it s. this is deja vu newsline from berlin the waiting game the e.u. delays its decision on a briggs it extension chief brags that negotiator michaud dani and you and batters agree that an extension is needed but not on how long it should be. meanwhile tempers flare between supporters and opponents of gregg s that as the process drags on some lawmakers have received death threats. also coming up confusion at nato the military alliance struggles to find a common voice as the u.s. says it may send its troops back into northern syria after pulling them out earlier this time. i m serious so misconducts good to have you with us the u.k. s exit date from the european union has been delayed yet again but it s unclear for how long britain was set to leave the e.u. in just under a week s time but a recent vote in the u.k. parliament against an ambitious braggs a deal schedule made that deadline impossible to reach even basters have confirmed that there will indeed be an extension but said a decision on a new exit date won t be reached on till next week some are advocating a shorter extension to encourage the u.k. parliament to continue working on passing the withdrawal agreement an extension until the end of january 2020 is also being considered. correspondent is following the latest and she joins us now from london hi barrick if with no clear extension date at this point what is westminster s plan for pushing this through. well prime minister boris johnson has been compared by his critics to a toddler with a giant hissy fit because he actually is saying he wants to strong arm the opposition into gaining him an election this is his plan old away 3 and now that actually actually exit from the e.u. is sort of up in the air as to when this is going to happen he says the stalemate can only be broken when there is a new general election and he wants to get the opposition to play a role and to help him with that because he does need opposition m.p. s to actually agree to a general election so where does that leave greg sits we really don t know at the end of this week there s been so much back and forth and now it s up to the e.u. to agree on an extension we know that there are a lot of m.p. s in parliament who would like to see a longer extension prime minister johnson was to get everything done as quickly as possible and this is why is trying to basically push the boundaries here in the u.k. and get his general election on the way which he wants to have done in december already . i want to talk to you about another aspect of brags that namely how divisive it has been in the u.k. and a recent study has shown that people on both sides of the brights of debate think that the risk of violence against members of parliament has quote a price worth paying to get their desired brags that outcome now you ve been speaking to some m.p. s about this let s take a look. at your pocket very very clear 533 over here there is a crowd outside the palace of westminster every day made up of both angry neighbors and remain ors the police often have to intervene m.p. s arriving for work face verbal abuse and sometimes even physical attack. nigel for raj leader of the bracks a party had a milkshake thrown at him earlier this year a relatively harmless incident compared to what other politicians have experienced . i have threats of violence including a death threat but a civil death threats civil prosecutions by the police so i sat in a meeting recently with some other breaks here senior colleagues and some he said look around so does anyone not have a death threat and the answer was we ve all had death threats. including tom brake . the liberal democrat is a staunch opponent of breck said. one facebook page contain comments suggesting he should be strangled. varies from low level abuse to death threats i suspect probably every other member of parliament in the house of commons has had death threats and there s no doubt that these things have got worse since the referendum in media the after the referendum there was a very clear increase. 3 years ago labor m.p. jo cox was murdered on the way to a drop in in her constituency. her attacker has links to a neo nazi group. members of the opposition also blame the prime minister for fueling current divisions they say his talk of capitulation and surrender is fueling hatred. but prime minister boris johnson merely dismisses threats of violence against m.p. s as humbug it s a disgrace to the right i. have to say to just be dr never know judge somebody nobody. britain is defined between remainders and labour s grows ever starker many m.p. s receive threats every day usually via facebook or twitter their references to hanging and firing squads civil war and gunning for blood there s no way of knowing if some of these users might perpetrate violence in the real world. liberal democrat tom break believes that the political culture needs to change the way back is for. i think in the u.k. to resolve the issue bret s that i think until this is dealt with one way or another then we will continue to see this level of aggression the sort of language news for now the brits it crisis remains ongoing and that makes all m.p. s potential targets wherever they stand on the political spectrum. because that is an incredibly troubling trend how much of a toll are these threats taking on lawmakers. i think 1st n.p.c.s. big to put a brave face on the they also know that they need to get on with their work but it does take emotionally a toll on them one m.p. told me how she got send pictures of rape scenes of decomp has said to bodies and that even had children were approached in her house in her garden and that she was advised by the police to to fence the garden off so she told me that when she is in parliament she felt secure because there s a lot of security there but once she goes out that s it s very hard and she doesn t feel that there is really enough protection but also we know that m.p. s don t really see another way out i mean they call and walk around with bodyguards and they have to have these open surgery so it s really. a situation that they feel many of them feel they just have to kind of tolerate and they have to endure or i did have his favorite mass reporting for us from london thank you better now at some other stories making news around the world british police have arrested a 3rd person on suspicion of manslaughter and human trafficking after $39.00 bodies were found in the back of a truck in southeastern england officers believe most of the victims were chinese but human rights activists say some might be vietnamese the driver is in custody on suspicion of murder of. a soldier has fatally shot 8 fellow servicemen at a russian military base in the town of courtney in south eastern siberia the defense minister said the soldier was in custody and had suffered a nervous breakdown. the head of the world jewish congress ronald lauder has visited the german city of. weeks after a gunman killed 2 people while trying to break into a synagogue there larders visit comes amid numerous signs of a rise in anti-semitism in germany on monday he will present chancellor angela merkel an award for her commitment to fighting it the u.s. city of baltimore dignitaries attended the funeral of congressman and civil rights leader a larger coming among them was former president barack obama who praised cummings fight for rights and opportunities for forgotten people across america comics was the head of the powerful house oversight committee investigating president donald trump he died earlier this month at the age of 68. nato has ended a 2 day summit in brussels acknowledging differences over its own member turkey s off fences in northern syria the us pulled its troops from the region earlier this month but washington is now saying it may send them back to prevent the so-called islamic state from capturing crucial oil fields. it isn t easy keeping up with america s position in syria after president trump emphatically said u.s. troops are coming home his statement seemed in downstairs reports came in that the white house had set out options for leaving u.s. forces in northeast syria the new order seemed to be modifying the objective of keeping isis extremists at bay to include the safeguarding of the oil fields the region is in a state of flux after trump declared he was withdrawing u.s. troops creating a vacuum on tuesday russia and turkey struck a deal on a 30 kilometer deep safe zone to enable the withdrawal of armed kurdish units from the area the oil fields which are of interest to the u.s. and in the east of the region at a nato press conference in brussels u.s. defense secretary mark esper tried to give some clarity to the u.s. position where both objectives and the reversal of trump s earlier order of troop withdrawal were set out. and his team so we are reinforcing that position it will include some mechanize forces again i m not going to get into details but the mission in syria remains what their mission in syria began with it s always been about defeating the isis call ition. while russian forces step up their presence with turkey esper drew attention to news that turkey had said it had recaptured some of the $100.00 isis militants believed to have a scaped from prison in syria as a result of the turkish incursion. now could married men be allowed to become catholic priests that is one of the controversial topics being debated at a 3 week summit at the vatican the meeting of bishops is focused on the amazon region home to several isolated catholic communities the proposed change to the celibacy rule for priests would allow older married men in such communities to be ordained the idea has outraged conservatives but in a part of the world where the church faces a chronic shortage of priests many say it is the only solution. nelson cardoso is a devout catholic but at the moment he s not altogether happy with his church he s critical of the celibacy requirement. every man needs a partner pastors in the protestant church have them. so catholic priests should be allowed to have them to look at the men were just didn t . know since church has largely been abandoned the paint has faded and moisture has penetrated the walls children play in the place of worship deep in the amazon rain forest the priest in charge can only make rare visits getting there is always difficult for edilberto the 77 year old may not look like a catholic official but he s one of the most senior priests in this region and he s sworn to celibacy he tells us he has lived this way his whole life. the trip to remote congregations takes him at least 6 hours. in the eyes and a hammock while on route father and alberto is also critical of celibacy. but the pope francis has recognized that our congregations need the help of married priests why should any chased priests be allowed this is a major issue in the church right now and i see it as a blessing. in the amazon it s clear what father deal barito is talking about the congregations are far apart travelling by boat takes a long time and his church struggles to find young people willing to be celibate. in the village of self russets go and father at oberto celebrates mass with $200.00 catholic youths. only edilberto can consecrate bread and accordance with church rooms. the region s catholic youth meet and sell francisco and they seem fun interested in taking about chastity edilberto discusses the pope s amazon synod and possible plans to ease the celibacy requirement. for voice support finally getting rid of celibacy if a priest wants to be chaste fine but it should be voluntary not obligatory. knew it must be don t give it that this idea was discussed at the amazon senate at the vatican and even encouraged by pope francis the catholic church is looking for ways to cope with a lack of priests and stop members from leaving. most members of milton s congregation support the end of celibacy in the priesthood so mass can take place every sunday and not just once every 3 months nelson would even consider leaving the church services himself but he wants to remain married there. it has to be possible. we see how protestant ministers have wives and children from the if we want this to a marriage they re there for married the. the reform of the catholic church might just have its origins in the amazon. now tourists are flocking to australia s iconic sandstone rock allure for one last climb before a permanent ban comes into effect starting on saturday the monolith will no longer be open to climbers the decision was made out of respect to indigenous australians who consider the site sacred according to the park s most recent data 300000 people visited the louvre and 2015 with a 130 people climbing it every day was added to the list of unesco world heritage sites in 1987. coming up
