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The Beat With Ari Melber

question of how that's defined. in the civil war, there was no question about who put on confederate uniforms and fought. today, trump has not put on such a rebel uniform, he has not been indicted in the insurrection law, although he faces trial for other offenses, but a fair system will have to decide that kind of question for each person, some trump lawyers, for example, have been convicted of other election crimes but not insurrection. let alone sedition. right? other trump aides await trial. but legal experts, you should understand this, think it is unlikely the court will sign off on an essentially new system where each state separately decides who engaged in insurrection. that would be a system where giuliani could be off the ballot in colorado and still on it in texas. i pick him as another person who this could come up about. there's also an issue whether the hearings lack due process, rules oefdz, and witnesses. colorado courts have reached the

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The Beat With Ari Melber

the rioters shouting threats. >> where real american citizens. we're sick of it. and we're making it known that we're sick of it. >> they can only kill so many of us. >> there's gonna be a bigger civil war and a lot of bloodshed. >> i drove 14 hours to get here and stood in the cold for three and a half hours to find out that mike pence is a bleep trader, man, and i voted for that bleep dude. >> he could've done the right thing and certified those legislators, electors, and we wouldn't be standing here with a nine millimeter pointed at me right now! >> we've got to hang a bunch of crooked congressman, we'll do that. >> that's, of course, those individuals yelling, this footage came out, as mentioned, in the case. this is the lengths the rioters would go. you remember all of the imagery, you remember the news, you remember the galas, you remember, of course, the terrible attacks, the marching

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Alex Witt Reports

shows the point of view of rioters while they're shouting at republican texas congressman, detroit nils. this, while officer stand at the ready. you see them. their firearms are drawn right there. >> we are real american citizens and we're sick of it and we're making it known that we're sick of it. >> i'm ashamed of my congress people, they don't even stand up for it. >> if this doesn't happen, there's going to be a bigger civil war as a lot of bloodshed. >> i drove 14 hours to get here and stood in the cold for three and a half hours find out that might paid pence is a [bleep] traitor, man. and i voted for that [bleep] dude. >> i will talk with new jersey congressman andy kim about all of this. he's going to join me in just a few minutes. but let's get a little more right now on the supreme court agreeing to hear the trump colorado ballot case. joining me now is nbc's ryan riley. ryan, welcome to you, my friend. let's break down the nuts and bolts of what the court will be considering in this case, and what their possible rulings

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Anderson Cooper 360-20131221-01:09:00

they are saying they believe what they believe, an authentic feeling they hold. you suggested this is part of a bigger civil war. >> i agree to a certain extend. this is very authentic. this is very true and core to their believes, but a very, very narrow sequestered fundamental belief system, right? and so when you are part of the popular culture, you have to now negotiate that. so that's what we're seeing happening, and i feel like this great divide is finding itself in a lot of popular culture conversations, and this is just another one of them, and i find very little upliftment in saying that someone's lifestyle would morph into bestiality or that they insight evil. these are very, very hurtful words. they are not just doctrine and there is a lot of things in the bible, right? snakes talk in the bible. people live in whales in the

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