you do not pay for the food. you pay for the time you spend a year. everything else is free. fdot the army has been deployed in parts of bangladesh for the first time in five years. they have taken up a position in the northern area. at least 20 people have died in violence across the country on sunday. lilas erupted after an opposition leader was sentenced to death for war crimes. jim ferguson reports. violence and danger in bangladesh has become the daily normal. the first day of a 48-hour strike across the country following several days of protests. are supporters of a party and a senior member was sentenced to death for war crimes. ofguilty against crimes against humanity during the war in pakistan. the charges all of which today denied. is trying toment kill him. police have been underplayed in the city s four days and there have been arrested and the many protests. life for most are difficult. any interference in the daily routine makes it worse. i see newspapers on the street. will i customers, how make a living? for those of us in school, we have exams. all causes are canceled. this is a problem for all of us. crimes say the war tribunal is targeting their leadership on fairly. the government set up the tribunal to redress the atrocities of the civil war which pitted nationalist against pakistan. they say most of those on trial are opposition members with seven more leaders to be sentenced. anger among supporters putting them out on the streets for some time. janus for december, al-jazeera. we cannot speak to our reporter in the capital with security reasons. what is the latest you re hearing in the situation? there have been flashpoints across several districts in bangladesh, mainly in the north. the death toll has steadily increased to 23. adding that to those of already been killed since thursday, well over 60 people have been killed so far. 280 of them have been kilometers or more of the capital, dakkar. military units were deployed after three police stations were attacked in the early hours of sunday. the district commissioner was severely injured and now he is in a stable condition. sectionementation of 144 of the law had been implemented. that means more than four people are now banned and the military in that one district alone are trying to classify the situation in there. but the situation there is very typical to cross the country. 10 kilometers outside of the capital, four dead here, one dead here. it we re slowly getting in more reports of individuals, women or children, coming through u.s. year. thisthere has been an over ove and turning it over on friday. the strike has been well observed. we have been driving around to see what is different with the schools mostly closed. that was our correspondent on the line there from dakkar on the situation in bangladesh, still very hostile. the military mobilized in malaysia after they found and killed five policemen. two gunmen also killed on sunday night and they re suspected of being linked to a group of armed intruders and that group has been holed up in the state for more 3 weeks now. they refused to surrender. 14 people were killed in a shootout with police. the secretary general of the front in the ruling coalition tells us why this has now become a military operation. according to the general of police and the army chief, we have mobilized our assets and leave the area. by and large, the incidents are isolated and confined to a very small area in the easternmost locations near the philippines. the rest of the country is very normal. people are going about their usual normal life. tolerate and we have made it very clear any information we in obtain, any part of our sovereign country by anyone, including the sultan. this must be a serious threat if your mobilizing the enemy. you must understand that these people, even though that they are a ragtag army, they are better hard and and they re willing to sacrifice their ands and there are serious traditions and we do not want to take any chances. they have said the planner of the attack of the algerian kidnapping has been killed in northern mali. his death was announced, but still less conclusive evidence. we report from the capital. this is the last dtime muktar was seen, plymouth responsibility for the attack on the gas plant in algeria earlier that week. it resulted in at least 37 foreign hostages killed and it made him notorious around the world. known locally as the uncatchable, over the years he evaded attempts by algeria and france to be killed or captured. now, the chad military says they have finally caught up with the -directed qaeda terrorist. we have said that a number of terrorists were killed in the operations including him. news comes just after one day after the president announced his troops had killed another leader in the islamic mugrab. he is believed to outbid a key to minder a key commander of those fighting in mali. for the first time, our soldiers are being successful and have killed the main jihaddist leaders. is the news is confirmed, this will be a major boost for french and african troops fighting rebels, but the success of the aisle qaeda-linked groups in north, west and central africa will not based aren t these celebrities. they may be able to bring in new leaders even as they lose veteran commanders. al-jazeera, bchad. secretary of state john kerry will be meeting with mohamed morsi. anita alive elie cairo. what is at the top of the agenda for the meeting between the two? they are fairly clearly marked out. askingrry is going to be him to renew and strengthen his democracy.to they re refusing for some of them to participate claiming that the morsi government is already stacking the deck against them and that the elections will not be fair. john kerry will be underscoring the great need in this unstable .ime this actually works and includes is the one in egypt they re speaking most firmly on in this visit and it is that of the economy. if it collapses, you can forget about politics fixing things. talking about the advisability of bringing the imf in, alone, anything they can take to strengthen and stabilize the economy is one that john kerry is speaking very emphatically arm. one meeting he had late last was for a and ally. what about being seen as interfering in egyptian affairs? balanceis the delicate he is having to strike. in egypt in america have been locked in a very interesting embrace. egypt, at the moment, they cannot do. the largest part of that, $1.30 billion limit goes to the egyptian military to buy u.s. military equipment. that is something that they do not want to do without either. the two of them have to work together, but the least popular thing he can do now would be to appear to be telling them how to run their own affairs and that is where we have seen some of these groups protesting his arrival. it s an interesting protests. on one hand, they say america should not tell us how to run our democracy, but they also say america should tell president morsi to be more inclusive. they do want american engagement but they do not want american interference. that s the delicate balance john kerry has to deal with. when thank you, anita, in cairo. hosni mubarak was jailed for life over the killing of hundreds of protesters. the appeals court granted the 84-year-old an appeal. syrian president bush far assaad has given an interview and he said certain foreign countries were not honest in the conflict and that he was not interested in a dialogue. of anyone want this to , wants to genuinely aid in these ending in violence come you can do only one thing. go to turkey and tell him to stop smuggling terrorists and to syria. in providingthem logistical support. stop doing this. this is the only thing they want, dealing with the external part of this. it is 11:15 gmt. have been soldiers deployed following an attack on police. at least 20 people have been killed. an violence began after opposition leader was sentenced to death for war crimes. modernizing after a gunman ambushed and killed five believed to be from an armed group in the philippines as which has been held up for three weeks now. is saider of the group to have been killed in northern mali. they say they have killed muktar in an operation to flush out the rebels. returning now to our top stories, they are in the conflict of cultures going back decades. going back to 1947, bangladesh roll.nder pakistan an war broke got and they are accused of hiding with pakistan. 3 million people were killed in a conflict lasting nine months, many at the hands of the militia groups to wanted to remain under pakistan. thousands of women were raped. it was the first time it was it used as a weapon of war. they denied taking part in the atrocities. jane ferguson has just returned from bangladesh. these were trier of this have haveed up war trials opened up old wounds. it is not just about justice. the tribunal has been accused of being problematic at best and that is not just by the opposition or the religious parties, however, like you said, it is meant to be healing old wounds but it has open the many. of those sides of the divide, people really want this to be addressed. the history of 1971 has not really been dealt with. what thisally tribunal was meant to be. other religious parties say that this is really about the government. what we re seeing in the street is not just a case of pro-government banned anti- government? the politics is more than simply that. there are religious elements here at work. and is a very sensitive topic. those who are opposing death sentences is because the people being tried are they re very leaders. they tend to be more conservative religious parties. on the other side, they are still muslim people and tend to be more secular. is a country that is no stranger to a military coup. . backend is that the military has been deployed? cynne and the people in bangladesh. there have been military crews again and again, so they are very sensitive to news like that. in other countries it may be normal to have the army brought in if there is a level of unrest. these are just some isolated incidents of the army moving in, not that this is just a broad sweep. at this point, the government seems to be firmly in control politically. they will be watching this very assely because they see this a blast from the past. and at the kenya where the campaigning is over and they have a day to make up their minds as to they want as their next president. it is these two men leading the race. this is his third time running office. odinga and kenyata have final rallies on saturday. given the past, security is still a big issue. room shack,iny one- they are busy packing. fearing violence from the elections, he plans to move them to a suburb of the capital surrounded by members of his tribe. i have lived with them and, studied with them. i m sure violence will happen here, but i do not want my kids to suffer. we are moving away. also facing other security challenges. their role in the peace building mission in somalia has placed them on the front line of the operations but also on the receiving end of reprisal attacks. attacks like this one have been .lamed on al shabab this is a popular shopping district in nairobi. at least 20 killed and 100 injured in attacks in the last year. in one of the bombings .f the suburb, he believes i am seeking reelection. more years ofsee intelligence. a more robust way of dealing with this. and then when that happens, following up and apprehending the culprit before they commit more acts of violence. they are preparing for possible violence up to the elections. officials of the agency are training members of emergency groups. people were caught unaware. they know there were not expecting this intensity of violence. the storm, the government, everyone, they are preparing for and hoping and for the best. we are collaborating with other agencies and we are sure that we will provide an environment for a peaceful to referee, and a fair election. , the last assurances election remains vigilant in their minds and most are open for bees. al-jazeera come in nairobi, kenya. hoping for peace. tim, tell us about what s been happening. remind us of the events that led us to this? peaceful andvery protest in the capital because it is not only a chance for them to come out in the street and make their feelings known but it s also a national holiday celebrating this country s liberation of from the ottoman empire. there is a mixture of people representing all types of opinions, but just to remind you briefly of the timeline of events that have brought us to this point, i remember earlier on in february, protests mainly triggered by high electricity prices morphed into a wide approach against austerity and within a few weeks, the prime minister officially resigned on february 21st and he said he was not prepared to be in power where he needed the riot police to keep control. it looks as least as though bulgaria is heading for an election on may 12th. in a way, the campaigning has already started because people have been out making their points about how they think things should play out here. they and you come let him come alive in the bulgarian capital. during soviet times, coffee culture did not really exist in russia. now the love is growing so much that thousands are drinking the brew each day. there are doing it a little differently. at this cafe come a time really is money. at most cafes, the more you consume, the more you pay. here, things are different. do not pay what you drink or eat. time you spend a year. they pay it $4 for the first hour. in the past few years, muscovites have taken cafe culture to their hearts. this is just one of many places popping up fueled by the demand for places to work, eat, drink, and talk. a freee trying to create space for people to want to communicate with each other and make different art projects. the cafeone decade ago cu life really had not taken off. they did not have the funds to while away the hours. in 1996, they reported that two coffee houses called themselves that. today, more than 3000. the import of coffee went up nearly 10% in 2011. there were among the first to open the doors and they now have branches in seven cities. customers have become more discerning about what they want. you do not have to dress up. before coming people are making coffee at home but now it is a necessary part of their work in and day. for cafe s seven coffee is expected to keep on growing. back at the cafe, with the stomach and the sole fed, it s time to go. al-jazeera, moscow. demolishing an historic site to build apartments? they re working to demolish one of the law structures of the berlin wall will continue despite a report tests. this thought of removing it 22- reader section on friday, but the work will continue because they have all the necessary permits to build luxury apartments on site. an unmanned u.s. space capsule has arrived at the international space station. capturedx dragon was by the iss. it is
the baltimore police department lined with barricades and officers protesters standing firm with their demand for justice. how do you take a man, put him in handcuffs and we hear the frustration of the community. we hear the angst and the hurt in the gray family. and we have an obligation to make sure that we are as open and transparent with this investigation as we can be. reporter: freddie gray s mother shielding her face overcome with grief tuesday. still unable to lay her son to rest. police have yet to turn over his body. the family plans to conduct a second private autopsy. the baltimore sun quoting the family as saying before he died gray underwent surgery for three fractured vertebrae in his neck. i don t know at what point mr. gray suffered the traumatic and fatal injuries. i don t know. but i m determined to get to the bottom of it. reporter: the department of justice says it s now launching their own probe to determine if any civil rights were violated. and this week baltimore police department releasing the names of all six officers who were directly involved in the april 12th arrest. five men and one woman their ages range from 25 to 45. four of them relatively new to the force. the other two have at least 15 years of experience with the department. all six suspended with pay. authorities stressing that the actions taken against them in no way implies any wrongdoing in the arrest. the baltimore police department is promising to have their investigation wrapped up by next friday. they re going to turn it over thanks so suzanne for that report. well this is not the first time that the baltimore police department has been accused of excessive force. an investigation by the baltimore sun found that since 2011 the city of baltimore has paid out close to $6 million in court judgments or settlements to victims of police abuse. let s bring in the reporter behind that sun investigation mark puente and pastor of the empowerment temple church who marched with the protesters last night. gentlemen, thanks so much for being here. reverend toipt start with you. we understand more than 1,000 people turned out to protest and it was very emotionally charged. in fact we hear that freddie gray s family also came out. his mother became overwhelmed at one point. can you describe what the whole experience was like? it was overwhelming not just for his mother but for fredrika which was his twin sister. to feel the heaviness of the reality being outside of the precinct knowing these six officers essentially on a paid vacation while we have to pull money together for a funeral. it s a gravin equity and a slap in the face to say it s a mystery. it s not a mystery, it s a murder. and those six officers need to be held accountable for it. mark we talked abtd the investigative pieces you ve done for your paper, the baltimore sun in which you ve looked at excessive force in the baltimore police department. what did you find? well our investigation found that since 2011 baltimore police officers have been sued countless times, in 102 cases the city either settled or jury awarded damages to suspects who eventually became plaintiffs in those lawsuits. and what stood out to us is that in nearly all the cases the individuals were charged during questionable arrests and charged with disorderly conduct, resisting arrest and assault on a law enforcement officer. the charges were later dropped by prosecutors and judges. many of the individuals had broken arms broken bones, black eyes other injuries. and the city paid out damages. and they didn t track these cases. they had no way to know multiple officers had been sued multiple times for similar accusations. mark that s incredible. those findings are incredible that the people who were originally arrested it turns out there was no rationale to charge them criminally. and they came out of it with all these injuries. were you able to determine if baltimore is worse than other police departments? is something going on specifically in baltimore? well we looked at dallas as a comparison as a similar size department. dallas had 26 claims and paid about the same amount of money. would have saved baltimore millions of dollars the state has a cap per case. had that cap not been in place the number could have been significantly higher. reverend one of the most infuriating things to the protesters is that the baltimore police department has not been able to provide any answers about what happened to freddie gray once he was in custody or even why they pursued him to begin with. last night a spokesperson for the baltimore police department came on cnn and spoke to erin burnett. and his answer was stunning in its basically lack of awareness. i want to play this for you. we re going to follow the facts where they go. the deputy commissioner said no force was used. all of the evidence that we have at this time indicates there was no force used there was no bruising no indication of any sort of broken bones. however, that investigation is still ongoing. reverend he says that all of the evidence shows that no force was used? yeah. when you look at his spine is 80% severed, it shows a pattern of quite negligence. and for the mayor and for the police commissioner and that precinct captain needs to be held accountable. three different things. number one, they still don t have probable cause as to why they even arrested him. number two, they cannot give accountability for their lapse in time. and number three, never in the history of respiratory illnesses has an asthma attack led to your spine being broken. and i think that the police department is in fact somewhere between hallway patrol and lost in space to say that there s been absolutely no excessive force. that s why the citizens of baltimore are outraged and we re going to city hall thursday at 3:00. mark you know the mayor has come on new day, mayor of baltimore, she s also said she can t get answers. why can t they get answers out of the police department? that s a big question. it s not just us who are asking. every person in this town is asking. the national spotlight s in this town waiting for answers. they re saying they can t give answers because the law enforcement officer allows a certain amount of days before officers are compelled to testify or talk to investigators. that s been a big issue we found in our investigation that the law favors the officers and they tried to change that this year and the mayor was down there fighting for that but they couldn t overcome the fraternal order of police lobbying. reverend what does baltimore need to change? wat do all the people who turned out last night for that protest want to see happen? there s got to be a complete overhaul of the criminal justice system not just in baltimore but across the country. we re seeing a pattern of a hunting season on black men across america from ferguson to sanford to staten island now here in baltimore. it s so necessary for loretta lynch to be confirmed so the whole area is fumigated and we start from the bottom. mark puente reverend thank you for your information. we ll talk to you again. over to chris. overseas saudi arabia says air strikes in yemen are ending because operation decisive storm has achieved its goals. and yet yemen is an all-out battleground as houthi rebels are marauding through the southeast of the country. the sea as precarious as on land. u.s. forces now watching for arm shipments from iran. let s get the latest from cnn s international correspondent frederik pleitgen in tehran. fred the latest from there. reporter: yeah. good morning, chris. and the skies are supposed to be silent over yemen but apparently they are not. the latest information we ve been getting is apparently the houthi rebels apparently tried to overrun a base and when that happened air strikes were called in. the saudis struck the houthi rebels and pushed them back. so seems while the cease-fire, while the cessation of bombardment seems to be happening in most of the country, there are stilg incidents happening. all of this is causing friction between the united states and iran. for a very long time iran has criticized the u.s. s position on yemen. and at the same time you have the u.s. and iran trying to improve their relations among things with this nuclear deal that s going on. i was able to speak to the top commander of iran s ground forces. this is a man who normally never speaks to western television. and he says there is still a long way to go. i want to read you what he told me. he said at the moment we consider the united states to be a threat to us because the policies and actions are threatening to us. we would like the u.s. to change its rhetoric and tone of voice so that our nation could have more trust in the u.s. military leadership. we trust the american people but the tone of the u.s. government and military officials is such that we would still consider the u.s. a threat. of course the same is true in the other direction. there s still a lot of fiery rhetoric coming out of tehran especially in regards to that standoff that s going on at sea between those iranian vessels and the u.s. the iranians are saying they have no desire to try and sail towards yemeni waters. they say the only thing they want to do is try and provide humanitarian assistance to yemen. michaela. all right, fred. let s dig deeper on that. president obama is delivering a strong message to iran about aiding those houthi rebels as u.s. warships patrol the gulf of aden ready to cut off the flow of arms to those rebels. cnn s michelle kosinski has the latest for us from the white house. reporter: good morning. the white house has made it clear that the u.s. is absolutely ready to physically stop iran or backup others from stopping iran and getting anymore weapons to the houthis in yemen. the white house doesn t want to spell it out in those terms. they re really reluctant to do so. they ve been reciting almost as a mantra almost 15 times in yesterday s briefing that the mission of u.s. warships in that region is to protect the free flow of navigation and commerce. but they also said that the international community is resolute in enforcing a new u.n. resolution barring the transfer of weapons to the houthis. and that the u.s. stands shoulder-to-shoulder in that goal. here s what president obama had to say about the situation. what we ve said to them is is that if their weapons delivered to factions within yemen, they could threaten navigation that s a problem. and we re not sending them obscure messages. we send them very direct messages about it. reporter: and he said part of that message is clear to iran that they need to be part of the solution and not the problem. alisyn. okay michelle. thanks so much for that. well we have some breaking news this morning. french officials say they have foiled an imminent terror attack at a church. the 24-year-old algerian suspect was detained on sunday in paris after accidentally shooting himself. police found a blood trail leading to his car where they discovered loaded guns. and they found more guns later in his home. the suspect had already been flagged as a security risk last year. also breaking hundreds of migrants rescued in the mediterranean sea are now back on land this morning. this rescue came on the heels of a weekend disaster believed to have killed 800 migrants after their boat capsized. let s get to carl at the port in sicily where the rescue ship just docked. a little bit of relief at least in this part of the story, carl. reporter: absolutely, chris. for the last hour we ve been watching 446 migrants coming off that italian naval vessel. they have been adrift by according to early survivor accounts eight days in the mediterranean since heading south in the coast of egypt. some survivors say they were transferred to six different vessels on their way here because one gang of people smugglers would then pass them onto a different gang. and as you look at those people coming off that boat you just get a sense of how bad things really must be back at home because we have seen women with babes in arms coming down the gangplank. we have seen toddlers so small that they seem to stagger along taking their first steps towards a new life. now, there s a lot of syrians onboard there. they re obviously fleeing the civil conflict there. there are egyptians onboard as well. things as we know have turned bad there since the breakdown of democracy in egypt. and a lot of subsaharan africans from west africa and from the horn of africa as well. the italian police also on hand here though they re going to be combing through the passengers on that vessel to see if they can find any trace of the people traffickers. back to you, michaela. such a horrifying scenario. good to see those people reach dry land. thanks so much for that karl. meanwhile, a nightmare at sea of a different sort. a trip to paradise turns into a nightmare for passengers and crew aboard a carnival cruise ship off the coast of australia. thousands of vacationers were caught in a once-in-a-decade storm producing some 30-foot waves at sea. passengers are grateful to be back on land and now recounting that harrowing experience. our senior international correspondent iranevan watson has more on their tale. reporter: you re right, one passenger called this a nightmare. can you imagine these 2,000 people forced to basically ride out the storm aboard this cruise ship when the main port in sydney had to close because the storm was just so severe. so these tourists they got a lot more than they bargained for when they went out on this cruise. horror off the coast of australia. this is the view of over 2,000 passengers stranded on a carnival cruise ship near sydney. the east coast of the country slammed by a once-in-a-decade deadly storm. the waves up to 30 feet high with winds surpassing 60 miles an hour forcing the ship packed with 800 children to stay outside the harbor overnight tuesday. sydney officials say it was too risky. this is the first time i ve had this close to port and first time i ve ever refused entry to a cruise ship. reporter: passengers back on land wednesday morning describe a nightmare. i ve been on a cruise before and i never had this experience in my whole entire life. i was petrified. reporter: the carnival company no stranger to stranded cruise liners. in 2010 carnival splendor was left off the coast of san diego for three days due to an engine fire. and in 2013 carnival triumph suffered a similar fate in the gulf of mexico leaving passengers helpless for nearly a week. but this time the massive storm whipping australia s coastline, banging fishing boats against the shore and sweeping entire homes off their foundation is the reason carnival cruise line s vice president says this delay was unavoidable. now, the passengers are back safe on dry land but the australian city of sydney the southeastern coast of australia are still reeling from this storm. police say that at least four people have been killed by this severe weather over the last two days. police telling me that the most recent fatality was an 86-year-old woman whose car was swept away by a flood, by a river that flooded its banks. a top official in this state of australia saying this storm was much more severe than originally anticipated. back to you guys. thank you very much for the reporting on it. the storm clearly more than just a carnival cruise ship calamity. that looked very unpleasant. being trapped on that boat must have been so scary. yeah. do any cruise ships just come into port uneventfully anymore? i feel they do. and i know you re going to go to the extreme, but most do, alisyn. but we don t report on those. right. you re not going to take a cruise now. i ve never really been enticed by the idea being on a cruise and now this kind of shuts it down for me. one of 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us. ask your doctor about xarelto®. you may be able to get up to 12 months at no cost. welcome back. saudi arabia says air raids in yemen were going to end because operation decisive storm had achieved its goals. but it turned out to be less than decisive because air strikes are resuming shortly after they ended after houthi rebels continue to destroy the country. so the focus now moves from land to sea. and remember those iranian ships, the mystery cargo according to the allies. and what will happen when they meet the u.s. ships in the gulf of aden? those are big issues surrounding a situation that s ever-more confusing. we ll call it yemen. let s bring in co-author of going to tehran, a former state department mideast analyst under both clinton and bush. and mr. christopher harmer senior naval analyst at the institute for the study of war and a former deputy director for the u.s. navy s fifth fleet in bahrain. thanks to you both for being here. hillary, let s start with the top view of what is going on here. you say the u.s. isn t quite sure why saudi arabia started this conflict. i didn t even know that saudi arabia did start the conflict. they probably wouldn t agree with that. why do you assess it that way? well saudi arabia has been militarily involved and trying to manipulate political outcomes in yemen for decades. the last time they did this in 2009 they lost militarily to the houthis. this time around i think there s a lot of confusion here in washington both in terms of why the saudis are doing this and what are their goals. do they have any achievable goals here? but i thought this was about iran. that iran was funding the houthi rebels and they destroyed the government and making the country a terrorist hideaway. that s certainly the narrative. but there s very little evidence if any, there s no public evidence of iranian arming or doing any kind of significant arming of the houthis in yemen. the houthis have long-been marginalized in yemen. and they ve long been a restive rebellious population. trying to roll back the outcome and install their puppet the president haidi who has now fled to saudi arabia. this idea that it s all about iran is intended to get the united states involved in yet another war without end, yet another damaging conflict for the united states to help prop up saudi goals, which are not in u.s. interests. and that takes us christopher, to one of the points of confusion here which is that there was an allied military mission called operation decisive storm which i think today s the first i ever said those words and that it achieved its goals. i want to put up the graphic of what those goals were and you tell me if any of these are even close to being achieved, prevent takeover by houthis, protect neighboring countries, neutralize the houthi military prevent the flow of weapons, protect yemen s government. how can you say any of those have been achieve snd. you can t say any of those have been achieved. i think what happened is the saudis got caught up in a conflict they really weren t sure why they got into it they re not sure how to get out of it. i think they re declaring victory and walking away but they certainly did not achieve any of their strategic objectives. the saudis are an inherently inward looking military structure. they re mostly concerned about internal instability. they are concerned about iranian influence, they are concerned about what happens in yemen, but they are built to suppress internal dissent. they re not built to conduct external operations. i don t think they knew what they were getting into here. why they conducted some spectacular air strikes, blew up some buildings, it hasn t had an effect on the ground in yemen significantly. they continue to take their fight to the pro-government forces. spectacular meaning they looked good but probably didn t achieve much. operation decisive storm we can certainly qualify that s what it s done to u.s. interest. chris, with your naval expertise, what do you make of this iran interdiction on the waters? what do you think the chances are they re carrying weapons this flagrantly into a possible scenario with the u.s. ships there? and do you think there will be any kind of conflict? i m absolutely certain the iranians are proliferating weapons to the houthis in one way or another. i m not sure they re on these specific ships. we do not interdict vessels. it would take a significant change in u.s. policy in order for the u.s. navy to actually interdict, and seize these vessels. what we re doing is sending a message to the iranians that the united states navy is keeping track of what the iranian navy and shipping lines are doing. i don t expect anything to come of this. i think it s showmanship on both parts, iran and the united states. do we look bad here the united states? hillary, when i say we i mean the united states. because if we were doing a show of force as christopher suggests the iranians basically thumb their nose at us and say we don t care what you re doing, we re trying to be humanitarian. why are you here? that s right. there are going to be two winners in this conflict in yemen. one is going to be al qaeda which is strengthened by the saudi action that we re supporting so we re enabling the rise and spread of al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, one of the most brutal terrorist groups on the planet. and iran iran will be the other winner. because they will come out of this having supported dialogue diplomacy, humanitarian aid. that s what we always miss about iran. we focus on the armed component of their strategy but the profound benefit of their strategy for iran is the soft power strategy where they politically empower these marginalized groups whether it s the houthis in yemen, the shia in iraq shia in lebanon, the hamas in palestine, that s what they do. they politically empower these groups and that s where they get their real influence. the train has left the station here. iran s influence in yemen is now solid. we ve lost yet again in another battlefield to iran in the soft power arena. in yemen iran has won the soft power argument. and al qaeda s won the military battle there. hillary, hard truth about soft power there from hillary. the good news is both you and christopher helped us understand better but done miserable in - renewing the thank you for helping what s going on. freddie gray suffered what turned out to be a fatal spinal cord injury while in police custody. but how it happened remains a mystery. what can be learned from the autopsy? a forensic expert will sift through what we know and what we don t coming up next. nline. .is as easy as it gets. wouldn t it be great if hiring plumbers carpenters and even piano tuners. were just as simple? thanks to angie s list now it is. start shopping online. .from a list of top rated providers. visit angieslist.com today. nobody told us to expect it. intercourse that s painful due to menopausal 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death of freddie gray the baltimore man who died from severe spine injuries a week after being arrested. baltimore police have only said that gray suffered a tragic injury to his spinal cord but how did that happen? i want to turn to dr. lawrence who is a forensic scientist. good to have you here with us. good morning. there s so much we don t know. and there s so much speculation. but i kind of want to start with the facts of what we do know at this point about the case. sure. mr. gray was arrested on april 12th. he was put into the van by the police after his arrest. and we also know sadly that he died from injury to his spinal cord. now, there s a whole list larry, of things we don t know. when injury happened how it happened and the specific spinal cord injury. when you hear this spinal cord injury what kind of force would it require to hurt him in this way? well it really depends. i think the spinal cord injury was secondary to the fractured vertebrae. okay. these were cervical vertebrae. and there could have been a dislocation. and in fact we don t know exactly when the spinal cord was severed. 