is less tonight on the breaking email. the next sentence down below, news front because he s not that quote for me, which is here. thanks for inviting us in your home tonight. for that s it for accurate, i would say this in this special report. the future if you had me in your fair, balanced, unafraid. column called munch with the the story hosted by ft, an imaginary hypothetical martha maccallum joins us now. martha: i will never forget idea that i got information on working with shep all these years and the body of work and hunter biden from the chinese. the coverage he did is something completely false. we are all really proud of. martha: needs to release i will never forget when i did the complete context. royal wedding coverage that i recalling him to him to do that. think he did somewhat begrudgingly but halfway through the coverage i think we had him. has the president asked you to look the bidens? he was like, wow, this is very moving! i m glad i m here. tough day for all of us, bret. the president asked me about good to see you tonight as overall trade on china. always. i am very interested in hunter all right, but the story goes on biden though because i had not as we always say. good evening, everybody. i m martha maccallum and this realized how well he s been involved with chinese who are is the story tonight. a story that is somewhat tough now in jail, not my own work. to follow and it s getting more complex by the day. this is the brilliant work of today, peter schweizer. has the op ad with all the the wall street journal s kim strassel believes that by design. details. martha: we ve spoken with we ll get to that part in just a him on that. moment. today, ambassador yovanovitch but i m not peter schweizer. testified why she was pushed martha: good to see you. coming up next, elizabeth out. her testimony behind closed door, and that follows a pattern warren s plan to tweak capitalism. that we have seen both sides make it just a little bit better then come out and try to spin around the edges and what kind of effect it might have on what happened in there and what they heard but we are going to show you what the democrats said american businesses according to and we ll talk to a republican about what he heard in there as well. by the way, there will be many you don t think capitalists more of these closed doors are bad people? i m a capitalist. testimony that will happen over the coming days featuring some come on. of the individuals that you see there on the screen as we move steak & lobster starting at only $15.99. forward. kim strassel today in the washington journal wrote that hurry in before these three are gone again. there is an effort, she believes, seeking to leave outback steakhouse. readers have no time to keep track of all the lives, envoys, and meetings in spain, and that s the point, she writes. the goal is to cover the trump administration in an ugly says kim strassel. but here are some parts of one exchange that we have on all of this regarding the former ambassador and it comes straight from the tra call with his ukrainian counterpart which we ve all read many times now. president trump says this about the ambassador. the woman was bad news and the people she was dealing with in ukraine where bad news, so i just want to let you know that, he says to president zelensky. zelensky when he gets to the part of talking to the ambassador, i agree with you wanted to present. her attitude towards me was far from the best. she admired the previous president and she was on his side. to which the president said, welcome she s going to go through some things which you might agree today as she starts that process. let s bring in ed henry covering the story throughout the day. breaking tonight as well, the democrat adam schiff fired off a letter a short time ago declaring his committee the next few weeks is going to continue the impeachment probe with a sense of urgency. in his words they will accelerate the probe, a sign democrats appear to be moving forward to meeting the rumored target of trying to impeach president trump by thanksgiving. the president spoiling for the fight, blasting schiff and nancy pelosi as dishonest do-nothing democrats, his words at a large campaign rally in minnesota last night. the president in his own words warning his supporters around the country that his opponents want to erase your vote like it never existed. the latest clash came while that rally was taking place, they were told the white house was going to block the former u.s. ambassador to ukraine, marie yovanovitch from talking voluntarily. today democrat subpoenaed her to testify behind closed doors. she testified, the presidents personal attorney rudy giuliani was badmouthing her. yovanovitch fired back in testimony obtained by fox that she told staff to ignore the president s orders, that s not true. she said i m proud of my work, the u.s. embassy represented and advanced policies of the u.s. government as articulate first by the obama administration and then the trump administration. democrats trying to tie the president s decision to push her out of the post to their claims that the president should be impeached over efforts to get the ukrainians to strongly scrutinize former vice president joe biden. the president said he just wanted to look into corruption and a short time ago at a trade meeting with chinese officials, he was blunt again about saying [ [ tires screech ]playing ] he s not telling the chinese to mom, you ve got to get yourself a new car. investigate the biden family but he s not opposed to them the car s fine. [ car horn honks ] investigating it either. i wish i could save faster. watch. you re making good choices. you ll get there. i have not brought up joe biden. china can do whatever they want got it? yeah. with respect to the bidens. china can do whatever they want with respect to $1.5 billion going to somebody. that s up to china. but we do have to look into thank you. bye. corruption but no matter, it has not been brought up. in a letter released by adam were you going to tell me about this? schiff, he fired back with democrats will continue in us i know i can t afford to go. to limit our efforts witnesses you can t even afford to get yourself a new car. i still have this car so you can afford to go. to come in, move forward to impeachment. that may play into the president s hands that they will stop at nothing to try and get [ music resumes ] him. i m so proud of you. martha: thank you very thank you, mom. much. principal. we can help you plan for that. my next guest is a republican on the house foreign affairs start today at principal.com. committee who was in today s closed-door hearings. pennsylvania congressman scott perry joins me now. good to see you this evening. what did you hear in there and what s your take away? my take away is this. unfortunately in the ever-changing rule situation here, i can t tell you what happened in that room. as a matter of fact just to let you and your viewers know, it s still ongoing. martha: we ve seen elizabeth warren moving up in but i can tell you this, we have the polls per the wall street journal today a president who is interested in noting that all of her talk of remaking capitalism as we know rooting out corruption in the it does not sit so well with united states of america and the people who run and work in one that was elected in ukraine businesses across the country. they report her battle with by 70% was also interested in it. at about the same time that the so comprehensive an indictment of new president of ukraine was elected, the ambassador, the mrs. warren. that in turn has led to some current serving ambassador was released and there s a reason nervousness among executives. for that because rooting out corruption is important and if here now, fox news contributor. it s not getting done and you don t have the confidence of the country that you are serving in, liz, what do you make of that? then a change has to be made. they are completely right. what elizabeth warren intends to i think that s the important do is put democrats in power part of this. she claims the statement that was released that she never put guiding american corporations to invest in corporate, what they together a do not prosecute list should do with their stock once of people and that she does not know what is being spoken of they receive it. her. she says she s been falsely also wants to control, have the maligned and that she has never had anything but the best federal government control interest of the country at corporate political donations, that people should donate on heart. here is danny haack, one of your that, et cetera. it s an incredible change and colleagues on the hill, here s it s sort of mystifying because right now wages are going up, what he said when he came out. american businesses are doing i want your thoughts. i sat through eight hours well, and she is basically anti-profit. that went like a new york talks about herself as a capitalist. second. it was that amazing, that i have no idea what she means. that means that she really powerful, that impactful. i just feel very fortunate to doesn t like the bedrock of have been there. capitalism which is profit. martha: what s your reaction? well, i sat in the same martha: let s hear from a hearing and to be quite honest a quick sound bite from elizabeth warren here. we want to rein in the text lot of it was secondhand information, no really direct giants. we want to rein in the knowledge. and while we certainly find her billionaires. situation lamentable for her we want to rein in the companies who believe they get to roll personally, there are bigger over everyone. issues for the country, for both countries at stake, and we have those are areas in both to get through all the facts of them. coasts that usually are the the fact this is happening in secret quite honestly the biggest supporters of leading fact this is happening in the democratic candidates, so she s kind of biting the hand that secure area where no one can see feet hurt eventually. and they should actually be a she totally is and it sort of hearing in the foreign affairs committee because we are talking interesting because those are about a diplomat from the united states lends the other issue to the this is the america leads in big tech. american people should see what s happening here. there s nothing i would like yes, they made missteps. more than for you and the rest to break them up for what? of america to see the you have to ask consumers is transcripts from today s proceedings and the transcripts there a monopoly power created from last week s proceedings but in big tech that has that s not being allowed except disadvantaged consumers? google is free. does anyone mind that google owns so much of the search in certain circumstances where portions are leaked out very market? no. people don t mind that. regulation, yes, coming for big strategically. but they are not being leaked tech but it s all about control, out by the minority party, they are being leaked out elsewhere. martha. she really wants the government that s obviously a problem in control of not only big tech inherent in the way this whole thing is playing out. but american corporate life and i think it s a disaster for the it feels very carefully economy if she gets elected. orchestrated that these hearings go on and on and on for hours that s why business executives are not going to be giving money and people come out and tell their side of the story. to her. we are going to hear more of martha: thank you very much. great to see you as always. that next week. but the president has said that yet another new bombshell in the there needs to be transparency in this and obviously he feels like that would benefit him, but harvey weinstein scandal and a potential cover-up at nbc news. one of the reporters at the i can t believe it wouldn t benefit both sides to a great forefront, breaking news tonight coming up. extent. how much of a push is there to how do you make red lobster s do this differently and will there come a time where these people will be testifying in public because this is the disposition phase of this process, no matter? we are pushing as hard as we endless shrimp even hotter? you bring back nashville hot! can but unfortunately we cannot oh yeah - it s back. affect the change but it has to come from the majority and the crispy shrimp. .tossed in a spicy rub. american people have to say, .and drizzled with sweet amber honey. listen, if it s that important more shrimp more ways. and it is, impeachment is no endless shrimp s just fifteen ninety nine. small matter, let s do this out hurry in. in the open and let s all decide for ourselves based on the testimony of individuals from both sides. let s let each side see the discovery, call their witnesses, ask the questions, do it out in the open where the american people can see so they can decide as opposed to just a few members of congress sitting in a secret room in washington, d.c. that s absurd. the one good to have you here tonight. also joining me this evening byron york, chief correspondent for the washington examiner . kim strassel is right. there s a lot of names. it s either the acertification process.t or it isn t. next week we are going to hear it s either testing an array of advanced safety systems. from the ambassador to the e.u., also here from a russia or it isn t. it s either the peace of mind of a standard unlimited mileage warranty. specialist is said someone who or it isn t. could be somewhat unpleasant for the white house when she tells for those who never settle, her story. what are you hearing about what s to come and what do you it s either mercedes-benz certified pre-owned. think about the suggestion that or it isn t. some of this is smoke and the mercedes-benz certified pre-owned sales event. now through october 31st. mirrors? what we saw is important only at your authorized mercedes-benz dealer. because the committee is going to hear from those people but we are not going to hear from those people. these are being conducted in secret and just add a little information for this, what i understand is because the democrats issued a quickie subpoena to marie yovanovitch this morning, that made this technically a disposition. there are tighter rules for secrecy. you saw what you saw with her presented to perry where he comes out and says i m sorry, i can t talk about it. meanwhile, marie yovanovitch writes a detailed statement (honk!) i hear you sister. denying all the allegations against her and accusing others that s why i m partnering with cigna of wrongdoing. to remind you to go in for your annual check-up, and that gets out and stands as and be open with your doctor about anything you feel a version of the story today. - physically and emotionally. but now cigna has a plan are republicans asking challenging questions? that can help everyone see stress differently. that you have trouble last just find a period of time to unwind. a location to de-stress. answering? an activity to enjoy. we don t know. or the name of someone to talk to. trash talking the president to create a plan that works for you, one side said, we don t know the visit cigna.com/mystressplan. sources on that. says she wasn t, so there s a cigna. together, all the way. lot of stuff we are trying to figure out as we get through all of this. one of the things i think is interesting is what i brought up in the