reason to stay. lantus is used to control high blood sugar in people with diabetes. do not use lantus to treat diabetic ketoacidosis, 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bad news from the fox news weather center. we re calling it a four-easter. it will be from d.c. up to boston. snow totals from 6 to 12 inches in some cases over that depending on the bands and in new york city heavy snow and 31 degrees and could be our biggest snowfall events all season. philadelphia getting freezing rain and snow in d.c. they could get several inches of snow and a couple inches in boston depending on where the exact track sets up. but right now, this forecast model shows snow in the forecast along the i-95 and it s going to be lasting throughout the midday into the afternoon into the evening and then into the overnight for parts of new england. it s a big deal. look at the snowfall totals, 6-12 easily and some areas could get 18-24 inches. this is a big deal. in some cases we ll shatter snowfall reports. and real quick, sandra, we have a big storm system in southern california. two big storms on both coast. we ll be following it in the fox weather center. bill: it s spring. we re watching the senate intel committee hearing room on homeland security and kirstjen nielsen testifying at the moment. and breaking developments in the texas bombing investigation. police reportedly identifying the suspect as mark anthony conditt. what was he motive? the questions remain at this hour. identified as mark anthony conditt, 23 or 24, not confirmed, has terrorized austin for weeks. they received critical information. they tracked the 24-year-old at a hotel 25 miles from austin where he set off a bomb inside his car as the s.w.a.t. team had him surrounded. late last night and early this morning, we felt confident this was the suspect in the bombing incident that took place in austin. we had surveillance teams looking for the suspect and we ultimately located the vehicle this suspect was known to be driving and witnesses told us he was driving and in fact we found that at a hotel right up the road here in round rock. we had multiple officers from both the police department and our federal partners that took up positions around the hotel awaiting the arrival of our tactical teams because we wanted to have ballistic vehicles here to attempt to take the suspect into custody as safely as possible. while we were waiting for those vehicles to get here, much time had passed and the vehicle start to drive away. we began following the vehicle again waiting to get the tactical vehicles here to make a stop. however, the vehicle ended up stopping on the side of the road behind us. as members of the austin police department s.w.a.t. team approached the vehicle, the suspect detonated a bomb inside the vehicle knocking one of our s.w.a.t. officers back and one of our s.w.a.t. officers fired at the suspect as well. the suspect is deceased and has significant injuries from a blast that occurred from detonating a bomb inside his vehicle. sandra: for more on this let s bring in texas lieutenant governor dan patrick. thank you for come on with us, sir. we now know the killer is dead. he is dead. this is incredible police work. i know we ve said it this morning several times and we ll keep saying it but i can t over emphasize it sandra and bill. countless lives will have been saved from future bombings from this evil person. the agencies did a great job and the federal government and texas state police and texas rangers and the texas police department. you have to think about this, sandra, every police officer always puts himself in harm s way investigating or being involved in a criminal activity but when you re taking on a bomber and when the s.w.a.t. officers surround him between 2:00 and 3:00 in the morning he could have thrown a pipe bomb at them or had his car or area booby trapped. they put their lives on the line. thank goodness they were not hurt. incredible detective work. we received an update from law enforcement. early last evening around 6:00 to 6:30 central time, we got a call from law enforcement that said they d zeroed in on this person and was a person of interest and after he was seen on cameras at the fedex location they pieced it together and within hours they d identified his home and had his home under surveillance and had two vehicles and they tracked him. incredible work. sandra: a lot of pieces to that puzzle to this speedy capture of this suspect. but what ultimately the biggest piece. what ultimately led them to him? i would say it s a combination of all the work over 19 days. when they saw the video, they said that matches someone we d been looking at. it took both pieces. once he changed his pattern instead of planting bombs in front of homes, he went to mail a bomb, that exposed him to the cameras and video and we saw the vehicle. it was both pieces of work. great detective work and heroism by the law enforcement officers. i want to remember people of two names, steven house the man with a daughter killed by the bomber and draylen mason who was going to get a music scholarship to u.t. who will never get a chance to walk on that campus and this was evil at its worse. this bomber would have killed, women, children, injured a woman it didn t matter. black, white or brown. he attacked everyone. again, by getting him last night, we have saved countless lives. you all have done a great job of reminding everyone today in the austin area, still be careful. sandra: what is it like on the ground because we heard the dhs secretary commenting on this at a hearing saying the public must remain vigilant. vigilant, yes. sandra: have authorities been able to rule out anyone else working with this killer? they haven t ruled anything out but at this point they do not have other suspects at least at the last briefing i ve received. he lived with one or two other people but we didn t know if he made the bombs in the house or elsewhere. maybe at this hotel. these are things we re going to learn. right now, we have as governor abbott said early on fox, we have the master mind. he s dead. this is great police work. it s good we erased evil but we have to find out the motive and if there s other accomplices. people have to remain vigilant. we don t know if he planted more bombs until the time they got him there were hours in there. so please, if you re in the greater austin area, still be very vigilant as you were this time yesterday and anyone just be suspicious of packages because he could have mailed a bomb anywhere. we don t know that yet. sandra: and you mentioned the two roommates. how will the investigation proceed looking into anyone else who may have been helping him or working along side him? well, i think based on what you ve seen from the combined law enforcement, they will be very thorough. it is my belief base on information i have, they found the other vehicle, he was using a second vehicle, because someone under surveillance they questioned him and found out this evil, low-life person was use a second vehicle. it led the tip to find the second vehicle last night and again it happened between t2:00 and 3:00 in the morning that they captured him and he was dead. again, we mourn the victims. sandra: certainly. bill: but we praise our heroes in law enforcement. sandra: heroes indeed working so swiftly and strategically. what a story in the wee hours of the morning surrounding his car as he then detonated an explosive device. dan patrick, lieutenant governor of the state of texas. thank you for coming on this morning. thank you, sandra. bill: this is going on the hill. senate intel committee on a hearing on election security. former secretary jake johnson is there. dhs secretary, kirstjen nielsen also testifying at the moment. peter doocy is live on the hill for headlines. what are they telling, you pe r peter? good morning. reporter: it comes after the senate intel committee recommended the best way, in their opinion, to protect future elections is to go back in time and start using paper ballots not connect to wi-fi. this bipartisan group of senators is calling for a shout out to any bad actors who may be playing planning to interfere with an election. the election has to stay a state-led effort and have to offer extra efforts like experts and money. and it follows more than a year of of their probing interference by russia in 201 including the worry now from the dhs is the number could grow this year. we have no evidence votes were changed as a result of their efforts. however, the threat of interference remains and we recognize that the 2018 midterm and future elections are clearly targets for russian hacking attempts. reporter: you can see how important it is to the united states senate because it s one of the only hearings happening today. about everything else on the hill has been rescheduled for a snowstorm that is very disruptive that came to town around dawn. the government is technically closed but the hearing is on. bill. bill: thank you, peter. peter doocy watching that for us. thank you, sir. sandra: meanwhile, former secretary j. johnson at the hearings defending the obama s administration s 2016 election interference. we were beating the drum pretty hard beginning with a conference call i had with every state secretary secretary of state on august 15. the good news is by election day, 33 states actually came in and sought our cyber security assistance and 36 cities and countieses came in and sought our cyber security assistance in the time permit. clearly, senator, as we look back on the experience two years later and we have a clearer picture of the full extent of what the russian government was doing, there could have been additional efforts made but i m satisfied at the time this was a front-burner issue for me. sandra: responding to election interference saying it was a front-burner issue for them. bill: and we know, and it s been said repeatedly, no votes were changed as a result of this. we emphasize that for the integrity of our own democratic system it s important to keep in mind they may have tried, and will try again. and the white house has said repeat lid repeatedly they have a plan in order and people are responsible to keep the election safe. there are calls for mark zuckerberg to step down after the cambridge analytica fallout. and we don t know if zuckerberg or cheryl sandberg if and when they ll testify. what can we expect from them? we ll tell you. sandra: and many disagreeing with the mccabe firing. how rand paul is respond. bill: and if you re just joining us, the austin bomber suspect in texas is dead. what led to the final explosion that ended his life overnight. was his goal to terrorize or did he have some other type of agenda? obviously, there was terror. what we need to find out and i think we will find out is did he have a different agenda other than terror. and that we don t know yet. platforms how it can be used and abused. i think it s important we come in and sort that out. sandra: an editor for the washington times is on with us and fox news contributor charlie hurt. thank you for joining us. it s got parties wanting answers and wanting to know what facebook knew, when they knew it. should mark zuckerberg testify? i think he will whether he wants to or not. you re right, it s an interesting issue. it s one i think is amazing congress is only now getting concerned about. i remember in 2004 covering the howard dean campaign which was one of the first presidential campaigns that utilized the internet and information in a way in a campaign that made it a powerful tool. then we saw it again come up in 2008 with president obama in 2012 where they used not only the data on the internet but also the social networks like facebook, twitter. kind of weaponize them to a degree that was effective. we have a federal elections commission that claims to oversee all this and regulate how much is spent and how much candidates use and collect from people. the idea is to put sunshine on all this. and this creates a whole big problem because of course, if you go on facebook and endorse some candidate on facebook, is that an in kind contribution? all these questions have not been sorted out and congress is just coming to it now. i m concerned because the reason they re coming to it is because of the trump campaign sandra: i wonder what changes are coming, charlie, based on what the outcome is. dianne feinstein weighed in saying if the industry won t solve the problems themselves, we ll have to solve them with legislation. i don t think that s the most desirable course but you can t have 50 million people lose data this way and then use the data as a weapon during an election. so 15 50 million people. that s a lot of people and we don t know what where the data is today. and it s not a data breach in a traditional sense. it was basically information handed over to cambridgia cambr cambridge analytica and it puts facebook on the hook and makes them culpable in this. if they want to go after them for that it could be very expensive. sandra: i ll tell you whose holding them accountable, shareholders. the stock lost more than 2% in the story breaking and low-level staffers meeting with congressional committees. charlie hurt, thank you. bill: 21 past the hour now. austin police urging people to stay vigilant saying the bomber could still have planted explosives before killing himself. sandra: and president trump calling out democrats saying they re the main reason nothing gets done in congress as lawmakers scramble to pass a spending bill. senator john thune joins us with his reaction. a vote for democrats is truly a vote for open borders. people pouring into our country. we have no idea who they are. people would stare. psoriasis does that. it was tough getting out there on stage. i wanted to be clear. i wanted it to last. so i kept on fighting. i found something that worked. and keeps on working. now? they see me. see me. see if cosentyx could make a difference for you- cosentyx is proven 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so far the biographical profile is unremarkable. he grew up in the austin area. was home schooled, went to community college. people say he was a loner. we didn t have early indicators like in the aftermath of the shooter at parkland where everybody said we knew he a huge problem and so far we re being told, quiet, relatively polite. nothing about a political proclivitiy and we have an i.d. and digging into it more but his background doesn t raise red flags. bill: my sense is on the investigative side they knew who they had probably two nights ago based on the video recovered march 19. if that s the case, they had his name and knew where he lived and have more information than they ve hold it at the moment. austin p.d. did a good job of preventing information getting out prematurely to the public in how far along they were in the investigation. it seemed they had a sense he was a person of interest and then moved to the suspect category. that may have coincided with the fedex drop off and that was on the radar and then they got the guy and were able to track him likely using cell technology. bill: to put a fine point on that. police were able to track him down at the drop-off store where they obtained this surveillance video. so that was a key component in this investigation. yeah, and i think that was also part of the time line shift. the fedex issue come up and there s still the issue whether there are other packages out there. until we get clarity on that everyone has to maintain a sense of heightened vigilance. bill: you did a lot of this work from new york city. from an investigative standpoint when you consider he had two roommates, what are they doing now behind the scenes? i worked on the counterterrorism side and they d be speaking to anyone around the individual to get a sense as to whether, first of all, they were involved in some way so there s the possibility of criminal jeopardy for some of the people they ll be talking to and then just to get a better sense of the profile of this suspect and how, if anything, law enforcement or anyone could have intervened beforehand to try to stop this from happening. what we ve seen so far this was not somebody who was a bright neon sign of trouble. this is somebody who based on the preliminary findings we ve seen, a loner, quiet, and not a lot on social media yet. usually that s the treasure trove of information that gets kicked open right away. bill: does it make the case more difficult? it makes it more difficult to understand why he did what he did. people treat social media like an ongoing diary or are a disconnect and we see this with jihadist. they like to go in navy chat rooms and will tell other people this is what i want to do. they like to brag about it. there s a malignant narcissism so far they like to display. with this guy we haven t seen it so far. i wonder if we ll have a neighbor or family member saying they were worried. bill: we don t know when the next press conference will be 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russian collusion. if there is no russian collusion, he should wind up, close his investigation and move on. what i don t like is they can subpoena your business records for the past 20 years and if you didn t fill out a form correctly with the irs you ll be convicted of something unrelated to russia. if there s no russian collusion, let s move on. bill: do you have a sense where it s going? i haven t seen evidence of russian collusion and i don t believe there was russian interference. did they try to influence our election, yes. what should we do, work deatoger to protect our electoral process. instead it s a witch hunt now that s become very partisan. now we re seeing people from the intelligence community turning out to be left-wing democrats and exposing the president and we have to be careful how much power we give to those in the intelligence community. bill: the president sent this week, when the full extent of your moral turpitude becomes known you ll take your place and you may scapegoat andy mccabe but america will triumph over you and you said what s disgraceful is attacking the bill of rights and the freedom of every american. you don t like the policies of john brennan, why did you write that? i think he ll go down in history as a partisan and now in the transition of law enforcement of trying to be even keeled. i