80% severed. it could have happened at the same time the vertebrae were fractured, or it could have happened secondarily when he was already in the van. his head his neck was not immobilized, which is what should be done in a neck injury. okay. let s actually pull up. i ve got the video here on the magic wall. and we can show it here for you. again, it s all very gruesome and difficult to watch. when you see this video you re talking about the fact you believe there was some sort of initial trauma that he suffered. well unfortunately we don t have the events that occurred prior to the beginning of this video. he obvious had been taken down. he had been tackled by the police. did you see this part? i mean his head this is so hard to talk about. his head is loling, his legs are dragging this isn t necessarily a suspect trying to resist arrest. it appears there was trauma to the spinal cord. whether or not it had been severed at that point is unclear. would he have been able to talk if it had been severed? would he have been able to breathe? he would have been able to talk. respiration would have been affected by a severed spinal cord depending upon where the damage occurred in the neck. there could have been quad raplegia or paraplegia. here s a wider video. we ll keep going. one of the things we don t understand is when he went into the van he was able to breathe. he was talking. he was moving. but he was not walking without help. when he came out of the van he was not talking and he was not breathing. and that s why i raise the possibility that while he was in the van his neck had not been immobilized. the van could have jolted or he could have rotated his head or hyperextended his head. it wouldn t take much at that point after that initial trauma? i don t think so. we really need to know what the damaged vertebrae looked like. and we won t know that until we see x-rays and autopsy results. that is expected later today. correct. it will fill in a lot of the blanks or all of the blanks for you? it will fill in some of the blanks but it will not really describe when the initial injury occurred. that s something that will remain a mystery unless the investigation reveals more information. okay. so we know that the injury was to his spinal cord. obviously we re looking at an x-ray sort of vision. we re not seeing the skin. would there have been external bruising? not necessarily. but the damage would have been in this region right over here. okay. right around here? right around here. we don t know which vertebrae were affected. but an injury to the cervical vertebrae could result in problems going down the spinal cord. oh it would affect the legs. absolutely. an injury here would have affected the legs here. clearly, yes. that s interesting. freddie gray s family has said that he had surgery for three fractured neck vertebrae and a crushed voicebox. so the crushed voicebox would be in the front. yes. this is still a little bit mysterious. again, the possibility is that when he was tackled, the weight of the police officer and his own weight causing an impact to the neck could explain most if not all of those observations. i want to go back to this timeline. i ll run through it very briefly. we know at 8:39 gray was arrested. he runs from the police officers is arrested a minute later. at 8:42 they call for a prisoner transport. we see the video there. he was able to talk and was breathing at this time. 8:54 there s a lot of questions about this additional restraints were put on mr. gray. we don t know for what reason and how they were put on him. but then fast forward it s all of this time here. all of this time here. 9:24 an ambulance is called to the police station for mr. gray. this is the time larry, that we don t know anything about. that s correct. but as you pointed out, the restraints were put on at 8:54. the restraint that should have been put on is a neck brace of some sort. interesting. this is a total unknown, but i do think it s possible that the cord sustained further injury in the van. that s a possibility. he was talking, so i don t know what this means about a crushed larynx. it s not necessarily consistent with what we re hearing. doctor always a pleasure. as hard as it is to walk through this stuff it s important to get your scientific perception on this. we know it s early in the 2016 game for president, but we already know one thing for sure and you should care about it. this race is going to be all about the money more than ever. and don t let any candidate tell you they want to change the game because the proof is in the pudding. our political panel breaks down just how much money s expected to come in and who is fueling the fire. ahead. now? can i at least put my shoes on? if your bladder is calling the shots . you may have a medical condition called 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.and takes the wheel right from your very hands. .this isn t that car. the first and only car with direct adaptive steering. the 328 horsepower q50 from infiniti. more demonstrations planned today outside the baltimore police department to protest the death of freddie gray who suffered severe spinal cord injury while in police custody. the police finally releasing the names of the six officers suspended with pay following gray s arrest. four are relatively new to the force, two have more than a decade of expeeshsrienceexperience. the justice department launching a civil investigation. afghan taliban launching attacks. spokesman announcing a spring offensive what it calls foreign occupiers at a time when u.s.-led forces are pulling back from the front lines. it will also be the first time afghan security forces won t have the full support of nato combat forces. the senate as early as tomorrow may finally vote on the confirmation of loretta lynch as attorney general. more than five months after she was nominated by the president. now, majority leader mitch mcconnell says a bipartisan deal on an unrelated human trafficking bill which again has absolutely nothing to do with lynch and has been twist sbood a tool for petty politics nevertheless that deal clears the way for the lynch vote despite broad based and bipartisan approval for lynch, she s waited longer for confirmation. if confirmed lynch would be the first african-american female to hold the post. here s some heart pounding video to show you. this is out of washington, d.c. look at this. a man in a wheelchair rolls off the platform falling on to the subway tracks. this happened tuesday afternoon. bystanders rushed to help him. the victim was unable to move. fortunately, they are able to pull him to safety. they lifted his wheelchair and immediately alerted authorities. the man was taken to the hospital. he is expected to be okay. we re happy to report. we ve seen strollers and wheelchairs happen. could they not put just an ever so slight lip? no because they re afraid of people tripping as they get into the train. and then people stuck between the trains. yeah because i guess they can t be flush. they say the question is moving back the entire cue. you know you see that line there nobody observes? yeah. that would help if you had some kind of semblance of order like you do in london. wasn t he behind this man s in a wheelchair. who knows went out of control with his brake or whatever and allowed him to roll. but i have to tell you this is the show of the uncheery kicker. this is nice. people came to this man s aid. a kind of squirrel on a surfboard. i m going to find a cat playing a trombone. this is a near death kicker. all right. alison kosik, save us with some business news. this isn t the greatest news but what the cdc is saying with this outbreak of listeria and blue bell ice cream, they re saying it s been going on since 2010. this week blue bell recalled every product sold in 23 states because of the potential health risk. this year three people have died and ten others have gotten sick from the bacteria. so this is interesting, prosecutoring are pinning the 2010 flash craft on one guy, a stock trader in the uk. the 37-year-old was arrested for causing the chaos on may 6th when the dow fell 600 points in a matter of minutes. he s accused of flooding the market with big orders and making $9 million as the market fell and rebounded. okay so gas is cheap, down more than a dollar from this time last year. but for some reason people are ditching their hybrids and electric cars opting for suvs. so far this year only 45% of people trading in a hybrid bought another one. the silver lining here is that new suvs are becoming more fuel efficient. the little bit of ironic twist i bring you on this day though is that it s earth day. happy earth day everybody. they re trading in their hybrids for sort of gas guzzlers. on earth day, that is an interesting proposition. thanks 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tripadvisor orlando tripadvisor not only has millions of real travelers reviews and opinions but checks hundreds of websites so people can get the best hotel prices to plan, compare and book the perfect trip visit tripadvisor.com today all right. let s talk money. the 2016 presidential election will likely be the most expensive ever. next week hillary clinton will hold five fundraisers in just two days. jeb bush has already had 47 fundraisers. that s a lot of rubber chicken. that s a lot considering he hasn t gotten into the race. true. that s just been since january. so let s look at all the money pouring into this election. the keyword there is pac. let s get some perspective. cnn political commentator ryan lizzo. great to have you both here. when we say expensive it s really expensive for the voters right? ryan the most expensive ever. yeah. the rules is all about legal money. that s the problem. is there any way to qualify the corruption of the system? you re not going to fix this system unless you have a constitutional amendment, right? the supreme court has said that the supreme court set up these new rules. citizens united unless you have a better case. right. so you have these outside groups now. if i m a candidate running for president, i can go to you and get whatever it is $2,700. i ve got to raise $2,700 from as many people as possible. if i m a super pac i can go to you and get as much as you want to give me $1 million. everything is now flowing to these outside super pacs because they can raise money in unlimited amounts. so you re seeing the campaigns now outsource all of their internal polling and tv ads now to these new super pacs. that s the big development in 2016. the idea these are outside groups. if you look at it right now, jeb bush has not declared he s a candidate. so he has his outside group, which is the right to rise super pac. he can show up at the events and raise money until he declares. this weekend, sunday monday he s going to be in miami with some of the biggest donors for the right to rise super pac. they re going to give their donations, they re going to meet his campaign staff. but when he actually announces, they re going to have to sever ties. which gets into the issue of this system sever. you have to do this sara. jeb is probably going to have his most trusted adviser run the super pac. the supreme court says you can t coordinate. so jeb can t talk to his super pac once they get it set up. so you have the smoke and mirrors in the pre-process and then you separate the two groups. i remember the last two presidential elections, the astronomical number of what it costs makes you physically sick. billions. right. and the idea this one is going to be more what is the estimate for this one? well i think these numbers are always wrong, but for hillary clinton they re saying with the outside groups and her own campaign $2 to $3 billion, with a b, for the primaries and general election if she makes it that far. when we talk about astronomical money here at the end of the campaign in 2012 they were just calling state director state director in ohio what do you need? because they over fund raised? they had all the money they kind of needed at that point. there s no restriction. there s only a certain amount of air time you can buy. when you ve bought all the field time do you need to add your staff, do you need more interns. given that can they dial it back a little? the plan for both hillary clinton and to a lesser extent jeb bush is to overwhelm any potential candidates and make sure you don t have any competition. look at dr. ben carson, sure not your big headliner, may not come in and steal an election but that s what it used to be about is divergent opinions coming in and testing you as the big dog in the raise. now they all say the same thing, i got to see if i can get the money. to play devil s advocate one thing the super pacs allow you to do if you re an obscure candidate with a billionaire backer in the old days george w. bush could come in and raise money from individual people and clear the field. now you can set up a super pac who can keep your campaign going longer than it would have been in the old days. apparently you need the billionaire. that s the insult to the process here as the word everyday american is now being injected back and everybody saying everyday american now taking us back into the 50s of that type of exploiting of the middle class. but it s not about everyday americans, is it? it s all about how much money you can raise. i think it depends what side of the aisle you re on on that. yes, you need to raise a lot of money. but i think if you re hillary clinton you want to be able to bring in the small donations too because barack obama did it. and you want to be able to prove you re a candidate of the people. i think on the republican side they haven t put as much effort into this they haven t put as much focus into this. and for the rest of the field if your name is not jeb bush they do they say, look we might not have as many guys that can bring in $50,000 each but what we have is a billionaire. presidential hopeful ted cruz really hit on this. he talked about this having to constantly fund raise, let me read to you what he said. i told my 6-year-old daughter running for office is real simple you just surgically disconnect your shame sensor because you spend every day asking people for money. you walk up and say, how are you doing, sir, can i have money, great to see you, lovely shirt, please give me money. that s what running for office is like. has anything more poetic ever been said? it s a long way from schoolhouse rock in terms of teaching kids about our democracy. that i think, to your point of what s corrupting about this is if you were a politician and you have to spend all your time with this sort of class of multimillionaires and billionaires, that is corrupting to your view of the world. that changes your sense of what issues are really important. when these guys go to say the koch brother conference to try to win their support, they have issues like anyone else but not necessarily the top issues on the minds of american people. when you go to one of the billionaires in las vegas, he has a set of narrow issues that are not the ones the american people are talking about. i think that s as much as the money that is what is corrupting. most fundamental test of leadership sara is you go first on tough situations. do you think we ll hear anybody come out and say i m not going to raise the money like all these other people i m not going to play this game with these super pacs i m going to be about you and coming to you. i would be beyond shocked if you saw anyone do that. i think that you will see people say, look we don t like the system we don t like the super pacs. we have to play by the rules that everyone else is playing by. nobody wants to be the person who can t raise money. so i think you re going to see them all do the same thing even if they say they have to hold their nose and do it. ryan sara thank you. we ll talk to you again in 566 days. the big story and there are a lot this morning. let s get right to the news. the justice department has now launched a civil rights investigation. what was he arrested for? that is unclear to me. saudi arabia is ending its air campaign inside yemen. i don t understand what s going on. the u.s. warships now yemen watching for arm shipments for iran. daily hundreds and hundreds of migrants arriving. the italian authorities struggling to deal with them. these migrants are coming from failed states countries simply under nobody s control. ten doctors are accused oz of promoting what they call quack treatments. he will not be silenced. we will not give in. he s not practicing medicine he s bring novel ideas. this is new day with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. spring morning looking out over new york there. good morning everyone. welcome back to your new day. there is anger stilling over in baltimore this morning. the first major demonstrations over the death of freddie gray who died of spinal injuries one week after being taken into police custody. with no answers, protesters took their message to the steps of city hall and baltimore police headquarters. those police are now releasing the names of the six officers suspended with pay. the justice department is jumping in with a civil rights investigation. so let s begin our coverage in baltimore with cnn s suzanne malveaux. suzanne. reporter: well chris, i was at that protest last night where i saw freddie gray s mother collapse with grief, where we saw the brother there screaming for justice. well we expect the family members, protesters those in the community to be here at city hall tomorrow to demand answers. it has been ten days now since freddie gray was taken into police custody. and three days since he died. and we still have very little information. the voices of demonstrators united making their point clear. baltimore is fed up. the baltimore police department lined with barricades and officers protesters standing firm with their demand for justice. how do you take a man, put him in handcuffs and give him as you want to hurt him dead. we hear the frustration of the community. we hear the angst and the hurt in the gray family. and we have an obligation to make sure that we are as open and transparent with this investigation as we can be. reporter: freddie gray s mother shielding her face overcome with grief tuesday, still unable to lay her son to rest. police have yet to turn over his body. the family plans to conduct a second private autopsy. the baltimore sun quoting the family as saying before he died gray underwent surgery for three fractured vertebrae in his neck and a crushed larynx. i don t know at what point mr. gray suffered the traumatic and fatal injuries. i don t know. but i m determined to get to the bottom of it. reporter: the department of justice says it s now launching their own probe to determine if any civil rights were violated. and this week baltimore police department releasing the names of all six officers who were directly involved if the april 12th arrest. five men and one woman, their ages ranging from 25 to 45 four of them relatively new to the force, the other two have at least 15 years of experience with the department. all six suspended with pay. authorities stressing that the actions taken against them in no way implies any wrongdoing in the arrest. the baltimore police department promises to wrap up their investigation by next friday. now, today is the day that investigators will start to interview those involved in the arrest. in the meantime the mayor says she is pushing the governor to release the body of freddie gray to the family as quickly as possible. chris. all right, suzanne. let s talk about political action here. we want to bring in mary washington a maryland house delegate representing baltimore. and mr. charles sid ner, also a american house delegate representing baltimore county. thank you to both of you. does it seem obvious to you that the police the baltimore police for good or bad, right or wrong, should not be leading the investigation into this situation? that it seems to be causing unnecessary delay and outrage among your constituents ms. washington? good morning. and thank you so much for covering the stories. and i want to extend my sympathies and our deep sorrow to the family of freddie gray and to all the family who is are bearing the burden of excessive police force in our country, across our state and our country. we as the house of delegates and members of the house of delegates in the senate have been trying to pass legislation that would reform what is called the law enforcement officer s bill of rights which actually provides special rights to police officers. and in fact gets in the way or delays the investigations. under maryland law, which is one of the strongest in the country or the most restrictive in the country, a supervisor cannot even interview an officer that is accused of misconduct. right. and then also additionally right. until ten days. right. because there s a union contract. there s no question there s an impediment. but under the existing laws certainly the governor has the ability to appoint an independent review and create the transparency that everybody says they want but seems to be in short supply here. good morning as well. you re correct, unfortunately. it s my understanding that our governor has punted and said that he s going to wait and see what happens here locally in baltimore. i believe that perception is reality. and if the people perceive that unfairness is occurring, then i think it will be in everyone s best interest if our governor would appoint a special investigation to look into this. legislators have similar authorities though. obviously you re the equivalent of the representatives of that state. you have the second chamber within your legislature as well. but you have the ability to say we need an outside review here. if you listen to the captain last night, we just played his sound in the piece there. i want to play it again because i think it really captures what the frustration is here right or wrong, about the process. listen to it please. we re going to follow the facts where they go. the deputy commissioner said no force was used. all of the evidence that we have at this time indicates that there was no force used. there was no bruising there was no indication of any sort of broken bones. however, that investigation is still ongoing. now, when you hear the captain saying let s assume everything he s saying is in good faith and true it doesn t hold with the citizens because of the obvious nature of how mr. gray looked when they were dragging him into that van. and unless they re lying about the autopsy, about the injuries that he had, ms. washington. it can t be that nothing happen today him. it can t be that there s no evidence. absolutely. right. and all communities should feel that we have the trust and respect of law enforcement and to be able to ensure that they re going to protect and serve. and absolutely we ve been relentless decade after decade in calling for changes and reform and police accountability. look until the community has an active role in being able to be able to participate and discipline to be able to directly participate in interview and we need to close the amount of time that is needed between an officer being able between an incident and when a supervisor is able to actually talk to an officer. all of these are changes that not only have to happen in maryland but are being called for across the country. uh-huh. now, baltimore is not ferguson missouri. i know a lot of people bring that up because of the incident and sparking of outrage. i don t think that s fair. every situation has to be judged on its own merits. but we did see one parallel delay is a problem. justice delayed is justice denied. no matter what the findings are. and that s the one concern here. of course there s a big history with baltimore. of course it s very involved on many levels culturally. but don t you think the time to act has to be now? that you can t say it will it will it will. it has to be now, mr. sidner. no the time to act is now. what we have to ensure is that freddie gray what has happened there is a crisis. we have to ensure that what happens in this investigation ensures that there are no more freddie grays. the time is now. the nation the city the people in these communities who are voicing their concern, their right to protest in the streets every day who are committed to ensuring that justice is served not only in this instance but that it is used as a catalyst to ensure that legislation is moved across the state, across the country. and i welcome we welcome the federal investigation. but the federal investigation, miss washington sorry to interrupt you. but mr.sid ner, the federal investigation is a very different and very high barre. that s going to go to the culture of policing that s going to whatever was done as a crime based on mr. gray s race. that s a very high barre and often sets people up for disappointment. the question is what can you do be doing right now. right or wrong it may come out that this is an unfortunate circumstance where it winds up being no one s fault criminally in terms of responsibility. how do you speed up this process as it all stands now? well i ll tell you what we have done in the general assembly this past year. we passed a bill house bill 533, which would enable the police departments across the state of maryland to have body cameras. now, i m not saying that body cameras will be the end all, be all to stop the deaths of future freddie grays, but what i m saying is it would provide a lot more information to these types of incidents and the engagements between citizens and police officers than what we have currently today. and we know that it s a pilot program. i m looking for that governor to sign that legislation because the legislation is emergency legislation which will go in effect immediately. well we will look into that. we re going to keep covering this situation. ms. washington a final thought please. well again, the final thought is that our communities are continuing to engage we must stay vigilant on this. and be very clear that this is not simply about a particular case. it is about the institution of policing and ensuring that we as citizens are a part of that. that there are direct relationships between misconduct the ability of police chiefs to be able to exercise discipline the ability of communities to actually be a part of the governance and the management and how police forces are operating in our cities. understood. and our states. and that is really the only true solution is to make sure that the people who are being policed are a part of ensuring the public safety. understood. and thank you to both of you for being on new day this morning. we will speak again. alisyn. okay chris. more news to report this morning. saudi arabia launching new air strikes against houthi rebels in yemen just hours after claiming to have ended them. saudi arabia says they want to focus on a political solution to the crisis. cnn s becky anderson is live in abu dhabi with the very latest. seems like the message out of saudi arabia is confusing, becky. reporter: yes. they didn t use the phrase mission accomplished but the saudi defense spokesman did say that the military goals of the air operation have been achieved. now, operation decisive storm, they say, has succeeded in destroying houthi military capabilities and protecting the kingdom from any potential attack. so it seems that confident it s time to shift the confidence to finding a political solution with what s being called operation restoring hope. the reality on the ground i think, alisyn is much less clear. as you rightly point out overnight reports of air strike no official line why but they have clearly failed to entirely push back the houthis from the capital nor have they been completely defeated in aden. and into the vacuum al qaeda affiliates in yemen have strengthened. why terminate this military campaign now? it s where it s slightly nuanced i think. first the entire month-long effort has drawn intense criticism even in washington for causing civilian casualties and destroying infrastructure in what is the poorest arab country in the arab world. so continuing that policy wasn t sustainable. secondly sources i ve been speaking to say the houthis despite their public posturing have indicated they ll abide by the demands of a cease-fire and return to the negotiating table. so some thanks from the, quote, legitimate yemen president last night in a speech. we will have to see though what happens next on the ground because clearly things are ongoing, michaela. becky, we thank you for that mpkts meanwhile on the ocean a show of american force on the high seas. u.s. warships patrolling the gulf of aden and what president obama says is a clear and direct message to iran against sending arms to those houthi rebels in yemen. cnn s michelle kosinski is following this live from the white house. reporter: it s interesting the way the white house has been framing this. they won t even say what exactly would happen what the u.s. would do if say today along comes an iranian ship bearing arms for the houthis. the white house says they don t want to speculate about it but they ve been repeating over and over again almost like a mantra maybe more than a dozen times in the briefing yesterday that the mission of u.s. ships in the region is to protect the free flow of navigation and commerce. but they also said that the international community is resolute as they put it in enforcing a new u.n. security council resolution barring the transfer of weapons to the houthis and that the u.s. stands shoulder-to-shoulder in that mission. so making it very clear that this is going to be enforced. here s president obama on the situation. what we ve said to them is is that if there are weapons delivered to factions within yemen that could threaten navigation that s a problem. and we re not sending them obscure messages. we send them very direct messages about it. reporter: and the white house also isn t saying exactly how they re conveying this message to the iranians but they say it s very clear and that iran needs to be part of the solution. chris. all right, michelle thank you very much. we re also following breaking news. eight days that s how long some of these surviving migrants lasted in the mediterranean sea after their boat capsized. they were returned to land this morning. and these survivors and aid workers are telling cnn that it was just a horror for them but they survived. it appears the ship set sail from egypt. after that migrants were put on six different ships from one gang of traffickers to another. they were finally rescued by the italian navy. this comes in the wake of another ship wreck believed to have killed 800 migrants. the volunteer tulsa deputy who shot an unarmed man in that sting operation has pleaded not guilty. and now he s headed to the bahamas. a judge ordered robert bates to return to court on july 2nd but first approved his vacation his request i should say to go on a month-long vacation. the trip drawing an angry response from the victim s family saying his decision to go on vacation simply sends a message of apathy. actor ben affleck says he regrets trying to keep his family s slave owning past from being broadcast calling the discovery embarrassing. he posted quite a long lengthy post on facebook acknowledging he successfully lobbied the producer of roots to keep that information. some are calling it a cover-up. it was uncovered in e-mails that were revealed during the sony hack. isn t that so interesting? interesting how? what do you think? i think it s so interesting that generations later, he s not responsible, but he feels guilt and shame enough to cover it up. do you think he s responsible for the cover-up? yeah. i mean in a bad way. i think cover-up is such an egregious word. it s an embarrassment. it s hard for him to reconcile the fact he had ancestors because he s clearly not that guy. and to say it s a cover-up i think is overusage of the term. i think we still feel shame about people we didn t even know did in our bloodline. that s your blood, right? i know. that would be first of all, anderson cooper did the same thing on the same program. and he had similar embarrassments come up in his past and he let them air, or in part let anderson speak for himself, but often say don t sanitize the past. that s how you want to remind it. my point is look i have a dog in this fight to be sure but i think calling it a cover-up i think it would be an embarrassment, horrifying to know it was in your background. do i support he did it? i understand why, but do i support, i don t know. the larger cause, he s coming out now. but it s after he was caught doing it. that s a tough one. let us know what you think. we d love to hear from you on twitter. meanwhile, yemen is in turmoil and iran is partly responsible, but the white house has been hesitant to engage iran on the issue. is the administration afraid that the nuclear deal with iran would fall apart if they do? answers from the white house next. we will not be silenced that s coming from dr. oz vowing to keep working for healthier country despite accusations that he s a fraud. he mounted his own defense on tv. and we ll let you take a look at it. wow. sweet new subaru, huh mitch? yep. you re selling the mitchmobile!? man, we had a lot of good times in this baby. what s your dad want for it? ..like a hundred and 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let s bring in white house communications director jen psaki. jen, how does good morning. how does that title sound to you? white house communications director. it s pretty exciting. it s great to be back at the white house. and obviously it s a beautiful day here. so looking forward to you know engaging over the next year and a half. well congratulations on your new position. thank you. it s great to have you there. so honeymoon over. let s get to all of the tense topics. i thought it would be short, alisyn but go ahead. just a few seconds. all right. we need to talk about what s going on in yemen and what saudi arabia has put out this statement that frankly seems hard to believe this morning. i mean they put it out with their partners including the u.s. and basically they are saying mission accomplished in yemen. they re saying they ve accomplished all of their military objectives. how can that be true when we see the chaos on the ground in yemen? well, alisyn i think there s a few important things to remember. one is that we support our saudi partners. two, is that there s broad agreement that there s not a military solution here. we re really focused on bringing the parties together. it s a u.n.