introduction is the actual exchange of this ambassador we have from the transcript in the phone call between the president. says basically i m glad you gave me a heads up on your ambassador because i don t think she s on my side because i think she was loyal to the prior president. i think that s pretty relevant. it s going to be a big issue whether the president recalled the ambassador, didn t fire her, recalled her from a posting early. this is now become really tangled up with this rudy giuliani, lev parnas, and igor fruman issue. these are a couple of sketchy characters involved and we don t know what was going on, was anybody really listening to them? was money exchanged? there is real questions about them and what rudy giuliani might have known about it. martha: the suggestions they were funneling money and to try to get her removed. it goes into a lot of deep territory there. what about the suggestion which is lost in the shuffle in this story that the president of ukraine said that he didn t know the military aide had been held up when they had their conversation. in fact didn t hear about it for another month after. makes it a little difficult for the quid pro quo argument as she points out in her piece, if the martha: writer ronan farrow ronan farrow claims nbc tried to person who is being offered this kill the harvey weinstein story when he was breaking it. for that doesn t know what the now the peacock network under first part of the equation is, fire for its handling of matt that the military has been held lauer s multiple allegations against him. up. that s right. details in his new book that the that s what republicans have been saying the first moment network negotiated multiple hush it s been released, there was money settlements to protect not a quid pro quo. if there is not a quid pro quo, the today show cohost. what is there? martha: byron york, always good to have you here. releasing bombshell experts from good to see you. his new book. we ll be talking to you next speak what we show with week as the saga moves on and we documents is that there were come back, new information from multiple secret settlements and nondisclosures being struck with the trump advisor taps with investigating joe and hunter biden s business ties in china. women at nbc, multiple ones wherewith matt lauer. this was years before this what s up with your. partner? incident with brooke nevill and not again. limu that s your reflection. the firing. only pay for what you need. here with me now, senior liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty correspondent who first broke it s what gives audible themembers an edge.listening; lowers great to have you with us it opens our minds, changes our perspective, tonight. connects us, i guess first of all let s put and pushes us further. up the and the lack statement the most inspiring minds, because i want to get your the the most compelling stories: audible. first night we learned is the 9th of november 2017 and he was fired in 24 hours. performance comes in lots of flavors. (dramatic orchestra) any suggestion when you prior to that evening that we try to cover up any aspect of lauer s there s the amped-up, over-tuned, feeding-frenzy-of sheet-metal-kind. and then there s performance that just leaves you feeling better as a result. conduct because it feels like deja vu because when i broke this story that s the kind lincoln s about. with my colleague at variety back in 2017, this is what we were hearing and this is what we are asked. our original reporting which is the story with the first allegations from women against matt lauer, the story came when the day he was fired that we heard from your various women that were made at nbc and they fell on deaf years. that happened before the night he was fired. martha: they tried to pursue this in the company and they got nowhere? we were told they were had spoken from two years ago. martha: the interesting account is rich mccue who worked with ronan farrow when they were trying to produce these stories and harvey weinstein and the matt lauer story which followed. here s what rich mccue said in vanity fair. what i face from my bosses at nbc felt worse than being spied on by weinstein s paid thugs by the network protected itself and you have power over pain, matt lauer with precisely the so the whole world looks different. same legal tactics that weinstein had used for years to cover up his own sexual misconduct. the unbeatable strength of advil. that s a statement because we know that ronan farrow said he what pain? was followed by people that weinstein covered that he so, you bought those good enough paper towels? hired and almost moved out of his house, he was told by sources to buy a gun. [daughter laughs] to say that what he faced from not such a bargain. there s only one quicker picker upper. nbc was worse than that was quite a statement. bounty, the quicker picker upper. he did write a piece for vanity fair, went into great detail about what he and ronan alleged. nbc is saying that the story was not ready to be reported. they say that not only was it ready to be reported, but legal at nbc had cleared it. they said they were ready to have women go on the record, ready to do an interview with rose mcgowan. martha: their sight is pretty persuasive in terms of the side that they have and what they locked down. why would nbc care if the harvey weinstein story came to light? why would they be against that? what nbc is saying because i do have to present both sides, they were saying the story was not ready to be reported, that s why they did not want the weinstein story to go forward. what ronan farrow and his course the mogul of hollywood and did not want nbc toedly struck a deal of sorts with him not to report on him at all. noah oppenheimer who was the president of nbc also a screenwriter, ronan farrow this is what he claims alleging what nbc did not want to upset harvey weinstein. he goes further to say it s all full circle intertwined with matt lauer. he said this morning on good morning america, he says he carefully weighs us out in the book but all signs point to it was a tangled web that was all woven together that harvey weinstein basically threatened that he would spill the beans about matt lauer if they spilled the beans about his sexual harassment. martha: ugly all around. when we come back, jonathan morris and guy benson there was a lot of friction on a new push by some democratic between the united states and china. presidential candidates to and now it s a love fest. now it s a good thing. revoke churches tax-exempt status if they refused to it s good for china, it s good for us, it s good for the world. perform same-sex marriages. martha: pretty big day in the phase one of president trump s deal with china. looks like headway is being made. the markets clearly liked it against whooping cough. today. the dow up 300 points, a couple 1% apiece, all three were up for a week, china has been all over the stories we ve been covering this week as the nba battle against whooping cough. continues to raise questions, head in now for applebee s new pasta & grill combos deep questions about a relationship between the two starting at $9.99. countries. more of that coming up in our panel but also this moment from they give us excellent customer otservice, every time.e. president trump on joe biden. our 18 year old was in an accident. watch. usaa took care of her car rental, china should start an investigation into the biden and getting her car towed. all i had to take care of was making sure flavorless because what happened to china is about as bad as what that my daughter was ok. if i met another veteran, and they were with another insurance company, happened with ukraine! i would tell them, you need to join usaa martha: here now, outside advisor to president trump all because they have better rates, and better service. we re the gomez family. in china, michael thank you for we re the rivera family. we re the kirby family, and we are usaa members for life. get your auto insurance quote today. coming to us. let s start with the trade deal. how significant is it, as optimistic as everybody wants to be about this in the markets, clearly felt very good about it, we ve been down this road before, intellectual property, forced transfer of technology which is a huge part of this is in the next phase to come, righ right? what is your assessment? i thought it was a big success. it s going to have an effect around the world, that s breaking down the problem into phases. from what i understand president trump s own idea to your business can do a lot in 10 minutes. have phase one, phase two put as like make a big sale. much as we can get the chinese surprise and delight a customer. to agree to now. or come up with the winning idea. and 10 minutes is all you need to finally give your business there is still another month to work it out but to leave the the internet technology it really needs. tougher issues for phase two, we ll prove it. this is an enormous breakthroug give us 10 minutes. if we can t offer you faster speed or better savings breakthrough. very proud of what the president than your current internet service, and what he s done. we ll give you 300 dollars for your time. that s very encouraging. call now to get your comcast business 10 minute advantage it s interesting that it s so public this time and you say it and take your business beyond. was broken down into phases because the last time it was all comcast business. behind closed doors and didn t beyond fast. think the deal was going to happen and parts of the deal the president thought would be done so this is force their hand a bit forcing it to be so public? calling my advice from your leo to say something and he s involving the chinese back home in this deal. part of what the chinese had to do this time was a good thing. brought a lot more people than usual. they brought the equivalent of the chairman of the federal reserve, they got governor edp steve mnuchin referred to, that s why this is so successful. over all you can imagine the opposite that we just keep on haggling back and forth and have no progress. markets start to slide around the world, more and more talk of the u.s. containment. so the way the president is doing this, he s pocketing the contentions and they have been significant. he s sweetening the pot himself several ways but he s waiting until xi jinping in santiago, chile, if things don t get solved they will be solved face-to-face with president xi and that s the way to do and in a dictatorship like china. martha: with regard to what the president said in a sound bite before we came to yo you, use say a couple of things martha: some prominent democrats assayed churches and things where you stand on it, a little bit confusing. other religious institutions the first one was with lou dobbs should lose their tax-exempt on wednesday night. status if they don t support try to bring up a topic this gay marriage. listen to two 2020 candidates at is a sound bite. an lgbt town hall last night. let s play it. bringing up just tell me what watch. do you think religious happened with hunter biden. i ve never seen him get so institutions like colleges, secretive my entire life. churches, charity, should they lose tax exempt status if they they would discuss icbm warheads oppose same-sex marriage? yes. sooner than what hunter biden was doing in china. there can be no reward to, no that s a big area where the benefit, and the for anyone in chinese know they don t want any american probe into what happened with hunter biden. any institution, any organization in america that denies the full civil rights of martha: after that in exchange with a financial times every single one of us. reporter, says i got a bit of the need to follow the law. background with hunter biden from the chinese. people can have their own which is it? beliefs but we are not going to discriminate against people just because of who they are. did you get a lot of information or were they tight-lipped? martha: those cummins i only saw scholars, i didn t prompting backlash including see the government. they don t want to talk about florida senator rick scott, beto it, that s what i was telling o rourke confirmed what we ve known a long time, democrats don t care about religious lou dobbs. liberty. this is about a complete disregard for the freedoms in literature our constitution. what s going on with the financial times is a little here now, former catholic street more sinister. i have known this reporter 20 years, he s a great guy. good to have both of you here, gentlemen. thank you very much. posting that email to ensure that i had said i got let me start with you for a lot of reasons i m interested to get your take on this. what do you think? i m in favor of gay marriage legally as they could possibly exist. i got married a few weeks ago to my husband. so i am on the record in favor of same-sex message. i m not on board at all on this from beto o rourke. i think constitutionally it is clearly a massive violation. i think this would go 9-0 at the supreme court. it s a punitive action by the government to enforce something frankly that would impinge on the free exercise of religion. we are talking about churches, mosques, it s really quite extreme. politically in terms of public opinion, the way gay marriage went from quite unpopular to now a significant majority opinion was by arguing fairness and equality. if our loved as an you, let s just be treated equally. a lot of americans said, yeah, that sounds right to us. now it s time for punishment from the government if you don t get in line with this new secular orthodoxy. i think that would rub a lot of people the wrong way including many supporters of gay marriage. martha: very interesting. jonathan, what do you think? we often hear about the separation of church and state. whenever somebody publicly affirms their fate in the public square. there is a group with ulcers of outcry, that supposed be left inside the halls of the church, inside your own home, but don t bring it out because we are mixing up this is the example