m upset with what he said about the president and that he was a big advocate of basically unlimited surveillance of americans where they were collecting millions and millions of americans data and searching the data without a warrant. that was john brennan and james clapper. so these people will go down in history as not only not caring about the biffle bill of rights and inserting themselves and why we need more control over the intelligence community. and i think they should never be searching in americans records without a warrant. i continue to advocate that nobody, nobody on either side in the intelligence community should search an american s record without a warrant. bill: going back to kentucky, where you call home, think the deep state s alive and kicking? we ve seen so many biassed people. we have john brennan attacking the president in a personal way and james clapper attacking the president bill: i ll give you another one, from the u.n. there was a comment saying whoa, i didn t realize what i stirred up and tried it clear it up with another tweet. people on the out side are trying to figure out out. in the deep state there are facts that tells you there s an uncontrollable deep state in the intelligence community. only eight people are allowed to know what s going on and the eight people that oversee them have typically been a rubber stamp for the intelligence community. i want more oversight. i think all of congress should know more about what the intelligence community is doing and absolutely we should have judicial oversight. meaning judges should have to grant warrants to look at americans information. lisa page, peter strzok are they still allowed to access information. do we have people that hate the president allowed to access information about the president or the president s supporters. bill: last question on the big data companies, where are you on that now? i don t think people don t know people are watching when they go online. with regard to the private sharing of data, so when you log on and do a search on google or anything and search for shoes and later on shoes pop-up, most acknowledge that s how the internet works. are people giving too much data on facebook, that s a judgment their customers have to make and there s a way to prevent them from having your data and that s not to share it with them. i think the push-back will go back and forth but i think congress should stay out of it. if customers have a problem with facebook they can quit or if they breached their contract they can sue facebook. bill: that s very interesting. why do you think congress has jumped on this as quickly as they did? congress always tries to get in the middle of stuff but most the time is unseamly. it becomes a kangaroo court. as far as russia it s all kangaroo court. there s a real investigation with mueller and the investigation but all the stuff congress does is to puff themselves up and act as if they re doing something. but i don t like the idea of bringing facebook before congress because i think it s a matter between the customers of facebook and facebook. congress doing it, it s unseemly to drag them before congress and i m unfor not for it. bill: thank you. sandra: president trump taking jabs at democrats at a republican fundraiser last night. democrats like to campaign as moderates but they always governor like radicals. sandra: so will those comments help or hurt republicans during the 2018 midterm? south dakota senator john thune chairs the republican conference and will join us live, next. when i received the diagnosis, i knew at that exact moment, whatever 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s done in the baltics and in london poisoning people with the nerve gas say criminal activity. i wouldn t have a conversation way criminal. bill: chuck grassley strong words, the republican from iowa. sandra: and add that to other republicans including mitch member connell and john mccain who have had harsh criticism to the president s phone call. one thing they do great is obstruct. they re great at obstruction. they re wonderful at sticking in a block. they rarely break up though i think we ll break them up a little bit because a lot of them are saying nice things about me on certain states we won by a lot and they running in races, you know about that, right? but they really are a block. they just vote no. i don t think people want that when it comes time to elect sandra: president trump blasting democrats while at a fundraiser for republicans lashing out against democrats in congress and to nancy pelosi suggesting republicans are in good shape heading into the midterms. joining me is south dakota john thune. would you agree, senator, in good shape heading into midterms. democrats? sandra: no, republicans. . i think we re in good shape. i think what people focussed on when they start thinking about elections, which is early, it s a ways off, they think with the economy and their pocket books and whether their lives are better now or two or four years ago. if you look at every indication, unemployment s at a 17-year low last month in february, more people entered the workforce than have in 40 years. over 800,000 people and that will affect the way people vote. sandra: the president placing blame on democrats calling them obstructionists. the things have gotten done has been in spite of democrats. the president has been instrumental in making sure he s getting nominees up here we can process. what we have seen from the democrats is historic levels of obstruction particularly on the president s nominees. if you go back to the previous four administration in the first year of those four administrations combined, there were 32 nominees filibustered by the opposing party. this president has had 78 already. so we spend a lot of our time working through filibusters and waste time on nominees we could use to work on other things. sandra: there s a lot of work to do before the friday deadline and passing the spending bill. will that happen? i think it will. it s always challenging and you re dealing with democrats who use these opportunities as leverage to get more spending. this is how they grow government. they use every opportunity to fund the military and things we think are important, fund the border, they use it to increase their social services. we re trying to get the necessary votes to pass a bill in the house that does the important things we need to do like taking care of our military and dealing with the opioid crisis and infrastructure and things like that. but obviously dealing with democrats who have a tremendous amount of leverage makes it challenging because in every case what they advocate for is more spending and government. sandra: it s a question a lot of folks at home have as well, how do they keep getting to this point. another deadline. have to fund the government or it s going to shut down. it seems we keep getting here. we do. of course this all starts with the budget process and what s happened in the time we ve been the majority is the democrats blocked appropriations bills so we end up with a pile-up at the end of the year. it has to change. i m a big advocate of budget reform. i think we have to transform the way we budget. it would change the way washington works more than anything else we can do. we need to move aggressively to change that. sandra: and real quick, senator, if i could get you to weigh in, you just heard chuck grassley weighing in on the president s phone call congratulating putin on his election victory. a lot of members of your party have spoken out taking issue with that phone call. did you have a problem with it? i m not sure why the president felt he need to call and congratulation vladamir putin on what was a fake election. i think most of us don t see that as necessary. obviously it s a decision the president ultimately makes. but i think his advisors were advising him against it but in this circumstance i d listen to advisors. sandra: i know there s weather there in washington. senator thune thank you for coming on this morning. bill: fox news, dozens are dead after an attack overseas. another bombing in a capital city that s dealt with this for far too long. details on who s behind the attack coming up next. for all the eyes that get itchy and watery near pollen. there s flonase sensimist. it relieves all your worst symptoms including nasal congestion, which most pills don t. and all from a gentle mist you can barely feel. flonase sensimist. six minutes away on happening now terror ending in austin, texas. we now know the name of the suspect but what was his motive? we hope to learn more. and the deadline fast approaching for a new spending bill. how close are lawmakers and what s in it for the military? we ll talk to senator james enhof about that and it may be spring but another major winter storm is hammering the east coast. how long will it last? how bad will it get? all ahead, happening now. bill: thank you, john. at least 29 are dead, dozens injured after a suicide bomber blew himself up in the crowded part of kabul. benjamin is watching this for us. reporter: it s a latest in the series of attacks by the terrorist group and they seek to divide the country at a crucial time for u.s. presence on the ground and the future of the country itself. the latest attack was carried out by a lone suicide bomber who targeted a crowd of hundreds who gathered to celebrate the start of the persian new years festival. isis claimed responsible soon after it happened. the death toll has risen to 52 with 52 wounded but the number is sadly expect to rise. the crowd gathered outside a shia shrine with young people singing and celebrating. everything and they now seem to focus on attacks in the city. u.s. and afghan officials say it s an response to airstrikes and military strikes which have pushed them back to rural areas. in the last week we ve seen general dunford, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff visit ahead of the offensive. that s when the taliban will launch more attacks in the country. what we ve seen is the u.s. pull troops and hardware out of iraq after the fight against isis has come to an end. moving it to afghanistan. expect there to be real pushback business the tal ban tal i ban. bill: thank you for that. sandra: a suspected serial bomber is dead. we now know his name and a live report from the scene, coming up. .
wasn t plausible, wasn t believable but it was at least relatively co teernt. to recap, michael cohen and his surrogates on tv had been claiming for months that michael cohen, the president s attorney, facilitated as cohen put it $130,000 payment to stormy daniels who says she had an affair with the president 12 years ago. now, the money came out of cohen s pocket allegedly taken from a home equity line of credit we were told. the president had not repaid it. in fact, mr. trump knew nothing about it they claimed and despite coming as it did in the closing days of the campaign the payment supposedly had absolutely nothing to do with the election. nothing to do with skel change an embarrassing story 11 days before the election. on wednesday night rudy guiliani went on fox and said this to sean hannity about the daniels payoff. it s not campaign money. no campaign finance violation. they funneled it through a law firm. funneled through a law firm and the president repaid it. oh, i didn t know he did? yeah. the president repaid cohen, he said, so that that was the damage control. and it s a sign of how well it played that mr. guiliani was back on fox the very next morning to try to clean up his mess, except he didn t, he made an even bigger mess because he blew a hole in perhaps the most important claim that michael cohen had been making, that the original hush payment had nothing to do with the election. cue legal eagle, rudy guiliani. imagine if that came out on october 15th, 2016 in the middle of the last gate. cohen didn t even ask. cohen made it go away, he did his job. imagine if it came out then, just like that michael cohen s claim that it was just a coincidence this happened less than two weeks before the election became even more laughable. remember, cohen had said he could have made the payment months before but just happened to do it when he did it. just a short time after that fox appearance as all this was blowing up mayor guiliani told cnn he had, quote, carefully coordinated with the president on his hannity appearance. quote, you won t see any daylight between me and the president, he said. so then yesterday the president put out that string of tweets which were in very lawyerly language expanding on what guiliani had laid out. today, though, the coordination broke down. first on the south lawn and then at joint base andrews, the president knowingly or not made a stunning admission, his surrogate while nice enough had his facts wrong. he started yesterday. he ll get his facts straight. he is a great guy. but what he does is he feels it s a very bad thing for our country i will tell you this, i will tell you this, when rudy made the statement, rudy is great, but rudy had just started and he wasn t totally familiar with every you know, with everything and rudy, we love rudy, he is a special guy. what he really understands is this is a witch-hunt. he understands that probably better than anybody. so the president of the united states sent out his lawyer who didn t have the facts straight who had just started to clean up the mess with full confidence. he did not say exactly about what rudy guiliani did not have his facts straight about and guiliani is it not clarify matters with a statement late today. quote, there is no campaign violation, it reads. the payment was made to resolve a personal and false allegation in order to protect the president s family. it would have been done in any event, whether he was a candidate or not. my references to timing were not describing my understanding of the president s knowledge but instead my understanding of these matters. now, maybe it s because i did not go to law school, but i have no idea what that last sentence means. quote, my references to timing were not describing my understanding of the president s knowledge, but instead my understanding of these matters. guiliani was apparently referring to his claim on fox and friends yesterday that the president only fully learned about his repayments to cohen, monthly bills totaling nearly half a million dollars very recently. he didn t know the details of this until we knew the details of it, which is a couple weeks ago. maybe not even a couple maybe ten days ago. okay. wait a minute. so rudy guiliani is saying that neither he nor the president explained i mean, they neither explained how it could be that the president who is not known as someone who throws his money around loosely or sometimes at all could have been paying all that money without knowing what it was for and didn t learn about what it was for until ten days ago. so when the lawsuit was filed against him and michael cohen, he never asked anyone about what had happened when he watched stormy daniels on 60 minutes along with some 20 million other people, he never asked anyone if he had repaid michael cohen? that just seems hard to believe. this morning the president refused to clarify. when did you find out what the retainer was being you re going to find out because we re going to give a full list and people know and virtually everything said has been said incorrectly and it s been said wrong or it s been covered wrong by the press. just like nbc and abc yesterday covered the story wrong. but you will be finding out. it s wait a minute. it s actually very simple. it s actually very simple. but there has been a lot of misinformation really, people wanting to say and i say, do you know what, learn before you speak. it s a lot easier. learn before you speak, it s a lot easier. the president says it s actually very simple. you would think if it s so simple rudy guiliani would have cleared it up in his multiple tv appearances or his multiple published statements. you now know that the president is someone who believes in thinking before speaking and not having the facts is short coming unless it comes to more than 3,000 false or misleading statements after taking office according to the new york post. in all fairness bob mueller worked for obama for eight years. that s republican bob mueller nominated by republican george w. bush who served five years in the obama administration. always good to have your facts straight. now it seems he cannot even keep his story straight. sources tell us that the white house legal team is calling rudy guiliani s performance a fiasco, though apparently they re using stronger language than that, the word they re using rhymes with hit show. here is the cherry on top, the one person other than the president who truly knows everything says rudy guiliani doesn t know what he s talking about, we re talking about michael cohen talking to donny deutsch. according to donny deutsch he said, look, there are two people who know exactly what happened, myself and the president and you will be hearing my side of the story. more tonight on how the white house is handling all of this or mishandling, pamela brown joins us with that. the president saying guiliani needs to get his facts straight. according to your sources how prepared was he before he went on fox? not prepared at all. anderson, i m told by a source familiar with the matter that he had very little information before he went out on fox to discuss the stormy daniels matter. that he wasn t fully briefed up on all the details, had hasn t looked at paperwork surrounding the case, surrounding these payments and repayment. so essentially he was winging it and flying blind in a sense without having all of the facts. but as you pointed out, anderson, rudy guiliani said that he had coordinated this with the president but yet then the president came out today and undermined rudy guiliani, saying that he needs to get his facts straight before he goes out there and talks. he wasn t specific on how he needs to get his facts straight and, you know, whether he really did coordinate with rudy guiliani. he also sort of tried to explain it away, anderson, by saying he just started. look, he is brand-new, he went out there, just started, go i have him a break kind of thing. well, look, he started a couple of weeks ago, anderson, he has already met