-led process. that s wa we feel is the right step. that s what our partners around the world feels the right step and that s where we want to put our energies at this point. there s no question saudi arabia is in the region they re in the area they re worried about their own security. of course we ve supported them with their actions. but again we re trying to redirect this to a political discussion here. sure. but let me show you what they say in their statement that where they claim to have achieved their objectives because i just want your thoughts on this. here s what they put out in this statement. that they believe they have prevented a takeover by the houthis and that they have protected yemen, they said. that they ve protected their neighbors countries, they ve neutralized the houthi military they ve prevented the flow of weapons they say into the rebels. and they ve protected yemen s government. jen, just going through these one by one, preventing the flow of weapons in? just yet we were reporting on how the iranians were sending a ship load of possibly weapons to the houthi rebels. how can you be making these claims today? well and we have our own resources in the region for a reason alisyn as you know. i ll also say though look there s plenty on my plate and the plate of the white house and we re not going to get into a pattern of speaking on behalf of saudi arabia. obviously the job is not done. there s remaining instability in the region in yemen. there s a lot of work that needs to be done. and we re going to be doubling down and continuing to work on that with our partners around the world. what makes you think there can be a diplomatic solution there? well there s no other solution that s going to work. and this is a case where obviously there s a great deal of instability that s increased over the last couple of weeks even months that we ve all been watching closely including cnn. and the fact is that we need all of the parties, all of the factions in the country to come together. obviously the destabilizeing activities of the houthis, their actions are unacceptable. you ve seen the u.n. actions over the past couple of days. but this is not a war that can be fought on the battlefield. this is one that we need the parties to come together. the u.n. has been very persistent in their process and we re continuing to support that. given the news about iran possibly supplying weapons to the houthi rebels does it make you rethink the dealings with iran in the nuclear negotiations that we re starting up again this week? no, alisyn. i think it s important for people to remember what the goal of the nuclear negotiations is and continues to be which is preventing iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon. that is good for the region. it s good for our gulf partners. it s good for the united states. it doesn t mean we re giving rubber stamp approval to their other actions. they continue to be a human rights violator they continue to hold american citizens in their own country. there are still a number of issues that we have with iran. but there s no question preventing them from acquiring a nuclear weapon not just the united states but countries in the region as well. we re going to continue to work toward that at the end of june. jen, i want to move on to the trade deal. the asia pacific trade deal that president obama is pushing. because it s getting a lot of criticism even from members of the president s own party, from fellow democrats. let me play for you what senator harry reid said about this trade bill. you couldn t find a person to ask this question who feels more negatively about it than i do. the answer is not only no but hell no. it s hard to put a finer point on it than he did. he said hell no he feels so negatively about it. how can the president feel positively about it? well first, the president understands that trade agreements in the history of trade agreements like nafta that wasn t enforceable, that didn t have labor and environmental protections has left a bad taste in the mouth of some workers and some democrats. but the fact is this is a trade agreement that does have strong labor enforcement mechanism, that does have strong environmental standards, it s the most progressive trade agreement we ve ever worked on. and if we don t pursue this trade agreement with the tpp, and we need tpa in order to do that then what we re doing is allowing china to make the rules, to set the rules. that certainly is not in the interest of american workers. jen, we also want your thoughts and the president s thoughts on what s going on in baltimore. more than 1,000 people turned out because of the anger and frustration over the death of freddie gray. it s mysterious what happened to him. police have not been providing answers. in the past when there have been some police situations the president has spoken out about it. will the president speak out about the death of freddie gray? well first, alisyn let me say the president as you noted has spoken out about this on a number of occasions. i will say he s done a number of interviews and press conferences recently where he hasn t been asked either. but this is an issue we re also working hard behind the scenes. as you know there s a task force, doj announced an investigation they ll be doing. there are a lot of details we don t know here. and the fact is we ve also taken action by putting money in our budget for body cameras. the positive aspect here if there is one and this is a small sliver is because the media s talking about this, people are talking about. this this is an issue that people in communities across the country are aware of. fortunately in most cities most towns, there are relationships, strong relationships between the communities and the police forces. there are some cases where that is not the case. and that s something we need to continue to work on. but i can promise you this is an issue the president s working on every single day. and off camera what is the president saying about this case? well i think any time you see an individual who has lost their life or who s been injured where you don t know the details, your heart goes out to their family. you can as a father as he is as a brother as he is as a cousin as he is look at a situation and not feel for the family and not want to get to the bottom of what s happening. as you know doj has said they re going to be doing an investigation. and obviously we ll be working with law enforcement authorities around the country on issues like this. okay. jen psaki, great to see you. happy earth day. great to see you, alisyn. thank you. you too. she even wore green for earth day. still ahead the impact of the crisis in yemen is not limited to only that country. could nuclear talks with iran fall apart over differences on how to deal with the issue? we re going to debate from both sides of the aisle next. when salesman alan ames books his room at laquinta.com, he gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready. so he knows exactly when he can check in and power up before his big meeting. and when alan gets all powered up, ya know what happens? 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an opportunity to debate this authorize military force against isis hasn t taken those opportunities yet. is it going to change? let s discuss with members of congress themselves. adam schiff, ranking democrat on the house intelligence committee, and congressman tom cole deputy majority wip for the republicans. gentlemen, thank you for being with us on new day this morning. i see you are each adorned in the tie color of the opposite party. let s assume that means there is some type of equity going to be here this morning, some kind of joining. let s start with the beginning which is the authorization of use of force. why, i ll start with you congressman schiff why hasn t there been a vote yet? why isn t this happening when obviously the strategy is not settled and not working? well, i don t know how to explain it except that we have a convergence of interest for a long time the administration a position that didn t need it necessarily want to force this issue on congress. it has now proposed a draft but at the same time there are many in congress that don t want to vote on this in case things go badly. none of that is an adequate answer though. this is our constitutional role. the constitution gives us power to declare war. if we don t live up to that responsibility now, we set a very dangerous precedent in the future that i think presidents can make war with or without the blessing of congress. deputy majority wip, why don t you shame your members into taking responsibility? if they want to criticize they should debate and vote as well. well you know, the process in some ways has begun. we have had hearings. but i agree with you. and i very much agree with my friend adam. the administration initially didn t want this. quite frankly democratic leaders didn t want to vote on it before an election. concern the president s proposed resolution for the authorization of use of force is strong enough. so i get all this but i think adam makes the right point. at the end constitutional authority s like a muscle. you either use it or lose it. and frankly congress is in danger of using war making authority if it doesn t act. and, look this has been going on for a long time. but we re also dealing with it right now. and a little bit of the irony here representative schiff is that when it comes to making the deal with iran you could very well argue that the president has unilateral executive authority there. and yet congress is getting involved. but they won t get involved on the bigger issue on the use of military force overall. let s shift to what s going on with iran and that situation. as we look at the talks, as they restart today, do you believe the u.s. has been sucker sbood these talks on nukes with iran while iran is also running rough shaud anywhere else in the world. i don t think the u.s. has been suckered into talks. i think the administration as well as iran tried to compartmentalize the talks so that other very strident and important differences don t prevent us from seeing whether a deal is possible that does away with iran s nuclear weapons program. now, that remains to be seen. there s still significant differences left. we may or may not have a deal but the fact is even if there is a deal it s not going to stop the fact that we have to confront iran s interest to be a hedge monoin the region, malicious efforts in regions like yemen as well as syria and other places in the region. so this isn t going to be the end with this confrontation in the water. and i don t think it s going to be the end even if there s an agreement on the nuclear issue. representative cole the saudis said on behalf of them and their partners that means you guys the united states government that operation decisive storm has achieved its goals. and they outline these five points of what they were trying to get done in yemen. they say they did it. it s almost a laughable assertion given the situation in yemen. why is the united states being party to what s beginning on with saudi arabia there? do you think it s the best move for your national interests? well first of all we re not their only partner. but you are a partner. we are a partner. i think they have a great deal of mistrust in the united states simply because of the iranian negotiation. i was recently there and dealt with senior saudi officials literally two or three weeks ago as this yemen operation was beginning. but their most reliable partners are the other sunni states, the egyptians egyptians, gulf states, uae are all there with them. we need to be there as well. frankly, i think this is a case where the iranians are overreaching. i think they re causing a great deal of trouble in yemen. this is a place the president called a success story a few months ago and now we ve had to leave with our tail between our legs. i think checking iranian aggression is the right thing to do work with our allies. frankly, i hope we continue our aggressive posture. although represent cole is kind of arguing the president s case here a little bit, how do you see this as an aggressive posture, congressman schiff? the houthis are running all over yemen. whether or not the iranians are supporting them with arms we don t even know. we haven t heard what gives you that intelligence in goth government. how does the u.s. look strong in yemen right now? look i m confident of the intelligence that iran has been providing weapons as well as military advice and support to the houthis notwithstanding iranian claims to the contrary. and i think it s important as my colleague says that we have the saudis back that we support them through intelligence logistics and with this show of force in the region in terms of our naval presence. that doesn t mean that we want to necessarily participate in air strikes or have our own ground troops there. i don t think that would be productive. and i don t think that s what the saudis want either. but i do think it s vitally important that we show the gulf states that we re willing to stand up to iran and their malicious actions in the region whether there s a nuclear negotiation going on or not. last question when do both of you think there will be a debate and vote on the aumf? i don t have a precise day. i just think sooner is better. i think we need to begin the process in a sense it already has begun. we ve had hearings in the appropriate committee, but i think you just work through a schedule and let congress work its will. i think we could come to a consensus. but, again, if we don t do this we re essentially sus seeding authority to the executive branch. that s not bad with this president, it s frankly bad with any president. something congress shouldn t do and the next president will decide this as a precedent. tom cole, adam schiff thank you for you both being on new day. we look forward to seeing action. thanks chris. alisyn. tv s dr. oz is fighting back against critics accusing him of quack medicine. what is dr. oz saying? ahh, nothing like the peace and quiet of a beach escape. funny, there was no mention of hail in the weather report. will you help us find a house for you and your brother? woooooah you re not just looking for a house. you re looking for a place for your life to happen. zillow this month we celebrate my 1,000th show. i know i ve irritated some potential allies in our quest to make america healthy. the matter are disagreements, freedom of speech is the most fundamental right we have as americans. and these ten doctors are trying to silence that right. so i vow to you right here right now, we will not be silenced we will not give in. that clip is from dr. oz who plans to address his critics during a special episode of his talk show tomorrow. he is fighting back against a group of ten doctors as you heard him say who are calling for him to lose his position at columbia university s medical school over claims he promotes quack treatments. joining us senior media correspondent for cnn and host of reliable sources. interesting i find you and i both watched that very raply. it s interesting he decides to take the attack of free speech. instead of taking on the arguments and criticism of those ten doctors, he talks about the free speech aspect. and the first thing i should say is freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism. right, absolutely. people are open to criticism. and dr. oz especially because he has produced so many episodes of his show talked about so many different elements of medicine and science and health. there are obviously some episodes that he probably has some regrets about. i think he would say that privately. i don t think he d say that publicly but maybe privately he would say we went too far in those cases. but he thinks he has a strong stance on this issue about ten doctors because they were going after him partly art gmos genetically modified foods. his position on gmos is he says he s not opposed to them but thinks you should know what is in your food. which is fair to say. it s interesting he talks about free speech the ten doctors could say the same thing, we are allowed to be critical and free speech advocates in our own right. right. i also am curious about this idea of what he s going to do tomorrow. what have you been hearing from people? and what do you think the tact is going to be? it s a daytime talk show very happy of the day, usually light hearted format in the middle of the day. if you re watching him, you probably already trust him. that s why you re watching him. you re preaching to the choir. that s exactly it. and yet he s decided he s going to spend about two-thirds of his show on this topic they taped yesterday. it will air tomorrow. maybe it s a coincidence. tomorrow s the beginning of the may sweep season. local tv stations always care about ratings. you think that s a coincidence. maybe it s a coincidence, but it is going to take upmost of the show tomorrow. i think that goes to show he s been under fire for a while now. we saw that you hear it on capitol hill last year and other criticisms more recently he believes with this ten doctors issue he has the higher ground. so it s an opportunity to stand up and defend himself. although it sounds like he s a martyr and a risk of going too far with this. i wonder about that from a crisis management approach i mean he s using what he has. he has air time. he has his own broadcast. he has his own soap box where he can sort of stand and defend himself. do you think it s going to be effective to silence those critic sns. to go after the ten doctors i think in the full episode he ll go at them more directly and point out some of them have ties to industry ties to gmos. are you hearing anymore buzz about that? some doctors do some don t. some of it s murky. so it s hard to say for sure. but certainly over the weekend his team was starting to circulate talking points about five of those ten doctors. so he s going to go in more detail on that and try to make this about how some doctors, some physicians do take money from different groups that have interests in various health and medicine. of course dr. oz has endorsement deals too, so i m not sure his hands are entirely clean. that s the whole thing. does the whole thing pass jour smell test? you have a good gut on these things. does it all pass your smell test? he gets 1.8 million viewers a day on his show. he s highly respected by viewers. you might have a different, i don t know people might look at him differently from the medical community. yeah, for sure. choose my words carefully. but do you think this to use kids words, is it hateration. i think dr. oz has been vulnerable vulnerable. whether these doctors are the best to be speaking out against him, i don t know. but i think he s been vulnerable for a while. he s done almost 1,000 shows. when you have to spend that much time talking about the basics of health and wellness you might go into detours and down you know back alleys that aren t actually the right place to go. great example is the green coffee bean extract. his show later acknowledged they went too far on that one. maybe in other cases that s happened as well. for him it s all about what we get told when we go to the doctor the basics. about eating and working out. and maybe he needs to get back to those basics. maybe that s what needs to happen here. listen we re going to find out on thursday. we ll be watching. let us know what your take is you at home. tweet us use #newday. thanks brian. chris. it s a counting game not suitable for kids. so many f-bombs that is. so much bleeping. cincinnati reds manager brian price unleashing an epic expletive filled tirade on reporters. why would he do such a thing? 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reporter: it has been hard to get to the bottom of exactly what they are saying. the white house made it clear, but the white house is extremely reluctant to spell it out in certain terms, saying they don t want to speculate. 15 times in yesterday s briefing the mission of u.s. ships in that region is to protect the free throw of navigation and commerce and they said the international community is rez hraout, as they put it in enforcing the resolution and that the u.s. stands shoulder to shoulder. here is president obama in that situation. what we have said to them is is that if there are weapons delivered to factions within yemen that could threaten navigation that s a problem. we re not sending them obscure messages but we sent them very direct messages about it. the white house won t say how the messages are transmitted to the iranians only they are making it clear that iran needs to be part of the solution. thanks so much for that. saudi arabia said no more air strikes in yemen because operation storm succeeded, until it did not. and air strikes resumed, and the situation at sea becoming equally precarious as they watch for arm shipments from iran. and how do we make sense of all the latest fred? reporter: well it is very difficult. it certainly shows how iran is trying to compartmentalize its relations with the u.s. you have the nuclear relations, and there are many iranians who have hope, and there s fiery rhetoric and some believe issues like this is still a problem, and i was able to speak to the commander of iran s ground forces who is somebody who almost never speaks to western media and he told me there is still very little trust between the united states and iran. and i have the statement right here. he said, at the moment we consider the united states to be a threat to us because the policies and actions are threatening to us. we would like the u.s. to change its rhetoric and tone of voice so that our nation could have more trust in the u.s. and military leadership and we trust the american people but the tone of the u.s. government and military officials is such that we still consider the u.s. a threat. this is something that you can see a duel way of operating, and on the one hand trying to foster relations on the nuclear agreement and yet very tough on the yemen issue. let s turn to breaking news from france. they foiled an imminent attack on a church. police found a blood trail leading to a man s vehicle where they discovered loaded guns and found more later in his home. that suspect had already been flagged as a security risk last year. 4,000 passengers and crew are relieved to be back on land after their carnival cruise ship was forced to weather a massive storm off the coast of australia. the conditions are being described as once in a decade kind of storm. ivan has more on what they lived through. the passengers on the cruise ship they thought they would come into the port of sidney in australia for the last stop to get off after their vacation and instead that was delayed and they had to ride out the storm aboard the cruise ship out at sea in a situation that one passenger described as a nightmare. horror off the coast of australia. this is the view of over 2,000 passengers stranded on a carnival cruise ship near sidney. the east coast of the country slammed by a once in a decade deadly storm. the waves up to 30 feet high with wind surpassing 60 miles per hour forcing the ship packed with 800 children to stay outside the harbor overnight on tuesday. sidney officials say it was too risky. this is the first time i closed the port and ever refused entry to a cruise ship. passengers back on land wednesday morning describe a nightmare. i have been on a cruise before and i never had this experience in my whole entire life. i was petrified. the carnival company, no stranger to stranded cruise liner. in 2010, splendor was left off the coast of san diego for three days due to an engine fire and in 2013 the triumph held passengers for nearly a week. and this time, the coastline sweeping entire homes off their foundation. is the reason carnival cruise line s advisory president says this delay was unavoidable. the passengers are back safe on tkroeu land but this part of southeastern australia are reeling from the storm, and four people were killed in the last two days and divers in the last few hours recovering the body of an 86-year-old woman whose car was swept away by one of the floods and the top official in new south whales said this storm was much more severe than anticipated. that video is scary. thank you for that. protesters taking to the streets in baltimore demanding answers in the death of freddy gray while in police custody. we have mr. murphy the attorney representing the gray family. we understand more than 1,000 protesters took to the streets last night and his mom and family came out to be part of this but that his mother became overwhelmed. can you tell us what the family s experience was? the family just couldn t take it. the demonstration was welcomed but the emotion overcame them and the mother collapsed. she is okay i am happy to say and it was just overwhelming to her. we can certainly understand that. when we last spoke to you, mr. murphy on monday you said the family had not been given any explanation from the police department of what happened. has that changed? no that has not changed. we are still in the dark about it, and in a way it s understandable because the police sometimes don t want to reveal critical parts of the investigation because it might affect what people say who are also targets or witnesses. i understand that. on the other hand this family has a right to know what happened and at the right time i am sure that the city will provide that information and in the meantime we will conduct our own the federal government will conduct its own, and the state s attorney will conduct her own and we will be watchful as to all of those drove developments and keep the family informed. there are four separate investigations but last night the spokesperson for the baltimore police department came on cnn and what he said about the level of force used has gotten a lot of attention. so let me play that for you. we re going to follow the facts where they go. the deputy commission said no force was used and everything we have now indicates there was no force used however that investigation is still on going. he says all of the evidence they have shows no force was used. you see, that s why we don t have any confidence in the police investigation. first of all, they have no business saying anything like that until the investigation is completed. one critical fact or witness can change the entire picture. they admittedly have not interviewed the six police involved and so this is really an outrageous position for them to be taking at this point. it s utterly premature to make that statement, and we ask them to make no more misleading statements in the investigation, and that destroys public confidence. we know something happened to this young man and the six police officers who have yet to cooperate with the investigation will help us get to the bottom of the investigation, and we are asking one or more to come forward and tell us what happened. go to the state s attorney and make sure your conscience is clear, and make sure that you do what you have asked citizens to do as congress cummings said. when you ask citizens to come forward and solve a crime, you are in not in a different position now. and last night, there was an explanation of why she can t get answers. because of the law enforcement s bill of rights we have yet to fully engage those officers and we have a lot of progress to do and it significantly hampers our ability to bridge the or to repair the relationship with the community and the police when something this tragic happens. basically, she is blaming the law enforcement officers bill of rights for why her office has not been able to get answers and why they are not able to move forward in repairing the relationship with citizens. is that plausible to you? yes. unlike all other states in the union except perhaps a handful, these officers have more rights than ordinary citizens have not to cooperate with the police investigation. there s a 10-day period where they don t have to say anything and they have exercised that right as it were. and that s this case illustrates why that is a bad policy that goes too far. of course police should be treated fairly. of course police should have the rights of ordinary citizens but they should not have more rights and that s what the police bill of rights essentially gives them. this is obstructive to any reasonable investigation. so now that those ten days have elapsed, now will we get answers? well let s wait and see. my crystal ball says no not yet. and that s unfortunate. i wish i had a different prediction and i would be pleasantly surprised to be wrong. mr. william murphy we will talk to you again. thank you so much for being on new day. thank you. chris? an alabama woman believed to have fled to syria to join isis, and we will speak with one of her high school classmates and find out how she wound up in this situation. you re only young once. unless you have a subaru. 