of the government wanting to get inside our churches on what we can or cannot preach. what are they going to tax? what they are going to tax are the buildings and they are going to take the buildings away. they will attack st. patrick s cathedral. they catholic church would have to pay millions and millions of dollars to have a church. what we are seeing is a total i found that extremely revealing that they were showing their cards. what they want to do is have this terrible infusion of government into religion and there is no separation there of church and state. martha: it s an interesting point. it certainly would be lucrative for the government if he lost that tax-exempt status. here is one legal he says is blatantly unconstitutional, church ministries should be allowed to hold centuries old belief without of government retribution. i guess it raises some questions for some people about religious tax exemption at institutions and why that exist in the first place. what are your thoughts on that? and other political point i heard about we just heard in the previous answer, got a big round of applause, and a of white progressives i think are on board with this because they have in mind as the bogeyman here, white evangelical christians who support donald trump my but i wonder if beto o rourke on the campaign trail went down to some southern black churches and gave them the same question. hey, i hope you are okay with gay marriage because if you are not there is something coming your way from the government. there are a key element of the country that are not right wing republicans who i think deeply would have a problem with this and i agree with the constitutional point to your last question, martha. martha: final thoughts? imagine if this wasn t gay marriage, this is any church not in favor of abortion, they should have their tax exempt status taken away. we could go and give all sorts of examples. but this is their move. it s a very dangerous one i think politically but constitutionally. martha: thank you very much. good to see you both tonight. coming up, it is ladies night on chelsea clinton s possible future in politics and one nba coach s very controversial response to a question about china s human rights record. none of us are perfect. people in china didn t ask me about people owing ar-15s and mowing each other down in a mal mall. the most inspiring minds, the most compelling stories: audible. steven could only imaginem 24hr to trenjoying a spicy taco.burn, now, his world explodes with flavor. nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts for all-day all-night protection. can you imagine 24-hours without heartburn? i need all the breaks i can get. line? liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. that s a lot of words. only pay for what you need. liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. martha: big topic this week. how does an nba coach defend doing business in china considering the communist party s questionable record on human rights. here is how steve kerr, coach of the golden state warriors, defends people speaking their mind in the united states. watch this. nor has our record of human rights abuses come up either. things that our country needs to look at and resolve. that has not come up either. none of us are perfect. the people in china didn t aska mall. martha: hot topic. what is your reaction? i think it goes to show you at a time where we see a lot of businesses take action on different social issues and take political positions, it demonstrates it s about the bottom line. they only do it if it s in the interest of the bottom line. clearly it was not with the tweet about china and the reaction we have seen from the nba, steve kerr and some players. it shows how beholden so many american companies are to china. marriott fired an employee for liking a post and with hollywood pulling scenes from movies to accommodate china so they can have their movies play there. martha: what about the human rights in the united states and in this china? i covered the nba for sacramento when i was a radio reporter. i went to japan with the sacramento kings. i watched internationally how important these voices are. he has a popular and big voice. he spokesout often. people listen to what he says. when you listen to him talking about this, it s a contradiction for fans of his. you are speaking about this, but the nba is not doing anything about participating in china. fans are on the sidelines wondering who to root for. i look at this situation and i find it a hypocritical for people condemning steve kerr s comments. our leaders in the white house have rubbed shoulders with kim jong-un who does horrific things in north korea and there is not this outcry. pointing out the criticisms is what makes our country so great. that s why all of four of us are able to sit here now. someone said it s not fair to discriminate against women or against african-americans. i think these criticisms of our own country make us better. and the hong kong protestors waving american flags are calling out to all of us. there is a responsibility with that. martha: this moment from the town hall with elizabeth warren and a questioner name morgan cox. a reporter says senator, i am old fashioned and my faith teaches me that marriage is between one man and one woman. what is your response? well, i am assume it s a guy and i will say just marry one woman. [cheers and applause]. i am cool with that. assuming you can find one. [laughing]. martha: what do you read into that? it s not just that. it s also talking about what we say from beto o rourke threatening to take away tax exempt status from religious groups. it s broader. people question why christians can like president trump with his colorful past. we see this animosity from people on the left towards christians and evangelicals, whether it s kamala harris questioning a district court judge nominee or the knights of columbus affiliation or bernie sanders. to some of the comments last night from beto. that s why. martha: there is a snarkiness to that. well, yeah. that s what she was saying. i think it was goofy. it was a good moment for her. she had 90,000 retweets and 20,000 likes. it was a good moment for her. martha: i talked to somebody covering it. she said everybody in that room and the spin room took it for what it was. they thought it was a joke. but a lot of people didn t think it was a joke. you look at the pugh research of how many christians are in america. that s a lot of votes. do you think chelsea clinton could win a congressional seat in new york? possibly. access to a lot of donors. i would rather be that than a reporter. martha: that s the story on friday october 11th, 2019. the story goes on and on. see you on monday night at 7. have a great weekend, everybody. tucker: this is the fox news alert. the president will address supporters in lake charles, louisiana. the president announced the departure of his acting dhs secretary of state. a remarkable rally last night and we expect another one tonight. in the meantime, welcome to tucker carlson tonight. a story we have been following for the last few days. by day, steve kerr is the coach of the golden state warriors basketball team in the state of california. in his spare time, kerr moon
the foundation of this country to have these values to do is to return to her use it to live by and to the principles of unity justice and freedom and i want to read to you my. original. series starts october 21st on d w. this is a show coming up. in a familiar land the duke and duchess of cambridge. on their 1st official trip to the country how important it is and kate s visit. plus. a kid s film at the center of a territorial dispute. as the old from t.v. theaters. welcome to do. it s good to have you with us and it s been called their most complex to up to date and with good reason prince william and his wife kate are on their 1st official visit to pakistan a country dealing with ever present security issues the duke and duchess of cambridge will also look at pakistan s efforts at fighting climate change and to highlight the country as a quote dynamic aspirational and forward looking mission those words from britain s high commissioner to pakistan thomas drew the couple have visited a school a national park and had a private lunch with prime minister imran khan but it was that arrival in a column for took 2 also called an auto rickshaw in the subcontinent that had heads the couple were attending an evening reception at the pakistan monument in the capital islamabad. i m sure they ve done it for be sure has been following their visit why is this visit so important for pakistan you know it s been a while. a british royalty visit took place in pakistan the last time somebody visited was about 13 years ago and this couple is young it s glamorous it s charismatic. and the visit could not have come at a better time for pakistan when the government faces challenges on the foreign policy front khana means thinking the prime minister is becoming unpopular but this visit helps showcase the positive side of pakistan it s breathtaking beauty the diversity of its culture and that it has its people essentially hardworking and decent people so it s a win win for both britain and pakistan but aside from that the royal couple themselves appear to be very popular in pakistan why is that well a lot of people relate to this couple because of their longing for princess diana she visited pakistan couple of times in the ninety s the last time she was there was in 1907 and this reference came up quite a few times during this visit when the duke was meeting children in school they said you know we really loved your mother she was an amazing woman and he also said you know i was also fond of so people have those memories and i think in pakistan s collective memory. there s a that link with princess diana of prince william and kate middleton so a lot of people see it in that light and it s part and parcel of the collective memory of pop star and how they relate to the royal family shows their journey from a thanks very much for that. but there appears to be another side to this visit and that is a criticism on social media reporter michelle has been looking at some of the criticism and joins me now in the studio with more michelle welcome what have you found indeed there has been criticism of this is that there are some pakistanis who look at this as window dressing who look at it as a way to distract the so-called masses from some very real problems pakistan faces economically socially and environmentally there s a tweet that we can bring up here that reflects some of that sentiment so even in the u.k. people have woken up to the fact that for decades the british media has used the spectacle of the royal family to distract from the failures of the government maybe that s why they decided to bring their show to a more global audience and then there s another tweet pointing fingers at the legacy of british colonialism in the region it says if it weren t for these royals we won t have a dumb and fascist army ruling over us the mess they left behind to ensure there is no peace ever in the subcontinent and that tweet and hashtag will visit pakistan some very strong language that makes for interesting discussions but overwhelmingly the response has been positive present not been to this visit a lot of it has to do but then should be with the updates and in particular fashion choices oh yes there is no way around it brash when you look at this visit you have to look at the fashion and pulling that focus has been kate and she has managed to stay true to her own style and yet salute local designers and we re going to bring up a tweet here that basically is a love letter to her and her out that so far here she s wearing a ray of shower commute that is the long dress and trouser combo that is ubiquitous for women across pakistan she s wearing blue that s a nod to diana the people s princess beloved in pakistan and then please note this green shade. it is very it s a nod to the pakistani flag so she has managed to stay true to herself and yet she looks like a very elegant pakistani woman going on about about her business. and then we have to talk about this moment that we see back here and i do not know if you can top this in terms of winning the hearts of the pakistani people this is the perfect combination of pakistani high fashion and focal church and this is a tweet we re going to bring up put out by coming to palace and this shows the prince stepping up his game he is wearing a traditional share one you suit he says courting the duchess in a tough talk painted in the traditional pakistani truck art style it s almost reminiscent of their wedding day when they were riding around in that hot red car you know it s kind of like the pakistani iteration of that just just fantastic i mean why would you want to hobnob with them and i know if i was in pakistan invited to a party and i had a real budget i would want to wear something like this i would certainly love to wear some of that going to show a lot of the. are amazing and i talked more like a truck about going to bad things very much for covering even written about a very welcome. but children s film about a chinese girl who hoped to genting. political controversy abominable has been pulled from screens vs a little more of that in a bit but here is a quick peek of the film is being marketed as everest the little yeti. sure you get home to your family members who not get yourself. but kids in vietnam won t be able to save for you anymore the government has the film over them up but short of chinese claims in the south china sea that at odds with. and there s plenty of people supporting the nightstands. so it s an insult to vietnam is a very sensitive matter to be shown in vicinity. i m not going to watch it even if it were still shown in the cinema the $9.00 map is straight up wrong and i m absolutely not going to support it. with. the 9 dash man look closely behind that big x. in the still shot from the movie and you ll see it the dash very political line. it