with robert mueller s team. rudy guiliani didn t just start when he gave that fox news interview. also, i mean, there s no there was no reason he had to go on fox news on that day to do this. so you would think if they re choosing to send him out on fox news, that he would have read some papers about it. what is behind i mean, do we know what s behind the shifting stories? right. and on top of that let s remember rudy guiliani isn t wasn t brought on board to be part of the stormy daniels case. i mean, all of that dealing with michael cohen, the payment, so forth, that s run out of new york. rudy guiliani was brought on to represent the president in the robert mueller investigation which makes it even more puzzling that he would go on and just bring up these details that only added confusion. it does seem like there are shifting stories. the president came out today and said the story hasn t changed at all, but best case scenario is it just created a lot of confusion because the president had said aboard air force one he didn t know about the payment michael cohen made to stormy daniels, then you have his attorney if going on fox news a couple days ago saying that the president had repaid michael cohen for that payment and then we just saw cleanup ever since with that interview raising questions about whether the president lied and whether this was a campaign finance violation because it wasn t reported to the fec. then you had rudy guiliani himself attempt to go clean up with the statement he released today, anderson, saying that there is no campaign violation, that it would have been made whether the president was a candidate or not. and then going on to say the references to timing were not describing my understanding of the president s knowledge but yet he said he coordinated with the president, anderson. yeah, i mean, it s it s baffling. pam brown, thanks. two legal views now from alan dershowitz also norm eisen. professor dershowitz is author of many books, most recently trumped up. professor dershowitz, every day there is a shifting explanation and more confusion when it comes to the stormy daniels payment. is it even clear to you at this point what the president s official story is and has this back and forth with rudy guiliani opened him up to even more legal exposure? well, it certainly exposes him to criticism. they have not been speaking with one voice or presenting one clear narrative. i think the best narrative they have, i don t know whether it s true or not, is that this guy cohen was on retainer, he was the fixer, he was paid $35,000 a month to fix up all the problems and at the end of the year they would true up and find out if he paid more than he got and the president didn t want to know specifics about any particular cases, he just wanted everything to be fixed. you know, that really does create more political problems than it does legal problems. i mean, he has put his client in greater legal jeopardy and also i just don t even understand and i m not sure they even understand what their stories are. guiliani says absolutely this had to do with the campaign, then today he said no it didn t and he said also yesterday that the president only found out ten days ago, which is just ludicrous. the campaign finance argument, he exposed trump now to being part of a conspiracy with michael cohen. he even hinted that it had to do with the election when he went on fox and friends and talked about how it would have looked if it came out in october. he exposed mr. trump to a felony charge for filing false presidential financial statements because he admitted that there was a debt to mr. cohen that mr. trump knew about it, paid it back. it wasn t on his forms that he filed. and then perhaps worst of all most telling of all on the obstruction front he came up with a third and yet a different story that trump wanted comey to exonerate him. well, that s pressing for a change in the investigation before it s done. that implicates on obstruction as well as the changing stories. what a disaster. professor dershowitz, i mean, to guiliani s point that making this payment and if it had been known during the campaign that, you know, it would have been it would have been terrible for the campaign, that flies in the face of everything that michael cohen has said, michael cohen s supporters have said, their whole line has been all along as incredulous an ridiculous as it sounded when they said this this had nothing to do with the campaign even though this deal was done 11 days before the election. nobody would believe that. that s not credible. the only credible story they could tell which would be helpful would be to say, look, mixed motives. he obviously didn t want his wife to find out about this, he didn t want his children to find out about this and he didn t want the american public to find out about this. so all of these things were relevant to why cohen paid the money so that she wouldn t announce, but it was 15 days before the election and the idea that maybe they didn t tell the president about this 15 days before the election, here is an event that could undo his campaign and he doesn t get to know about it, it just flies in the face of cred ult. the idea that michael cohen is on this permanent retainer, the president said he did very little legal work for mr. trump, that he is on this permanent retainer, he just gets this money and mr. trump doesn t know anything about what he is a he doing. i can understand maybe not wanting to get involved in the details as they re happening but the idea that his attorney would not at least call him up and say, do you know what, that stormy daniels issue we took care of it, it was only $130,000, there is this other thing i mean, the idea that he wasn t informing him along the way now just seems ludicrous. anderson, it s just silly. they ve tied themselves into a pretzel in order to cover for the president s statement on air force one standing there in the doorway of the cabin unequivocally that he didn t know about the payments. now they have to tie themselves into a pretzel. they are simultaneously saying that the president, who once won a spy magazine contest for the cheapest celebrity in america, i believe he cashed a check for 13 cents, that he s going to dish out 35 grand a month without knowing why. it s absurd. i want to give alan some credit because in acknowledging how ridiculous it is that the president wouldn t know about this event from the get-go, he s playing it straight. of course the president knew about this, the problem is that as alan admits, the reality puts the president in deep, deep legal jeopardy. norm guiliani violated alan guiliani violated the first rule you taught me almost 30 years ago. first do no harm. but, norm, don t give me credit. i m not on trump s side. i m not trying to help trump. i m trying to tell the american public what the law is and what the truth is. i have to tell you that i really do think that if they had played this straight from the very beginning what he did was probably not illegal. when you get to hear that there is this kind of come out before the election and you know it will hurt your family, you know it will hurt your standing, if the president had been straight and paid the money directly in order to avoid this coming out, there would be no crime here. there would be no violation of election laws, there would be no violation of any other kind of laws. it s the story that gets them into increasing difficulties because they don t have a single voice. and the other thing i hope i taught you is when you re representing somebody in a very complicated case, you have to speak with one voice. it has to be a single narrative. it has to be clear and unambiguous. it should be in writing. it shouldn t be off the cuff. it shouldn t be hannity on television and it shouldn t be this guy saying one thing and the people in the white house learning about it by watching it on television. this has been terribly mishandled. i m not admitting anything, norm, i m saying it because i m not on his side. professor dershowitz, ambassador eisen, thanks very much. there is a political dimension obviously to all of this that is making even republicans a bit queasy, retiring moderate republicans from traditionally blue states. congress charlie dent for one. let s put the shoe on the other foot, he said if a democratic president had paid off a porn star to keep quiet while he was president i suspect we would have oversight hearings. i spoke with the congressman earlier this evening. congressman, i know you think congress should hold hearings to get to the bottom of the payment to stormy daniels. can you explain why you think it s congress business to investigate. well, anderson, i would clarify what i said the other night. i said had the shoe been on the other foot, had a democratic president, you know, paid off, you know, a porn star for $130,000 i m sure we as republicans would be holding hearings ad nauseam. i m not really crazy about the idea of hearings, although i think there s probably some level of oversight, committees may want to inquire about what exactly happened here. the bigger issue in my view is credibility. on the one hand the administration had repeatedly stated that michael cohen did this on his own, when frankly very few people believe that. i know very few people who believe that michael cohen out of the goodness of his heart paid the settlement out of his own pocket without the expectation of reimbursement. then it was divulged by rudy guiliani and i believe exactly what he said was that he was in fact cohen was in fact reimbursed. i think this is a bigger credibility issue for the president more than anything else. the president this morning said that when it comes to rudy guiliani he will, quote, get his facts right. the president didn t clarify exactly what julia en had gotten wrong. i m wondering how you interpret what the president is saying. that s a bit of a head spinner to me. i ve known rudy guiliani for many years and i was one of the first people to endorse him members of congress when he ran for president in 2008. i have a high regard for the mayor, great job he did in new york city when he served there. so i think rudy guiliani was basically speaking truth as he understood it. you know, maybe he didn t say it as artfully as he did in his statement today, but i m not sure exactly what rudy guiliani said the other day that was incorrect. and then he released another statement today, i guess in an effort as he put it to clarify what he had said over the past three days, which if you have to release a statement to clarify what you ve been saying that s never a good thing. he said, quote, my references to timing were not describing my understanding of the president s knowledge but instead my understanding of these matters. does that clear up anything for you? because i ve now read that several times and i still don t quite understand what it means. i was trying to understand that, too. i mean, i think the basic issue that he conveyed the other night and then and then again today, he didn t change t which was this, that michael cohen received reimbursement for the payment to stormy daniels. that s the fact. but the truth is the president and others in his administration, press secretary and others had stated just the opposite, that he had no knowledge and the president made a statement on air force one that he didn t seem to have any knowledge or awareness of the whole situation. so i think that s really what the issue is is it comes back to the credibility issue. why would he have not why would they have denied any knowledge of this when, in fact, they did know. just big picture what do you think is going on here? is the president lying? is rudy guiliani lying? are they both lying? i mean, it just seems they ve twisted themselves into pretzels here. i think rudy guiliani was being truthful the other night. maybe he wasn t, again, it wasn t as artful or as delicate as he needed to be in his presentation, but, again, the bottom line is that michael cohen was reimbursed apparently by the president with individual money, not campaign money or corporate money, but his personal money. he reimbursed michael cohen. i mean, that s the story. i always felt that was the case and i don t know anybody i can t imagine many people in the country actually thought that michael cohen was going to pay a settlement on behalf of his client without the expectation of reimbursement. i never heard of any la you are who would do that. i appreciate your time. thank you. thank you, anderson. great to be with you as always. we will have more on this after the break including the big picture from carl bernstein who has been out ahead of the 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i can t believe as the congressman just noted, i know of no serious republicans that i ve talked to who believe anything about the nondisclosure story. carl, i have to interrupt. hang on, there s breaking news. right now on michael cohen and hundred, it comes from michael roth felled, the headline u.s. probes cohen over cash he built up during campaign. trump s lawyer took out lines of credit to secure access to as much as $774,000 as race heated up. michael roth felled joins us on the phone. michael, this is literally just been posted, i haven t been able to read the article. explain what you have learned. hi, anderson. what we reported is that michael cohen doubled his home equity line right as donald trump was in the height of his political fortunes rising and going into the primary campaign in february 2016. so he closed off his existing home equity line of $255,000 and took out a $500,000 home equity line and we know that he s said he used part of that to pay stormy daniels nine months after that and furthermore rudy guiliani said this week that michael cohen settled other things for donald trump. we don t don t know whether he used the home equity line for that as well. it s interesting. i mean, again, michael cohen has all along said that he did this on his own without consultation with donald trump. this does sound, though, like a far more organized and premedicated, pre thought out plan to get a pool of money. is that a correct reading? it certainly seems that way. i mean, he, as i said, he he took out an additional $250,000 in ability to borrow against his apartment right at the time when trump was going into the republican primaries and successfully he had been holding a lead against his, you know, more experienced riflevie valls. it indicates that cohen may have been looking to have a stash of cash on hand essentially to settle problems with throughout the campaign. we reported that tonight also that the southern district is looking at that more broadly in terms of cohen s ability to raise money, like how was he raising money through his own personal assets, like in medallions and real estate potentially to use that for settling problems for trump and whether any laws were broken in that regard. the other thing that we recorded in this story is that in november of 2015 cohen cosigned with his in-laws a mortgage in which they took $529,000 in cash out of an apartment at a trump building so essentially they got $500,000 three months earlier than that. we don t know how that money was used, but, again, the prosecutors are looking at cohen s cash flows, generally speaking, and how he used the money that was available to him. obviously you were just reporting what you know and i don t want to go down the road of speculation here, but it just is had it seems highly unusual it was highly unusual when michael cohen said that he took out a home equity line of credit for the $130,000, it seems even more unusual that an attorney for somebody for a billionaire like mr. trump would stockpile his own money during a campaign if i mean, if the idea was to have this pool of money in order to handle things. it sounds like the pool of money would be to handle things without any association directly to mr. trump. yeah, and that s what s being investigated essentially. like was cohen doing these things kind of to keep anyone from finding out and, i mean, he has said i mean, yes, you re right, it s absolutely an unorthodox way to do things, i mean, period. a lawyer taking money off a home equity line to pay a former porn star is obviously not something that most lawyers would do, especially when, i mean, they essentially send their client a bill and say, you have to pay this money. so that s definitely unorthodox, but, you know, it appears that cohen was at least what s being investigated is what was he doing, you know, secretly essentially. yeah. i mean, so that s that s where we are. right. and if it s unusual for an attorney to take $130,000 out for a particular deal, it s even more unusual for an attorney to in advance, you know, refinance his life basically in order to get a pool of money for whatever else may be coming down the pike during an election. i mean, it s really unheard of. i ve never heard of an attorney let alone doing one deal using the home equity line but sort of stockpiling money for an effort is just extraordinary. yeah, that s right. i mean, but, you know, again, we have to say we don t know we know what he said he used 130 that would have allowed him another 100 and change on the home equity line. we don t know how that money might have been used and whether he used it for anything other than that that you might tradititr traditionally use for and a home equity line. carl bernstein, what do you make of this? this has been just been breaking as we re talking. once again, the key to all of these investigations is follow the money and follow its lies and particularly when it comes to michael cohen and his relationship to the president of the united states, it s clear by now from what we know that cohen is absolutely essential to what the mueller investigation is doing as well as the southern district investigation in new york, that his use of funds on behalf of donald trump is going to be a big part of an ongoing story. and there s something else of great significance and that is the role of the wall street journal here. we keep hearing about fake news from the president of the united states throughout this investigation. in fact, the wall street journal with the washington post, the new york times, cnn, but the wall street journal which is owned by trump s friend rupert murdoch has done great reporting, not fake news, throughout this year and i think we need to take a look at that, too, as part of this story. right now tonight. because what we are seeing is the effort by donald trump while these investigations are closing in on him in new york, in washington, with mueller, to undermine and throttle and overwhelm the duly constituted rule of law and investigations by the special prosecutor. and now here again we see where these investigations appear to be going and that includes the suggestions that we have of collusion and we don t know if michael cohen figures in the investigation of collusion or not. we know his travels are being looked at in eastern europe by the special prosecutor. so enough of the fake news. yeah. coming up next more from carl. we will also be joined by gloria borger. later the president speaks to the nra a few months after he said he was open to changing gun laws in the wake of the parkland shooting. we will hear what he said plus speak with two of the parkland survivors next. 