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do you remember her talking openly about her religious beliefs at the time? i know that she did wear a haeupblg jaw, and we were one of the most diverse schools so we had a decent amount of islamic students there, so i kind of assumed that there was some degree of religious commitment. i can imagine all of you are struggling to parallel what you have known about the young woman and the images and stories we are hearing now, we were surprised to hear of the secret twitter feed she had, and apparently she had a different handle she used and she was posting a very violent and aggressive message, and i think we might have some of those. americans, wake up go on drive-bys and spill all of their blood. were you surprised about the sentiment here? i was absolutely surprised. when the buzzfeed article broke, i texted some of the people in my graduating class that was much more close to her than i was, and everybody was surprised, and i don t know that anybody that was going on. the buzzfeed article had an extensive interview with her parents or father and they were able to speak with her from inside syria. i imagine some of the conversation also circles around your concern for your friend and acquaintance. obviously you are concerned about what can happen to her over there. yeah it s very concerning and that s why a lot of people especially individuals much closer to her than i are afraid to come out and say things not just for their own safety but a lot of people are very much concerned about the safety of her family and understandably so and we live in a world where dangerous things happen all the time and, yeah it s a tragedy. everything that is being said is being said with a great deal of concern. which i understand. her father expressed concern about backlash the family may or may not experience, and we hope that does not happen. her father also mentioned the buzz article, and he believes she had been brainwashed and radicalized from what she wa seeing on the internet. you know this young woman and know what she was associating with. she had a great life and big family but what would she be enticed by with this message from isis? the way i think about it and as being a millennial somebody who is only a college sophomore, whether we like to admit it or not, people sometimes we are isolated and we keep to ourselves, and we don t necessarily have an identity or maybe we are socially outcast by certain people we will run to anything even extreme groups that will make us feel comfortable at home and have a sense of community, and i think that s really how groups like isis and some of the other terrorists organization overseas are recruiting people from my generation is they are preying on the vulnerable people that will do anything to have people to go to. really interesting perspective to get from you, and you are well spoken, and please pass along our hopes and sentiments and prayers to her family. our thanks to you. absolutely michaela and i appreciate the opportunity. the situation in yemen also in the news this morning. as confusing as it is horrible. operation decisive storm is over and it succeeded, then why are they still using air strikes? 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good morning. our relationship with iran and concerns with iran are in nuclear facets. it s critically important not just to the region but the u.s. security and so we are focused in the negotiations with the negotiating partners to prevent iran from becoming a nuclear weapon state. that s not the end of our concern. we do have concern about iran sponsoring terrorism, and we have concern about iran s human rights concerns and them meddling in other countries, and we don t want to be distracted from letting iran becoming a nuclear weapon power. you are getting resistance from your brothers and sisters in congress. they want the acts of iran to be taken into consideration, and the second problem is there s dissatisfaction built into the negotiations because you are not going to stop them from getting a weapon it s not if they get one, it s just when isn t it? no we are going to prevent them from becoming a nuclear weapon power. how? we are going to do that hopefully through negotiations with our negotiating partners and as the president said all options are on the table. let me just clarify that. we are not at all losing focus on what iran is doing and sponsoring terrorism. we imposed sanctions in regards to iran and terrorism. we don t want to lose the international coalition we have forcing iran to negotiate with us it seems like they are getting what they want at the table and threatening to walk away if they don t, and they have impunity in the rest of the world because they are threatening to walk away from the talks. we will judge that an affective agreement, must prevent iran from having a breakout capacity of having a nuclear weapon state. that s clearly our objectives. we will judge that. as you know there s legislation moving through congress that provides the appropriate role for congressional review. only we can permanently remove those sanctions. we are focussed to make sure we have an affective agreement that prevents iran from becoming a nuclear weapon state. we don t have to go alone in trying to get that done. we have negotiating partners and we are working with them. now, let s come back home senator. what is going on in baltimore, obviously within your state, and you called for a investigation through the attorney general, and dealing with the immediate circumstances, we know that a federal investigation is not going to give quick judgment a quick transparency in the situation. why aren t you pushing the governor to have an independent review body installed immediately to take care of this situation, because you are seeing the same delays that create outrage among your citizens? i want an independent review and want to make sure that not only we have the review by the federal department of justice and that s what we called for, our congressional colleagues from baltimore called for that investigation. that will be an independent investigation. we also want the internal investigations being done in our state of maryland to be independent as well. but they are not. so i agree with that. well i think our states attorney in baltimore is not connected with the police. we don t know what is going on and we know the police are doing it and the reason i say that is the bill of rights passed through the legislature there and its prevision for ten days to get counsel, and it s the ten-day buffer for cops is driving this outrage. and not to say that cops are bad or there is any malice involved in the investigation, but to remove that speculation. that s the lesson of ferguson remove the speculation through transparency. it s not happening here at least not in a way that is being publicly exposed. i agree there needs to be a totally independent investigation. let s get to some of the core problems. that s why i have introduced the end of racial profiling. we have to get a better confidence between the community and law enforcement, and law enforcement only works if the community has confidence they are working on their behalf and that has been put to test in baltimore and other cities around the country and one of the ways to make that happen is to make it clear we are not tolerating racial profiling. we have reintroduced the legislation that will call for the end of profiling by police. there s too many things happening like what happened in baltimore, and we need to wubgork together. good to have you on new day. thank you. what happens to frozen embryos after a couple splits? 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yeah i was willing to do whatever he took he would not have to see the child or have any financial responsibilities nothing. he said no. legally you can t wave child support on behalf of a child. this is complicated ethical territory. who does own the frozen embryos? the courts in the u.s. said again and again that both parties have to control the disposition of embryos, like you are going to freeze them but you can t force the parent. you can t force a parent. there is an exception, if it s the last chance for somebody to reproduce, and if it s their only possibility, then a few courts have said all right if one party is willing we will allow that to happen. it has to be these are the last embryos i can make because of biology, there is no more possibility for me. basically what sofia vergara s ex is saying is he doesn t want to destroy the embryos because of a religious objection he has. he says i have always strongly believed that life begins at fertilization, and every embryo is a life on the journey towards birth. how can somebody force him to do something against his religion if he believes life has begun? the courts don t agree quite with that outlook. ethically i think it s right, they are not equivalent to us in terms of their legal and moral standings. embryos are destroyed. if you don t pay your fees to freeze them they are tossed out. we have done surveys on this and we know it happens. a potential person doesn t have more legal standing. we have the fact specific basis, because vergara says she didn t say she wanted to destroy them she wants to keep them frozen. you can argue what is the practical affect of that and that s their specific case. what is motivating in that case is what you just talked about. what is your take on the idea of an embryo not being a person? i feel the same way. we were discussing it beforehand. i believe an embreeyo is a subject to life. it s the process to create them, and it s generally speaking because you are infer actual. you will not go as far saz say are they are people? i was attached to what they represented and what my future would be. that could change in the courts alisyn. yeah it could. we happened with your embryos. the judge said to the lawyers get a deal because the judge did not want to be responsible for forcing anybody to do anything for forcing parentirhood parenthood on anybody. and at the time i was so beaten up and emotionally gone from being adult-capable decisions and my own lawyer was trying to tell me i didn t want to be a parent with other person, and why would i want to have a life where i would be tied to him, and i ultimately agreed to allow them to be donated to research, but i think in retrospect the judge was a coward an absolute coward. you are an attorney. what advice would you give to couples who are entering into a situation like this? there are thousands of them. well it s really very interesting. i am an attorney and one would think i would know better to sign documents that were not negotiated but when you go through infertility, it s incredibly like i said debilitating, you changed your diet and you are very vulnerable and they put a consent form in front of you and you assume it has been vetted and it covers death and you are not thinking about divorce. yeah you are on the same page then. you want to say let s cover other concontinueteupb contingencies. dementia. you just pay $20,000 to a clinic and yeah and you hope you are never in a situation that you were in but the point is the directive has to be much more clearly spelled out than it has been so far. thank you so much for helping us. great to have you here. thank you. you can tweet us. we would love to hear what you have to say about this. when we come back one bad makeup one monster rock and 2,100 reasons to sell it. oh what a tease. that s the good stuff! only florida s natural can bring you that straight from the grove taste. because florida s natural is the only major orange juice brand that s owned by growers and never imported. we bring that straight from the grove taste from us the orange juice growers. mornin ma am. .to you, the orange juice lovers. and you can taste it in every glass. florida s natural. great taste. naturally! this allergy season, will you be a sound sleeper, or a mouth breather. a mouth breather! well, put on a breathe right strip and shut your mouth. allergy medicines open your nose over time, but add a breathe right strip and pow! it instantly opens your nose up to 38% more. so you can breathe and sleep. add breathe right to your allergy medicine. shut your mouth and sleep right. breathe right and look for the calming scent of breathe right lavender in the sleep aisle. so on new day, we tell you about the bad stuff but we also tell you about the good stuff. there is an engagement gone sour and that s not the good stuff, but what she did with the ring is. the woman, rather than sell the ring she put it up on facebook for the most deserving couple she could find. enter these two. i have been told a few different things you know. i was not going to make it i had two months left and i am still here. that s because josh michaels has been fighting aggressive cancer since 2013 just after he got engaged to laura, and so the anonymous donor gave the ring to them. the wedding is expected soon and the anonymous donor said their story renewed her faith in love. just what they needed just what she needed. time for the newsroom with carol costello. good morning. have a great day. newsroom starts now. how do you take a man and put him in handcuffs and then you want to hurt them dead. as a human being, i don t even do that to my dog. happening now in the news room a brother in anguish, and how did freddy gray s
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[ male announcer ] introducing fiber one 80 calorie chocolate cereal. chocolate. at the top of the show, we asked you, why are you awake? john, what are the answers? two here, james writes, i m up writing my apology letter to bob woodward. and john writes, this cavens kid s got talent. we re going to cue the music. i m going to do my tap dance lesson here in a second. oh, wait. we don t have any time for that? i guess we ll have to do that next time. great show back there in the control room. morning joe starts right now. i guess the republican party feels like that pell grants and food stamps and the faa and home mortgage interest deduction and all this other stuff in the federal government should be shielded, but those who have been fighting the war that protects us all from radical islam should be on the chopping block. ronald reagan should be rolling over in his grave. shame on everybody who agreed this was a good idea on our side. yeah. good morning, everyone. it s sequester day. does anyone know what that means? friday, march 1st. i just felt the earth tilt on its axis. i did. you know what? oh. there it was. i feel the earth move under my feet. i don t know what time it is. does anybody care? look who s here, eugene robinson, john heilemann and richard wolffe. look at this! pulitzer prize-winning columnist from the washington post and political analyst, eugene robinson. and from washington wait a minute. she has been literally do you ever leave the hill, kelly o donnell? seriously. this morning i m in the bureau, but the rest of my life is spent in a very small booth on the hill, yes. a shot of that bureau so people will know you didn t exactly trade up. that s a middle school. it s good to have kelly on board. it was built as a bomb shelter. i think it was. there s that know oneo-stalinis. that s comforting to know. it feels like going home. you know, kelly just said, it s comforting to know it was built as a bomb shelter, because we know, the sequester. yeah. ronald reagan s rolling over in his grave. the russians, al qaeda we should cover that story. the chinese, the head of the red army, they are coming. let s not overcorrect. they are coming. and in the words of mike tyson, they re going to eat our babies. this is going to be very bad. frogs are going to rain down from the sky. i saw that tom cruise movie. magazinolia. this stuff s going to happen. fear and loathing. snakes on a plane. snalocusts descending from t heavens. it is the seventh plague, and lindsey graham let us know, none of us are going to be immune from this pain. thank you, lindsey. let s make it a good one. let s make it a good one! that s everything. the last show. let s go. and kelly o donnell, you re at the bomb shelter. tell my children that i love them. we re sorry, kelly, for him. thank you for being here. good to see you all. reporting from capitol hill where you ve been there 24/7 covering the story. today $85 billion in across-the-board spending cuts hit federal agencies and the pentagon. the two competing plans to avert the sequester failed doomsday budget machine. that s a better name. as was expected, in fact, the democrats plan didn t get a single vote from the republicans across the aisle. although the budget cuts are widespread, the biggest drivers of debt and the economy are largely spared. according to the wall street journal, the government spent over 50% of the federal budget last year on medicare, social security, medicaid and interest on the federal debt. but the entitlement programs are almost completely untouched by the new cuts. the number of americans who receive social security retirement benefits is expected to grow 40% over the next decade. in just three years, the social security disability trust fund is forecast to burn through its reserves. and medicare funding to pay hospital bills is projected to run out by 2024. new york city mayor michael bloomberg is calling for more leadership from the white house. i think the mistake that was made here is we let congress write the health care bill so that it s just a collection of special interests. you got yours. he got his. and i voted for both of those because i got mine. and it doesn t make any sense. nobody s ever read the bill. it s just not going to work. the same thing is true with dodd/frank. congress shouldn t be writing specific laws. the president should send to congress the specific law that was created by people who are experts in the field and then sell it to them. they may have to tinker a little bit here and there to get some votes, but fundamentally, the leadership has to come from 1600 pennsylvania avenue and not the other way around. they re the reason why, actually, and the wall street journal points this out, the reason we go from one stupid budget exercise to the other is republicans spent the last decade spending more on entitlements, you know, $7 trillion drug benefit plan. democrats don t want to touch it. mm-hmm. when republicans touch it, they get killed. when democrats touch it, they get killed. why can t they do it together? what are we doing? we re cutting discretionary domestic spending, the last place we should go. we re cutting defense, which i want to cut defense, but let s cut defense in a smart way. but we won t do it because everybody s afraid to talk about entitlements. well, but, you know, i think there can be a conversation about entitlements. it s just we didn t have to go through this this exercise, this silly sequester exercise. it seems like both sides overshot. well, undershot, i think. undershot? you know. i think there was a bigger deal to be had in 2011, and they didn t have it, so we ve kind of rolled our way to this point where we re doing gratuitous harm to american citizens. you know, it s kind of silly. i want to show reverend al found this. this is just a compilation of and how it works in local news, the major newspapers sometimes get stuff from the white house and from washington. then the local newspapers run some of those articles. and then the local news use those articles as sources. and then this is what people across this is actually if new york times gets a press release from the white house i did not say that. let s check it out. i am. but if you re a local news guy, newswoman, news director, it goes straight from the white house unfiltered into the local channel and fear and loathing in middle america. this is what people are going to get. meals on wheels in hastings and provides a hot meal to 80 seniors. but the possible sequestration could bring that all to a halt. fayetteville will lose $145,000. money that helps level the playing field for students in poverty. special education would take a $91,000 hit. one of the biggest impacts for the city and frankly all of liberty county are civilian jobs. thousands of people get a paycheck because they work at fort stewart. more than 3,000 children take part in hillsborough county s head start program. but like many government agencies, it s been bracing for cuts from the sequester. if inspectors are pulled from the line, it could slow production. that means you ll be paying more for your meat. if this would go away, you re talking a lot of people that would not have a nice hot meal. does that take you back? your hot meals are going to be gone. and you ve got to pay more for your meat. all these things are true. no, they re not. no, they re not. but the point is no, they re not. listen. listen. let s bottom line it. it s stupid cuts, mika. exactly. at the ends of the day, the $85 billion in stupid cuts the cbo says will only be $44 billion in stupid cuts. stupid cuts. $44 billion of a $3.6 trillion. that s one penny in stupid cuts out of a dollar of federal spending, we ll probably survive. but the penny we spend to inspect your meat. by the way, can i just say because john heilemann, so many people say, this is a great point, that our government is not efficient. maybe not 99 cents out of a dollar is efficient, but this one penny out of a dollar keeps our planes in the air, keeps our meat safe and cheap, feeds seniors, takes care of young children. hot meals on wheels. hot meals on wheels. head start. lindsey says this one penny protects us from al qaeda. head start. russians, the soviets from dennis rodman. if we could just harness the power of this one penny, john heilemann, it would be efficient government. this is a dreadful penny to cut. and why we would cut with all the wasteful government spending, why we would cut this one penny, i don t get it. why can t they get together and make real cuts? the republicans are trying to make the president do it now. why don t they do it together? they know they have to. that s the only way. does anyone want to answer? yeah, i do. okay. if this one penny that they re going to cut out of a dollar is so dreadful, why wouldn t the president say because i d do it. yeah, let me make the cuts. give it to me. i ll cut the one penny. but the president balked on it. well everybody is punting on this. i know, but if you believe, like the president believes, that this one penny out of a dollar, this $44 billion out of $3.6 trillion that s going to be cut from the budget is going to destroy national defense, is going to endanger americans lives, and their meat s going to be more expensive and seniors will be thrown out onto the street, if you guys don t have the courage to save seniors and keep meat prices low, i ll step in and do it. yes, well, you re using a very vivid illustration to make the point that there s a lot of scare talk around this, and it s a political exercise in which people are trying to drive rhetorical points. there s a bigger this is about a bigger thing. and the bigger thing is, you know, this is, i think, not just about this fight that s coming to at least a temporary conclusion today, but about the fights to come over the debt ceiling and over the continuing resolution, keeping the government going. the president is playing a hard game of politics right now. to try to get the whip hand over republicans. republicans are playing another hard game with the president. these guys are this is not about that one penny on the dollar. and i think you re vividly illustrating the fact that that s a rhetorical trope, but it s about who s going to have the advantage going forward on issues of taxes and spending over the next few months. the president right now is and i m not knocking him. i mean, if you re a politician, this is what you do, the president is really he s getting his sea legs. he s got the republicans on their heels. he s bearing down on them. he killed them on the fiscal cliff. he could give them relief. he could do the cuts himself. he s staying after them here. he s now talking about marriage equality, putting them on their heels there. this week conservatives have been put in the position to be against the civil rights act of 1965. last night, they were against violence against women. right. i mean, you know, rich lowrie with the national review wrote a column that said our party right now, we re sort of in the ditch. you know, just get a blanket. find an old blanket on the side of the road and pull it over you because we re going to be in the ditch for a while. but they are setting republicans some of the wounds, of course, are self-infli self-inflicted, as they always are, but the president s on a run, and he is not going to let them off the mat right now. kelly, we have republicans on, and i say, okay, how come you won t talk? it s because we won t raise taxes. the president wants to close loopholes. i will ask in that same conversation, are you for closing loopholes, and they ll say yes. why, then, can t they come up with the cuts that they want since they need so badly to be done? i don t understand. well, closing the loophole is something that john boehner again yesterday said he is for. the thing that really counts here in terms of how they negotiate is they don t want to sort of spend that chip now in this conversation. they re prepared to do it in a bigger conversation about reforming the tax code, about trying to change the structure of entitlements for the long term. so they say they re willing to do it but not for a smaller package. you know, when you go back to where we were in the summer of 2011 when all of this was coming into being, people didn t believe this would actually happen. and here we are, we ve sort of worn down people s expectations about what government can or cannot do, what congress will or won t do. and they ve let the 11th hour come and nearly something. and instead of the usual hectic pace to resolve it, it was sort of a big eh, you know? so let me ask joe the same question. because if this party is supposedly so intent on making responsible fiscal decisions. fiscal decisions. and these aren t. these cuts are random across the board, and some of them are cruel. and ridiculous given the amount of money that needs to be cut, which you found out is even less than what we re talking about which wasn t even that much. the cruelest penny. why can t they talk about entitlements, and why can t they bring something to the table? why would they put this on the president now when the president is only proposing to close loopholes, which they agree with? because republicans support a balanced approach. if you look at what s happened excuse me. worlds are colliding. yep. you guys want to finish? i m loving it. that s some phlegm. keep going. so republicans support a balanced approach. uh-huh. mr. wolfe. it s friday. you need a sip of that? we have all day. we have three hours. no, i m truly curious. republicans support a balance add approach. so republicans have taken the president at his word that he supports a balance add approach, so they support a balanced approach, too. what have we had, the fiscal cliff, and now we have sequester. the president decided, and congress decided, that the fiscal cliff, instead of being a balance of tax increases and spending cuts would be 100% tax increases. so now we move to the next step in the process. and this is the sequester. that has always been about spending cuts. yeah. and so if our last exercise, budgetary exercise, was 100% tax increases, let s make this all about spending cuts. the two do balance each other. and we move forward. and then let s talk about a balanced approach where we ll close the loopholes, which i support, but mr. president, you say you support reforming medicare and medicaid and social security. so if you really support that, we ll do that all together. i don t think that the republicans do support that. the republicans do support that. really? yeah, they do support that. i don t think the president supports entitlement reform. i mean, so here we are. and we re going around in circles. richard wolffe. richard wolffe is there. his throat is cleared. finally. friday. a massive, a massive clump of phlegm. i can think of worse things. not you. okay, stop. what was inside your throat? i m a little bit perplexed. first of all, let s all agree that not only are they getting the approach to the budget wrong, and i mean they, we re obviously talking about republicans and democrats in washington, but they are also getting themselves wrong. the sequester was designed to force themselves into a position, and they didn t even believe themselves and believe their own deadlines. they didn t even agree with their own motives. if republicans are not willing to stop defense cuts, then the sequester was structured all lo wrong, and they don t know who they are. that s the biggest problem of all. if they don t know who they are, how are they going to get to a deal? you talked about the president wants 100% tax rises. it s all taxes in terms of revenue. the fiscal cliff was 100% tax. i do think it was a mistake to pull those things apart. the whole initial strategy for the white house was to deal with the bush tax cuts and spending and lump them together. so in splitting it apart, we ve ended up in this limbo. it s a netherworld. and the problem is that you say, well, it s just one penny. but they re not dealing with the 50 pennies in the dollar on entitlements. they re not dealing with another 30, 40 pennies. exactly. on defense. let me underline, i do think that the $85 billion that cbo says will be $44 billion, i still think that s reckless and stup stupid, and there are people that are going to be hurt by it. it s not the right way to do it. i m not underselling it, but when everybody comes out and says the world s coming to an end, everybody s overplaying their hand. especially since they could have avoided stupid smaller cuts. we ve got to go to break. because we want politico to come in and tell us what s happening with this whole bob woodward at war thing. i have some e-mails from gene spurling i ll be reading later. i have 15 years worth of gene spurling e-mails. i m going to read them all. as a friend, i think you might regret. whoa, be careful. alex is screaming in all your ears to be quiet. former white house adviser david axelrod, general ray odierno, moderator of meet the press, david gregory. peter king takes on marco rubio to fund raise in new york. we ll explain why in the politico playbook. first here s bill karins with a check on the forecast. good friday morning. first day of march. it doesn t feel like it. this won t be like last year. probably a little later arriving spring. already snow showers this morning. you look out evansville, louisville, even chicago. not a lot of bad weather for your friday. let me take you through it. just nuisance snow showers in the midwest and northeast. not bad in the southeast. still a little chilly by this time of year by the standards. 48 today in atlanta. l.a., by the way, 85. we re worried about the fire danger out there. we did have a fire that formed last night in riverside county. by the time we get to saturday, continued snow showers. the cool air continues to be in the southeast. kind of a chilly first weekend of march. when things get a little more interesting is when we go into sunday and into next week. watch billings. that s where we get the cold air, and we re also going to deal with a snowstorm. this will be the big story next week. i showed you this map yesterday. i ll show it again. that s the storm track. sunday, monday, tuesday, wednesday. that white strip shows you where the potential is of snow next week. the pink would be where the potential is for heavier snows. notice that pinpoints areas possibly all through the mid-atlantic and maybe into even southern new england. that would be mid next week. that will be the big weather story next week. and of course, we ll track that for you here. just a little heads up for anyone traveling across the country next week, you re probably going to have to deal with that storm on the roads and in the air. you re watching morning joe brewed by starbucks. 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[ male announcer ] the durability of the volkswagen passat. pass down something he will be grateful for. good arm. that s the power of german engineering. back to you. time now to take a look. look how pretty. that s where we work. we work in the empire state building? no, new york city. i always get kind of i just get overwhelmed. this is like the coolest city. what? there s one penny helps fund chopper 4. all right, stop. the charleston post courier the lights are off. the lights are off. the charleston post courier the cruelest of pennies. boeing is looking to cut its temporary work force that currently employs more than 6,000 workers. it s a cost-cutting move that will reduce certain factory teams in south carolina by as much as 20%. the company says the cutbacks are not related to the recent problems with the 787 dreamliner jet. of course they re not. i m eating a munchkin. can you read the detroit news ? if you give me half to throw away. according to reports this morning, michigan governor rick snider will officially declare a financial emergency in detroit, setting up the state to take over the motor city. just have a munchkin already. it s like a little chick in her hand. $327 million budget deficit and $14 billion in long-term debt. you know how much you want that? it s like a little chicken. it s like a baby chicken in her hand. it has your name written on it. so lovely. have the munchkin. oh! cruel. wow! oh! goodness. no. now, that was the cruelest penny. seriously. i mean, children are starving in japan. a million munchkins. you re welcome. the boston globe, they ve identified four spots in the human genome that may hold the key to helping those with mental disorders who throw away munchkins. according to a new study, there s a common genetic link between five mental disorders, schizophrenia, autism and adhd. that s groundbreaking. that s incredible. do you know what funds the human genome project? that penny. the wall street journal. groupon has fired ceo and founder andrew mason. in a statement, mason said, after four and a half intense and wonderful years as ceo of groupon, i ve decided that i d like to spend more time with my family. just kidding i was fired today. i like this guy better already. someone will hire him just for that. the new york times. it just didn t work out really well. she wants more of these munchkins. i do. you re not going to have these or my lucky charms. the u.s. department of agriculture is likely to approve a horse-slaughtering plant in new mexico. with the usda s approval, it would be the first time since 2007 that horse meat suitable for human consumption would be produced. here s a good one. the st. louis post-dispatch. girls gone wild has filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy. oh! good lord. what is wrong with you, gene? show us your torts. what? what? show us your torts. what the hell? can i have a munchkin? i m uncomfortable. we should keep gene in washington. i don t know what that means, first groupon, now girls gone wild. the company owes more than $13 million in lawsuit claims. could that be parents who didn t want to see their daughters pulling their shirt up at spring break? the company says the bankruptcy filings will not affect its operations. what a nightmare. thank god. what a stupid concept. totally taking advantage of young, stupid girls who go to florida and pull their shirts up. why are you picking on florida? really? you just assume florida cancun or whatever. where girls go and pull their shirts up? wherever they go for spring break. i m probably wrong. no, they go to florida. really? he says knowledgably. that s why joe loves the sunshine state so much. i miss the sunshine state. you certainly do. drunk people acting stupid being taken advantage of, put on camera. i think yeah. boca, baby. i think that could be every parent s nightmare. i hope they go down. go boca vista. they re not. well, actually what s next? you want me to do this one, too? yeah. i d better just be quiet. and in this weekend s parade magazine, a day in the life of a country doctor. that s going to be cool. i like that. that s going to be great. i love that managazine. with us now, mike allen is here with the morning playbook. hi, mike. happy march and happy friday. yes! oh! it s spring break time. time to clean. mike, at the end of our show yesterday, the woodward e-mail surfaced between bob and the white house s gene spurling. politico released the e-mail from spurling to bob. i m assuming bob s going to be on today. i apologize for raising my voice in our conversation today. my bad. come on, baby. i love gene. he s a bully, that s why. my bad. i do understand your problems with a couple of our statements in the fall but feel, on the other hand, that you focus on a few specific trees that gives a very wrong perception of the forest. but perhaps we will just not see eye to eye. but i do truly believe you should rethink your comment about saying that potus asking for revenues is moving the goalpost. i know you may not believe this, but as a friend, i think you will regret staking out that claim. my apologies again for raising my voice on the call with you. feel bad about that and truly apologize. we find out at the end of the show yesterday, because we were talking at the beginning this was probably just some stupid under, you know, some lowly staff member. you know, they get in there, they get excited. we find out at the end of the show that this is gene spurling. we know gene. towering. he s a good guy. bob knows gene. bob knows gene. and bob, at the end, after that last e-mail says, you know, you never have to apologize to me, gene. gene s never threatened anybody. well, you know. yeah. he s sort of known as the tony soprano of democratic politics. that s how i ve always thought of gene. so anyway, bob woodward is backtracking last night. he s doing the backstroke. mike? first of all, around the table, you guys know how intimidating gene spurling is. we now call him gene the fierce. oh, that s cute. and it rhymes, too. it doesn t really work. because he s so nice. so whatted there? what happened there? a lot of questions around this table. why would woodward come out yesterday and say all this if he knew that there was an e-mail trail. this ain t 71. 