s a sensitive topic globally but especially between china which claims all of the south china sea above the dashes and its asian neighbors like vietnam. china s neighbors have the backing of the united states which sometimes patrols the skies over and sails its aircraft through these disputed waters. dad always wanted me to travel the world taking us back to the map moment in the children s movie which was co-produced by china based pearl studio and hollywood s dream works. i m quite upset it rouses the patriot in me that clearly belongs to vietnam s maritime sovereignty. but nobody employed me at 1st i was planning to go to see this film but after i learned about the dotted line that marks china s claims i decided i should not watch it. and a week after it opened a vietnamese movie goers can not watch the movie called everest the little yeti in some parts of the world and abominable in others movie posters and the movie itself had been removed a geo political boundary dispute takes precedence over a kid s film that for a moment takes sides. staying in vietnam where the art of making 600 by hand from 6. could be lost forever people have been making a living from sin for generations but as it gets more and more difficult to make ends meet their view of life is under threat. it s a painstaking process women in this village have been teasing silk threads by hand for over a century. boiled to kill the larvae inside hot work in the summer months each worker processes about 30 kilos of cookies per day. the finished thread hung in the sun to dry meaning bad weather can spell disaster. you re with family in the production from silkworms kerns depends 90 percent on the weather we need to have sunshine if the quality of current is good and the weather is rainy then our products will be ruined but. that s not the only factor making life difficult for the. after the thread to spawn and try to take into market and eventually export it to allow into thailand profit margins are thin. no to math people with this job varies every year it s very precarious if the market price goes up then we might have some spare money otherwise it may just be enough to cover a living costs and we can t see even a thing. many here worrying about the future of this ancient art they say that young people find the work too difficult and leave to seek employment in the city instead skills that have been passed on through generations could soon be lost. traditions fighting. that s social today you can find more on our website. and on facebook and twitter as well. will even all the more images are from prince william and his wife. to spot him to the extent of i. pod. the law. the body. blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. blah blah blah. blah. blah blah blah blah blah. blah blah. blah. blah blah. blah. this. whole commitments of species. words if you want. to get those are big changes and must start with small steps. just tell stories of creative people and innovative projects around the world. like the commitment to use to great images of emotions and be forced 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fox news channel to come. we will see you back here harris: i wonder about the missed opportunities, because if tomorrow morning. most ame electorate. you are reaching out and saying bill: i will see you too tomorrow morning. we don t want to do business with certain places because they sandra: that s a plan. politically don t agree, you re outnumbered starts right now. missing out on the opportunity harris: big news day, of saying our city is so fox news alert, president trump fabulous, you should check us acting you ukraine ambassador is out. we will do a little business just so we can have some dealing with a subpoena to relationships, so you know what testify. a part of the inquiry after the it is like to deal with people who have a different point of state department took block the view. look, obviously some of it comes testimony and block him from down to the color of money. appearing. are you missing out on that for pressing taylor about text messages between him and other diplomats where he raised you municipality? bret: they are not showing concern that ukraine aid was that ln-president bush example. being connected to melissa: that s for sure. investigations. this as democrats reportedly see democrats are reportedly concerned about what that means their impeachment inquiry taking longer than expected. for 2020, so just how worried extending beyond thanksgiving as should they be. it is a lot of cash. they deepened their probe. speak of the power behind the president trump went after the president and the energy behind inquiry, and a controversial him is like nothing we have ever tweet this morning saying, so seen. i say that the greatest poll is some day if the democrat becomes the fund-raising. president and the republicans when the house by a tiny margin, chevy s the only brand. they can impeach the president without due process or fairness or any legal rights. all republicans must remember what they are witnessing here. a lynching. but we will win. senator at lindsey graham says that he is outraged for other lawmakers. i don t know how to characterize the former president except as grotesque. it is disgusting to say the least. harris: you are watching outnumbered. i m harris faulkner. here today is melissa francis, fox news contributor lisa boothe, former aide to president obama, and in the center seat, fox news chief bret baier, also the anger and executive editor of special report with a great new book out today. it s always great to have you to earn j.d. power dependability awards. here. bret: lots to talk about, across cars. trucks. we can talk about the book and suvs. later, but it is a fun day. four years in a row. harris: let s hit it. since more than 32,000 real people. so the president tweeted produce just like me. all democrat lawmaker responding and me. and me. to his use of the word lynching took the survey that decided these awards. it was only right as grotesque. that you hear the good news from real people. where is the president going like us. here? i m daniel. i m casey. bret: listen, that word i m julio. only chevy has earned comes with a lot of history. j.d. power dependability awards across cars, harris: you don t have to trucks and suvs. tell me. bret: i know, so when four years in a row. senator graham defends it, clearly the president feels we re oscar mayer deli fresh your very first sandwich,m. your mammoth masterpiece. aggrieved by people coming after him, and some of the coverage and.whatever this was. that he receives, but when you because we make our meat add that word, it obviously with the good of the deli and no artificial preservatives. make every sandwich count stirs the pot and causes a major with oscar mayer deli fresh. reaction, but he was looking towards that or not, i think that there is a lot of criticism that will come his way today. harris: you know, when you look at this in its totality, the president s messaging, and the pure message, he is frustrated as brett is pointing out. but he said yesterday that democrats are coming after him, and republicans are not necessarily standing together. a johanna: i think that he is not wrong that republicans are not standing together. but some of these types of behaviors are the exact kind of behaviors that i think leave republicans wondering what they are defending and why they have to defend this. i think if i were him, we talked about it on friday, when you are under impeachment inquiry, even though it is just an inquiry, you should have message control, and so the fact that he is throwing this out over and over, it is hard for republicans to defend when you are just taking the victim complex every day. harris: lisa, before i come to you, you mentioned deputy press secretary for the white house, let s watch him defending the president s tweet. here, hello! starts with -hi!mple. the president was not trying how can i help? to compare himself to the a data plan for everyone. horrific history in this country everyone? everyone. at all. what he was trying to point out, let s send to everyone! [ camera clicking ] clearly was that he has been wifi up there? -ahhh. attacked relentlessly by the sure, why not? mainstream media without cause, without evidence since the day he took over in the office. how d he get out?! a camera might figure it out. that was easy! lisa: he works for the glad i could help. white house which is doing his at xfinity, we re here to make life simple. easy. awesome. job at defending the president, so come ask, shop, discover at your xfinity store today. that s what he should be doing. but with the left and many other media will take any chance to attack the president, that does not mean that you hand them reasons to attack you. using a word like that certainly does that. i think the context and the point that president trump was trying to make which is a terribly unfair process. you have democrats holding impeachment inquiry in secret. you have a guy at the helm, adam schiff who lied about having contact with the whistle-blower. and a guy who said that he had a parody in an opening statement and said it was an attempt to mislead the public. a somebody who lied about russia and they are being collusion there. so the context to the point that president trump was trying to make was fair, but he stepped on his own message by using a word lisa: welcome back, like that that has such a president trump making fund-raising history and alarming democrats. the president and the rnc historically sensitive and sad raising $300 million for the connotation. reelection campaign this year. bret: words matter. more than any other sitting president in history at this right? words matter. point of the campaign. and when clarence thomas said a with democrats for five months high tech lynching, it meant something for him as an away from settling on a nominee. african-american man to say one party strategist telling that. this is a different politico the resources he has harris: it was on purpose will be put to work anywhere and to say that. everywhere that he feels like he speak to you make a great point couldn t scare up electoral about hogan gidley, his job to votes. get out there and defend this, democrats will never catch up. it s too much money. absolutely nobody else in the that is real trouble, i m not here to curse the dark, but it planet has to. so for anybody else who is going to jump on this and burn their is dark. so what strategic advantages fingers on this fire, don t do it. i mean, there is no reason to do does this have? it. it is in the know-go zone with a bret: they might have not not that other words. played in before. you see a focus on minnesota, a harris: so, you know, state where republicans believe they can turn it back read. johanna, you said something that it is a completely different was really interesting about the campaign then it was in 2016 because it is flush with cash. messaging here and the president of the united states. if the goal is to get i talk about the double-edged sword of impeachment, one of the republicans on board to support negative things is that it has him in this journey, does this flooded money into the trump campaign just by these emails get you to that goal? i guess is a question that i would ask about the tweet where that say, he is getting impeached, we need to step up he uses the word lynching. let s move on and then i will and support. get a response to this. so let s compare this to may be other times when you see a speed melissa: this is double the up or slow down or just the money that president obama and the dnc had when he was going normalcy of putting together an impeachment inquiry. for reelection. if you want to compare it to recent dollars, think about that 599 days before house lawmakers voted to authorize an being double and there is more impeachment inquiry into smaller donors among the group, president nixon following the so more ability to keep raising, watergate break-in. you notice the length of time. there is criticism for democrats that they are trying to speed up the clock and now trying to slow wow. lisa: is there a level of down. here s another point by axios. enthusiasm that people are missing? 