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having been there was when his fortunes and his poll numbers started to rise as a presidential candidate. we know he won the new hampshire primary on february 9th, for example, and he became suddenly a serious sacandidate out of al of these 17 candidates. nobody was dismissing him anymore. the question you have to raise is that we thought this was a campaign and i ve been told this by people in the campaign, you know, we never expected to win. we never expected to win. and suddenly when he became a serious candidate, well, maybe they did expect to win and maybe there were other things that had to be dealt with. i mean, i m jumping to a conclusion here and i shouldn t because this is not my reporting, but i think you have to ask the question about why anyone would need access to the cash and i think they are going to be looking into it according to the wall street journal, you know, bank fraud about whether cohen was misstating the reasons he needed the money. right. carl, if the money was for and we know $130,000 of that home equity line was for the stormy daniels payment ultimately which, you know but if the money was for other things related to candidate trump, it does raise the question why was this attorney doing this with his own money instead of just having mr. trump set aside a certain amount of money for him to operate with. and i assume the answer to that would be to have some deniability between the two. this has from the wall street journal account all the appearances of a campaign slush fund, to pay for nefarious acts that the candidate did not know did not want known and the payments were made through his fixer. that is what the wall street journal story points toward and it s very interesting because in watergate the key to watergate that really broke everything open was the discovery of a slush fund that was used for nefarious purposes that was meant to be hidden and it carried out the wishes of the candidate. now, that i don t want to speculate on where this is going to go, what it means, but it is all part of a pattern that we are seeing in this investigation and dwr from the beginning michael cohen has been key to everything having to do with nefarious activities in the trump campaign and also figures in the russian investigation. so these matters are coming together now as more and more reporting is being done by the wall street journal and other news organizations and by the special prosecutor. let me push back on that a little bit. a, you used the term nefarious. signing an nda with stormy daniels that s not nefarious so we don t know what beyond the $130,000 for stormy daniels for the nda we don t know what the rest of this money was actually for. no, but i think we could characterize given what we know about the nda with stormy daniels that this would fall into the nefarious category, certainly until shown otherwise. all i m suggesting here is the presence of what the wall street journal story would seem to have identified as what really looks has the appearance of a slush fund. and, you know, by the way, anderson, when michael cohen said that he paid for the $130,000 out of his own out of his own pocket, this wall street journal story may actually prove that. that, in fact, he did and that, in fact, he may have taken care of other business with this. i mean, we don t know the reasons he took all this money out, but it may prove his point. the assumption all along was that he took out a home equity line of credit in order to raise the $130,000 to pay stormy daniels, but again, this seems to indicate this was done before and raised a lot more money than the $130,000. and raised a lot more money, for what reason it could have been personal, but we don t know. carl bernstein, thank you. gloria, we will talk more about this in the next hour. coming up what the president said to the nra and what two survivors of the parkland shooting think about what he s saying now. you ve been saving for, you can do it. we can do this. at fidelity, our online planning tools are clear and straightforward so you can plan for retirement while saving for the things you want to do today. -whoo! we didn t address it, mr. president. because you are afraid of the nra. well, fast forward to today, here is what the president said at the nra convention in dallas. democrats and liberals in congress want to disarm law abiding americans at the same time they are releasing dangerous criminal aliens and savage gang members on to our streets. your second amendment rights are under siege, but they will never ever be under siege as long as i m your president. no mention of those changes he had once called for after the shooting. here is what he said about parkland. we re working to improve early warning systems so that when the police are called, when the community sees the red flags, which they saw in parkland all over the place, there has never been a case where more red flags have been shown, swift action is taken by the authorities. i recently signed legislation that includes more than $2 billion to improve school safety, including the funding for training and metal detectors and security and mental health, mental health is a big one. they don t like to talk about mental health. mental health, that was the number one example in parkland. joining me now stoneman douglas high school students david hogg and cameron caskey. we heard from the president shortly after the shooting at the high school, obviously he struck a very different tone than he did today. back then i talked to you you thought he was heading in the right direction when it came to gun control. what do you think today? well, you know, he was saying some things that implied that he was stepping forward into the right direction for gun safety in this country and then he had a meeting with some nra officials, a private meeting, and afterwards he came and claimed that the second amendment was under siege and he was going to defend it. so as to whether or not the nra meeting changed his views, that s kind of up to speculation, but i will tell you that is hopefully the first russian-funded group he has met with. and i would like to say i think it really shows what he s doing right now proves where his heart and wallet are and that s in the exact same place. one of the interesting things i thought trump brought it how we don t talk about mental health i didn t tell in one of the recent spending bills they had they cut mental health spending for schools by over $25 million that doesn t sound like improving the mental health system for schools to me. cameron, when the president was in that meeting with democrats and republicans he castigated the republicans saying you re scared of the nra. do you believe today he showed that he is scared of the nra? i think he is very interested in the money that the nra will bring him and that the nra in turn gets from gun manufacturers. you know, the gun the nra used to boast itself as being an average joe coalition of americans who are trying to protect their second amendment rights and now you will see that they are getting a lot of kickbacks from gun manufacturers. so i don t necessarily think trump is scared of the nra, i think trump is very i think people in the situation that would be scared would be the nra. theories this is the first time they had the and vice president come out to the annual convention for the nra. what they are seeing is they are worried because the support we ve been getting and the support we ll have in mid-terms. like it or not we don t care if you are exact or republican if you are sported with the nra, you don t stand with kids you stand with the gun manufacturers and people making money off this fear and tragedy that per pet 80s itself. david that s where your focus is now. there was a lot of concern i think among supporters of gun safety, gun control, and people who are at the march that after the march that sort of interest would wane. for yoekz is on mid-terms. is that right? exactly. and right now what we are trying to do we have the ambitious goal of getting 90% of high schoolers registered to vote by june. i think it s something we can do. there is over 26,000 high schools across perk. we need every one of them to sign up through head count to create their own voter registration vote to ensure kids get out and vote regardless of opinions. i think one thing we can support on both sides of the ace sell voter participation. right now 18% of 18 to 24-year-olds participate in mid-terms and that s unacceptable. the thing is this is just simply about doing your civic duty and voting. and we can get a lot of people registered to vote. but they don t show up at polls when they need to. another thing we are focusing on is making it accessible and easier and making sure people are educated with the vote. and they use the resources we easily access to know who they re voting for, following everything the candidate is doing and have an educated and effective vote. well, cameron kasky david hogg, i appreciate your time ton. thanks for being with us. thank you very much. we have more breaking news, a disaster on the hawaii big island, a volcano spews lof, toxic gas, the latest from hawaii when we continue. 6,000 feet above sea level. but how do you really know that the beans journeyed to the port of mombasa and across the pacific? that you can trust they re 100% authentic? ibm blockchain. a smart way to track every step, ensuring this coffee did indeed come from 6,000 feet above sea level. and not a foot lower. volcano. video from earlier this week shows walls of moek and the vent collapses. leaving behind a red rocky surface similar to mars with gaping holes giving a glimpse of the orange liquid magma smoldering below. the time laps shot last week shows the gushing river of lava flowing as night turns to day. residents flee homes as forests burn and roads break open. can you feel the heat from the ground. yeah, there s heat come up out of this. officials warn the sulfur die ox i d levels are dangerous. they have closed large sections of the hawaii volcano national park. more than 700 structures and 1,700 people are within the mandatory evacuation area. now we have about 100 people up at the facility at the shelters. we just quiet another wave of them that got evacuate the because of the volcano and erupting more on the street. lava is coming out in lelani this is real. he at the center are these estates. a resident captured this lava fountain shooting a hundred feet in the air. all we heard down the road was boom. what is that? all of a sudden we smell we smelled the sulfur. we knew something was happening. within minutes we seen smoke. and now we see all this lava coming across the street. and it s pumping right now. this fissure is opening up. and this is the next eruption. the eruptions are part of a massive geological event set off by the collapse of the crater floor. that led to hundreds of earthquakes jolting the big island. the tough part about this eruption is it s unpredictable. we don t know which the lava is going to flow. we are planning actively for every contingency we can think of. reporter: and that s an important point there anderson. officials are saying even the most experienced people who study these volcanoes cannot know where the next fissure may rurp and they are dealing with a fourth that opened in the last couple of hours here. and because of that last 6.9 earthquake some 14,000 people lost their power. they re working to get it back on in those places but at the same time they have to watch out for air quality and also the earthquakes and of course if any more fissures open up. incredible to see that stephanie thanks. up next the update on the breaking news tide to the wall street reporting that president trump s attorney michael cohen was stock piling money as he sought to fix problems for his boss during the 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meet the woman who started it all. lucas is the first baby with down syndrome to represent gerber. this picture courtesy of cook s we agree. saying that s really . i m heading to the white house where see you later this afternoon. appreciate you joining us for this packed hour. tuing it over to ali velshi and s ruhle. who doesn t love a gerber baby? love that baby lucas. sweet pea. morning, everyone. i m ali velshi. i m stephanie ruhle. it s wednesday, june 6th. mexico firing the latest shot in the escalating trade war between the united states and the allies. how is this goingo play when the president sits down with the leaders of those countries on friday? how many people are in on forming this tariff policy and who is in charge? that s a great question. in fact, what you see right now is a big split inside the guns. we begin with the latest escalating trade war between the united states and the top trading partners including some of the closest allies and this one comes from mexico. the mexican president signed an order immediately imposing 15 to 25% tariffs on u.s. steel. also a 25% tariff on u.s. cheese and bourbon. plus a 20% tariff on american agricultural productncluding po potatoes, apples and cranberries. u.s. pork farmers alone could use $100 million a year. that s according to an estimate by the iowa farm bureau. this is after the trump administration eliminated tariff exemptions for our partners, mexico, canada, and the european unn. it also imposed a 25 % tariff on steel imports and 10% tariff on aluminum imports effective june 1st. with all this, the world bank has issued a warning that the escalating trade tensions between the united states and the major trading allies could have, quote, severe consequences for the trade and growth that would be equivalent to the 2008 financial crisis. nbc s von joins us from des moines, iowa where the u.s. pork industry is holding the annual expo right now. stephanie and alley, reminder. 10% of iowa pork alone goes to mexico. so we are he in des moines and the president is at the summit. this is the world s pork expo not only from around the country but 40 countries from around the world. there are individuals here. i want to bring in christy. she s a family farmer. you have 460 employees you re about two hours north of here and have a full operation. about 10,000 people here over the course of the weekend coming through. and you not only grill up the food but you also produce it and go through it. what do we see here? today we have whole pig and brats. pork loin and our baby bac ribs. family is involved? family is involved in the business. i am a fourth generation partf pork agriculture. my daughters are business. myfather, my sister, brother-in-law, and my husband. so we are not just a pork production family. we also employ a lot of other people s families. reporter: almost 500. that s correct. reporter: and stephanie and allie, there s a lot of people who are associated with the business as well. pork is foundational to the iowa economy. when you see the trade negotiations underway, the tariff that s put, what s your concern? well, the one thing is that if it s for the long term, that could be devastating for the industry, but wenow a lot of things because pork is a very flexible agriculture, some of these things are short-term. we feel like we re pawns in the chess game of the trade wars, but r the short time the american producers can have cheaper bacon and ribs for the summer. so in the 80s when ery wanted leaner pork, and all the pork fattier and bacony, we had to change the genetics. we had to make that fit the consumer s desires. so right now a lot of people are going for all naturalpork, antibiotic free, organic pork. we ve seen that on the american side as well where our con have become a more refined palate. how e ist f y adjust? it s not easy, but pork producers work hard, so they ll find a way to make it happen. a lot of people have been doing this for so many years. this is just one more bump in the world in the world market. that s great. that s about as an american response as you get. they re facing uncertainty. they re worried about it and coming up with innovation. that s remarkable. john, i shou tr you before, but when i saw von and the smokers behind him, i was dazed in a bacon bo nonza. sorry about that. made me hungry too. the eu announced it s going to be imposing retaliatory tariffs on u.s. steel and aluminum. canada also imposing tariffs starting july 1st can tariffs. that includes a 25 % tariff on steel and 10% tariffs on aluminum. you have yogurt, jam, whiskey. walk us through how this is going to play out. the fact we re hearing this could take us back tth 2008 nanciacrisis level. how bad can this get? well, i d be surprised if it got to that level, because it usually when president trump meets formidable resistance, he backs off. so it is possible that given all the alarms that are being sounded by republican members of congress from agricultural states, for the business round table yesterday, national association of business economists yesterday downgraded in their survey, their forecast for growth in 2018 from the previous survey, this trade overhang is bad for the economy. republicans need a good economy to succeed in midterm election one possibility is president trump in the face of all this makes a lot of noise, rattles a lot of kangs and steps back. but if he doesn t do that, we re rheaded for trouble with allies at a time when we re