72, 73. you don t have guys whispering to you in basements anymore. it s all on e-mail. bob woodward, i think, his sense of proprity was offended. respect must be paid to woodward. i think he didn t like the tone and content of this message from the white house. his reporting from his best-selling book, the price of politics, had convinced him that the white house has been wrong about what they ve been saying, about the genesis of the sequester. he didn t like this brushback from gene spurling. i guess they had had a shouting match. he says they have not had a makeup conversation. but his bigger point is, he says he doesn t think this is the way to do business by the white house. and he says that it s a reflection of how thin skinned that they are. that this is a white house that s not used to taking criticism. that s a key word because we re looking at just what happened yesterday and not looking at this completely in context. this has been going on for some time between the white house and woodward. things got ugly. woodward said the president wasn t telling the truth. jack lew wasn t telling the truth. they pushed back on that. then woodward came back. the white house lobbing bombs at woodward, him lobbing them back. i wonder, did it get personal and maybe bob got a little thin-skinned. you could say that and look at this exchange of e-mails. the tone of the e-mails actually is pretty friendly, as you saw there. this is a little bit two mobsters talking to each other. these are people who expect to do business with each other again. gene sperling from the beginning was convinced that the woodward book about the grand bargain was going to more come out on the side of speaker boehner. they spent a lot of time with woodward, and that s what s fascinating about this. even though they re taking shots at each other, the president gave bob woodward a long interview for this book. almost every key player in this drama, many of them around the dining room table of bob s house in georgetown where jim and i sat down with him and talked to him on camera about these e-mails. so let me ask you this because even last night and i can t wait to talk to bob about this because i m really curious but as of last night, he was saying that it s sort of like a coded message for, you d better watch out. and i know i was a reporter for many years. my husband is an investigative reporter in new york city. i hear the phone calls between him and representatives, what, from the mayor s office or housing or from state officials in the governor s office in new jersey and connecticut. i can hear the other side, too, screaming at him. i can hear f-bombs flying at times. the e-mails back and forth, everyone s pushing in a little bit. thank god you don t hear that at work. i know, exactly. la la land here. i look at this e-mail, and it sa it s at docile and polite as it gets, mike. i think, first of all, bob woodward would say what you re describing there is not the way business should be done between public servants and the press. and his argument was that he, your husband, had been doing this for a long time. they can take it. they can dish it out. but he s saying for a younger reporter might take this as a little bit more of a push. and he just didn t like the tone of it. he didn t like the way he was being treated. it also followed, again, a 30-minute screaming match on the telephone where he had been yelled at apparently, he claims, for 30 minutes. and i will say i don t know. as a lawyer or former lawyer, i wasn t a good one. clearly. clearly. why don t you go off set and clear your throat. self-deprecating. you do choose your words carefully. if i wanted to be polite but brush somebody back, a little baseball metaphor, not throw at their head but just brush them back, i would say regret. you may regret it. it s not a threat. but regret is a word you use words you understand what i m saying? i m not saying bob didn t overreact here. right. i am saying, though, regret is a word i would use if i just wanted to push somebody off the flight. as a friend, because they ve known each other for many years. come on, though. you know what? you know how many times i ve gotten on the phone and said, listen, i m your friend. i m your friend. that s the best one. can i just tell you this as a friend? you re dead. you re a dead friend. i just want to protect you because gene, i want you to know, if you write that column, i love you. i so appreciate that. i ll write anything you want. i m telling you as a friend. you would never dot, dot, dot. i d love to have a nickel for every time i ve been told a similar thing by a news source. yeah. or a penny. the penny funds social services. mike. the point to this, whether it s coded or whatever the message was there, what s fascinating about this, and the reason that politico posted them originally went and talked to bob, did this as part of the behind-the-curtain column with jim vandehei is that people read woodward s book, and they wonder how he gets his stuff. there s an amazing fascination with what woodward has seen and learned over the decades. and here, as you point out, because of the e-mail trail, for the first time we re seeing in realtime how bob woodward does his job, which is very fascinating to people who both work in washington and want to work here. so you can think it s clubby or friendly. you can think that it s a little mobsterlike. whatever you think of it, for the first time we have a window into how gene sperling, bob woodward talk to each other. as we say good-bye here, next month, next week, wednesday at the white house, the president is welcoming the university of alabama bcs champions, roll tide, baby. i love it! mike, thank you so much. every year, mika. bob woodward is going to be joining us later. i can t wait. interesting to hear his insight. seeing how gene sperling does his job, that s the real window we re getting. i ve talked to him on a few sunday nights as he s trying to grapple with his kids and the economy. up next and saving the economy. a and getting his kids to bed. i don t know what s harder, teenagers or the economy. teenagers. he s going to be on in a little bit. also, diplomatic tension overseas as north korea threatens miserable destruction on the united states. boy, they must the fearless leader must have had a bad basketball game with dennis rodman. who better than basketball great dennis rodman. there he is. kim jong-un. we ll show you the surreal pictures from his trip next. i know what you re thinking. transit fares! as in the 37 billion transit fares we help collect each year. no? 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[ engine revs ] what?! quattro!!!!! congressman peter king who represents long island is blasting senator marco rubio for raising money on wall street after voting against an emergency relief bill in the wake of hurricane sandy. that s pretty bad, right? congressman king tells the new york observer this. being from new york we re not supposed to be suckers. it s bad enough that these guys voted against it. that s inexcusable enough. but to have the balls to come in and say, we screwed you now make us president? wow. wow. that s tough talk. kelly o donnell. take it away. foreshadowed indeed by congressman king. when we were in the heat of this battle over hurricane sandy funding, one of the big arguments you had from lawmakers from the northeast is that when tornadoes or floods or other terrible things happened around the country, they voted to provide that funding, and they felt really sort of abandoned by their colleagues who were making the fiscal argument that some of the things in the bill maybe weren t the best use of the money. and peter king said it then. don t come to new york to fund raise if you re going to turn your back on new yorkers now. he was hot about it then, and he s proving to be consistent. so putting some heat on marco rubio, encouraging donors. and you know, new york is the place they all go. new york, dallas and california, it seems, are always the finance trips. encouraging big donors not to support rubio or others who voted against it, to say don t go against your self-interest and hold their feet to the fire. so it s interesting to see that kind of the fire he had on the house floor when this was all unfolding. he s carried it. he s got a long memory, as some in new york do. it s not like he s from kansas. i mean, it s not like marco rubio s from kansas. he s from a state, i m sure peter king understands these things. over the years peter king has probably paid, you know, voted for without questioning funding for florida hurricanes. it s fascinating. wow. kelly, you re the best. thank you so much. thank you, kelly. good to be with you. have a great weekend. thanks. coming up next, c-pac leaves governor christie off the speaking list prompting outrage some in the republican party. up next, we ll get a full explanation from the head of the american conservative union, al cardenas. you re watching morning joe brewed by starbucks. 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hey, i m doing great, mika. joe s made my mama cry all week over the c-pac issue. no, no. i told people i was misquoted. al. i told everybody you ve been a dear friend of mine for years. my mom s darling. son, you see what joe s been saying all week? i said, well, maybe he ll give me a chance to explain. mrs. cardenas, i love your son. i ve loved your son for decades. yes. he should just invite chris to the party. and me. i love him. what happened to me? remember i danced at the last one? at cpac. it didn t work for you? it was fun. you did great. you guys are on top of my list, certainly way ahead of peter king, i can tell you that. wow. oh! wait. what list is that? is that a good list to be on the top of or a bad list? yeah. you re on a great list, joe. okay. we ve had you a few times. joe, you have a lifetime average of 92 with the american conservative union. how good is that? can you correct you? it s a 95. and not that i m paying attention. but i think it s a 95. all right. so al, i guess because i know you so well and, you know, and when i say that, i mean, i remember, we would travel across florida when you were running the party. i d introduce you. and your same message all the time, a lot of times to audiences that were 100% white, 100% wasp, country club republicans, you were talking about the need to expand the party base. before everybody else was talking about bringing hispanics into the party. you were delivering this message. we have to have a big tent. it s the message that the bushes picked up had they started running for governor and president. yeah. so i guess it s strange. it seems sort of exclusionary to keep out a guy that s got a 74% approval rating. this isn t i ll be honest. this isn t the al cardenas that i was going around the state of florida with in the 1990s talking about growing the party. well, the good news, joe, is we re going to have the most diverse and i think representative view of america this year, cpac. we ve got, you know, tim scott, arthur davis, marco rubio. we ve got a lot of talented up-and-coming young women. and for the first time ever, i m highlighting ten young conservatives all across the nation, african-americans, hispanics, women who are out there in their 30s doing great things. an african-american speaker of the house in oklahoma, for example. i think the whole theme is that, you know, the conservative movement needs to grow with the demographic realities of america, and we re going to be painting that picture at cpac. but shouldn t you also be reaching out to overweight guys from jersey that got a 74% approval rating? ah, that s the question. if i was chairman of the republican national committee, christie will be one of the first guys on my list. but i m chairman this time around, joe. the conservative organization. part of the movement. and the cpac, it s like an all-star game for professional athletes. we figure out, who are the 30 people that we thought over the last year were the most serving? we had chris christie last year because we thought he did great things. but you know, we just don t like what folks have done this year. we re in the middle of this conversation about the $85 billion sequester. and congress just adopted a $60 billion stimulus package of which only 10% was for disaster relief. now, i can t for the life of me understand why a good conservative would want to promote the $60 billion pork barrel bill when in reality all we need to do was approve a $10 billion disaster relief bill. like being from florida, that s what we used to do. you re talking about sandy, but you ve got, with chris christie, a guy that s conservative fiscally. he s balancing the budgets. he s spending less this year in his 13 budget than the democrats spent in their 08 budget. he s taken on entrenched union interests in jersey where they re the most powerful, and he s won. he s taken on democrats in the senate. he s won. the guy s taken on the teachers unions that wanted to stand in the way of reform. he s won. i understand you disagree with him on what he said on the sandy bill, but is this one issue really what s disqualifying him? because i had heard also, there were people that had concerns about his position on guns. joe, we had him last year. his position on guns, his position on social issues was also well known last year. and i had no i had no reservations in asking him to be a keynote speaker last year. look. the whole goal here is to invite over a three-day conference the 0 folks who we thought most deserved it this year. that doesn t mean he won t be on our list next year. but we had to pick 30. now, we ve got 300 members of congress. you ve got 30 governors, republican governors. you ve got a lot of standalone people that folks wanted to hear from. we have mitt romney coming whom no one s heard from since the election. so we ve got a lot of these unique opportunities. i think dr. carson s coming. you know, we ve chosen 20 elected officials to be on the main stage. we thought we chose the ones that deserved it the most this year. so that s all it is. you know, as i said, if i was the chairman of the republican national committee, i would have made sure he came. all right. interesting. okay. fair enough. wouldn t we all rather hear from mitt romney than christie? no, absolutely not. al, i m still waiting for my invite. i hope your mom s watching. you think she s watching right now? yeah, i think she thought today was fair. al cardenas, thank you. mom cardenas, i love your son. he s a great guy. appreciate you being with us. coming up, former senator russ feingold will be here. standing by in the green room, david axelrod and melody barnes. the only two people more intimidating at the white house than gene sperling. 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[ male announcer ] get the spark business card from capital one and earn unlimited rewards. choose 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase every day. told you i d get half. what s in your wallet? welcome back to morning joe. look how beautiful. it s beautiful everywhere. gorgeous. john heilemann s style with us. can we go back to that shot? so when are they going to put the barricades up around the washington monument? okay, stop it. i know what you re getting at. the bricks are already falling off the side of it. after the sequester, the thing is just falling apart. parents, do not let your children go inside any of those buildings today. joining us on set, former senior adviser to president obama and director of the institute of chicago politics and msnbc contributor, david axelrod. he s been running around intimidating everybody. i think he s going to say something to threaten me. as a friend, don t point at me. and bless your heart. i just say this as a friend. bless your heart. aren t you something? what, are you southern now? yeah, that means you re dead and i don t like you. i do. i got that when i went to the south. and i realized i was in big trouble. oh, bless your heart. former director of the white house domestic policy council and ceo of melody barnes solutions, good name. melody barnes joins us as well. all right. how you guys doing? we re great. good. it s friday. it s going into effect. you should be freaking out. are you a little nervous? about did you fly in here? the sequester? did you fly in here? i snuck in here yesterday. there s a chance with all the airline delays you ll never get back to chicago. you might be stuck here. no, i rented a car. oh. you know, the toll booths aren t working. we re going to be walking back. just drive through the gates. i m confused. you re kind of making fun of it, too. well, look. i think one of the i ve said this before. one of the dangers of this whole debate is i don t think a, i think the public has fiscal crisis fatigue. and i just don t think that they are i think they ve tuned out to a lot of this. and i think the second piece is that and melody knows this well, she s a veteran of government, this isn t going to be a slow-rolling deal. this is not going to be a deal where everything happens at once and people are going to recognize the difference at once. some communities and some sectors will, but not most. so melody, i remain an optimist. what i find is every time when did that happen? i stop being optimistic now, come on. i think you re a guy, at the end of the day, who s going to do the right thing. and you like him. and i like him. i find every time that the eternal optimist, i finally give up hope, that s when great things happen. and i just feel like, you know, it s one crisis after another. and like david said, we have this fatigue. maybe, just maybe, at the end of all of this, the two sides can come together and have a grand bargain. the president started talking about it a couple of days ago. right. maybe that happens after we give up hope that washington can function. well, i hope so. like you, i m an eternal optimist as well. i always see the glass half full. after 20 years in government, i ve always seen a solution come at the last minute. so this is highly disappointing, actually. but i know and david knows from our years working in the white house that the president certainly is there. and i also believe that there are people on the other side of the aisle, and once people start to feel this in communities, over time, it will be an accident that happens in slow motion, that that will start to galvanize the country around a serious conversation. and the president has said entitlements and closed loopholes, we ve got to take these issues on. we also have to make smart investments at the same time so we can grow our economy and prepare our people for that new economy. it has to happen. otherwise we are rome. some people like paul krugman don t believe that medicare and medicaid are a crisis. he says let s wait till 2025, wait till the programs start going under, then we can address it. just to be clear, that s not the president s position, right? he knows we ve got to take care of entitlements before 2025? he s started to do it. we started to do it in the affordable care act. that, in fact, was one of the rationales behind the affordable care act, to try and reduce the cost of medicare, reduce the cost of health care and extend the life of medicare, did by ten years, as you know, governor romney ran around the country attacking the president for cutting medicare during the campaign. the president understands, we still have to go back and take hold on. let me ask this because i want to get it on the record here. the president does understand and this is you know, we ve talked privately. yes. you ve assured me for four years that he does understand that we have an entitlement crisis, that it squeezes out funding for defense, that it squeezes out funding for the poor, that it squeezes out funding for education. he does understand that, right? it s beyond that. if you care about medicare, then you have to do some things to make sure that medicare is strong and solvent for the future. he understands that. the question is just how you do it. but the president, even in his proposals, has committed himself to significant reduction in medicare costs. he s committed himself to changing the way we calculate social security. and melody can tell you that that hasn t pleased everyone on our side. certainly not. but in this discussion, why did we get to this point? i think as you know, joe, that there was a lot of disquiet in the republican caucus about the vote for the tax increases. i think in certain ways the republican leadership felt they had to go through the sequester point because they would have had a rebellion among some of their troops if they hadn t done that. and the question is, where do they go now? they dug a hole so deep, they can t get back from it. because we do need a balanced answer. we do need a balanced answer. do you think we can get a balance add approach if they don t go back and move on it and make some action? now we ve had a fiscal cliff issue that was taken care of by all taxes. it looks like the sequester s going to be taken care of by all spending cuts. and there were spending cuts a year, a year and a half ago. a trillion dollars in spending cuts. do we move forward now to this balanced approach where we close tax loopholes for the super wealthy and we also take care of entitlement programs? well, i think i hope we small fractures have started to appear in the republican position. when the president went to newport democratic position on entitlements maybe, too? on both sides? well, yeah. we had the leadership in the white house with the president in december saying, this deal s still on the table. and we have to start addressing entitlements, and we also have to close loopholes. he took representative reigle back down to newport news, a republican, that we have to start dealing with more issues and more revenue. lindsey graham said if entitlements are on the table, i m open to more revenue. so these cracks have started to appear. and i hope that that is the beginning of something larger that brings both sides to the table. and brings a balanced approach. did you see the floor yesterday? i saw a little bit on the show. have you built a bomb shelter yet? no, i haven t built a bomb shelter yet. al qaeda, the russians, zombies, we re in trouble. yeah. flesh-eating locusts. flesh-eating locusts, frogs flying from heaven. don t you hate those? but your hope for a balanced approach, you know what people are thinking? it can t be done. the sequester, sorry, or doomsday devastation machine, was set up so that this would be done. and it s not done. and david, how do both sides not suffer even more in terms of faith in government and in washington and in congress after missing this deadline. and by the way, being seen on video last night walking home from their long break out of the halls of congress looking happy that they re going to be going home for the weekend. well, look. if you look at the numbers of the republicans in congress, they re about as low as they can go. but as you guys have discussed on this program, many of them come from districts that are homogenous where their only concern is a primary challenge. and so they re pinned down in those positions. look, i think part of the issue here is, i don t think they view i don t think the leadership of congress viewed you say this was the sort of watershed moment. wasn t it? i see this as part of a continuum, and i think we ve got a long way to go before it plays out. i don t think it s a watershed moment. i think this is one more chapter that hopefully gets us to a better conclusion. you think about what s happened here in these last two battles, there are two things that are kind of interesting. one is that republicans who had ever accepted a tax increase for a very long time did in december under force, but they did. now you ve learned of the sequester thing is that what was supposed to keep this from happening on the republican side was republicans were supposed to be so concerned about defense cuts that they would never let the sequester happen. so we ve now learned that republicans will accept the tax increases they did in december, and they now have acknowledged tacitly that they re actually open to defense cuts. they re not they did not if they had been so paranoid about the defense cuts that it worked the way it was supposed to work, we wouldn t have seen the sequester. you ve got a couple of sacred cows that are no longer so sacred. and actually, if you think about it in the long run and you get to the next debt ceiling debate where are the consequences for the economy unlike the sequester which is not going to kill the american economy, where if we hit the debt ceiling and exceed it, you can imagine as we re moving in a very ugly, very pointless, very frustrating way towards a situation where the stars might align, and we might be able to finally get that grand bargain. everybody knows what the solution is. everybody knows that it s a combination of additional revenue that comes through tax reform, closing tax loopholes. boehner said last year that he could identify $800 billion in loopholes that he was willing to close. and some entitlement reform. everybody understands what the deal is. the question is whether i think it s mostly on the republican side, whether they can manipulate the politics of their own caucus to get there. but david and melody, tax reform is not going to get us to where we need to go to save entitlements. and no one s saying that it is. but the president s saying here s the thing, though. the president is saying some reform on medicare, but you look at what allen binder said, what other economists are saying, democrats are wrong when they say we can take care of the entitlement crisis by raising taxes. that s not the answer. joe, no one is saying that. what we re saying is that if you re going to ask democrats to vote for entitlement reforms, that you have to at the same time have revenue increases on the other side of the equation in order to move forward. jump ship together. think about it. a year, year and a half ago, people would have said immigration reform, absolutely not going to happen. things change. it is a chemical situation. the election happened. people are looking at demographics. can you not say a chemical situation, john heilemann? start shuffling through his pockets. sweating. it does change, and i think this, as we ve said, is the chapter as the american public gets galvanized around this, that we ll start to contribute to the challenge. joining us from washington, pulitzer prize-winning associate editor of the washington post, bob woodward along with david axelrod, melody and heilmann. bob, good to see you this morning. thank you. what is the follow-up? we ve been questioning the e-mails between you and gene sperling and whether or not regret means threat. and i want to know how you got there in terms of that was a watch-out point of view statement. well, it was not i never said it was a threat. politico was doing the story about the column that i wrote on sunday, calling out the administration, making it clear from the reporting and finally to jay carney s credit that the idea for the sequester came from the white house and that they ve changed some of the arrangements. and so i mentioned that i got an e-mail from somebody like lots of things in washington then, the details leaked out. as david axelrod knows, gene sperling s one of the really decent, hardworking people i ve dealt with the obama white house and axelrod a lot. it s just unusual to say when there s not this wasn t a factual disagreement. this was a disagreement about i was challenging them on something, and gene said we re not going to see eye to eye, and you re going to regret staking out this claim. axelrod and i have disagreed many times, but he s never said you re going to regret reaching a conclusion that we don t like. he doesn t say that to you because he says that to me all the time. i m still waiting for you to regret something. all right. keep waiting. bob, let me ask you this. given all the reaction this has gotten and given the nature of the e-mails as you read through them, do you think, because you re not, you know, a young reporter starting out who might be intimidated, you re not. you re bob woodward. do you think you might have overstepped the way you described the scenario? no. i mean, the e-mails speak for themselves. they do. people have characterized them. but the issue here is, this is where we get tangled up in ourselves is the automatic spending cuts and the sequester and how we got there and what it s going to mean to people. and it s often a technique employed by white houses either unintentionally or intentionally to say oh, let s make the conduct of the press the issue rather than what they did. to people out in the real world, the issue is these automatic spending cuts and the human toll they are going to bring to many people and many families. you know, bob, i want to talk about actually the news of the day that s actually important. the sequester. but before i do that, david axelrod, he s a small person. what? he wants to he wants to get involved in the mundane sort of machinations of the minutia. the minutia. he s a man who lives in the weeds. who lives in the weeds. read all of his books. david, i want to ask you from your perspective and then you can take it. because you were a journalist. yes, i was. you know both sides of this. i do. take it away. first of all, one of the reasons i became a journalist was because of bob woodward. i bet you re sorry now. uh-oh. bob woodward inspired a whole generation. don t blame me. exactly. a whole generation of journalists. in fact, you talked yesterday that seems like an awful lot to place on bob s shoulders. i was the city hall bureau chief of the chicago tribune when i was 25 years old, and the mayor threatened to have me ejected from city hall because she didn t like the coverage i was doing. so i know what intimidation is. and bob, you know, the headline in the washington post, your newspaper, was woodward says that he was threatened by the white house. but i never have. come on. you know that. no. they got the impression from what you said that you felt you were being threatened, and you just read to the politico one line from that e-mail. when the full e-mails came out, they were as cordial as can be. his e-mail was cordial, and your response was cordial. so if you felt threatened, why didn t you say to gene, don t threaten me? bob? no, i did not feel threat you know, what i have said, david, come on. you are putting words in my mouth. i said i don t think this is the way to operate. and you and i have had many discussions. you ve never said to me, oh, you re going to regret doing that. am i correct? yes, but this was a specific discussion about a specific point you had raised. it seemed like gene, thin that e-mail, was very polite in the way that he pushed back on it. you should have heard the i m not putting words in your mouth, bob. it s your newspaper that said, you said you were threatened. so let me step in here, bob. sure. as i said for some time, we ve just been looking at what happened in this chain of e-mails. this comes after the white house pushing back pretty hard on you for quite some time because the president said he had nothing to do with the sequester. you pointed out in your piece that he did. the white house started pushing back furiously. gene called you up. and we love gene here. but it was a 30-minute call. as i said to david, i mean, let s just not pretend here. that when you say the word regret, and this whole i said it as a friend, we d always do that in washington. you d put your arm around somebody, you d bring them close and you d say, hey, listen, jim. we re good friends. you know i love you, but i ve just got to tell you, buddy, if you go out there and put this amendment on my bill, you re going to regret it. i m only saying it because i love you. but you re sending the message, watch out. duck. exactly. and this is the code. now, look. gene is not a threatening sort of person, and i ve never said this was a threat. the point is, what really happened here? we re at one of the pivot points again in washington about budget and fiscal issues, god help us that we re there again, but we are. and these automatic spending cuts which really don t deal with the problem of entitlements, and that s very, very significant. these automatic spending cuts. everyone says are the worst are irrational. i mean, how do we get to the point where we have the government, our government is the biggest obstacle to continue in the economic recovery. that is the reality everyone s facing. mika, can we get a shot of david s face? did you see that look on his face when he asked the question? i thought he was going to follow through on the threat. these are not the right way to move forward. the president agrees with that. bob, from the very beginning, he said we need a balanced way forward that includes both cuts, and that includes cuts in entitlements, and revenues. and that s exactly what he wants to do now. and to say i think what gene was reacting to was that you suggested he had moved the goalposts. the goalposts have been in the same place from the very beginning. no, they have not. because in 2011, he made a deal, biden and senate minority leader mcconnell, made the deal that we won t have to go back for more borrowing authority negotiations in the election year 2012, something very important to the president and to you and to the white house staff. and the agreement was then there would be, in the sequester, which we re now dealing with, no tax increases. it is a lay-down case that he has change the president has changed the argument here. now, is that a felony? is that a big deal? no. but it s the reality. it s not a felony or a big deal, it s just not true. the fact is that the president said that the sequester was never meant to go forward. and the president said the way to solve it has oh, but it has. is includes revenue and entitlement reforms. as we ve discussed here, that s the only way that it can move forward. he still believes that. that s what he said all through 2011, 2012 and 2013. the goalposts are right where he put them in the first place. bob, final word. the goalposts got moved, and they know it, and that s what they re upset about. look, he made a deal in 2011. he got an immediate benefit. the republicans are out there saying, okay, we ll go along with the sequester. they are to blame. everyone s to blame. but the sequester is a giant nightmare. and it could have a real impact on the economy and people s lives as the president has said. and that s what this is about, not some kind of e-mail exchange i had with somebody in the white house. bob, thank you so much for being on the show. we greatly appreciate it. thank you. you know, we consider you a great friend of the show. i just want to say. i really do. i think you d better write a really nice story about me, being a champion of budget restraint. really, i m your friend. and i m thinking i don t think you re going to print it. don t you think he ll regret it? i do. i do. listen, but i love you. and listen, you re welcome back any time even if you don t. i just kind of think you d probably better. front page. front page. bob, thank you so much. thanks a lot. have a great weekend. david, how you doing over there? great. grumpy. you are grumpy. i m not grumpy at all. bob was the one who raised the e-mails in the first place. david can you just at least admit this? in washington a lot of times, if you want to get something done, you don t get in somebody s face and say let me tell you. you go up to them, you say, listen, we re friends. we know how this works. what is gene sperling going to do to bob woodward? oh, my god, sperling? now, now, now. bob woodward who faced down as a young man h.r. halderman is worried, feels intimidated by gene sperling? do not diss gene sperling. he is a fierce, fierce man. he s the albert schweitzer of economists. there you go. he s the taupeony soprano of politics. do you know what kind of threat that is? we ll be right back. we ve got so much going on. chuck todd s here. we ve got the general coming, david gregory. blah, blah, blah. we ll be right back. stay around and you ll regret it. 