260 days for the house to do the you see the cash influx to the same after the first trump campaign, are people washington post reported an missing enthusiasm? harris: you mean on the affair between president clinton and monica lewinsky. democrat side? and just 11 days for lisa: yes, the media as well. nancy pelosi to announce a harris: president trump was formal impeachment inquiry smart when he was then candidate without a full vote into president trump after donald j. trump, people can commiserate with you on the adam schiff issued a subpoena for the ukraine whistle-blower media and some of the reports complaint. and you say what? fake news, he has found this way johanna: i think a lot of of agreement of turning that agreement of all of the things the ukraine narrative is that people say they don t like contrived to me. president trump had concerns into a marketing tool. about corruption in ukraine. if you are running against the that has been established in the transcript of the call, and the process of you elected me, but they want to undo that, as special envoy to ukraine has democrats, how do you sell that? said as much as well. i don t know how you sell it, and i think if president trump is concerned about meddling in but they have to figure it out, because if they are planning to the 2016 election, there are things out there that would make impeachment not just drive those concerns. so asking the ukrainian inquiry, but full blown impeachment longer into 2020, government, especially a new government that you are trying they have to find a tool to sell to get to know and determine if you can trust or not, to ask that. lisa: i think they are even them to look into that is selling straws. completely fair. the amount of resources we have harris: paper or plastic. spent to get down to russia lisa: by bringing a meddling. if other countries were minnesota, so the trump campaign interfering, why would we not want to find out? comes with 1.5% ahead of the bret: i would say that the testimony that we are kind of minnesota democrat party that says they can t keep up. hearing about beyond closed doors about beau taylor is is that a concern? do you worry that president trump putting least suggesting that he is saying states in play when they do not have a nominee. something that democrats find very interesting. johanna: campaigns are if they are, if they do. about oxygen and money, the if we believe the congressmen that are coming out and saying incumbent always has an this is the most horrific day i have had in congress, we have advantage. so you cannot underestimate yet to find out what they are president trump. i watch that rally the other saying behind closed doors. night in dallas, and i saw 22,000 people there. i think the speed of this is and i know that there is an worth noting. and there has been no vote. enthusiasm. i think that we still have not and what is it going to look explained some of the hard like? issues. and i think that is true of will it happen before the end of the year? or does it go into the election republicans in positions on year? harris: so, johanna, i come trade for example, we have not back to you about the timetable. explained some of the reason why this benefits central america. the first democrats, some were and so some of the policies have saying oh, it would be prudent to get this done before not benefited people in thanksgiving to put a full vote minnesota. so the question is, are the democrats going to spend the before that date, now saying time and are republicans going beyond that point, now it could go till the end of the year, who to help talk about these really important issues? does anything the week of christmas. so it s going to be the first of lisa: we will leave that up new year s potentially. to minnesota voters, we are why was the clock set like an moving on. egg timer to begin with? bret has a brand-new book hitting shelves today. we will talk about it. please do not miss it. johanna: yeah, i think politically if i was given a you will want to hear about it. pedal political analysis, i hope stay with us. great news for my fellow veterans. that this is done by the time that the democrats finish their political process and have a va mortgage rates have dropped to near record lows. nominee. harris: so june? that s how long it took for the newday team is working overtime so every veteran can save $2000 a year. obama and clinton. johanna: we will disagree on this, and you and i talked about foreign meddling, and i think it is important to look at all foreign meddling and have a p@wri @ process where any campaign can (amber jagger) if we don t give students from an underserved background call up the fbi or call up the the technology that they need in school, authorities and talk to them. they re not going to be competitive because nobody should be in the workforce that s waiting for them. investigating these things unilaterally and allowing since verizon innovative learning, foreign government any interference in our election. students have hardware, connectivity, and i think that that is a and quality curriculum. process by which when we are the jobs of tomorrow will involve technology. talking about lisa: if we get to the now students are truly hopeful for what they may achieve. point where after democrats have a nominee, we are so far so why not leave this in the hands of the voters? why even move forward with impeachment? if you are moving up to that point where we are in the summer great riches will find you when liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, before the election, why not leave it in the hands of the so you only pay for what you need. voters especially if he is acquitted in the senate? wow. thanks, zoltar. how can i ever repay you? bret: isn t that the plan? maybe you could free zoltar? to get to an election issue that if it comes shy of in the trial, and he gets an acquittal, if thanks, lady. taxi! they impeach in the house and he gets an acquittal in the senate, only pay for what you need. liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. it is used as an election issue. lisa: he will have a chance to defend himself pretty harris: let s hit the pause button right there. the american people as you look at the polling have talked about that picked up when they are asked about impeachment and removal, yes, you are seeing that. more people getting behind that, but you are also seeing and understanding if you read deeper into some of the poles that people see that this is not necessarily a fair process. because they have not taken a vote that we give republican subpoena power in the right to defend the present on the record, so even as bret says, it s part of a calculation to keep that at bay while they build their case. johanna: i am for a full vote. harris: there other democrats that are in congress. johanna: some running for president. but ambassador taylor, when i was looking at it, any ambassador, that is their job to protect a relationship with a u.s. ally. so you are going into these meetings and you have to defend the u.s. position on whatever it is. so in the event that you are withholding aid and there is a question, that is not surprising that he would try to get to the bottom, because he has to respond to ukraine on why are you not giving us the aid. the thing that is unusual is when they say, oh, no quid pro quo. you can t go back to them and say no quid pro quo, that is not an answer. melissa: we don t know anything that he is actually saying because that is behind closed doors on the public does not get a be a part of it. it is all conjecture. harris: and it goes rest of the way of capital hell and leaks like a sieve. if you re going to sleep like something, leak everything, so that the entire floor gets wet. bret: jim jordan now saying that they have to go into another room to read the scripts the republicans do with the democratic aide sitting nearby. they don t have transcripts of the interviews that they conducted. harris: in the sitting member of congress, that is interesting. i m glad that you are here. always anyway, but you are get the perfectly grilled flavors of an outdoor grill indoors, brilliant. cash advantage, how the and because it s a ninja foodi, it can do even more, president s historic campaign fund-raising hall has democrats like transform into an air fryer. quite worried. plus we can see renewed fighting the ninja foodi grill, the grill that sears, sizzles, and air fry crisps. between turkey and the kurds when the u.s. broke the cease-fire and in the next few alice loves the smell of gain so much, she wished it came in a fabric softener too. hours. the stern warning sent from secretary of state pompeo. [throat clears] say hello to your fairy godmother, alice. oh and look they got gain scent beads and dryer sheets too! the amount of student loan debt i have i m embarrassed to even say to help every veteran refinance their mortgage i felt like i was going to spend my whole adult life at these near record low rates. paying this off thanks to sofi, one call can save you $2000 every year. i can see the light at the end of the tunnel as of 12pm today, i am debt free we have no debt, we don t owe anybody anything, and it s fantastic melissa: i m sure you already know this, but bret baier has a brand-new book out saturpain happens. today. everybody is talking about it aleve it. aleve is proven stronger and longer on pain than tylenol. three days at the brink: fdr s daring gamble to win world war ii. tell us about it. when pain happens, aleve it. bret: really excited. all day strong. launch day. at the brink, because people forget that we could ve lost world war ii. it made her feel proud. in 1943, hitler was on the move they saw us, they recognized us. ancestry® specifically showed in europe. we won a couple of battles in the regions that my family was from. japan, but still, maybe we don t the state of jalisco. pull that out. the city of guadalajara. fdr and winston churchill does see decide that they need stalin the results were a reflection of our family and the results were really human. to break hitler. so stalin demands that it is i feel proud about my identity. going to be in tehran, and it is greater details. richer stories. a secret effort to get there and now with health insights. while they are there, all of the get your dna kit at ancestry.com. intrigue that happens at this conference, you think that conferences are not intriguing, there is a lot of fly on the wall stuff here. and they plan operation overlord, which we know today as dda. without that meeting. without that moment, the war is different. though world is different. and we might be doing the show in german. i m not sure. melissa: when you look back at history and learn about it as a kid, it feels inevitable what the outcome was. and it never actually is. it is fascinating to go inside that period of time, especially when he put it in the context of all of the meetings and everything going on today. this has all of the drama and so much more. bret: it really does. it reads like that. this is the third in the series. i did eisenhower, reagan, and this is fdr. so there is the middle of the cold war, and reagan was the end of the cold war, it s like the star wars movies, back to the prelude. the beginning of the cold war. lisa: young readers as wel well. melissa: i hate to say this out loud, because i have not gotten my addition yet, but the young readers version is so brilliant. i have kids that are nine and 13 and i want to share books with work from them, what a fantastic gift. bret: 9-14-year-olds, and my two sons are reading this, at least i hope they are. but the big book is selling everywhere you get books. melissa: what is next? bret: i m going to take a break. i ll take three days off. but it is really exciting. and i am psyched. we had the special over the weekend. and you can see the special on fox nation now. it is posted. melissa: how do you do that with everything else going on? bret: a lot of caffeine. i write at night and have a great team, researcher and coauthor who has been fantastic. melissa: all right, bret baier, thank you so much. what are you doing back there, junior? since we re obviously lost, there is so much more in bret s i m rescheduling my xfinity customer service appointment. ah, relax. i got this. book, head over to fox nation which gps are you using anyway? for three days at the brink: a little something called instinct. been using it for years. fdr s daring gamble to win world war ii, as he explores fdr s treacherous journey across the yeah, that s what i m afraid of. atlantic at the height of world war ii for the first he knows exactly where we re going. my whole body is a compass. oh boy. meeting of the big brief where plans for the day would be set the my account app makes today s in motion. xfinity customer service simple, easy, awesome. we love it. thanks to everybody on the cou not my thing. couch. bret: what about world war ii? melissa: he stole the young readers copy and ran away. i m going to get it back. thank you, bret baier, we are back on the couch at noon eastern. now here is harris. harris: i love when they gossip about me. democrats calling a key witness to capitol hill as the president is pushing back on the impeachment inquiry. we are outnumbered overtime now. i m harris faulkner. acting ambassador to the ukraine looking to testify between three house panels after fox news was told that the state department tried to prevent taylor from appearing. democrats expected to press him on text messages he sent to the e.u. ambassador, and raised concerns about a possible quid pro quo over military aid with harris: high tensions in the ukraine. the middle east, and the a short time ago, one democratic cease-fire in northern syria said to it inspire and about three hours. as turkey s president says he is lawmaker walking out of taylor s ready to ramp up a military deposition behind closed doors assault on kurdish fighters if they don t expand the safe zone. mike pompeo with a stern warning with a closed-door testimony was when asked about turkey s a game changer. intentions towards the kurds. all i have to say is that in we use all the powers that we have. do you suggest that economic powers that we have used. my ten short months in congress, we will use them. we will use the diplomatic powers as well. those are the preference. we prefer peace to war. but military action needed, you should know that president trump is fully prepared to undertake that action. melissa: saying that u.s. troops that cross the border do not have permission to stay. the news coming after the pentagon said they will be repositioned to continue operations against isis. how do you think it plays out from there? bret: i think this is a moment that is up in the air, it seems like they put troops back into syria to guard the oil fields. they are not coming home. they are in iraq. so i think that this is a precarious point. and one in which you have fighters that in just a few hours could be back at it and really some of them never stopped. melissa: served ohana, mike pompeo made the point a while ago when he was on with maria bardo bono, and she asked him, do you think if the u.s. did not remove third troops from the borders on that erdogan would have gone ahead? he said 100%. i was very closely involved when president erdogan informed us that he was ready to move and would do so within hours. saw that there were american soldiers on the way and i think we were going to have nato on nato fighting and the president made the right decision to get american forces out of the way, do you believe that? johanna: i m going to give him the benefit of the doubt that he has more information than i do. but turkey has been a nato ally since 1952, they are the second largest troop contributor to nato. this is a very dangerous fight. and somebody who grew up in peace times, i think that sometimes my generation takes for granted the peace and security