not even addressing in the trade discussions that we re talking about right now, are the indications that we have. we re not even addressing the big threat from china over theft of intellectual property. we re fighting our allies at a time when we need them to confront china. there are people with legitimate concerns about the trade deals and how they ve affected theirndustrieand jobs. and even president trump has campaigned saying he s going to do something and he s going out to do something about it. it is not business as usual he goes to the g summit in canada on friday where he s meeting with leaders of canada and the eu nations. at what point does this sort of bring a summit like this to a halt because everyone is angry at the u.s. or do they have business to continue to do while acknowledging the complaint on behalf of many american workers thew trade arrangements? there s some business they can do. there s a lot of routine business that goes on between finance and trade ministries of these various countries. but the united states, make no mistake, is becoming isolated. it is being condemned by its allies for the actions that king. and one of the things we ve learned about the world over the last couple of decades is that you need allies to get something done. the world is too globally connected. you can t america can t be the world s policeman, but it can t vindicate it s own interests by itself. so that s a difficult situation. the present is now talking about trying to break up nafta into separate categories with mexico and canada. that is going to be a nonstarter. ultimately, i think he s going to be faced with a decision of either pulling out of the existing nafta or getting nothing done at all. it is worth noting, though, that in those various industrialized countries that comprise the g7 or g-20, there are constitntil ns. almost everybody in the world thinks they got an unfair trade deal from someone else. i m sure there are canadians and we know there are britons because that s why they voted for brexit who feel we don t have trade deals with everybody else. that s why you have big multilateral trade deals. everybody has skin in the game. er has got to make compromises. so can a mexico were part of the transpacific partnership which renegotiated nafta. the president backed out, again, isolatinited stes on the world stage. thank you, john, and thank you to von in iowa. president trump reportedly obsessed with his ability to grant pardons, and we can see another one come any time now whether he s obsessed or not. that could be a woman who is happy he s obsessed. one of them would be that great grandmoer whom reality star kim kardashian is fighting for. we ll speak to her daughter coming up. george woke up in pain. i missed that. both of my parents haved away. i was not able to be by either of their sides and their f days. that s an ache i had that never goes away. alice s daughter joins us w. we have confirmed from inside the white house that the pahas been prepared on yourmom. the president has not signed it, but it s ready for his signature. has the white house reached out to you, and how do you feel about all of this? no, the white house hasn t reached o me. s surreal. i m just finding out now on live tv that the paperwork has been prepared. i mean, this is something that my family and i, we pray for for years. it s just it s just surreal. it s amazing. wow. did you think this would happen? last week it was obviously major for you and your family when kim kardashian west went to see the president. the next day the president didn t make an announcement. did you start to lose hope? no-ev let myself lose hope, because that s worse than anything. i don t think i could take not having anyhope. tentive, it s a reserved hope. we ve been through so many ups and dnsouout the years with different appeals and things. so it was we re hopeful, but it s a reserved hope. you know? until she walks out that door of th prison. she said what she said and that she was part of a drug conspiracy. she admits to what she did. you started a petition that you write since being incarcerated she s been a model prisoner who mentors women. tell us abo w she is. she s become an ordained minister. that s a long sentence for a nonviolent drug offense. for americans saying why are we committing people with nonviolent offenses, why are we doing this? she has tried the best she cano make a negative situation into a positive situation, as much as it can be. she really dedicated herself into helping owomen, and if she s plans on working with women who are incarcerated to help prevent recidivism. i think she d do a lot more good outside of that prison than she is even inside a prison, even though she s doing a lot of good in there. she s just taking the bull by the horns and is really trying to be a positive person as she can be. i mean, she made mistakes, but she s human, and she s worthy of being pardoned. she s worthy of a second chance. how did kim kardashian west get involved in your campaign, and after she met with the president, did s with you what he told her about your mom s case? yes. she got involved with the case. she saw the mike video and decided to reach out to my mom through her attorney. but the family, we didn t know who it was at first. shawn just told us i a female celebrity, a wealthy female celebrity who wanto advocate for he i had no idea. no idea it was kim be oprah. kardashian. when we found out, it was definitely a pleasant surprise. she has really been an advocate for my mom in a major way. she s really done a lot, and where she could have saw the video and said that s a shame and gone on with her life i wasn t privy of the meeting. wasn t there. all i heard was it was a po meeting, but i don t know exactly what was discussed. the exact language. we ll keep an eye on the story closely. we hope for the best for you and your family and mother. thank you so much. i m thanks. good luck to you. she has twins at home that haven t met her mom that will be amazing if they can. yes. also today rod blagojevich asked the president to commute the remainder of his 14 -year sentence. he was convicted on 2011 on multiple felony corruption charges. there s something else you prably didn t know about the privacy of your facebook acunt. i know nothing about that. all i know is i know nothing and everybody has amy informaon. enharing er infor wleast four chinese companies, including one flagged by u.s. intelligence as a security company. wasn t zuckerberg testifying before congress on this? did this come out? this is strange. first a new potential conflict for scoot pruitt. he s now accused of using a government aide to help score his wife a chick-fil-a franchise. pruitt never spoke to the ceo of than told the washington post mrs. pruitt didn t complete the frchise application. this is a weird story. this is the definition of swamp. no kidding. we ll be right back. welcome to holiday inn! thank you! wait, i have something for you! every stay is a special stay at holiday inn. save up to 15% when you book early at hollidayinn.com save up to 15% when you book early whent onbones, e you on theight path? we have postmenopausal osteoporosis and a high risk for fracture, so with our doctors we chose prolia® to help make our bones stronger. only prolia® helps strengthen bones by stopping cells that damage them with 1 shot every 6 months. do not take prolia® if you have low blood calcium, are pregnant, are allergic to it, or take xgeva®. serious allergic reactions, like low blood pressure; trouble breathing; throat tightness; face, lip or tongue swelling, rash, itching orivavhappened. tell your doctor about dental problems, as severe jaw bone problems may happen or new or unusual pain in your hip, groin, or thigh, as unusual thigh bone fractures have occurred. speak to your doctor before stopping prolia®, as spine and other bone fractures have occurred. prolia® can cause serious side effects, like low blood calcium; serious infections, which could need hospitalization; skin problems; and severe bone, joint, or muscle pain. if your bones aren t getting stronger isn t it time for a new prolia.ection?y wait? 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it matters in two if your d is going to the phone, it means your data could connect with other apps on the phone. th problem i why spreading the data through millions ofes around the world, through these partnerships and not through their own app, it puts your data at risk and creates vulnerability. this is not the app on your phone that says facebook. this is a streamf data from facebook central that goes to device makers and devices around the world. ook users ohese serve people devices. but it also putss data beyond the control of facebook. all right. facebook is banned in china. so this sort of begs the question why are chinese companies being given access to facebook data? and what do the want it for? we lo the main purpose of these partnerships on t surface, ali, is tha people using thes phone and the re eager to get access to their facebook information. if nicko see his facebook account on the phone, and the phone can t support it for whatever reason, the phone can my information from my account, but also the information of all my friends and some of their frie so you quickly get up to huge amounts of information flowing onto these phones. and the question for the company is if the phones for these are getting thedata, are s actors in china getting the information? okay. walk me through this. atme if any, could facebook face for doing this? again, they have very little regulation. aside from potential lawsuits in the u.s., there s a possibility of severe problems in europe where the rules are tighter. even here in the u.s., as y nodd into a consent decree that said you can t share the information of the ers friends without asking the friends first. you got to stop doing that. and facebook has said , look, when you agree to share information with your friend on to share it with that friend on andevice they use. and that s where experts we spoke to said t not what the ftc was expecting and it defies what consumers were expecting. the ftc would fine them as well. i have to go back over the testimony from mark zuckerberg at congress as to whether he was asked any of these specific questions and didn t give the proper answer, because once again, i sort of thought that once mark zuckerberg testified at facebook, we d be done with the new revelatio bad things that facebook has th your data, but it doesn t end. it s kind of fascinating. it s like ok has found people to give our data to who i didn t know were looking for it. and they haven t owned up to it. it s shocking they didn t describe it in the testimony. zuckerberg said you control all your information and you control it and have privacy. and never mentioned these partnerships. but part of the reason is that facebook s whole idea here is that these partnerships are actually part of facebook. so they re slight of hand in my opinion is to say tha it s not important, and these aren t outside companies if facebook information is going to a phone sker is part of facebook. and so from facebook s perspective, there wasn t any breach. what is facebook saying? give us the goods on when you go back and forth with facebook pr on this, and this clearly at best is slight of hand tactics. what are they really saying to you? what facebook is saying is our entire frame for this is wrong. what they re saying is look, there s no problem here. it s no big deal. so these companies, apple, samsung, blackberry, if they re carrying this data to users who want to use facebook, it s a part of facebook. it s all facebook. there s no third party involved and no breach of the ftc consent decree, but if you look under the hood, stephanie, if you look at how it actually works, facebook s own system, its platform, treats these phones like apps, and apps are third parties. it s actually a problem between how they describe it publicly and how it works. nick, good to talk to you as always. what a story. the chinese telecom giant zte is being rescued by the united stat why? well, what happened to the concerns about zte and our national security? we ll discuss that on the other side. why? 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they seem to have a deal in principle. whether anything has been signed is the question. in terms of the penalty that thay, that includes additial purases wou make of u.s. goods, and we want the united states wants contracts signed. not just promises. that s the context around th isn t j a deal with the commerce departmtnd zte. this has larger implications about trade between china and the united es. this is really important. at its face, you could say this is absurd. the united states government, the commerce department were going after zte. if the united states wants china to play ball on trade, do they need to do something to appease the zte situation? it looks le they do. they announced a lot of changes as they try to bring the economy into a more integrated trading system. this is caught up between t united states and china. and next week is the singapore summit. they need the chinese help with north korea. that s playing in to try to reach a deal to get the chinese to help with the issues. this is what regular folk think is swampy, the deals made. we ve made it clear zte did things that are regarded as bad and gone. chinese asked the united states to do this. what the chinese offer in return? what is america getting for doing this? it s the american worker, supposededly, we re doing this for. that s the real question. the chinese be ordering more american made goods because they need more. their economy is expanding. the question is what do they do in addition to that to get the deal done? we have reported that they re going to buy another $25 billion worth of oil and coal and some agricultural products. that s not very much. it s nowhere near the 200 billion donald trump says he wants. the question is is it enough and will they follow through? they announced earlier $70 billion in additional purchases and there were no contracts signed? so china agreed to i m saying, if we say zte is back in business. we re imposing smaller fines. change your board, we re putting that in motion. what china as promised thus far, you re saying they haven t signed contracts and haven t done? they are buying things, but the direct connection isn t there, and there s no signed deal that says in exchange for this, we will do this. they are just separately saying by theway, we re to buyeoil. donald trump is on saysed is so obsessed with the trade deficit. china is promising to reduce it a little. last year they came to the united states and agreed to buy more liquid natural gas. they need it, and now the trump administration is including that in the chinese is buying more because of the pressure, but that deal was already agreed to. michael, thank you for joining us. all right. a historic moment on the job hunt. for the first time ever, there are more job in the united states than people out of work. how that can actually hurt the economy and take money out of your wallet. i just want to know how people can get higher wages. can you actually love wearing powerful sunscreen? 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what does it pay? we don t just need people to survive. we need them to thrive. mla we re moving into this part of the conversation. me too. after the mass shooling at parkland high school, the government set up a commission on school safety. education secretary betsy devos says it is not examining the role guns play in school violence. huh? that is like trying to prevent a heart attack while your cholesterol level is at 300. and, in fact, it s like trying to prevent a heart attack and never checking your cholesterol. we ll talk about that when we come back. that s what s happening here. the federal commission on school safety will not study the impact on guns on school safety. the commission was formed after the parkland shooting where 17 people were killed. here is what betsy devos told a senate committee. the role of firearms it relates to firearms in our school. that s not part of the charge per se. you re studying gun violence but not considering the role of guns. we re studying school safety and how to ensure our students are safe as well. wow. in case there s any question about whether guns play a role in school violence, let s take a quick look at number. this year there s been 17 school shootings. that s the highestumber during any year in recent history. more students have bee killed at school this year than those killed while deployed in the united states military according to the washington post. just look at last month. in four separate school shootings in may, ten students were killed. 16 others injured. if you look back, nearly 20 years since columbine in 1999, 141 students and educators were killed in their classroo another 287 have been injured. beyond the dead and wounded, what about the kids forced to witness their classmates being murdered o cower behind a locked door or behind a desk to avoid gunfire. more than 215,000 students have experienced gun violence at their school since columbine. these fro yearlong investigation by the washington post. the federal government does not track school shootings. why not? let s bring in the president of american fed ration of teachers. the second largest teacher s unn in country. do your teachers have a role in this examination. we can t figure out why if the federal government is looking into school safety, there s more people getting killed byuns in scol g by anything else in school. why is this not the top of the list, yet alone not on the list? nothing any longer surprises me about what betsy devos does. it s just it s more than ridiculous. it says to people in america that the federal government doesn t work because it is the height of hypocrisy to pretend you re doing something but then actually not do it. stephanie just said the statistics that i would have said but let s put it this way. other countries have figured this out and betsy devos is not only not letting guns be an issue in commission that was set up after the murder of children in schools by guns but she s also not going t the hearing today where you have people like abby clemons who survived the 2012 sandy hook shooting testifying. i would say to betsy is this, maybe she read the new york times today, at least she ll get some indication of what happened, the terror that happened in parkland. if you re so intent ongoing out of town and out of the cnt today to study what switzerland is doing in terms of career tech ed, why don t you study what australia and great britain are doing in terms of gun safety in schools. it s just hypocrite cal and frankly the problem is given this administration, the only thing we can do is actually not have this administration. they don t want to solve it. i understand that s your position but this is our current administration. we ve got work with who the president is. i know you wrote a letter to president trump back in february. he never him to meet with you to discuss school safety. what happened? never answered. there are issues, mental health issues wrap around services ng that we deal the issues. the red flag laws where if law enforcement or families or what governor cuomo extendt to teachers feel like a child is a clear and present danger and could be, this goes to it. there are other things question do. the problem is this. it s this is increasing right now. kids in santa believe it s a matter of when, not whether. we ll have to work with governors. we ll have to work with legislatures. we will keep trying to get them to listen but if they don t show up at their ownhearings, the only thing one can do is kind of to shame them and to make what they are doing or not doing transparent. it was definitely shocking a hear a student say we expected it. this was just matter of when. good to talk to you as always. you re welcome. thank you for watching this hour of velshi & ruhle.ruhle. i ll see you tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. i ll see you tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. time for our friend andrea mitchell. right now, missing melania. the president attacks the media. the media reports questioning the first lady s 26th day public