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lindsey graham yesterday on the house floor talking about al qaeda and john mccain quoting chairm chairman? a lot of the conservative critics are all over the place. on the one hand, they re issuing these warnings and the speaker of the house said this would threaten national security. and then you have other republicans saying that these are, you know, these dire warnings are unfounded. the reality is that neither side wants this. but the politics of this at the moment tend to favor the republicans in that there s no immediate effect of this. this will take time. not everyone s going to be affected by this. and look, there s a lot of americans who hear this and say, really? 2% of the budget, you can t cut 2% of the budget? i think we can live with that. now, there s lots of people who will be affected, whether it s by head start or furloughed employees in the military. so there are certain pockets of the country that will be impacted, and there will certainly be an outcry. my sense is wherever that outcry gets the loudest, whoever feels more pain, maybe we see some movement as a result of that. but it s not going to be immediate. this is not the fiscal cliff. and chuck todd, it s not going to be widespread. it s not like the government shutdown of 1995. this is about, if you believe the cpo numbers, $44 billion out of $3.6 trillion, that s a penny on the dollar. some people will be affected. some people will be hurt. but overall, it may not have the political impact that the president and the democrats may think it will have. not only that, you know, there was the way the white house was spinning this this week, they were almost making an assumption that government workers were just going to drop their hands and stop working and not work as hard and all of this. meat inspector were going to start spitting in food. the other part of this, there s a lot of agency heads who frankly never thought sequester would kick in who are going to keep biding time. they re not going to make certain whacks. they re probably going to delay, delay, delay. i think it s going to be less than a bumpy feel. yes, some places are going to feel it more than others. and there s going to be that uneven feeling. but i think there s a chance it s even less than people think because you ve got a lot of agencies still banking on sequester being rolled back sometime between now and, say, july of this year before we get to the end of the fiscal year. what a ridiculous spectacle this week. can i just say this? just a ridiculous spectacle. it s ridiculous. there was not a single serious meeting. not one. if sequester is so bad, not a single serious proposal or counterproposal from the white house or congressional republicans. i mean, come on. this is awful. let me ask everybody around the table, and you guys in washington. i ve been reading the wall street journal s been talking about this for some time that actually the president has much more discretion than we re hearing. that he actually has the ability, like the department of hhs has ability to move around a certain percentage of their dollars. and he s got the flexibility to mitigate this damage. of course, the conservatives will argue, he doesn t want to do that because he wants the cuts to seem as painful as possible. but how much flexibility does the president have moving forward to mitigate some of the sharper edges of the sequester? anybody know? melody, you re a you re the expert, melody. melody barnes solutions. i know it s not fair. last night when i was rifling through. that s melody. sort of shaped on graham rudman which allowed, back in 86, allowed agencies to move the money around so they could make sure that essential services like making sure that our meat is safe could they could move the money from nonessential services to these sort of front-line services. is that the case? well, it s a highly technical process, as i understand it. right. which works really good on morning television. right. which is why i m not going to go into the highly technical process. oh. i know, i m sorry. do we have a white board? but agencies, there is some level of flexibility, but at the same time, they have to look at their contracts. they have to look at the kinds of responsibilities that they have, the commitments that have been made, and that in and of itself starts to shrink the parameters of how you can make and where you can make cuts. and where the greatest impact will be on people so that you aren t hurting the most vulnerable people. the president isn t sitting in the oval office saying, let s increase the pain as much as we possibly can. i, the leader of this country, for the sake of a political argument, but at the same time, we ve got to figure out a way to do this given the kinds of contracts and commitments that departments and agencies already have. well, there won t be the immediate pain that some anticipated. there is, as i said, a slow-rolling issue here that will get more severe as time goes on. so you can ameliorate things in the short term. if this were to stand in the long term, it would be a big problem. if it were to stand if congress were to come back and increase funding in some of these areas. john. yeah. i want to ask david and chuck, first i ll quote the great mike barnicle who said sequester is latin for incompetence. let s start with that. but let me ask you guys, coming into this, there were a lot of debates about coming into the sequester about who had political lemppli political leverage. republicans thought they had a certain amount of leverage. now we re past this day, and we re heading into some other things, right? the continuing resolution, the debt ceiling coming up over the course of the next couple months. what happens in terms of leverage now going forward? who has the whip hand coming out of this and heading into those big battles? i don t happen to think it s clear. because the one thing that republicans have proven here is that they may not like it, but it s at least on their side of the column. if they want to force the president s hand on more spending cuts, the sequester, the white house s idea to force an outcome different from this is what they can allow to prevail. they re not going to win points in terms of the standing of congress, but the feeling is that they can withstand that because because some of their individual members can be strengthened if the president comes after them. i think the bigger fight moves now to the funding of the government for the rest of the year. and does the president want to kind of turn the levers on shutting down the government partially to call republicans out, knowing that, whether it s on tax reform or tax increases, generally there s a lot of evidence in the polling that suggests the public supports him on doing that. and indeed, if you look at tax reform, republicans were for this a couple months ago, getting more revenue out of tax reform. but they refused to do it unless it s, you know, for the money to be paid to then turn around and lower rates. so i think that there s some room to make the republicans hu heard on this. yeah, the white house thinks they have public opinion on their side, and obviously the evidence is there that they do, but i think they ve made a fundamental miscalculation on where the republicans are because you ve got to go back to the republican leaders. john boehner, mitch mcconnell and john cornyn. they cannot at all look like they re compromising on anything having to do with taxes to replace any of the spending. if they do, they will be out of a job. there s not a, they could be out of a job. it s politically risky. no, they will lose. they re both up. they had front row seats to paul and cruz in their own states. that s how they re operating. they re handcuffed. and if the white house doesn t see that, then, you know, they re not going to get what they think they re going to get out of this. and maybe they think, okay, they ll take it to 2014. that s a long way from now, and that s a lot of supposed pain that they say is going to be out there. as melody brought up earlier, people like lindsey graham and other republicans, and i certainly would support it, too, closing loopholes, fine, but we re not going to have unilateral disarmament again. we re not going to do what happened during the debt the fiscal cliff debate where it was all taxes. yes, we ll close the loopholes, but we re not going to do it for some stopgap measure. you want to talk about a big grand bargain, then yeah, let s pile it all on. but the political reality is, you re exactly right. republicans in the house, republicans in the senate, they can t do this without having a much bigger grand bargain. david gregory, thank you very much. you have an exclusive this sunday on meet the press. it s exciting. what is it? gene sperling? gene sperling. gene sperling. i do have gene sperling, but i ve got the speaker of the house to top off the program on reaction to what happens today at the white house. that s pretty good. and how we get past this. that s pretty exciting. keep them separated, man. david axelrod, thank you. good to be with you. good luck getting back to chicago. yes, yes. chuck todd, thank you so much. see you at 9:00 eastern time on msnbc. hey, chuck, we ve been a little late the past couple weeks. that s all right. i take it out you know what happens, i take it out of jansing, and we pay it forward. and so i just tell her to blame you. so jansing s going to be all after you. it s the circumstanle of lif. goth that, chris? it s all joe s fault. it s all my fault. former senator russ feingold joins us. more morning joe in just a moment. for over 125 years we ve been bringing people together. today we d like people to come together on something that concerns all of us.obesity. and as the nations leading beverage company we can play an important role. that includes continually providing more options. giving people easy ways to help make informed choices. and offering portion controlled versions of our most popular drinks. it also means working with our industry to voluntarily change whats offered in schools. but beating obesity will take continued action by all of us. based on one simple common sense fact, all calories count. and if you eat and drink more calories then you burn off you ll gain weight. that goes for coca cola and everything else with calories. finding a solution will take all of us. but at coca cola we know when people come together good things happen to learn more visit coke.com/comingtogether rudy gay scoring, i think tayshaun prince and tony allen can take away from opponents with their defense. the style they play, again, that kind of fits in as we get work from carl pietrus. i do think they have a chance to be successful without rudy gay. let s move on. the denver nuggets. 24-3 at home. they are tied with miami heat in terms of road wins and home losses, excuse me, the spurs that s hilarious. after the show today, joe and i will be holding a live twitter chat with our followers. i m nervous. we ll be answering your questions. i can see you guys tend to really cut to the chase on things here. on everything from politics to how we get morning joe on the air each day. you can send in questions now by using the hash tag #askmojoe and following us on twitter @morning underscore joe. russ feingold joins the conversation next. weep keep it right here on morning joe. 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ask your doctor about once-a-day xarelto®. for more information including cost support options, call 1-888-xarelto or visit goxarelto.com. oh, look at that shot. here with us now, former democratic senator from wisconsin, russ feingold. he s the author of while america sleeps: a wake-up call for the post-9/11 era now out in paperback. as we were talking in the break, you know what he said? what s that? he agrees we should be on delay in l.a. we should. and we re going to be. because he has to get up too early. i ve been teaching at stanford law school, and i miss you guys. you ve gone all west coast on us. the weather is very nice. you guys come on too early for the west coast. we re going to take care of that. our friends at comcast are taking care of that right now. we have to. let s talk, first of all, i want to get into the buck, but really quickly, look at what s happening in washington. you look at the sequester. you worked with republicans, actually, on cutting spending, on being more rational in our budgetary approach. what are your thoughts today? well, i work with you. right. in the gold old days when we were there, the thing that was different, joe, and i think you ll agree with this, the public was engaged in the idea of bringing down the deficit. they didn t have this division where one side said, you can t raise taxes. and the other side said we have to increase spending. we had this sort of almost unfriendly competition to see who could be tougher on the deficit. it was sort of fun. you know, why do we have a helium program for dirigibles? why do we have a tea-tasting board? why do we have a woollen mohair program for the troops uniforms that aren t wool anymore? we need to be in a situation where the public is engaged with members of congress and the president in finding even the small things. yes, the big things matter. but that creates the energy and the enthusiasm that leads to the kind of deal that we re going to need to actually get this done. no doubt about it. let s talk about why america is sleeping in the post-9/11 world. you say it s not just about slogans. what are we getting wrong? well, the problem is since 9/11, we obviously took an enormous blow. i ve been on this show talking about this. it seems after ten years we occasionally pay attention what s happening overseas, but we tend to go back to sleep and focus almost exclusively to domestic issues. it s a cliche, but we need to learn to walk and chew gum at the same time. you and i three years ago were talking about afghanistan. talking about spending $2 billion a week. talking about this endless war. we re three years past that. that one should have ended a long time ago.ago. we can t shift from north africa to syria, as important as it is, the north africa situation continues. i think the administration was too quick to say bin laden and everybody had their own day, but i was shocked to see the republicans never mention anything until benghazi. once that ended, they re not interested in it anymore. we have to maintain a focus. how do we maintain that focus, though? as a people and as leaders in our government have to make it a main part of that agenda. they can t be criticized for what s happening in malli or egypt. they need to be given credit for that. my book is about the fact that our system rewards people for basically not knowing much about the rest of the world. where do you stand on drones? i think drones are essential, but we need a legal regime, a real law monitored by the judiciary. it can t just be the president and a couple advisers looking at the list. were you surprised by the justice department memo? very disturbed. i think the legal counsel memos need to come out and the public needs to be the legal basis. i think it can be done in a lawful way, but it has to be precisely related to an enemy and not a broader definition of people that might not like us. that s one of mice worries about how this goes. i want to understand more about what you re saling, islamists, before anyone heard of al qaeda, before al qaeda came together, the algerian islamists were engaged in a brightal civil war with the algerian government. are you arguing that america needs to be engaged with islamists around the world, so if that s the case, you and john mccain are completely on the same page. we re not on the same page on this, and let me take your exact example. here s the fact that people don t realize. the folks in algeria went somewhere first. they went to afghanistan. they were part of the mojadean he was in afghanistan at the time, so it has tore tailored to al qaeda, but this is al qaeda, and we have to realize it. it s not just any islamic group. the book while america sleeps, a wake-up call for the post-9/11 era is now out in paperback. we want to teach at stanford. you want to invite us out? well, i don t have the authority. but it s a great place. give you a plug for marquette. i don t want to go to wisconsin. just wait a few weeks. you don t have the authority to let news your own classroom? no, i had to start my class that the one thing out of order is discussing the roe bowl, which you may recall was wisconsin versus stanford. thank you, russ. we ll be right back. 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are widespread, the biggest drivers of debt in the economy are largely spared. according to wall street journal, the government spent over 50 percent last year on social security, medicaid, and interest on the federal debt. most of the entitlement programs are nearly untouched. it s expected to grow 40% over the next decade. in just three yours the social security fund is forecast to burn through its reserves and medicare funding to pay for hospital bills is projected to run out by 2024. michael bloom better is calling for more leadership from the white house. i think the mistake that was made here is we let congress write the health care bill so it s a collection of special interests, you got yours, he got his, and i voted for both of thousands because i got mine. it doesn t make sense, nobody has ever read the bill. it s not going to work. the same is true for dodd/frank. congress shouldn t be writing specific laws. the president should send a specific law created by experts in the field, and then sell it to them. they may have to tinker a bit here and there to get some votes, but fundamentally the leadership has to come from 1600 pennsylvania avenue and not the other way around. the reason why the wall street journal points this out, the reason why we go from one stupid exercise to another is because republicans spent the last decade spending more on entitlements, the $7 trillion drug benefit plan. democrats don t want to touch it. when republicans touch it, they get killed. when democrats touch it, they get killed. why can t they do it together. we re cutting discretionary domestic spending, cutting defense, which i want to cut defense, but let s cut defenses in a smart way, but we won t do it, because everybody is afraid to talk about entitlements. well, but i think there can be a conversation about entitlements. we didn t have to go through this exercise, this this silly sequester. it seems like both sides overshot. i think there was a biggers deal to be had. they didn t have it, so we kind of rolled our way to this point where we re doing gratuitous harm to american citizens. it s kind of silly. and how it works in local news, the major newspapers sometimes get stuff, and then the local newspapers has run some of those articles, and the this is what people across the country the numbs gets a press release from the white house stop, i did not say that. i am, but if you re a local news guy or not or newswoman, news director, it goes from the without unfiltered, and fear and loathing in middle america. this is what people will get. it provides a hot meal to 80 seniors, but the possible sequestration could bring that all to a halt. fayetteville will lose $145,000, money that helps level the playing field for students in poverty. special education would take a $91,000 hit. one of the biggest impacts to the city and frankly all of liberty county are civiliandowns. thousands of people get a paycheck because they work at ft. stewart. reporter: more than 3,000 children take part of the head start program, but like many agencies it s been bracing for cuts from the sequester. if inspectors are pulled from the line, it could slow production, that means you ll by paying more for your meat. if this would go away, you re talking a lot of people that would not have a nice hot male. does that take you back? your hot meals are going to be gone. and pay more for your meat. all these things are true. no, they re not. but the point is it shouldn t. no, they re not. listen joe c mon, let s bottom line it. it s stupid cuts, mika. exactly. but the $85 billion in stupid cruz. cbo said it will only by $44 billion in stupid cuts. it s stupid cuts. 44 billion of the 3.6 trillion budget in stupid cuts that s one penny out of a dollar of federal spending, will probably survive considering the federal spending sh but it s the penny we spent to inspect your meat. john heilman, so many people say that our government is not efficient. maybe not 99 cents out of the dollar is inefficient, but this one penny out of a dollar keeps our planes in the air, keeps our meats safe and cheap, feeds seniors, takes care of young children. meals on wheels. hot meals on wheels. lindsey says this one penny protects us from al qaeda. head start. the soviets from dennis rodman. this one penny, if we could just hearts in the p s is i s is i s, it could be a efficient government. this is a dreadful penny to cut. with all the wasteful spending, why cut this one penny? why can t they get together and make real cuts. the republicans are trying to make the president do it. why don t they get together? does anyone want to answer? you want to. okay. if this one penny they re going to cut is so dreadful i ll cut the one penny. if you believe like the president believes that this 44 billion out of 3.6 trillion is going to destroy national defense, is going to endanger americans life and seniors will be thrown out into the streets, don t you say, you know what? if you guys don t have the courage to save seniors and keep meat prices low, i ll step in and do it. you re using a very good illustration to make the point that there s a lot of scare talk around this. it s a political exercise in which people are trying to drive rhetorical points. this is about a bigger thing, and the bigger thing is, you know, this is i think not just about this fight that s coming to at least a temporary conclusion today, but about the fights to come over the debt ceiling and the continuing resolution, the president is playing a hard game of politics right now, to try to get the whip hand over republicans. republicans are playing another hard game with the president. this is not about that one penny on the dollar, and i think you re vividly illustrating the fact that s a rhetorical but its about a serious thing, about you who will have political advantage forward over the course of the next few months. the president right now is if you re a politician, this is what you do. the president is getting his sea legs. he s got the republicans on their heels. he s bearing down on them. he could give them relief, do the cuts himself, he s staying after them here. he s not talking about marriage equality, putting them on their heels there. this week conservatives have been put in the position to be against the civil rights act of 1965. domestic violence. last night they were against violence against women. right. rich lowery with the national review wrote a column the party right now we re sort of in the ditch. just find an old blanket on the side of the road and pull it over you, because we re going to be in the ditch for a while. but republicans some of the wounds are self-inflicted, but the president is on a run, and he s not get to let them off the matt. kelly, i say, okay, how come you won t talk? it s because we won t raise taxes. the president wants to close loopholes. i will ask in that same conversation, are you for closing loop holes. they ll say yes. why then can t they come up with the cuts they want, since they need so badly to be done. i don t understand. closing the loophole is something that john boehner said he is for. the thing that really counts in terms of how they negotiate is they don t want to spend it now in this conversation. they re prepared to do it in a bigger conversation about reforming the tax code, about trying to change the structure of entitlements for the long term. they say they re willing to do it, but not for a smaller package. when you go back to where we were in the summer of 2011 when all this was coming into being, people didn t believe this would actually happen. here we are, we ve sort of worn down people s expectations about what government can or cannot do, what congress will or won t do, and they ve let the 11th hour come and nearly go. instead of the usual hectic pace to resolve it it was a big, mheh. this party is so intent on making responsible fiscal decisions. these cuts are random across the board and some are cruel and ridiculous, which you found out was less than what we were talking about. the cruellest spinning. why can t they bring something to the table? why would they put this on the table when the president is only proposing to close loopholes which they agree with? because republicans afford a approach. whoa. worlds are colliding. you guys want to finish? please. i want to hear. that s some phlegm. so republicans support a balanced approach. mr. wolfe? we have all day. we have three hours. no, i really i m truly curious. the republicans have taken the president that he supports a balanced approach. what have we had? we ve had the fiscal cliff and now we have sequester. the president decided and congress decided that the fiscal cliff, instead of being a balance of tax increases and spending cuts would be 100% tax increases. so now we move to the next step in the process, and this is the sequester. that has always been about spending cuts. yeah. and so if our last exercise, budgetary exercise was 100% tax increases, let s make this all about spending cuts, the two do balance each other, and we move forward, and then let s talk about a balanced approach where we ll close the loop holes, which i support, but mr. president, you say you support reforming medicare, medicaid and social security. if you really support that, we ll do that all together. i don t think that the republicans do support that. you have to explain to me. the republicans do support that. really? yeah, they do support that. i don t think the president sports entitlement reform. i mean, so here we are and we re going around in circles. richard wolffe is there, his throat is cleared of a massive clump of phlegm besides oh, gross now. well, thank you. not you. okay, stop. stop. so oop perplexed. first of all, let s all agree that not only are they getting the whole approach wrong, and when i mean they, we re talking about reps in washington, but they re also getting themselves wrong. the sequester was designed to force themselves into a position, and they didn t even believe themselves, didn t believe their own deadlines, didn t agree with their own motives. if republicans are not willing to cut defense cuts, then the sequester was structured all wrong, and they don t know who they are. if you don t know who you are, how do you get to a deal? you said something about the president wanting 100% tax rises, all taxes in terms of the revenue i was talking about the fiscal cliff was 100% i think it s a mistake to pull those things apart. the whole strategy was to deal with the bush tax cuts and spending and lump them together, so in splitting it apart, we ve ended up in this limbo. coming up on morning jo celebrity chef tom colicchio. unacceptable, tom s new film takes a look at this fact. and general odierno joins us, but bill has the forecast. last night a fire caused evacuations in southern california. this is supposed to be the end of the rainy season. it was scary of the possibility of things to come. this is in riverside county, just a good safe distance away from los angeles and also san diego, but some homes were threatened and evacuations took place. that fire is only 20% contained. it s going to be warm and windy out there today, so good luck with the firefighters on the scene, about 200 of them. just a few snow showers, it doesn t feel like march around much of the country. if you re in the blue or pink, you re below freezing windchills, so a chilly begins to march. here s your weekend forecast. today, no real big travel issues out there. as we go through your saturday and sunday, we continue very chilly. the next storm to watch actually comes into montana and the dakotas starting on sunday. this has a chance to be a significant snowstorm as it moves across the country. these are just rough estimates, but here s a general idea of the timing of this storm. sunday in the northern plains, dips down tuesday somewhere into the tennessee valley and could develop into a stronger storm tuesday night. in other words, travel issues the middle of next week, especially the mid-atlantic. of course, next week i ll try to pinpoint who has to deal with what, including the possibility of heavy snow. we have a shot of a chilly new york city. skating rink is still open. it s going to be a cold weekend. you re watching morning joe brewed by starbucks. 