that we have, and we should not. i was at the 60th anniversary of nato when they walked the world leaders across from germany to france. and this is an area where my grandfather served in the military to have this peace and security, and i think that we are going to have to see the president tread very lightly here, because we are in danger of territory. melissa: at the same time turkey does consider the towards an existential threat. you talk about the power of nato they have made it clear that they do believe that having that on their border is the most dangerous threat they can face. lisa: you can see how the rhetoric from pompeo versus erdogan comes to a head. if any norms are violated or any american interests are at risk. have erdogan saying if they don t vacate the safe zone that they will crush them, how they come to a head, and how it has been tested by what pompeo said. but i personally think that making the point that syria is a much bigger political vulnerability for president trump than even the ukraine issue. as i mentioned earlier, ukraine is contrived, this is really frustrated and irritated and alienated key republicans on capitol hill when they need the allies. so this is the biggest political vulnerability of her the a administration. bret: therapy kk kurds, and what we consider bad figures, it is a complex scenario. if u.s. troops were on the ground with the kurds, i have a hard time believing that turkey would make an action against. melissa: you doubt what mike pompeo said? country. melissa: we are getting this breaking news, a kurdish leader writing a letter to vice president pence saying that he carried out all obligations under the cease-fire agreement. general mass loam has written a letter saying that he carried out all of the obligations under the agreement that was made with the turks. on the 17th, mainly withdrawing all pg forces out of the turkish control safe zone. the cease-fire expires at 1500, what are your thoughts, harris mr. mark harris: we got reports early on that the cease-fire had some perforations in it. there was still little pockets of fighting and so on and so forth. so we know how that can go and how quickly things can ramp back up, and with the call as you put out against the kurds who, you are right, some of the turkish consider them to be an existential force against them. but i look at the political calculations of the president and what he has to be careful of here. according to the military times, 96 members through the last midterms and sitting in congress whether they are veterans or currently serving like tulsi gabbard who is active duty in her home state in the army national guard. in the 160 congress, 30 are democrats, the 66 are republicans. so some of the pushback, you ask whether the president is calculating any of that, i would say that he is. some of the pushback from those members in congress who are looking at the blood and treasure that was spent over four months taking a city like a bombing in syria and watching it go back it is tough to watch that on the lives that were lost and the people that stood, you are right, there are certain actions, but i wonder what the politics are for calculating this for the white house. bret: lisa is not wrong that republicans are much more vocal when it comes to syria than they are in the impeachment process. melissa: we think are turkey will agree that the withdrawal has taken place under the terms of the agreement. it means that the turkish cause is a turkish halt in military operations. that s from the kurdish side. we will see. president trump sounding off on his old rival hillary clinton after her controversial comments on presidential candidate tulsi gabbard. why the president wishes that clinton made those comments much sooner. plus the cnn analyst says that he is so sorry for putting so much focus on the clinton email scandal, calling at the likely reason that she lost. is it fair to blame her defeat on the media? 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johanna: she is on a book tour, she is not on the ballot. bret: no one is a russian asset at this table. johanna: so she as a combat veteran, she is currently in the reserves, and so no, it is not helpful. i think that she should take a cue from president obama on how to behave during a democratic primary. but i will say, president trump always finds any opportunity he can to poke president trump. earlier on the error, we had on america the newsroom today, he said this is not helpful. it is distracting. what is she doing, lisa? lisa: she is trying to get attention, to joe hana s point, but the book shattered document how they hillary clinton campaign 24 hours after losing sought to blame russia for the election loss. you look at the stabilizing effects of the dossier that was bought and paid for by democrats and hillary clinton, used on the country and the fbi in some capacity to obtain a fisa warrant. you look at the impact that that has had on the country, the russians are pretty happy about that. so perhaps hillary clinton does not have a lot of room to be talking. not calling her an asset, just to be clear by any means, but you look at the impact that it has had, not good. bret: if hillary clinton wanted to take away a potential threat from tulsi gabbard, talking about her like this only gives her campaign oxygen, money, polling, everything else. so she is trying to prevent something, she did the opposite. harris: i want to follow that thought, that was my first thought, i said wow, this makes me want to support tulsi gabbard, wait a second, that makes hillary clinton the russian asset, and then i remembered it is all insane. [laughter] bret: over the weekend her husband tweeting a picture of her in uniform laying a flower on the grave of another veteran saying this is who she is loyal to. that s pretty powerful. harris: and tulsi gabbard, i mentioned this before, she is still active with the army national guard, she is not just past serving. we put a scroll on outnumbered overtime a couple of weeks ago and ran it again because we got so much reaction to all of the reasons that hillary clinton blames for having lost. and some forms of macedonia, and joe biden. the list was so long we ha we ho scroll it in several pages. is that what this is about? or is it something different, because it feels calculated politically, what is next? lisa: one thing that i think is interesting is that you see what the democratic party, there is a deep divide. you can see it in the two front runners or cofront runners as joe biden puts it. but with harris: in iowa now it is three. pete buttigieg has moved in and they are splitting their early polling. lisa: fighting it out for the future of the democratic party, and part of that comes from the revelations that the dnc was in the tank for hillary clinton. leading to a deep divide, particularly from the progressive wing versus a more establishment, and we see that play out with gabbard and hillary clinton as well. melissa: jeffrey tobin is apologizing for how much time he and the media spent discussing hillary clinton s emails. back in 2016. watch. this is also a story about the news media and how much time we spent on that. and that is something that i have felt a great deal of personal responsibility for, because i talked about the emails. we spent months on it. hillary clinton very likely lost the election because of it. melissa: it is tobin s fault, what you think, harris? harris: this is trying to figure out why hillary clinton lost, if you re in a rest bill states, they will send you a postcard and let you know. there are some places she did go. and so now you bring a shine to yourself as a commentator by defending the woman who lost. i don t understand. bret: the emails did not prevent her from not going to wisconsin, you are right. and maybe not the media, may be james comey had something to do with it. maybe the investigation. harris: he was on that scroll. lisa: perhaps she is to blame. melissa: let me play the other side and if you think about what he is speaking to the obsession with the media of the saucy things versus the policy things. and i don t know, you can blame the media, or you can blame that people tune out when you go away from the saucy and over to the policies sometimes. i don t know, it is working for elizabeth warren. johanna: we have to stop relitigating the past election, because president trump won, and he is our president. and now there is a new race and a new election, and we need to look at what that election is going to do. and i think that that is actually where we need to talk about the media s role, because one of the concerns i have is here we are talking about lynching, and talking about this, we are not talking about the kitchen table issues, the economic issues, and that is a separate issue. what he is talking about, he was not, they were not talking about economic issues. harris: you are saying we are talking about it on the couch. but one of your candidates is absolutely not talking about it, that is elizabeth warren. she is doing fine just talking policy. so your bifurcated. lisa: focusing on impeachment is not a kitchen table issue when you look at polls in the states like iowa and only 6% of voters put it at the top of their list. johanna: you guys are driving this. lisa: our candidates are not spending every hour talking about this. bret: there is a double-edged sword, and democrats run the risk of driving impeachment on and middle of america saying you are not talking about the issues that i care about. and if that happens, then the election scenario changes for democrats. melissa: what about usmca? 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they are talking about city officials can t travel to other states where they have these bands. i don t know why the city officials they should be at home doing their work. and they can do business with companies that are headquarter in these other states, seems like they should be doing business coming in on with the local government, they should be doing business with the local government. i could not find what they thought the money offset was going to be. i think this amounts to a lot of nothing. a bret: that s right as far as numbers. it does amount to an issue in a political race or political races, and i think that governor ricketts is onto something. there is a disconnect that placed to every election cycle where middle of america says that is over is over the top. remember, when for example we were talking about hillary clinton earlier, i m not relitigating the last race, but there was a poll in pennsylvania that said that they thought hillary clinton cared more about the bathrooms in north carolina than she did about jobs in pennsylvania. and that disconnect, calling them coastal elites, whatever you call it is real and present in america politics today. johanna: it is dangerous i would even say, the idea of isolating someone you do not agree with is just not a good idea, it is not american, the idea is that we all need to work together as america, we are this republic, all of these states have states rights and i think that in their move, they were kind of doing what i have seen both parties do and say, oh, i disagree with them, and when you disagree with them on everything, all of a sudden you can t get along on anything. melissa: it is interesting, lisa, one of the themes i have heard repeated a bunch by smart people, whether it is in schools or business headings over on the business channel. people saying that you have to right now it is critically important that you can get together with people who have a completely different opinion, and work productively on a team with those people. that s what employers are looking for. that s what schools are looking for. that people have strong held opinions, but you have to be able to collaborate with people who have different points of view than you. lisa: when you lose that is when you start labeling people as things. we have seen a lot of you are