Commentary, newsmaker interviews and panel discussions. james clapper, brennan was talking about it before. copper allegedly leaked it to cnn, fake news. let s not forget the major world of only dossier played with the fisa warrant application against trump. the trump campaign associate carter page, during and after the campaign, forgo separate warrants, the bulk of information coming from the phony russian dossier that hillary paid for. where s the investigation into this collusion? mr. mueller, where are you? the clinton campaign paid a c former spy and used russian lies to lie to the american people, steal an election, get a warrant to spy on americans, using an unverified, uncorroborated hillary clinton bought and paid for political document, nobody sells the fisa court judges ever, and the original obligations, subsequent applications, and disseminated what was false, untrue, propaganda, disinformation to rig an election, a presidential election!n given the rampant bias from team mueller. trump-russia collusion is a total hoax. still money on the left, in your media, are rolling out recent actions of one-time trump attorney michael cohen as some kind m of smoking gun against president trump. even michael cohen himself, if they would do their jobs, they are lazy and overpaid, has beena denying the accusations of collusion. he did it in testimony on capitol hill in 2017. he said, given my proximity to the president of united states and the candidate, lets me say that i never saw anything coming ahead of anything, that demonstrated his involvement in russian interference or election or any form russian collusion. let me say it again. it s time for the witch hunt to end. we are now more than 14 months into this politically motivated fishing expedition, all designed to malign the president that you come of the american people, voted for. if the deep state, your corrupt media, all these elites, had their way, well, he never would have been president. that is why they rig the investigation into hillary to save her. now donald trump is theio leader of the free world, his decisions impact the lives of literally billions of people every day, and this collusion, lies, distraction, is hurting the country, and frankly, broad, asserting us as well. he needs to stop. meanwhile, breaking tonight, former deepp state trump hater, fired fbi director, jimmy comey, he may be headed back to capitol hill. house republicans are reportedly pushing to interview comey over his decision-making during the 2016 election. remember, he was one of the officials to sign off on the fisa warrant against the trump campaign associates. despite admitting the dossier, he said, wasn t salacious and unverified. but then he had already signed off on it. we also have breaking news on the immigration french tonight. over the weekend, the president tweeted this. i d be willing to shut down the government if it get democrats do not give us the votes for border security, which includes the wall. must get rid of lottery, catch and release, and finally, go to a system of immigration that is merit-based. we need great people coming into our country. today, the president doubled down on that tweet. watch this. my administration is working hard to pass border security legislation. improved vetting, and establish a merit-based immigration system, which the united states needs very, very importantly, very badly. as the border is concerned, and personally, if we don t get border security, after many, many years of talk within the united states, i would have no problem doing a shut down. it s time we had proper border security. sean: secure the borders. as the president continues to push seriously for a wall to protect our country, and a common sense merit-based immigration system, well, your friends in the democratic party, their friends in the media, they are playing political games with americans a strong economy. last week, great economic news. gdp grows at a whopping 4.1% rate.% despite the great news, our robust, healthy economy, we now have the largest labor participation rate ever. millions fewer on food stamps. oh, 4 million new jobs. isn t that great? the media is spinning that is bad news. only the media. take a look. here s the thing. with thehe economy booming liket is now, at least in gdp terms, low unemployment rates among minorities, he is still in the low 40s. where is he going to be when we have a recession in two years? there was an urgency in the president s voice that bordered on almost pulling a muscle, trying to pat yourself on the back. there is a sense of where you overhyped something, and there were so many times ml s remarks that are felt overhyped and how he was talking about the economy. we accomplished an economic turnaround of historic proportions.ic [laughter] can replay that again? anybody that goes on the google machine can see that the economy went up and it s been steady, slow, gradual economic increase. sean: the vapors every morning. 6:00 to 9:00. can t help it. as we march toward the most important innt terms of our lif, buckle up, get ready, the rhetoric coming from the media, democrats, their friends on the left, it is going to get more insane, more negative, more ridiculous. i m telling you, you better get ready. everybody s going to be smeared. buckle up. guess what? the future of your country is at stake by the democrats would back in november, this is their agenda, take a close look. right there. they want their crumbs back. they want to rescind the tax cuts. they want to say it. they tell everyone to be quiet but they want to break the president. they love their obamacare. keep your doctor, keep your plan. i bet a lot of youu are paying o much less, right? they want to block judge kavanaugh and of course they want to handle legitimate, important investigations to the deep state and, yeah, they want open borders. we know they want open borders. they want to eliminate i.c.e. in 99 days, you, the people, will decide if the trump agenda stops. do you want that to happen? what did you vote for in 2016? there s a lot on the line here, there is no positive agenda. joining us now, the author of the hit new book, it has been number one for over a week. the russia hoax, the illicit scheme to clear hillary clinton and frame donald trump. fox news legal analyst gregg jarrett. the author of another huge best-selling book, the case against appeasing trump, harvard professor who is not rey loved where he is on some island, i don t want to mention where because everyone is attacking him, alan dershowitz. and criminal civil rights attorney david schoen is with us. let s start with the so-called trump tower meeting. compare it to adam schiff, and he thinks he s talking to a russian about nake pictures of trump. he s excited about it. russian collusion. is not collusion to have either of those conversations, the trump tower meeting or adam schiff. it s not a violation of the federal campaign election act, because foreign nationals are allowed to volunteerer informatn in an american campaign. some have said, oh, it s a conspiracy to defraud the government. no, it se not. that requires dishonesty, deceit, trickery, and craft. no application here. some have said, he is a law professor, well, it could be honest services fraud. no, that requires, according to this rheem cord, a bribe our kickback. again, collusion is not even a crime. show me in the criminal code for this exists. i have an entire chapter in the book entitled, it s not a crimt to talk to a russian. hillary clinton s campaign and democrats actually talked to more russians than the contact with the trump campaign. sean: they paid for russian lies. professor dershowitz, i know you took great offense on conspiracy tv msnbc.re why do you punish yourself like that? i have no idea. nobody s really watching. but the important question is, you have said this, you are not the biggest donald trump supporter politically. but to you, this is important, because it s about civil liberties, our constitution. i don t think professor dershowitz like such fisa judges were purposefully lied to, and that they gave them false information to obtain a warrant and an american citizen and tried to impact an election. these things i think he finds disconcerting. more than disconcerting, i find them on constitutional. when members of the justice department seek a warrant and deliberately withhold the two most crucial pieces of information, namely, that the dossier was paid for by people trying to defeat donald trump for president, and withholding the fact that the credibility of the witness, who was providing the information, may turn on the fact that he claims he is evidence that donald trump engaged in these kind of salacious things with the bed and urine, if they had called back to the fisa court, the fisa court would have discounted the credibility of a witness. a witness who can come up with that kind of nonsense is not the kind of witness who would justify granting a warrant to survey all americans. sean: what about rod rosenstein and comey? are they supposed to verify it? are they supposed to make sure that judges are fully informed and they knew that hillary paid for that? if they knew that, and they saw the actual application, then theyon committed a serious violation. they should be askedio why those two pieces of information in particular were willfully andma deliberately withheld from the fisa court. the other side says maybe they would have granted it anyway. we know fisa court s grant winds really easy. there should be a revision of the way fisa courts operate, there should be a devil s advocate who is arguing against the granting of the application. these two pieces of information, i want to hear from rosenstein and others, why did they justify withholding those two pieces of information, if they knew this and they knew the fisa court would want to know that? sean: 19 pages unredacted, david schoen, of the last warrant that rod rosenstein signed off on, because i hear that it is devastating to him and to others. let the american people see all of it. that s a key point. respectfully, professor dershowitz, he s right on track but there s not a question about what rod rosenstein i knew. we know that he signed off on at least the last renewal. the rules of the fisa court expressly provide that if there is any any error, doesn t even have to be material error, error that must be corrected, the court must be notified immediately in writing. if there was any error or omission. specifically in the rules, from any prior application. sean: i have three get, great lawyers on the show tonight. if i lie to a judge, purposely misleded a court, let s say i deleted subpoenaed emails, i asked and watch my hard drive with wage but and i busted out my device, do you think you could get me out of jail? [laughs] sean: professor dershowitz, you are laughing. i i could get you out of jai. sean: the only way you will get me out of his cake and a file? obstruction of justice. i think i could demonstrate to you that neither mueller s case against trump, nor your case against hillary clinton amounted to an obstruction of justice. sean: wait a minute. they subpoena sean hannity, and i delete 33,000 emails. then i use bleach bit, gregg, then a bust of the devices. laissez i go to robert mueller. he recently asked for every witness to hand over their blackberries and iphones. i said, if i ever advised people, bad. and i did what hillary did, and here s the busted up devices what i be arrested? you what. sean: would you get me out? no. i would leave you there. [laughter] i would get you out. comey admitted in his testimony, nobody pays attention to this, comey admitted that hillary clinton gave classified documents to people without security clearance. that alone should have been a crime. not to mention theho fact that - these people did the exact same thing on the smaller scale for hillary clinton and they were prosecuted. sean: how many people do you write do you identify? six. sean: david schoen, last word. there are many reasons mr. comey has to be brought before congress, not on a backdoor hearing. public testimony. he may think he will get his singers in, got to be examined about the many things in the ig report about his legs that are still under investigation, by the ig, theon fundamental problem here is that there is no integrity in the pr. for mr. mueller s team throughout the process. that is what is fundamentally most effective. sean: professor dershowitz, thank you. the only one who said you could get me out. thank you. i could get you out, i just don t want to get you out. sean: i hope you that is really horrible. i m only kidding. sean: big interview with the president s attorney, rudy giuliani. i loveen your book. i m kidding. it was a joke. straight ahead. plus $100 in extras including postage and a digital scale go to stamps.com/now and never go to the post office again. it gives you super fast speeds for all your devices, provides the most wifi coverage for your home, and lets you control your network with the xfi app. it s the ultimate wifi experience. xfinity xfi, simple, easy, awesome. sean: joining us now, america s mayor ands president trump s attorney, rudy giuliani. good to see you. i really hate that you have the ring. that is a yankees championship world series ring. why do you hate it? sean: i wanted. you werepi into the mayor of new york city when they won. i got four. sean: i was there for the last one i paid for it. [laughter] sean:n: remember when he got in trouble for being at that particular game, the last game combo and the yankees won the world series? i was at that game. i bought my tickets on stubhub. you got them for free. he said the only politician politician sean: long story. let s stay in business. there is no i had a long talk with john dowd today. i believe, talking to the people that were involved in the investigation, i thanked john for all the cooperation he gave, put us in a position where we don t have to cooperate. we gave them 1.4 million documents. 32 witnesses. president trump has answered every question. and now they are looking at his. tweets. sean: trying to influence i prosecute obstruction ofon justice. obstruction of justice by tweets to them. checked impeach a president? god bless us. sean: you said maybe you would let him answer a fuel limited questions. i don t want to give them a false impression. given the last revelations, we ve been we don t think they have a legitimate investigation. sean: do you think they are going to subpoena you? will there be a constitutional right? then there s a constitutional fight. i think we won. one of the main ingredients sean: i was here when you were mayor. you are not shy when it comes to fights. we [bleep] on my clinton and the supreme court, i won my own case, and have one of the bus supreme court lawyers, youe knw him, jay sekulow. 