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[ male announcer ] the durability of the volkswagen passat. pass down something he will be grateful for. good arm. that s the power of german engineering. back to you. here we are, unable to make sure that these young men and women who are serving and in harm s way have the equipment and the training and everything they need to defend this nation. we are doing the men and women who are serving this nation a great disservice. and the president did them a disservice when he said in the campaign, not to worry, not to worry, sequestration won t happen. general odierno, the chief of staff for the army, a man who s got decorations from here to here, said that he cannot replace the men and women who are serving in afghanistan under this sequestration, because he doesn t have the ability to train their replacements. isn t that alarm enough for us? here he is, u.s. army chief of staff general ray odierno. decorated from here to look and looking good. welcome to the show. thank you. the one thing we have worried about is the cuts to defense. not saying that defense could use some serious trimming and streamlining, but they cuts that good into effect officially, what are you looking at? there s a couple things, not only sequestration, but we also have a problem with the continuing resolution. the fact that we haven t had a budget this year also causes us about a $6 billion problem. it s a combination of $12 billion in cuts and sequestration, plus a $6 billion problem because of the continuing resolution didn t put the money in the right places for us in the army. it s both of those things, so first of all it s about i haven t had a budget since i ve been chief of staff, 18 months, so we keep working on continuing resolutions. so that doesn t allow me to plan. supposed to give you a budget, where would you put the blame on that? its think it s coming to agreement in congress, i mean, and we submit a budget every year, they run it through committee, and actually the defense department budget was agreed upon, but they couldn t agree on the rest of the government s budget, so they went to a continuing resolution this year. and so this causes problems for us, because it s a mismatch in the way the money is allocated. we can t move it. we re not allowed to move it under the auspices of a continuing resolution. then you put on top of that sequestration, so in the last six months of this year, i have a $12 billion problem just on our operations and maintenance accounts. that s what was being referenced there. so we ll have to stop training this year, because we re going to put all our funds to those currently in afghanistan and fund them, because they re in harm s way, obviously. so what i worry about is will we be able to train those that come the time after that. we ll have to stop training for the rest of this year. what are the immediate impacts of sequestration that you can see in the department of defense in the next week, two, three weeks? it probably will there won t be much in the next couple weeks. where you ll see it is probably away the first of april, 251,000 in the army, 251,000 people furloughs, probably about 8,000 jobs that will be lost. we ll have to cut training, cut support to our installations and our families. all of those things will begin to happen probably around the first of april. there s a couple things that can happen. by the 27th of march is when the continuing resolution ends. that helps us a bit if they fix that problem, but we still have sequestration. and in 13, we have no say in where those cuts go. they are directed in 13 with sequestration. beyond that, we can do some planning and potentially try to work through hout we best manage the dollars we re given. richard? general, some people, actually some people around this table this morning and probably a lot of people who you talked to or maybe your liaison people talking to congress, they don t seem to be taking it seriously. you re being alarmist or stuff you can shuffle around, right? it s a big army. you have lots of money here and lots of money there, so help me understand. when you say it kicks in in april, is it really april? is it bad planning and no way to run a war? is it really going to deteriorate what you can do in the battlefield? part of this is how sequestration works. so in 13 the cuts are directed. i have no say. i can t move them around. it is part of every line item is designated a certain percentage. whatever the final number ends up being, so i can t move it around to fit what we re doing in 13. beyond 13, if we submit that budget, if it gets approved, and then i throw on top of that the inning resolution, which provides a shortfall, now you re talking a lot of money. it s in very specific accounts. we procurement accounts to buy weapons and systems, operational systems which pay foss salaries, and training and maintaining equipment. it s in those accounts where you have shortfalls. i can t move money because of the continuing resolution and because of the way sequestration is enacted. that causes part of the problem s well. melody? general, i m wondering about the ripple effect. some of what i ve read is you will have to adjust medical care for those enlisted and their families. we ve talked about the furloughs that will take place. do you have any sense of what the ripple effect will be for your people, not to mention the communities in which you re located? the problem we have is, although these large cuts are in the last six months of 13, where they really start to affect is 14 and 15. i m going to have to cut 37,000 hours worth of flying hours for helicopters pilots. that s somewhere between 500 and 750 pilots who will not be trained. you can t make that up. so it will move into 14, into 15. it will take us two years to catch up if we don t do the flying hours these years, because you only have so much capacity in order to train, for example. it s those kind of things that will cause us problems, and then we ll have to take some potential actions in our installations, where we won t have some of the programs that we have now. we won t eliminate them, but we ll have to trim them. some of our counseling programs, some of the things important to us, we won t be able to do. you can t make that up. the people who need the counseling need it now. a completely unrelated topic, we re talking about guns in washington. i hope we do something personally. we are trying to plan some events around the country, trying to address the issue and talk to people who are concerned about this. do you see any place in our society for bushmasters, for americans to buy bushmasters and other similar types of i have some concerns about it, you know, with the job i have, i see too much violence already. i ve had to witness chaos in war and killing. so what i would like to see us do is come to an agreement where we are identifying. we can at least register people. our suicide rate is very high, and the large majority of sue sides are done by guns. so what we d like to do is get them registered to at least understand who has them. that helps us to help them. that s a military problem, that s a bit separate issue what about assault weapons? this is my personal opinion. personal opinion. my personal opinion is i don t think we need them, but i do think people have the right to bear arms. we all agree with that. i don t think we ve met someone here who is against that. and i think people would be allow to do do that. general ray odierno, thank you for your professional and personal opinions on the show. coming up next, a place at the table. tom colicchio teams up with lori silverbush on a new project. so if you have a flat tire, dead battery, need a tow or lock your keys in the car, geico s emergency roadside assistance is there 24/7. oh dear, i got a flat tire. hmmm. uh. yeah, can you find a take where it s a bit more dramatic on that last line, yeah? yeah i got it right here. someone help me!!! i have a flat tire!!! well it s good. good for me. what do you think? geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. email marketing from constant contact reaches people in a place they re checking every day their inbox. and it gives you the tools to create custom emails that drive business. it s just one of the ways constant contact can help you grow your small business. sign up for your free trial today at constantcontact.com/try. bjorn earns unlimited rewards for his small business. take these bags to room 12 please. 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[ green giant ] ho ho ho. green giant one student in particular, rosie, i just felt she wasn t applying herself in the classroom. i couldn t figure out where that attitude was coming from. what i realized was the main issue is that she was hungry. i struggle a lot. most of the time it s because my stomach is really hurting. i m just looking at the teacher, and i look at her and all i think about is food, so i have these visions in my eyes. sometimes when i look at her, i envision her as a banana, and everybody in the classes like apples or oranges, and then i m like oh, great. that was a clip from the documentary a place at the table. wow. here is the executive producer of the film, and tom colicchio, also the film s codirector and producer, lori silverbush. thank you for having us here. that looks impactful. obviously it has a message, but now what s the next step? it looks amazing. one of the things we were most inspired by was the fact that 1968 cbs aired a documentary called hunger in america exposing a shocking condition that americans were in some cases starving, and americans watched this and they called their congress people. they reacted with outrage. within two weeks we had a bipartisan action. senators bob dole and george mcgovern reached across the aisle and built our modern foot safety net program, and frankly they funded it by the 1970s we had nearly eradicated hunger, and we ve gotten all the way back because the language and philosophy of the times shifted away, and how it s in our collective best interests to do that, and how there s lazy people asking for a free ride, and so here we are. you are worried about the sequester, because the cuts that do happen are not good for the issue of hunger. 600,000 pregnant women, infants and children under 5 will lose their benefits. it s just when you think about it, it s the most vulnerable people in our country. if you look at, in doing the film, we really wanted to put a face to hunger. there s 50 million americans who are food insecure in this country, one sixth of the population. people are sort of accustomed to thinking about hunger in terms of third world hunger, famine victims, yet we have americans walking around that look pretty much normal, but they re actually hungry, and malnourished. it s just something that we can for example. it does seem ridiculous, the school lunch issue, the quality of our food, our environment, and the obesity crisis, which has everything to do with processed foods, and actually coincides directly with hunger, if i may, because some of the children who are not eating well are malnourished are eating bad foods that make them obese, so they re unhealthy, hungry and obese. i m actually passionate about this and i m going to get angry right now, because in a country of such tremendous wealth, in a country of such tremendous plenty, the idea that we have people who are both suffering from obesity and so many young people suffering from hunger is astonishing. i mean, it s outrageous. what really makes me angry, almost as angry as knowing there are hungry kids, is hearing politicians suggest that food stamps are somehow a failure of the government, as opposed to a mark of compassion. we have hungry people in our own community and people think it s a mark of failure? our a failure of the people who somehow have somehow failed in the social contract. but when you have in excess of 43 billion individuals in this country who rely on food assistancer we re no longer talking about losers or slackers or any of the language that people like to attach. this is a tremendous investment in people. we are showing lawyers, doctors, teachers and celebrities, people who are making it today because at a certainly time in their lives, they needed food assistance and our government supplied it. i think what s also interesting, from working on the film, we found that 80% of s.n.a.p. recipients have at least one member of the family, so we re talking about working poor. that s where we are. you look at what the u.s. government subsidizes. 84% commodity crops, cotton, wheat, corn, rice and soy. 15% dairy, livestock and another 1% fruits and vegetables. welcome to our food environment. so it s easy to demonize someone for making a bad choice and feeding their kids unhealthy food as if they have a choice, because unhealthy food is really inexpensive and healthy food is expensive. if we move some of the subsidies over to fruits and vegetables, maybe we can lower the price and they can have a choice. and not corn, perhaps, which is a vegetable, but also is i don t have a problem with corn per se, but we re subsidizing corn that s going into ethanol, going to feed, to feed a massive livestock venture that s not healthy for anybody. 23.5 millions americans living in what s called food deserts. what s a food desert? it can be urban or rural. in fact 75% of food deserts are urban, where you have to travel great distances or spend a lot of time or money, gas, getting to a store that s fully stocked or stocked with any fresh produce at all. we show one of our amazing characters in this movie, she has to drive 45, 50 minutes each way to find any fruits or vegetables, because in her neighborhood there s tons of packaged goods, tons of really unhealthy calories, junk food is abundant, but to go that far just to make sure your kids get some vegetables or fruit in your day. so it is what tom is saying. we re used to this culture of blame, saying you people making those bad choices, but, you know, is it really a choice if you have to drive an hour each weight to get broccoli? we don t have a problem beings compassionate about hungry people overseas, but that s something that s hard to understand, but also we don t help people understand how they can how they can create their own food. cook seg a skill. who is passing on those skills? if you re working a job, you re going to go for the easy option, and the option is going to be unhealthy, and you may not even know what to do with that fresh food, even if you can buy it. and assuming someone has time. if they re trying to work two jobs, trying to provide for their family, time is a luxury. when we were making this film, we met so many unbelievable people. we met a cop who has to go to food pantries to feed his family. we met teachers who suffered as one teacher, this wonderful woman, she suffered hunger as a child, and it has made her feel inferior and sort of laboring under a cloud of shame her whole life. what does it say about our nation if we re letting 17 million children grow up with a psychological and emotional, you know, scar, real will i. you talk about compassion, richard. we also don t have compassion for the growing numbers of more bidly obese americans, many who are extremely poor and don t have access to good food. take it to the next step, my book coming occupy in may, which i ll give you a copy of and how these foods are adetective. so it creates a cycle of hell for them, bad health, and a short life. we have no compassion for this. these people are called undisciplined. it s not. it s a complete crock. the system is completely stacked against our health. if we can t get our leaders to be compassionate, look at the dollars and cents. it s costing our economy $167 billion in health care costs, on product activity. it s obvious. the estimate is about 30 billion can fix the hunger problem that would save $167 billion in the long run. it s obvious. thank you for this gift. i appreciate it, tom. you must watch the show. this makes my iphone 5 connect with my 4 charger? 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interesting, mika, personal income and spending. personal income was down 3.6%, spending up, and basically that says that consumer debt could be on the rise. interesting thing about income up 2.6% in december, a lot of companies gave more dividends toward the end of the years, so we don t have that in january, plus we have the payroll taxes going back up. we ll see if the patterns next month. stock futures are down about 50 points in the dow after yesterday, if you looked at the headline, down 20, it was a blah day, but less than 20 points from an all-time high in the dow and in the last hour trading dropped like a stone, so they thought maybe it was electronic trading or what have you. still not a lot of chatter about huge fears about sequester, but we ll see. groupon, probably the best farewell memo that i can remember from andrew mason. he starts it off by says after 4 1/2 years, he did the classic, this is great, i want to spend more time with my family, and then said, just kidding. i got fired. at least the honesty is fantastic. i love the people who come to it took me a bit when i got fired, because it s so stunning. so he was right there. it s a horrible feeling, but honesty is great. we re smart enough to know what the real deal is. exactly. you ve got it. brian, thank you very much. up next, the morning joe weekend review. 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miami where the former florida governor made it official. good evening carl. reporter: hi. yes, indeed he did make it official today. long expected, but as a practical political matter he s been omnipresent in this race since the beginning of the year. i ve decided i m a candidate for president of the united states of america. he says he can fix what s broken in america with conservative principles and new leadership. we re not going to clean up the mess in washington by helping elect the people who have broken it. bush is an insider. he s the son and brother of the last two republican presidents. he s tied or leading both nationally and in the first four states to hold votes next february. he has huge advantages in fundraiseing and name recognition. many conservatives dislike his support for common core principles and immigration. the next president of the united states will pass meaningful immigration reform. his wife is mexican and he launched his run at miami-dade college. i will campaign as i would serve, going everywhere, speaking to everyone keeping my word facing the issues without flinching, and staying true to what i believe. u.s. senator marco rubio, a former protege may be his rival. he genuinely likes, cares for, and respects jeb. bush s brother and father were not on hand but his mom, who discouraged his 2016 candidacy, was. frankly with all these reporters around i m watching what she says too. please say hello to my mom, barbara bush. barbara bush got some of the biggest applause of the day. though jeb bush gets knocked as the establishment candidate, it s worth noting that establishment candidates have been winning the nomination since the reagan era. let s break down what bush is facing now that he s entered the race. good evening, brett. hi, shannon. when john kasich said he thought jeb bush s candidacy would take up all the oxygen he was expressing the view that many hold. he faces many head winds winds. the most obvious is his name. another is his position on immigration immigration which the gop right considers amnesty. bush s conservative detractors may not know much about his conservative record as governor but they re well aware of those two positions. it has helped him amass a campaign war chest. the good news for bush is that polls suggest he s very much in the thick of the race and has a base of support to build on. he s not known as a strong o orator but he can make a speech. what he needs now is a hearing. do you think he s going to get that hearing? he ll certainly have time and he ll certainly have the money to mount advertisements to stay in the race long enough but he does have strikes against him. and i don t think he s going to do what some other candidates might choose to do in that set of circumstances, which is to move to his right, abandon old positions in order to try to win over those who are suspicious of him. i don t think he s going to do that because i think he believes if he did, it would compromise his election chances. there wasn t a mention of im immigration or trying to sell that. a heckler brought it up. he made a point of saying not by executive order. that was quick of him. that sets him apart from president obama with whom he country does not entirely disagree with him on the substantive issue. hillary clinton s campaign is trying to balance a hard push for liberals with an appeal to the great american middle something she will need to win next year and much of that effort involves money. who gets to keep it and who gets to spend it? ed henry is covering the clinton campaign tonight. reporter: hillary clinton took her rebooted campaign to new hampshire today where she focused on spreading the wealth and was quickly confronted about how she can pull off a populist campaign after she and her husband made $25 million last year. i m very grateful for the success bill and i have had. reporter: clinton did take several campaign questions today. a campaign official insisted a snub of a reporter had nothing to do with the newspaper s aggressive coverage of clinton and instead boils down to a dispute over whether the pool system should consist of those already at the white house. i m not running for some americans but for all americans. reporter: then quickly veered off into a state of the union style laundry list of liberal programs as the former secretary of state spent just two minutes of the 40 minute speech on foreign policy. she suggested gop leaders are racist for opposing her efforts to increase voting rights. i really am quite amazed at all the republican-led efforts to disempower and disenfranchise young people, poor people people where disabilities people of color. what part of democracy are they afraid of? reporter: clinton finally stopped waffling on the pacific trade deal saying it should fail without major changes and she criticized president obama saying it s time for him to listen to nancy pelosi. she suggested she ll fight harder for workers than president obama. mayor bill de blasio did not attend saturday s rally in his city and is holding out on his endorsement. he warned she needs to get more specific about dealing with income equality. i want to see those details. i think people all over the country want to see those details. clinton hasn t said yet how she ll pay for these new programs from universal pre-k to college education. ed henry traveling live with the former secretary. thank you, ed. concerns over a breakdown and bailout talks for greeks sent stocks downward. the dow lost 108 and is in the red for the year. the s&p 500 fell 10 and the nasdaq dropped 1. the u.s. goes after another major terrorist. did we get him? fox 16 in little rock arkansas a civilian armed with a rifle was shot and critically wounded trying to enter an air force base. an injured bystander is also hospitalized. the base was on lock down but since has returned to normal status. as the state supreme court upholds the firing of a worker using 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ethnic cleansing. the u.s. is leading the coalition providing air support the kurds. u.s. air power may have taken out a top al qaeda member this weekend. reporter: he was known as the one-eyed algerian. he broke away from al qaeda to form a more vicious terror group called the signed in blood battalion in 2012. two fighter jets and four precision guided bombs targeted a building in eastern libya where he was meeting other islamic fighters early sunday. i m not in a position to confirm the results of the strike but when we have more details, we ll share it with you. reporter: the attack on the amenas facility left at least 38 hostages dead including three americans. the state department offered a $5 million reward for the terror terrorist. the u.s. military strike is the first in libya since the u.s. embassy withdrew last summer. libya has in essence become a failed state in the four years since the u.s. decided to help overthrow gaddafi. we re concerned about the situation in libya and isis-affiliated groups there. reporter: isis groups have shown videos of them beheading christians. al qaeda s number two and the head of aqap was targeted by a drone strike last friday in yemen. he was reportedly near the port city of mulaka. he has a $25 million reward on his head. thank you, jennifer. there is new information tonight further sullying the reputation of bowe bergdahl. it s a never before heard account of how he landed in the hands of terrorists. reporter: at the height of the afghan war, an american contract set up a network of informants to secure the release of an american journalist. the network came across surprising information about another case. according to a former cia officer who is speaking publicly for the first time. an american soldier along with two or three afghan soldiers had been captured. they were use ing using reporter: a 30 year veteran of the cia said he had no idea who the soldier was until his informant said search teams were calling out 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sharing details about the plan to pick up richard matt and david sweat aided by tools she allegedly provided and shuttle them to a secluded spot seven hours away. it s been reported that it allegedly involved killing joyce s husband lyle. asked if they were going to take any type of physical action to harm lyle mitchell, i m not going to comment on that. reporter: mitchell just met her lawyer a few minutes before today s hearing because her assigned public defender stepped aside due to a conflict of interest. schools that had been closed reopened and nervous parents sent their kids back to class. back at the scene of the crime, the manhole has been sealed shut just a city block away from a cell block being investigated by new york s governor andrew cuomo. he wants an independent investigator to quote, report back on what steps need to be taken to insure this situation is not repeated. now a push to answer questions. why weren t they checked every 30 minutes? why are these guys in civilian clothes? why are they walking around? these people should be kept in jail and not given any privileges at all. reporter: 800 exhausted law enforcement officers haven t found much but the da may be ready to reveal the identities of other accomplices. there are other people that may have been arrested based on the information we continue to receive on a daily basis. reporter: shannon, it is hard to show feelings of fear on tv but they are everywhere here. a waitress told her for years that her and her husband have been arguing about guns in the house, but now there is a firearm on every table just in case a fugitive murderer shows up at the front door. kids are going back to school. a lot of folks concerned about sending them out. police are still checking these roadblocks and vehicles. how does it look to you? reporter: shannon, the roadblocks are particularly intense for everybody, including us. we have nothing to hide. we have nothing in the trunk, but a handful of officers will swarm around cars at a variety of intersections, a handful of intersections near here. the way that it works is two officers will flank either side of the trunk and they ll point their guns at the trunk while someone else comes and slowly opens it up just to see if there s anybody inside. they really have no idea if these people are hiding out in the woods, if they are in a house, or if they re in the trunk of somebody s rental car. thank you. the spokane washington naacp president whose parents say she s actually white has resigned. rachel dolezal has long been a figure in the community s civil rights community. the city of spokane is investigating whether she lied about her race. up next president obama is on a losing streak. his struggle to remain relevant against some pretty tall odds. what has already been a very difficult spring for president obama could soon become a disastrous summer. tonight a kroerntcorrespondent at the white house shows us a president whose legacy is hanging in the balance. reporter: turns out, it was a political walk of shame. the president was still unable to sway nancy pelosi or fellow democrats to support his fast track for transpacific authority. republican house majority leader kevin mccarthy said it was the democrats who hit their leader the hardest, saying quote, i ve never seen a party do this to their president. it s ironic. they re the ones who are making him a lame duck president. he has work to do with his party and i hope he can get that work done and can fix this. reporter: there s little doubt the president s swagger has been staggered. in each case the president faces an uphill battle that can be decided against him in the coming weeks. to say nothing of his promises to reform immigration and the problems at guantanamo bay. the transfer would not have occurred if the secretary of defense were not satisfied that the threat of these individuals posed to american national security was not sufficiently mitigated. reporter: quote, president obama is once again putting his legacy above the safety and security of americans. while it s unclear how the president s legacy items will affect how he is viewed in the long run, a majority of those surveyed in the latest fox news poll say they disapprove of the job the president is doing right now. 48 to 45% within the margin of error. he has focused on the process in a way his achievements could be accomplished, but the possibility they could be undone means his legacy will not last. reporter: he called the speaker of the house john boehner and gop lawmakers said to be considering a second vote that will be a companion to the transpacific partnership. thank you. the spacecraft that landed on a comet a few months ago and then went silent is talking again. it communicated last night for the second time since waking up a few days ago. apparently as the comet approaches the sun, the solar panels absorbed enough light to get it working again. there was the magna carta. a big deal was made today in england of its 800th birthday. reporter: beside the river river thames 800 years ago history was made. the king could not impose his will unjustly on his citizens the basis of constitutional democracy. we talk about the law of the land and this is the very land where that law and the rights that flow from it took root. reporter: the current royal powers queen elizabeth and king-to-be prince william and a lot of americans, including attorney general loretta lynch were there. the american bar association erected this monument nearly 60 years ago. we need to continually educate the people about the magna carta and the separation of powers. reporter: the magna carta is a modern document raised in various legal matters. chief justice of the supreme court, john roberts, use it in a recent case. if we re going to enjoy a stable peaceful and prosperous world, we must ensure that the core principles of the magna carta continue across the world. 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to focus on what matters most. so here s what it comes down to. our country is on a very bad course and the question is, what are we going to do about it. the question for me is what am i going to do about it and i ve decided i m a candidate for president of the united states of america. the mystery is over. it s official. let s bring in our panel to talk about jeb launching his campaign today. steve hayes and radio talk show host laura ingram and a publisher of the national journal. what did you make of the speech? it was a pretty good speech. i thought there was some humility. i think he was more forward- thinking than hillary clinton. i think for jeb bush, the hero in his story was him. he talked about religion freedom. he talked about all kinds of things. one thing that wasn t noted was a a mention of immigration. here s what he said in response to folks who showed up to push him on that issue. by the way, the next president of the united states will pass meaningful immigration reform so that that will be solved not by executive order. that s some of the most fire i saw out of him in the speech today. i think for those of us who believe it s going to be difficult to out pander hillary on this issue, that kind of demonstrated it a little bit, right? they said they want citizenship now, and jeb has an idea about how to move forward, normalize status you have to pay your way to citizenship. it s earned citizenship. hillary is going to come forward and say that might work in a republican primary, jeb, but i think these hard-working people should become citizens expeditiously. you want to delay what these people have worked so hard for. how dare you. i don t know what his answer is going to be that. it will help a little bit with the grass roots, but it s going to be a little tough. i think it was smart that he didn t bring it up in the speech. you think his speech played better to the middle than hers will? we know what the democrats can do with getting out the base. i don t think the base of the republican is going to rush to vote for jeb because. i think that was an interesting moment. he did get a dig at the current president saying i m not just going to do it by executive order. hillary would be more of the same policies. you may be right about the politics about how this playingses inplays in the general election. i think the question about his candidacy is will he campaign more like the conservative reformest governor he was for eight years in florida, or will he be a person who is a critic of the republican party? i think if you judge it based on this speech it s certainly more the former. it is more running on his record. he wanted to highlight the things that he s done in florida, the fact that he made some conservative reforms. he certainly spent a lot of time several references to his opponents in the republican primary whom he would claim haven t done anything. they don t have a record they can run on. i think that was the emphasis of the speech. i thought he started off a little unsteady but as he progressed, i thought the speech improved. he did play a video at the event. at the event today, so much highlight on his time as governor. a fellow floridian had this to say about how she thinks jeb works. he would do anything and everything to prevent you from getting your way and him and to make sure that hell would freeze over before his way would not be adopted, so it s important to know that this is the style of our former governor. not exactly a prescription for breaking the log jam we have in washington right now. ron, he s going to point to things he got done with democrats across the aisle in florida and say what he s saying is in direct contrast to what he s going to say is reality. it is a record that in the middle in a general election democrats can be able to use against him. when you say, i know how to get things done what i say i ll do i ll get done the american public right now is looking for a leader. i know if they are looking for a bush or a clinton, but they re looking for a leader that can fix things. religious freedom and talking about the little sisters of the poor being attacked. that s something we expect a lot more of the conservatives to talk about. he s smart to mention that. is there a easier group to defend then the little sisters of the poor? yes, it was a nod to religious freedom. but when it comes to the primary contest, you re going to have people out there for years fighting for this. ted cruz has been out there for years. i think marco rubio has a good story to tell. for all these years where we needed jeb s voice, because he s a really smart guy and he does have a really strong record in florida, he was kind of quiet. he went underground except on immigration. he s out there making money. that s fine. but on these critical struggles in the country, we didn t see much from him. conservatives could have used his help and he wasn t there. he s been out of office in florida so long that 75% of floridians that are alive have not had a chance to vote for him. next up hillary clinton wants to keep presidential politics in her family as well. i don t think americans are against success. i think americans are against people who they pull themselves up. at some point we are in all of this together. those of us who do have opportunities ought to be doing more to help people do the same. former secretary of state hillary clinton out and about speaking today taking some questions, not from her our own ed henry who did try. relaunch of her campaign this weekend. we re back with our panel now. steve, i will start with you. she only leads bernie sanders by 46 points. where does she go from here? i know that i m sort of i m i think there is going to be a moment where hillary clinton is vulnerable in this campaign. i don t know when it will be. but it wouldn t surprise me if bernie sanders has a moment now. is not going to be the democratic nominee. but a could he have some enthusiasm? we are seeing enthusiasm for him in the early states. wisconsin state democratic party did a straw poll in which he had 41% to hillary clinton s 49 %. i think we have a bernie sanders moment. the question is can he build on that and actually threaten her candidacy? probably not. could he be a place holder for somebody else to come in and take on challenge of vulnerable hillary clinton in a serious way? i think that s an open question. i think we have seen from her both in her speech and in her questions today the sort of mechanical rogue focus group answers that will not stand her well as the campaign rolls on. laura she answered questions today. yes. i think she did as well as she could have done over the weekend, i really do. what else is she going to say. she is not going to run on her record. she is talk about the same policies of economic disparity and so forth that has been ginning up the left wing base. the same woman remember, who is in the goldman sachs primary the ceo goldman sachs hank jeb. who is going to win this? they agree on a lot of issues. i think hillary and jeb on some of these core financial issues they might seem really far apart now wreath seems to be saying either one of them in the end would probably be okay for us. hillary s rhetoric aside i don t think wall street is worrying. here is what she is wanting to say to differentiate and going after the g.o.p. and essentially dividing and warning people they don t like you. here s a bit of what she had to say. i really am quite amaze the at all of the republican-led effort to disempower and disenfranchise young people, poor people, people with disabilities people of color, and they turn their backs on gay people who love each other when they should be joining us in saying, clearly, no to discrimination. they even shame and blame women. rather than respect our right to make our own reproductive health decisions. okay. so, she checked off a lot of groups and a lot of issues there. we can impact those. one of the things she keeps talking about is voting rights. why do republicans do not want you to be able to vote? our most recent polling shows 70% of people think that we need to have voter id laws. that s an overwhelming majority. but it s something she keepsg they don t like you they don t want you to have rights, they don t want you to have a voice. if you want to make a case that we are no longer an agriculture era that we only have to vote on tuesdays where we are not only at the market and in church i m for that i m for improving the voting system. if you want a wedge in the other party i don t think that s what we are looking for in leadership. this reminds me of the whole election bush vs. clinton this weekend. clinton vs. bush. the first time we had this kind of weekend we had what maybe 100 web sites on this thing that only a few of us knew was called the internet. 87% of the voting public at the time was white. swing voters were all the rage and i i had a full head of hair. times have changed and i just don t know if we want more of the same. well, and thinking of change, she talks about people turning their backs on gay people who love each other. that s a position that she held not that long ago herself. until about five minutes ago. i think ron hit it though. we san odd dynamic right now playing out in america two candidates if you had to bet today it and things could change, it could be anybody. bet today probably bet it s going to be a clinton vs. bush again. i think the country is screaming, no, no, no. please give us someone else. and, yet it seems like this is what our system, whatever we want to call, it is going to perhaps deliver again. if that is the case, and i would speak from the republican side. if that s the case, i think the republican party is going to look at a whole new nominating process is. maybe it s vote all the states on one day. we have a national delegate contest on one day so we don t have this momentum building of money being able to clear cut the field with one candidate. but it does seem like ron said like the remainder s table or something. it looks all kind of old. if you look at that argument in particular, the voter i.d. argument, i mean, she is drawing this straight from the 1990s. at the end of the 199 os the justice department under bill clinton launched several investigations about apparent republican efforts to suppress the vote. they never went anywhere there was no evidence of it. but, it ginned up the votes from people that she wanted and president clinton wanted to come out. she is doing the same thing. i think it s a deeply cynical move and i don t think it will work. not only will it not work it ensures that she won t be able to get a pass so much animus after this campaign. 31 states have early voting already. i think we need reform but we are not going to get it this way. panel thanks so much. stay tuned for how far one little girl will go 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setting the store ablaze. when you start a building on fire. now the police need your help catching the callous criminals. and a day in the sun. and two young people in shark attacks on the same stretch of the beach. it is all happening now ing now. we begin with a high profile candidate about to come in to the crowded field. jeb bush set to make it official today. i am jennaly. and i am eric shaun in for jon scott. six months after mr. bush said he was exploring a presidential run. he plans a speech in miami in two hours from now. he released this video on line where he highlights his experience in florida. i am proud of what we accomplished in florida and made a difference and grew our economy and led the nation in job growth and protected women from domestic violence. is he a front runner or is it a toss up. we have our guests. welcome to you both. let me start wu. what can we expect this afternoon when he announces and what does he have to do. he has to set himself apart from all of the other candidates and including the legacy of his brother and father. and if you look at the video jeb releases it is uplifting and forward thinking. the american people know how bad things are and want to know how good it can be. he is the only two- term republican governor from florida. he talks about his record and future. he will be a formidable candidate. a lot of people talking about the family connection. he cut taxes and created jobs in florida. can he run on that record? he is going to run on that record. i think all. talk about him running away from his family is crazy talk. he can t. and he is a bush and people who are not going to vote for him because his last name is bush is not going to vote for him and nothing he says will change that. he could surprise a lot of people. they have their own perceptions of what he s like and he s different than his brother. and i think he s going to demonstrate that. i seen him give a speech and he has some thoughtful ideas about the future which is what he has to do. he has to make that case and he will do that in his speech and as he moves forward. i would not count jeb bush out. if they do they that they don t look. 100 million plus and still up. what about the tea party conservative and common core they don t. but the gop has a broad and big tent. jeb bush will appeal to the broad base and he has a record. this guy led in a state with no income tax and came in and had a small reserve in their budget and left with 9 billion in reserve. and cut taxes over year. he was the governor this is an executive leader at a time when america needs someone to solve our economic problems and get our house in order and keep our country strong. he s up to being the president. nlatest polls, even with the record, joe, look at this he s not broken out. and just ahead number 12- 10ths of a percent over scott walker and ten with basically top three bush walker and rubio. and carson. and what does he have to do and can he gets more space between him and other candidates. i don t think he will. he is sitting in pretty good position. if he has money and resources and the organization out there, sitting in the top tier with that kind of money advantage, and his record and his story, are going to be enough to keep him there. he will have to demonstrate in iowa and new hampshire he can win. and the thing is here every time i am involved in politics every moderate and mainstream republican establishment republicans, they start out and getting hammered and they start to drop and come back and don t. most come back and win the nomination. i upon not saying he will do that. but he s in perfect position to pull it off. brad finally, we ll hear about bc and ac. before and after columia. and remarkable story. and tell me about approximate that dynamic. meeting columbo in mexico when he was 17 and she was 16 and how she anchored him and what she does. and this person launched on the national stage. he has a lifelong romance with his first love and a terrific marriage. columbia is a mexican national and a wonderful person and growneded and family and religious base. and i think jeb is a tremendous father. he had a epiph a ny. and beyond any public servant s job to take care of those who are the least fortunate and proved that asor. and i think he will do that as president. he is giving back to his community and didn t start as governor but started in mexico and started as youth and carried him in his life. that is something the american people will know and appropriate. we ll hear about it in a cub an american neighborhood in miami college. thank you. we want to know more from you, with jeb bush expected to announce he s running for president would you vote for the former florida governor or somebody else. weigh in on our live chat. a manhunt for two killers now in the 10th day. joyce mitchell the prison employee accused of helping them escape appears in court wearing a bulletproof vest. prosecutors said she agreed to be their get away driver and got cold feet in the last few minutes. molly. the 51-year-old prison employee was back in court today and this time wearing a jail issued black and white stripes. it was a very brief appearance. and we would love to hear the details. but she waived her hearing and so it will trandz fer from the city court to the county court. and her attorney stephen johnson argued against the camera being in the courtroom. and the judge allowed the voochlt and joyce mitchell facing charges that she supplied the killers with hack saw blades and krizle and aiding their escape. and promoting prison contraband. and after the appearance clinton county da city hasn t ruled out further charges. news reports cited investigative sources said that mitchell said the convicts planned to kill her husband before running away from her. on the record relative to the issues that you are putting forth to me on the truth of statements that she may have made to law enforcement agents or someone else may have made about a agreement between joyce mitchell and both matt and sweat as to whether they would take physical action to harm to harm lyle mitchell i will not comment on that. and you can see neither confirming or denying the report. there is possible other people could be arrested and charged in this case. molly, thank you. and a win on the war on terror. a senior official tells fox news that a air strike in libya hit its target. the top al-qaeda leader was pehind a horrible a took a gas refinery in algeria that killed dozens and three americans. jennifer griffith has the details. reporter: hi, eric. u.s. intelligence doesn t have dna proof that they killed him in the air strike. reports of his death proved false in the past. it was to f- 15 fighter jets that dropped 500 bombs on the target in eastern libia. and the real target was a one- eyed algerian who fought in afghanistan in the 1990s and served as a li ason. and he formed a break, way al-qaeda faction in 2013. the u.s. offered a $5 million reward for his role in the terror attack on the algerian gas facility in which 38 hostages were killed. the elaborate attack came four months after the attack in u.s. facilities in benghazi libia. militants who may have been involved in the benghazi attack. isis is making its presence in libya assassinating a group of christians. and four years after u.s. helped to out gaddafi libya is a failed state. delta operators got libby and he died in a new york hospital. abitala is waiting to be charged in the role in the benghazi attack. they have been operating in the east part of the country. the capitol of tripoli is controlled by an islamic faction. the middle east is not the only part of the area heating up. russia is responding to the report that the pentagon will send heavy weapons to eastern europe. moscow would be forced to boost his own forces to deployment by the united states. is this another sign that the cold war is coming back to life? we ll talk to the allied commander of nato when he joins us in ten minutes. down day on wall street. stocks seeing the losses of 100 points. this after the talks broke down over the weekend. and traders worry about the financially troubled country defaulting on its death. if that happens leaving behind the euro currency. that has a lot of traders worried about what that could mean and a bit of a drag and three hours before the close. and one republican leader describing it as a civil war in the democratic party. nancy pelosi and what the white house is doing to salvaging the bill. and as if that was not enough. what thieves did after they robbed a cell phone store in detroit. and rescuing french pilots from a deadly crash earlier this year. we had a couple of people and in position that were savable. i tried to get the first one out and pulled him in the grouped and rolled him and went back in for the second person. try alka-seltzer heartburn reliefchews. they work fast and don t 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phones. and once they got out. believe it or not they douced the store in gas line and set it on fire. the store owner hoping if someone will recognize this man. they hope to get the suspects nabbed. and right now, the white house is looking at the trade deal that even nancy pelosi bailed on. and despite the president personal lobbying on capitol hill. and now it is a initiative the presidential campaign. rich has more details. good afternoon, eric. president obama and the white house said there is confident there is bipartisan support and further negotiate the agreement through congress. it is a 12 nation pacific trade agreement and congress would give him greater authority to negotiate. it failed thanks to the congressional democrats and denied the president the ability to negotiate. they will try it again. and essentially the white house and congressional republicans find themselves in the unique position of advocating the same position. we need to write the rules of the global economy. the world is watching us. they are making him a lame duck president. his own party. he has work to do with his party and i hope we can fix this. and the white house secretary josh earnest saying in the briefing that he wouldn t be surprised if president obama and john boehner spoke about this on the phone today. this is one of the issues that the white house is trying to push especially on the international front and first off negotiations with iran. there is a bill in congress that would sign off on what the president is trying to do. and also the president s initiative to open up cuba with diplomatic relations. he met opposition with a number of republicans and also democrats. we ll see if there is a revote. the pentagon reportedly planning a big move in ukraine. a former supreme allied commander. and wild animalsroamming the streets in a former soviet republic. the latest on the efforts to find the people and animals as well. severe weather in texas. they are bracing for 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intentions. if it goes through it would be the first serious deployment since the end of the cold war. the pentagon said over the last few years, the united states military increased positioning of equipment and with nato allies and partners and the u.s. military continues to review the best location to store these materials in consultation with our allies. we have made no decision on if or when to move this equipment. and the former supreme allied commander of nato and new a don t. and so here in the pentagon with that statement, it is business as usual. you were quited over the weekend saying it is a meaningful shift in policy. which is it? it is a meaningful shift in policy. in the cold war we had prepositioned warstocks all around the sophyet union. we walked away from that. but this is the first time that we are dramatically positioning war stocks close to the border was russia because we are concerned about russian behavior. what are we really prepared to do? we are members of nato which means we have sworn to a treaty that requires us to treat an attack on any nato nation as an attack on all of the nation. the united states would respond in a military fashion with our other 27 nato allies if any of the nato countries were invaded. we are sworn to do that by a treaty. speaking with a former cian operative. it is a big story. moving equipment is one thing and moving men is another thing and it was his opinion that we needed to do that if vladimar putin was going to pay attention. do you agree or disagree with that? i agree with that. this is a reasonable first step but if we don t see russian behavior change in ukraine where they invaded a european country and annexed crimea. and if we don t see that behavior change the next logical step would be moving troops. we are not there yet but we can see it coming. how close are we. over the next six months to see if the russians will live up to the mensk agreement agreed by them and germanys and other states to withdraw their troops from ukraine. we have a matter of months for them to do that before the next logical step would be deploying the troops. nonce we deploy troops. how close are we to actual engagement and war. is that where we are heading? i think we need to keep a measured tone about this. let s recall in a cold war we had 3 million troops, both nato and united states and russian warsaw pact ussr and facing each other in central europe. we are talking about hundreds of troops and perhaps a thousand. we are a long way from the high- end cold war posture. it is unquieting step. it is bad behavior by vladimar putin. that reminds us how many forces were there. and one official was quited today saying if this indeed does happen, russia will be forced to boost the western forces on the flafrng. you can see the ratcheting up of rhetoric. and looking at the cold war, in this country, what can we learn from that time period to apply now and make sure we don t go back wards and that we maintain our authority and our pour in this part of the world. i think number one strengthen the nato alliance. it is the cornerstone. nato was with us in afghanistan and iraq and libya and the balk ans. and the nato alliance. and keeping pressure on russia through sanctions and my view arm the ukrainian military so they can push back on the russians and jenna, it is important to maintain dialogue. we don t want to get in the cold war posture where there was no meaningful dialogue. we have to keep the ability to talk open. what is your biggest concern? my biggest concern is that the russians don t step back from what is happening in ukraine, and we are forced to continue to ratchet it up and move to a new cold war. it doesn t have been to be that way but it is a concern. we have a big story, not forgetting this part of the world. we look forward to talking to you. thank you so much. thank you, jenna. the irs recovering thousands of e-mails belonging to lois lerner. and terror out of the movie jaws in a north carolina beach town. two young people injured in shark attacks. coming up we ll request the shark experts what you should do when you go out in the beach. the head was big and estimated 6- 8. 7- 8. in the water and coming over with the white wash. and the kid was in shock. i like my seafood like i like my vacations: tropical. and during red lobster s island escape, three new dishes take me straight to the islands. like the ultimate island seafood feast, with crab, lobster and jumbo shrimp. all you have to do. get here while you still can. [music] jackie s heart attack didn t come with a warning. today her doctor has her on a bayer aspirin regimen to help reduce the risk of another one. if you ve had a heart attack be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. a couple of young people critically injured if shark attacks in north carolina. they were swim nothing waist dope water and they suffered life threatening injuries in separate attacks about a mile from each other. and an hour apart. a 12-year-old lost part of her arm and leg. and the boylost his arm. and james is a biologist and researchers who tracks great white sharks. a lot goes through our minds and we get a headline of a shark attack and there is a lot of questions and not a lot of injure on on answers. north carolina beaches are home to a number of different shark species during the summer. they move in the coast on north carolina on migrations north from southerly areas like florida when the water warms up. they were 20 years from the beach and nothing seemed out of the ordinary. and we only have a little bit of a description of the shark being around seven feet long in one case. we don t know if it is two sharks or one shark in this attack. with that limited information. is there any way to know what we are looking for in the water? unfortunately there is not enough information to make a description that would allow us to identify the specific shark. we have ten species that are in the area and there are probably about five that can grow to that size and damage. and i know that it is a warm period here in north carolina. and there s plenty of people and sharks in the water moving north. at this point there is not enough information. and we are looking at the story. and you hear this. what do you think. why would a shark attack. this is a tragic event. and we really don t know why the sharks attack. this is a mistaken iowa identity event when a shark is actively feeding and grabbed a hold of a swimmer. it had to be a large animal and probably several would be capable offing to this sort of damage and unfortunately the individuals have received a good amount of damage to cause theamitation of the arm. you think about the tone agers in the beach and hate to hear the stories. beaches are open today. and it was not closed down. and how is that to keep the beach open? it is tragic event but it is hard to look at this as creating a greater risk for individuals. it was warm and the period of time when a lot of folks are in the water and that is a key factor that we appreciate with shark attacks. more people in the water and more sharks moving in and opportunity for people to get injured. and that being said shark attacks are rare. and as a result they are probably not necessarily closing the beach at this point. but people need to exercise caution and keep track of their surroundings. and don t swim alone. and just so our vowers know. sfo unprovoked shark attacks last year and 52 of those in the united states. and that gives an idea who you rare it is to have two in one day let alone two in one week. it is a story to keep watching. and our thoughts are with the teens. and new details in the irs targeting scandal. the agencies with holding 6000 new e-mails belonging to lois lerner. and as the lawsuits played out. the court is setting a deadline for the irs to turn them over. jerry they got them but not coughing them up? that s right, eric. it was not my dog ate the home work. the irs will not hand over the e-mails until it can make sure there are no repeats or copies. and judicial watch is seeking the e-mails. and the tax agencies mired in the scandal and to conserviceative groups. and congress is the irs said they were permanently lost. captain computer drive that contained them crashed. and the general for tax issues was able to retreat 6400 e-mails that was sent to the agency. and it is these e-mails that they check for duplicates. and they called the irs to address the status of the e-mails by john 12th. and checking for copies among the 6400 e-mails will delay the analysis past september. it was mired in candal. last week alone. irs announced plans for future cyber attacks after the thieves stole the personal into of taxpayers earlier this year. nmaybe eventually thanks to the court decisions we ll so what was written in the e-mails. and a huge fire ball approximate lighting up the skies in texas. we ll talk to you about what triggered that explosion. and what scientist can learn that said hello to earth. hello, is anybody in there? 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ask your doctor about farxiga. and visit our website to learn how you may be able to get every month free. listen up team i brought in some protein to help rearrange the fridge and get us energized! i m new ensure active high protein. i help you recharge with nutritious energy and strength to keep you active. come on pear it s only a half gallon. i ll take that. yeeeeeah! new ensure active high protein. 16 grams of protein and 23 vitamins and minerals. all in 160 calories. ensure. take life in. coming up on the real story. new details with a woman who was charged with helping murderers break out of prison. and jeb bush. presidential run announcement. and the major movement in the front runner s race. and how will it go from this to this? yeah that little pumpkin, me. and i will take you on a tour of the childhood scrapbook in the top of the hour. nnational gas pipeline. and sparking an explosion and massive four south from san antonio. flames were visible 25 miles away. people living near by were told to evacuate until safety inspections were for. and a basilica in france was engulfed in flames. everyone escape were able to escape. you can so the flames went to the roof and left a shell. it was started by workers on the roof. also in france today. the defense minister honoring five brave american pilots after an aircraft crashed in a nato base in spain. the 34-year-old air force sergeant received the lonelyingion award. he described his role in the rescue. i went around the plane and looked and it was a fire ball. it was a huge fire wall and i tried to stop and keep a colmind and think. and stay rational and remember that is where the italians and french were. that january french crash killed nine french air men and two greek pilots. and now saying hello and saying hello to us. seven months after landing on a speeding comet and speeding south. here is the delay. nhi, eric. seven long and cold dark months later. he is a are alive. they thought it was possible but far from guaranteed and this weekend surprised 85 second communication from ph lea that elated scientist and emergencies around the world. hello earth. can you hear me followed by the tweet back from rosetta, how are you feeling today. life on 67 p the comet is good. feeling energy otherwised with three hours of dayalate. it sent more packets. phila e was the first aircraft to land on a comet. the harpoons failed to anchor and ended up in the shadow of a cliff wall. and that limited how much power. and so the batteries only lasted 60 hours. but in november. phila e took incredible photos and obtained samples of ice. and now that the comets orbit is close tore the son it is receiving more sunlight. it appears it is operational and healthy and we will look and work on the coming slots and communication slots. as a scientist actually believe that phila e has been a wake as it has eight this happened packets of data. and scientist in europe will analyze that to so what phila e has provided. and that would be the building blocks of the union verse. it could help us preponderate understand the origin and evolution of our solar system. we take it for granted but it is amazing. have you ever heard of the kyaktist? they are launching a major protest in seattle and we have the story next. and before the constitution. there was another document. celebrating of the magna carta. when eating healthy and drinking water just isn t enough to ease my constipation i trust dulcolax tablets. i take dulcolax for dependable overnight relief and in the morning i am back to myself dulcolax, designed for dependable relief you wouldn t order szechuan without checking the spice level. it really opens the passages. waiter. water. so why would you invest without checking brokercheck? check your broker with brokercheck. a greenpeace protester is atempting to block the departure of shell s polar pioneer oil rig in seattle. you can see why the protesters are called kayaktivists. there s more than a dozen that set out in their kayak in elliott bay early this morning including a seattle city councilman. the demonstrators hope to physically block that rig from head together arctic for drilling. there have been arrest as both the seattle police and coast guard continue to monitor that situation. well today marks the key anniversary in world history. 800 years ago the magna carter was signed by the king of england laying the groundwork for constitutional democracies and our own declaration of independence and constitution. members of the royal family marking the occasion with a special ceremony just outside london. more live from london. hi greg reporter: uk prime minister david cameron said it and summed it up. the magna carter basically altered the balance of power between the governed and the governments forever. it happened here just behind me 800 years ago. actually what happened is the king of england that time gave his royal seal of approval to the magna carter. he was dealing with squabbling elites but buried in all that fine script the principles that a king or a government or a court could not impose its will unjustry on the citizens. attending the ceremonies today the current and future royal leader of the uk the queen, prince william and hundreds of americans including a lot of lawyers and u.s. attorney general loretta lynch. in fact the most prominent monument here is built by the american bar association. that s because our own founding documents like the constitution owe a lot to the magna carter. the revolutionary battle cry, no textation without representation basically lifted from its pages. here s what a few other americans have to say to us. it is very much alive and vibrant as a foundation for rights that people are entitled to, not only in america but throughout the world. this is a huge huge deal and, i mean just really makes you cry when you understand what happens here. reporter: it is not just history. magna carta is really a modern document used in a wide lank of legal document. supreme court court justice john roberts cited the magna carta in a case that that court was reviewing and also argued that countries and leaders that disregard the principals of the magna carta are part of our current problems from isis to mass flow of illegal immigrants. for those reasons a lot of people we talked to said again, this is not an episode from the past history. this is something we ve got to remember and got to keep pushing the idea of freedom under law. back to you. good reminder for all of us. greg thank you. so what do medical marijuana, the new terminator action flack and a monster truck rally really have in common? i m not sure i want to know. they are all part of happening now s final 30 next. well time for the final 30. colorado s supreme court ruling a medical marijuana patient fired from his job after failing a drug test cannot get his job back. colorado became the first state to legalize recreational pot three years ago, but apparently the employer can still make the call there. how about that. arnold schwarzenegger giving some of our military members an advanced screening of his upcoming action flick terminator genesis. arnold visiting hundreds of marines at camp pendleton in san diego. good for him. and this driver attempting to make the first front flop ever in a monster truck. he came close. oh, man. but the front tires didn t come to a complete stop when he landed as the rules require. i don t know i guess you should get some points for that. ouch. so you walk away nothing. flip around. eric great to have. you good to be here, jen mah. thanks for joining us. and the real story starts right now. thanks guys. jeb exclamation point getting in the race and shocking new details about the woman accused of helping the new york prisoners escape and some flattering and unflattering photos of me growing up. i m gretchen carlson. the real story starts right now. fox news alert for your monday. woman accused of helping two dangerous inmates break out of a prison in upstate new york went before the judge as officials say the convicted murderers could be anywhere by now. 51-year-old