39 cases in the supreme court. sean: he s won 90% of them. that is to say we got the better part of thehe argument. we have presidential privilege, can t be subpoenaed, you have the fact that even if he can be subpoenaed, you have to show particularized need and of john dowd s memo of four months ago show, they have no particularized need. they have everything. let s take an example. mr. president, why did you fire comey? a is already expended over and over again. you either believe it or not, buton don t think we are sucker. you believe a liar like comey. or one of the other lawyers they are very good friends. sean: robert mueller waser denied the day before he got a special counsel job. comey is more discredited than anyone in this investigation. he cannot be believed. so if you are telling me you will believe comey s word against the president, than i know you are trying to trap him into perjury. sean: do you think what happens for example, what happens if mueller decides he wants to take this all the way and subpoenaed the president of the united states? we go to the supreme court and we find out if he can. never been decided. the only subpoena to the president that has happened is to bill clinton. it was withdrawn. it s never been decided. we ll have a case, we will find out. thenen we have cases of lesser officials that were subpoenaed. documents of a subpoena. you always have to show particularized need. if you have to show particularized need for a commerce secretary, labor secretary, you sure as heck have to show up for a president. tell me they particularized need to. they will lose on that. they will say, we want to hear what he said about flynn. well, he said about one, i never had that conversation. so why are you calling the grand jury to that? because he want to wrap them with a perjury charge when you couldn t bring a regular charge against him. sean:gu the president martha stewart. sean: martha stewart didn t do anything. they didn t get her on any crimes. this is martha stewart. who did martha stewart? jim comey. sean: scary. it s scary. if you can get them on the crime, they will get them on something else. it doesn t matter how serious the crime is. sean: let s go to mueller let s get a celebrity tweet. sean: what about that she worked there. i have no objections to them. sean: why are they bringing in the cfo of the trump organization? a thousand reasons. i have been through, and our lawyers have been through, including our washington or new york lawyers, we have been through every one of the documents they have given us, every document relating to president trump. he is whistle clean and that investigation. that is why we quickly weaved the privilege. the minute comey leaked that first conversation between cohen and the president where he secretly recorded the president and lied to him and pretty much threw himself out of the bar, i mean, the legall bar, we put it out. then he said putting out stuff about the cuomo tape, where he went through this horrible stuff, hiding his tape recorder sean: will these be made public, all of them? eventually. sean: what about they alld should be made public tonight. sean: what about the brennan? andrew weissmann, who was excoriated for withholding having been a longtime prosecutor in the justice department, andrew weissman would be regarded by many defense lawyers and prosecutors as disgraced he said cases were reversed he s been excoriated it might sound like a strange thing but he is withheld exculpatory evidence. you know what that mean? s got evidence that i am evidence that i am innocent ande keeps it. he sends me to jail. sean: four merrill executives went to jail for a year. a nightmare. when i first we have a lot of guilty people to prosecute. you don t prosecute an innocent one. when it s close to the line sean:d give them a benefit of the doubt. my friend sylvia used to say, you know something, if you let theme, go, can t be a problem, they ll be back again. [laughter] sean: probably true. how does jeanie ray work for the clinton foundation? hearted the guy who gave 36 w did the guy who was crying at hillary s because he s i will give him the benefit of the doubt. he is so arrogant he doesn t care about appearances. all of us have to you realiz realize, what the new york times would have done, if i had been made a special prosecutor for hillary clinton? and i hired ken starr? [laughter] sean: mr. mayor, good to see it. i really do like the ring. i m glad that you had to pay for it, though. [laughs] sean: president trump fed up with the illegal immigration crisis at the southern border. we have drastic actions. michelle malkin weighs in on that. a key issue in 99 days. straight ahead. be -and we welcome back gary, -you don t have to buzz in. it s not a question, gary. on march 1, 1810 [ ding ] -frédéric chopin. -collapsing in 226 [ ding ] -the colossus of rhodes. -[ sighs ] louise dustmann [ ding ] -brahms lullaby, or wiegenlied. -when will it end? [ ding ] -not today, ron. we have to change our laws. weng do that through congress. i would certainly be willing to close it down. get it done. sean: that was the president early today reiterating his comments are more over the weekend, and that is today the doj announced a jordanian national residing in monterrey, monterrey, mexico, arrested saturday on arrival at jfk international airport to face criminal complaint issued in the western district of texas for his role in a scheme to smuggle specialbe interest aliens from mexico into the u.s.. the doj goes on to explain that heren jordanian national conspid to smuggle six yemeni nationals across the southern border in e. i want to correct something in the last segment with the mayor. i misspoke. i mentioned former new york city mayor david deacon pretty much governor patterson. we were talking about yankee tickets. i apologize. and almost went very well, get along with them great. disagreed with them both,lo especially the u.s. open tennis every year. joining us now, the host of michelle malkin investigates, award-winning show. they somehow screwed up and gave an award to a conservative. ihe have no idea how. [laughs] sean: howrv are you? this is the agenda. they want to impeach the president, they want their comes back, they want to eliminate i.c.e., open borders, obamacare, and they want the investigations to end. if i am wrong, if there is something i m missing that the democrats are offering the american people, please tell me, because that is all they say or that is only want to do. that is a bottomha line, sea, it s not just abolishing i.c.e., it s abolishing the last founding principle that has helped preserve the greatness of our country. with particular regard to immigration, i can t tell you how relieved i am that we have a president who made promises to forgotten men and women in this country and is keeping them, and he s not just fighting the open border democrats. he is fighting the beltway establishment, the u.s. chamber of commerce types, the corporate interests, that have allied themselves with the radical left to try and sabotage our immigration laws and makeot us less to save and less prosperou. everything that president trump mentioned, chain migration, the diversity visa lottery, catch and release, are policies that i have underscored, they have weekend our country since i came up with invasion. i was talking about it on your show 16 years ago, sean! it is a sign of beltway g.o.p. fecklessness that we have got to make to mcconnell once again saying, wait. wait, american people. how many times do they say that? it is lucy and charlie brown with the football and people have had enough of it. this is the losing bargain that we should have learned from 1986 in the reagan amnesty, it never works. amnesty first and forfeit later, it never, ever comes. sean: just like a tax increase, you never get the spending cuts. here s the important question. i think the president s message by saying he would be willing to shut down the government, i don t know, republicans are afraid, if obama as president, they ll get blamed, if trump is president, they will get blamed. my question is specific. don t think his message was for chucky and nancy pelosi. i think his message was for mcconnell and ryan. you are going to fund the wall. i keep my promises, whether you do or not. i think you should follow through on it. ow yes, i absolutely do come too. otherwise we will get a repeat of the same kind of disasters we had under the bushe administration, where the secure fence act was signed with great hullabaloo in 2006 and we still have 400, 500 miles of unprotected border that was supposed to have a fence on it, more than a decade ago. people are tired of the same promises and expedience where the grassroots of the republican party are used, abused, o exploited, and then tossed out the window as soon as these people are reelected. thank goodness paul ryan is going to be out of there! i think jim jordan is exactly the kind of change that we need! sean: i m asking every conservative i know because this, for some conservatives, i m not a brewpub are not even a registered republican. i m a registered conservative, would you can do in new york. for real conservatives that find themselves in a position that there particular congressman, congresswoman, senator, is a rhino, and now we know what the democratic agenda is, to impeach, crumbs back, open borders, obamacare, stop the investigations into the deep state, what do you say if they don t want to vote for a rhino? i say it is too important for the president s agenda, and for forward progress of the country, that you have to suck it up. i hate to tell people to suck it up. i hate that it s a better of two evils but it really is in this case. to speak those are cost-benefit calculations that every voter has to make. we had to continue to more pressure on and expose the radical leftists within theur republican party who are essentially undercutting the president. sean: they are not going to align themselves with pelosi and maxine waters and other radical democrats and try and impeach h this man and stop all progress of this country, which has been pretty phenomenal, and 18 month months. i would say that, yes, it is buyer beware. you have to make sure that these people are not going to betray you because we ve seen that over and over and over again, whether it s on immigration or not. sean: you yelled at me once because they made the lesser of two evil choice. i remember the phone call. it was done in love. i deserved it at the time. michelle malkin. great to see you. when we come back, trump derangement syndrome isn t so bad, it is so out of control! we have got more to show you straight ahead! 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trump is being hammered because he did notot accept the findings of the intelligence community as to russian meddling. these are the same people who accused george w. bush of lying us into the war even though george w. bush relied on all 16, the unanimous opinion, have our intelligence agencies, that site that saddam hussein had stockpiles at the highest level of certainty.pi george bush relied at the intelligence committee, the very same people slamming donald trump accused george w. bush. where do you start with the george w. bush? could not have any columnists who are pro-trump. a lot of antagonism toward the president from the washington post, and president trump is giving it back. it is about time. sean: they are so upset about the president not only seeing fake news but enemy of the people. i just think what the president is saying, my interpretation, dan bongino, he is saying, you are not serving the american people s truth. you tell a lot of lies. you have an agenda. therefore, if you don t do your job, that is where that comment to me comes from. i look at the new york times. the new york times has competing articles the day after election day 2020. they are living in a fantasy world. it is really bizarre. sean, put yourself for a second i know it s tough because you are a rational person in the eyes, and the seat of a mainstream media figure today. years ago, you know this, larry knows that, we were told don t hustle with the mainstream medi media. they incorporated by the barrel. you are going to lose. the mainstream media knew that. they were like, this is great. reconstruct conservatives, all we have to do is impugn you by calling you a racist or anything ending in a ist or a phobe. donald trump not only scrap that model, he made his brand reversing the model. i don t think they will recover. sean: larry? and along came social media and twitter and now trump can communicate a 100 million americans without having to go through the washington post or cnn or the new york times. let s member the washington post has never endorsed a republican president in its history. the new york times hasn t endorsed one since 1956. so donald trump is recognizing this. he knows he s got to take them on hand that has been made able to do that in an effective fashion. i m impressed. sean: you have two cable networks, maybe they believe their own b.s. dan bongino, maybe they do. but it is every minute of every day, seven days a week, for three long years now, that they just obsess on hating this president and feigning outrage every day. i wonder that, too. i am being serious, i m often sarcastic on your show, but it is obviously not helping your business model. print media is dying. cnn is losing to the bob ross reruns on pbs. people are watching beach house sales on hdtv from seven years ago rather than watching cnn. you wonder why they sit around in a room and they say, okay like, you have to believe you almost want to believe for the sense of rationality that they do believena it even though it s crazy because then they would be insane otherwise. sean: thank you both. larry, great to see you. dan bongino, thank you. when we come back, the great one i always say mark is the great one. the great rush limbaugh on to shut downhreat the government over border security. that is next.enit what does he say? straight ahead. so you have, your headphones, chair, think about it? let s take a look. trump is showing he isli not afraid of a government shutdown which believe, the base of thisu party loves. the base of this republican party we know now, by the way, when you have any poll that shows that trump has 85-90% of the republican party, the republican base is trump s now. it s not a bunch of populist nationalists. it s the mainstream of the republican party that supports trump. they hate this cowering before the democrats and the media over government shutdowns. they hate giving up every policy idea in the face of the blackmail of government shutdowns. they love trump saying, he d be willing to do it over this because the issueey of immigratn is what got him elected. sean: i am with rush. shut it down. shut it down. the people with the president. that is all the time we have left this evening.h remember, this show was always going to be fair and balanced.d. we are not and never will be the
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The latest news from around the world with hosts John Berman and Poppy Harlow. a furjry trap. you have to be thinking the president has to be thinking well if i don t sit down with mueller at all and if i never grant this interview how do i go out there and explain to the american people i wouldn t do an interview even though i didn t do anything wrong. i think that s exactly right and part of the calculation that is creating such hesitancy on team trump s part about whether to sit down, two ways to look at this interview politically and legally. politically as you point out it might make sense for the president to sit down. he could try to wrap up this investigation quicker, before the midterm elections potentially and tell the public look, i am cooperating like i ve been saying i m doing nothing wrong legally as the lawyers pointed out his lawyers feel like it s a massive risk for the president. legal experts i ve talked to involved in past special investigations say they wouldn t advise their most studious client to sit down with a team like mueller s this seems so here including everything back to the lester holt interview talking about why he fired james comey. i was going to say, wouldn t that include intent, what you say in an on-the-record interview? of course. the problem is when you look at each piece of information in isolation which is what the report will try to do and then put the picture together, the mosaic is important but so are the individual pieces and without that informative interview you re left with the interpretation aspect, well, do i have enough for corrupt intent or do i have somebody exercising presidential prerogative. good point. alex, rudy giuliani on the trail yesterday this election is going to be about impeachment or no impeachment. is he right. i don t know about impeachment or no impeachment. that s the argument republicans want to put out there. it s whether congress will investigate the president aggressively or not and to laura s point, the overwhelming likelihood right now as far as everyone in washington is expecting is that mueller is not going to completely finish the job here that some element of this will fall on congress, whether it s something like impeachment or a follow up inquiry or investigation using subpoena powers of the house and senate. right now that isn t happening because remember republicans control the levers of investigation. if democrats were to take the house it s a safe bet not that they would do meechlts but that they would make the president s life absolutely miserable with that subpoena power. amber we heard rudy giuliani saying over and over how much time and energy this is sucking up from the president. how many times he has to talk to the president about what s going on and that it s hard to focus on other things but in actuality the trump administration is doing a lot at the same time that this may be sucking up the oxygen or eating up his twitter feed. if you look at what s happening now and today you have two big things happening through rule making, that is reversing the obama administration s policy when it comes to emissions on cars in a major way and also allowing the sale of health insurance plans that undermine the rules of obamacare and these are things that are happening on their own but not getting the attention. well, yeah, and i think trump administration actions are going to escalate as congress calls it quit bes sides trying to fund the government this fall so there s a distance between rudy giuliani s argument by saying we can t focus on anything else. and if mueller tried to subpoena trump and that went up the latter of the court to try to force trump to sit down, that would be a main argument on team trump s part is saying you can t force us to sit down because we re the president and busy with a bunch of other stuff but as you point out, we ll see the trump administration acting on a whole host of issues as congress takes a break. the clinton administration tried to do that but it didn t prove to be fruitful in the end. thank you very much, laura, alex and amber. the so-called rocket docket is living up to its name. paul manafort s trial will resume day three. what we re learning about his luxurious life-style and how he paid for it and will his former deputy take the stands? plus thanks and see you soon. on the same reports we ear getting word that north korea is working on a new missile, the president sends a late night tweet praising kim jong-un s kind actions for the remains that were returned. and the tsa considering eliminating passenger screening all together at 150 airports in this country. seriously. a major safety risk? we ll dig in. a place with 24-hour fvalet servicee and a boutique salon a place with all day arts and crafts it even has a day spa a place that s so much like home, because well. it is home home instead senior care when you need personalized care in the comfort of home. with tough food, your dentures may slip and fall. new fixodent ultra-max hold gives you the strongest hold ever to lock your dentures. so now you can eat tough food without worry. fixodent and forget it. moments from now the trial of paul manafort will resume in alexandria, virginia. prosecutors are expected to c el manafort s bookkeepers and accountants to the stand. prosecutors allege he hid money from the irs and the big we hanging in the air is will his deputy, rick gates, testify against him? our crime and justice reporter shimon prokupecz joins us now. i was stunned to see this headline cross that it s a question as to whether rick gates will take the stand. we know with rick gaits flips but he might not testify? we were shocked. reporters in the courtroom ran out to report the news. that was a surprise because we had anticipated that. though the prosecution never indicated they were going to call rick gates, he is on the witness list but they re not bound by that. the defense made more of an issue of this trying to blame everything on rick gates here so all of this transpired yesterday while a witness was testifying, an fbi agent was testifying and the prosecution was asking some questions and the judge basically said well you re going to have rick gates come in here so why doesn t he just testify to this and then the prosecutor responded we don t know if we re going to call rick gates. we may or may not so that set off this chain of events, all of us leading to believe that perhaps there is a whole thing that maybe he won t be in court to testify. the prosecutors are also hanging a lot of this on trying to convince the jury by showing them look, here s how us a ten tashsly he lived. look at the money he didn t report or pay taxes on but the judge had been blocking them from being able to show these goods and try to make their case to the jury and there s an update? this lavish life-style perhaps some might say somewhat tacky. there were $15,000 purchase of an ostrich jacket pictured there so the jury has not been able to see these photos. the judge has not allowed prosecutors to display them in court saying essentially, the judge is arguing there is no reason to do this and at point point the judge told the prosecutors living a lavish life-style is not a crime so overnight prosecutors are arguing, they filed a brief with the court saying they want to introduce this into evidence. they need to show it to the jury because the whole point of this is that a lot of these items with purchased through overseas money, wires that came to these companies from shell companies that manafort controlled and overseas accounts and the prosecutors need this to show how he was using the money, how he was hiding this money and how he was living this lavish life-style. and today who takes the stand and why are they critical to the prosecution. more of the same. it s going to be vendors, bookkeepers and tax folks that will come in and talk about manafort s finances. this is important because they ll again detail some of the taxes he wasn t paying, shell companies he created and how he was hiding his money overseas, obviously this is what this case is about. it s about taxes and not reporting money manafort made and hid in overseas accounts. shimon, appreciate the reporting. thank you so much. let s bring laura coates back in for the legal side if the prosecution doesn t call rick gates to the stand that would be stunning. it sounds like the lawyer tried to back trap after he said it in the courtroom. if they don t call rick gates, why night be? there s two reasons. the idea he may have tried to backtrack is important. the reason the prosecutor said they may not call rick gates is because judge ellis, known for intervening and inserting himself into the questioning and making sure it s an expeditious proceeding is trying to tell him why are you asking those questions? if you call rick gates it will be irrelevant and the prosecutor has every right to build his case the way he sees fit and not hinge his case on one witness. the other reason is now after opening statements the prosecution is well aware of the defense s strategy. that they re going to do a he said/he said game and rely on the jury believing that the person who is the informant, the cooperator for the government is not a credible person so they ve taken a lot of air out of those sails by saying you better rethink your strategy, this is a document-heavy case and we may not ever have to call rick gates so your he said/he said credibility issue may never come to play. the rocket docket that is the nickname for this court and specifically judge ellis who tries to move things along so quickly, why? couldn t bit dangerous to justice, frankly, to rush things too much? well, there is that thought that perhaps if you are trying to cut corners and there is an injustice happening however the notion that somebody would be if sill ta facilitating a quick trial should be the goal. it s not that he is trying to expedite in a way to cut corner bus to keep focus and say listen, this is not a trial we ve put wealth on the stand. we are trying to ensure the government has a case based on whether or not he paid uncle sam and lived above his means or whether he did not. however there have been assertions by previous people in front of the judge including prosecutors in this case who believe perhaps that this is becoming too expeditious. they said it would be a three-week trial, poppy. at the rate it s going right now that is a gross overestimation of how long it will take. wow. quickly before we go, what do you know about this judge? he is becoming a central part of this. quite a character. this is somebody who has spent 30 years or more on the bench. princeton, harvard and oxford educated. is known to speak spanish to his spanish-speaking defendants. equal parts warmth and scorn for people trying to slow down the court proceedings and he would like the focus to be on the crime. that is a great thing. the other part is remember this is the same judge who questioned the motivation of why the special counsel would try to go after paul manafort and upended of who the audience of one was going to be. was it robert mueller or donald trump? he is known to be kuwait fire. somebody who at one point was known as the tasmanian devil because he will make sure that his courtroom is in order even if it means there is pie or egg on your face in the process. laura coates, thank you very much for being with me on all of this this morning. the president is praising kim jong-un for his kind actions on the same week we re hearing north korea is building more missiles. and we re moments away from the opening bell on wall street. the dow is expected to fall. top of mind for investors, the trade were with china and its impact on the broader economy as the trump administration considers raising tariffs to 25% on $200 billion worth of chinese goods. introducing e trade personalized investments professionally managed portfolios customized to help meet your financial goals. you ll know what you re invested in and how it s performing. so you can spend more time floating about on your inflatable swan. [ding] been return is a very good thing. is it kind or is it just righting a wrong that she should righted a long time ago? we need to clear a couple things up. that s not the extent of the remains in north korea. there is an estimated 7500 remains unaccounted for. 5800 or so above the 38th parallel in north korea and that mission was stopped in 2005 because of the threatening actions of the kim regime so these 55 boxes are a good start. it will take months if not years to determine who these remains are and how they connect the dna samples and what is in the boxes so while it s a good start, it isn t mission accomplished in terms of all the remains. this is one of the few areas in the world where the defense p.o.w./m.i.a. accounting agency doesn t have access on a daily basis so they ve been prevented from going into these areas for the last ten years. again a good start, very good for families of these fallen soldiers but it s not as big a deal as it could be if kim played ball in terms of returning the 5300 remains in his country. what about the timing of this? that the the praise of kim jong-un, thanking him for a, quote, kind action comes the same week the washington post broke the reporting that north korea is working on one, possibly two new missiles at a very critical location and factory and the fact that we just heard secretary of state mike pompeo testify under oath before the senate that, yes, north korea is still produce this fissile material. we know they re still enriching uranium. it s appropriate for the president to thank chairman kim for these actions. that s could be part of a negotiating technique to praise him, asking him to do more, continue to engage. but truthfully when you see the other more important elements of denuclearization which have not been accomplished and there doesn t appear to be movement toward that, in fact all indicators from the intelligence community and the state department is just the opposite of happen iing, it seems to be strange these kinds of effusive comments from the president to mr. kim are saying some of the things that are indicating some of the things that we re seeing. the one part that troubled me was i look forward to seeing you again. without any action on the part of the lower level officials like some of the engagements with career diplomats to include the secretary of state. i wouldn t advice personally the president to go back again for another summit until more actions are taken by the kim regime. lieutenant general america hertling, thank you. thank you, poppy. wait until you hear this next story. the tsa may actually stop screening passengers, all passengers at 150 airports in this country. why would that happen next. why would that happen next. liberty mutual saved us almost $800 when we switched our auto and home insurance. with liberty, we could afford a real babysitter instead of your brother. hey! oh, that s my robe. is it? when you switch to liberty mutual, you could save $782 on auto and home insurance. and still get great coverage for you and your family. call for a free quote today. you could save $782. liberty mutual insurance. liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ahoy! gotcha! ah! nooooo. noooooo. nooooo. quick, the quicker picker upper! bounty picks up messes quicker and is 2x more absorbent than the leading ordinary brand. ahoy! 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some are showing up at emergency rooms on the brink of death and the need for treatment for chronic illness and one doctor says these patients don t have anywhere else to turn. many of these patients would rather risk having a near-death experience than being turned away from the hospital when they don t meet critically ill criteria. behr premium plus, behr through it all with a top-rated paint at a great price. find it exclusively at the home depot. that was a low point for me as well. i feel very strongly about that and i am very vehemently against family separation. we have to be careful about incentivizing behavior that puts children at risk of being trafficked. at risk of entering this country with coyotes or making an incredibly dangerous journey alone. these are incredibly difficult issues and like the rest of the country i i experience them in a very emotional way. we ll have more from that interview in a bit but as the immigration crisis persists, there remains a stark disparity between the insured and undocumented immigrants in terms of getting health kcare. often times they can t get treated for chronic illness like kidney failure until they are in a life threatening emergency. dr. sanjay gupta has been following one mother s hardship as she s been trying to get dialysis. he joins me now. obviously we would think yes, of course, undocumented immigrants don t have health insurance but i never before thought about what do people with chronic illness do in terms of getting treatment? exactly. a lot of people haven t considered this. even people within the medical profession. a group of doctors, a out of denver flagged this issue to give us insight into what happens when someone has a chronic disease, gets health care but it s very late. in order to understand what s going on here, you re going to need to suspend disbelief. lucia is dying, her lungs drowning in fluid, her electrolytes are fluctuating wildly and her heart is precariously close to shutting down. this 51-year-old mother and undocumented immigrant has end-stage renal disease, full on kidney failure. the function of the kidneys is to filter blood of excess toxins and fluid. when both kidneys stop working, people will live 10 to 14 days so to continue living you need a process to filter blood which is a dialysis machine. reporter: for most people, that treats the problem. here s the problem, she s only allowed treatment when she arrived at death s door. hospitals must care for anyone with the medical emergency, regardless of their citizenship or ability to pay. but they are not obligated to prevent that emergency from happening in the first place. what is happening inside the body? for these patients, because they only come in once a week, instead of the three times per week, excess fluid, it stays in their body and goes into their lungs, into their legs. the toxins build up. one of the most important toxins being potassium, which at high levels can make the heart stop. reporter: this is no way to live. about as close to death as you can get. what s more, research shows treating patients with emergency die i alysis versus standard isr times more expensive because these patients are so much sicker when they come in for treatment. they are literally pushing themselves to the brink of death. am i overstating that? not at all. reporter: there s no question it works. just look at her now. after die i alysis removed ten liters of fluid from her body. translator: right now i feel good. reporter: she s always worried. mostly about her family, especially her son alex. he watches his mother steadily decline every week. this is their life. how hard has been this been on your family? translator: it s been really hard. it s been really hard for my family. the worst is for my son. he worries about me. reporter: because just a few days from now, like clockwork, she will once again go to the precipice of death just so that she can live. it s stunning. knowing this will happen to her, but having to get to the brink before you can get treatment. would she, for instance, be eligible for a kidney transplant? no. great point. great question. a kidney transplant would be what she needs. just from a pragmatic standpoint, would be cheaper than someone gettingdialysis. that s why we do transplants. she would not be eligible. is she dies, she s eligible for her or beggaorgans to be transp. she cannot be a recipient but can be a donor. another important angle when you talk about the health and cost of our health care system. thank you. a miracle. seconds after taking off, this flight crashes. it s all caught on camera. miraculously, everyone lived. now iing the amazing stories of survival. what will you tell people when you get home to chicago? that i fell from the sky and survived. comcast business gives you gig-speed in more places. the others don t. we offer up to 6 hours of 4g wireless network backup. everyone else, no way. we let calls from any of your devices come from your business number. them, not so much. we let you keep an eye on your business from anywhere. the others? nope! get internet on our gig-speed network and add voice and tv for $34.90 more per month. call or go online today. this morning, the pilot and two dozen passengers are still being treated in hospitals. some of them are calling the fact that no one died in this crash a miracle. the mexico city-bound flight had 99 passengers, 65 of them u.s. citizens and four crew members when it was downed apparently by high winds after taking off in mexico. leyla santiago is with me and has the latest. i cannot believe this. reporter: right. it s pretty amazing to know that everyone was able to walk away off that plane after it crashed. the investigators going to focus on what led up to that crash. in the meantime, a lot of these survivors are still trying to make sense of what exactly happened and how they will move forward. many of those 65 u.s. citizens, as they make their way home now, poppy, they are going to be asking themselves, how do i get back on a plane. it happened yesterday, 24 hours ago. it s still fresh in my mind. i can t close my eyes right now. i still see the flame. i see everything. reporter: al still can t stop thinking about this moment, seconds after taking off, impact, screams and panic as passengers shifted into survival mode to escape the flames and smoke of the fallen plane in mexico. all 103 people aboard flight 2431 survived, more than half u.s. citizens. you are seeing first responders running at you with stretchers. i m yelling at them to go to the more injured people. reporter: he says he joined a priest who was on board in prayer. cnn talked to the father, director of the shrine of our lady of guadalupe hours before surgery for his injured arm, he was counting blessings and giving thanks, the idea that nobody died, he says i would consider that a miracle. reporter: officials pointed at bad weather. strong wind gusts knocked the plane down. officials warned of possible storms and hail. overwhelmed with anxiety, several passengers boarded a flight to return home, stopping in mexico city. i cried. reporter: why? the sentiment got to me. i saw my seat where i was sitting in front of me. i saw the people. everything flashed back. when you are sitting there with your seat belt on, it all came flooding back. really hard. people die when planes crash. here i am as a survivor taking another plane. the lady in front of me held my arm because i was sobbing. reporter: with bruises and a passport filled with the mud from the scene, he hasn t found a way to leave it all behind. what will you tell people when you get home to chicago? that i fell from the sky and survived. reporter: fascinating conversation to have with him. investigators were able to locate the black boxes. those critical will prove to be critical in the investigation and getting to the bottom of