you are recognized. thank you. madame ambassador, like a hallmark movie. you ended up at georgetown, this is all okay. [laughter] but it was not your preference seven or eight months ago, correct? no, it was not. it was not your preference to be a victim of a smear campaign, was it? no. it was not your preference to be defamed by the president of the united states including today, was it? no. it wasn t your preference to be ousted at seemingly the pinnacle of your career, was it? no. you wanted to finish your extended tour, correct? i did. what did you want to do after that? did you know? i was not sure. there is nothing wrong with georgetown, it is a fine place, right? it is a wonderful place. but it is your only choice at the end of a distinguished career after all of that. it is not the end of a hallmark movie. it is the end of a really bad reality tv show. brought to you by someone who knows a lot about that. [laughter] why did you, you previously testified that you sought advice from ambassador sondland at this time about what to do, is that correct? i did. why did you reach out to the ambassador? because this was clearly so political, and was not going to be you know, the state department was not in a position, shall i say to manage the issue. it did not appear to me. and so, i asked ambassador sondland who said that he, you know, he was a political appointee. he said he was close to the president. and so, he had just been in ukraine for a ship visit with some of his e.u. colleagues from brussels, so i reached out to him for advice. when this was no longer a ukraine kind of interview with mr. lutsenko, kind of ukrainian, but became sort of the american politicians and pendants, et cetera were repeating those allegations, i asked him for advice. it meant a lot to you. this is an extraordinary time. and the advice meant a lot. and what was his advice? well, he suggested that i needed to go big or go home. and he said that the best thing to do would be to, you know, send out a tweet. praise the president, that sort of thing. and what was your reaction to that advice? well, my reaction was that i m sure he meant well, but it was not advice that i could really follow. it felt, it felt partisan. it felt political. and that was not something that i thought was in keeping with my role as ambassador and a foreign service officer. did he give you any specific suggestions on what to say about the president of the united states, or just say something nice about them? just to praise him. thank you. i yield the balance to the chairman. i want to follow up on the line of question, and also hearken back to something you were asked by the minority counsel earlier. asked a couple of questions. do you think you could have done more to push back against the smear campaign? and i m not suggesting this is what the council was getting at. but sometimes victims are asked, aren t you responsible for your own victimization, what would you say to people who say isn t it kind of your fault, ambassador that you did not fight your own smear harder? well, i think that, you know, i ve been a foreign service officer for a long time. and just like the military, we have our own culture. we have our own kind of chain of command, so to speak. and i did everything that i could to yeah, to address these issues and ask the state department to do what i felt was the right thing. which was support me. when it was important to do so. because it was also about supporting the policy. i think it was for others to stand up to me for me. i quite agree. thank you, since the chair man has gaveled out all of my colleagues with their unanimous consent. i am going to read for the record many of the chairman s comments in september of the importance of hearing from the whistle-blower. again, ambassador, thank you for your patience. thank you for your service, but since we have not been able to conduct ourselves in normal procedures, i m just going to use a 5 minutes for this. september 29th in the wall street journal the whistle-blower at the center of the impeachment instigation of president trump will testify very soon. usa today september 29th. talking with abc news, schiff said that the whistle-blower would testify very soon. the only thing standing in the way was getting security clearances for the attorneys representing the whistle-blower. from vox adam schiff said sunday the whistle-blower at the center of a growing scandal surrounding president donald trump will testify before the house intelligence committee very soon. on cnn, september 29th. schiff said on sunday as well as nbc s meet the press that he expects to testify very soon. the washington post, september 2,029th. schiff echoed pelosi s message to hear from the whistle-blower very soon, pending a security clearance, joseph maguire. in the huffington post, schiff told abc this week that he expects a whistle-blower to appear before the committee very soon. in the new york post we will get the unfiltered testimony of that whistle-blower. in the washington times that whistle-blower will be allowed to come in. these are all quotes from chairman adam schiff. in the memo, this was by george stephanopoulos, have you reached an agreement with the whistle-blower and his or her attorneys about coming before the committee yes, we have schiff responded, and promised during the hearing that the whistle-blower will be able to come in without the justice department to tell the whistle-blower what they can and cannot say. we will get the unfiltered testimony of that whistle-blower. in daily kos, we are ready to hear from the whistle-blower as soon as that is done, and we will keep riding shotgun to make sure that the acting director does not delay in that clearance process. in cnbc we will get the unfiltered testimony of the whistle-blower. market watch, adam schiff said that an agreement had been reached where the whistle-blower will testify before the committee very soon. i can keep going, but again, the chairman refused to allow us to put these into the record with unanimous consent. so i ve read those out, and as we know, it is important to protect whistle-blowers from retaliation and from firing. and we want to make sure that whistle-blowers are able to come forward, but in this case, the fact that we are getting criticized by chairman adam schiff for statements that he himself made early on in this process shows the duplicity and just the abuse of power that we are continuing to see with 1:54 seconds left i will yield. thank you for yielding, i will add that the chairman says that we get to see the transcripts, but there are four people that we have deposed that have not been able to see their transcripts, user transcripts, and relief and therefore, the testimony they provided were not able to use in these open hearings. if it is an open hearing, all of the available testimony from the deposition taken by the committee should be available to be discussed for the american people to see. but no, no, no, mr. morris and mr. hale, and a two other, miss williams and another one have not been released. i hope the chairman releases that. one other point i would make in the last minute of miss elise stefanik s time, releasing that the whole thing, ambassador yovanovitch wasn t some some sinister scheme by the white house, to get mr. zelensky to do an investigation. if we are calling ambassador yovanovitch a part of some scheme by trump and pompeo, and giuliani to get president zelensky to do an investigation, why would they replace her with the democrats first witness? their star witness, bill taylor? i mean, if that is the plan, not the best plan that i ve ever seen put together. their star witness, their first witness, mr. taylor is here wednesday. that s what they were up to? that just demonstrates that that is not what went on here. mr. zelensky never undertook any investigations. and the reason the aide was released as we discussed on wednesday was because vice president pence, and ambassador bolden, u.s. senators all talked with president zelensky and were convinced that he was the real deal as ambassador has alluded to in her testimony. that s why it was released. i yield back. mr. chairman, a lot has changed since the whistle-blower came forward. two things in particular. first, most of what the whistle-blower has alleged has been cooperated by the witnesses that we have heard from. second, the president who my colleagues so shamelessly continue to defend continue to pressure, threatening, and intimidate the whistle-blower. so i would like unanimous consent to put into the record a september 26, 2019 article from business insider trump suggested the whistle-blower who filed the complaint against him was treason, punishable by death. how about september 26, 2019, vanity fair, trump suggests executing the whistle-blower like in the good old days. third, september 29th, the whistle-blower lawyer raises fear for client safety. mr. chairman, the whistle-blower has an absolute right to anonymity. the whistle-blower s lawyer says he fears for his personal safety and will only answer question now in writing. i wish my colleagues would join me in protecting the whistle-blower s right to anonymity. but miss doral, we are here to talk about you and what you witnessed. and you saw a lot as a relates to mr. giuliani. i want to read a quote from you from mr. giuliani, but ask when you were in ukraine, you understood that rudy giuliani was donald trump s personal lawyer, is that right? yes, that is correct. are you familiar with rudy giuliani s quote in the new york times describing himself as a lawyer saying he basically knows what i am doing, sure, as his lawyer. were you familiar with that quote? it sounds familiar. and you have a lawyer with you today, ms. yovanovitch. and you understand that lawyers act on their client s behalf, is that right? yes. that it would be improper for a lawyer to go outside any directive that a client gives, is that correct? that is my understanding. are you familiar with a new york times story on may 29th, 2019 where rudy giuliani says that he intends to visit ukraine and says, we are not meddling in an election, we are meddling in an investigation? are you familiar with that quote? yes. that was 11 days before you were removed as investor, is that correct? yes. he is talking about on designs coming to ukraine, but what is interesting is that mr. giuliani said we re as in we are. he does not say i am not meddling in an election. not i am not meddling in investigation pete he says we. he is speaking for himself and his client. and i want to talk about that quote, we are not meddling in an election, we are meddling in an investigation. is it proper for you or anyone who acts on behalf of the united states government to meddle in an investigation? no, i do not believe so. why not? well, there are law-enforcement channels, and things need to be handled properly. and without any kind of political bias. now this anticorruption crusader, president trump, who my colleagues have touted out as having such a great interest in anticorruption, and both the calls referenced today. the august 21 call and the july 25 call, isn t it true that president trump never mentions the word corruption? yes, it is true. as regard to the foreign aid my colleagues says cannot be guilty, he did not completely achieved. the aide went to the ukrainians. isn t it true that the only reason the aide or they only time the aide went to the ukrainians was after the whistle-blower complaint became public? yes, it was after the whistle-blower complaint became public. so you don t really get points when you get your hand caught in the cookie jar and someone says, hate, he has his hand in the cookie jar, and then you take your hand out. which is essentially what to my republican colleagues and the president are trying to take credit for. finally, i want to put up the disgusting tweet from the president today. where he attacks your character, but i think i know who you are ambassador, i think the country knows who you are, he smeared you when you were in ukraine, and he smeared on that phone call with president zelensky on july 25, he is smearing you right now as you are testifying, ambassador yovanovitch, are the president s smear is going to stop you from fighting corruption? well, i will continue with my work. if your country asks again to fight corruption will you do that despite the smears? yes. thank you, i yield back. your excellency, 33 years i will move over here. 33 years, six senior foreign service awards. five state department superior honor awards. the presidential distinguished service award, and the secretaries diplomacy and human rights award. you re tough as nails, and you are smarter is hell. you are a great example of what are ambassador should be like. you are an honor to your family, and you are an honor to the foreign service. and you are an honor to this country. and i thank you for all that you have done and continue to do on behalf of your country. i am nervous about what i am getting ready to do. i want to do a five year history of ukraine in about 45 seconds. and as a professor, you can grade my paper. okay. valentine s day 2014, ukrainian people get fed up with the ukrainian president and basically overthrow him. he goes on the run. this was the revolution of dignity. who was the acting president during that time when he went out? i think it was church enough. excellent. in march of 2014, that is when we saw a little green men coming into ukraine and ultimately the russians invaded the ukraine, and not only, but try to annex crimea, but it s also trying to they invited an entire country as well. yes. than there wasn t a lecturer in and to the ukrainian president was in june of 2014, then you came to post in 2016 of august, is that correct? two years later. later. january 2017 trump was elected, and in december of 2017 is when the javelins were approved, right? and we saw those delivered in april 2019 to be put to use. then we had zelensky elected in 2019, april? correct? now as zelensky defeated the previous president poroschenko. no loss between those two dudes, is there? i don t think so. and then in may of 202019, zelensky is sworn in? yes. so my question we talk a lot about rudy giuliani, do we know what officials within the zelensky regime he actually met with? i know two, a gentleman by yermak who was a senior adviser. and we know of the former attorney general that we have already established here, was corrupt lutsenko. and he served under mr. zelensky for a couple of months. until august? that is correct. and their parliament voted him out, is that correct? yes, that is right. so if rudy giuliani is trying to influence the zelensky regime, what a guy that worked under the previous regime under pershing company, would he be the right guy to do it? are you saying mr. lutsenko? yes. did mr. lutsenko have much credibility within the zelensky regime? the current regime? i don t think so. he did not. and to do you know of any other ukrainians that mr. giuliani was meeting with that was part of the zelensky regime? just to her mind, i would have already left ukraine by that point. i m not aware. even with the administration to come. zelensky won the election, there was a two-month period of preparing to be installed in the president, even during that time, were you aware of any there is one of the oligarchs as we have heard about. one of the oligarchs is named, who met with mr. sherman and parnas to get a meeting with rudy giuliani. but those are not people in the zelensky regime? no. mr. chairman, i yield back. mr. castro. thank you chairman, think you ambassador for your 32 years of service to our nation. a big question here today is why you were pushed aside as ambassador, for example, americans know that an employer has a right to fire an employee, but they should not do it for certain reasons. you should not be fired because you are disabled, because you are a woman. , because you are black, and for other reasons. and most americans agree that a president should not recall in a basilar because ambassador standing in his way of doing a corrupt act. so i want to ask you, did the president ever tell you why he was recalling you? no. did anybody at the white house tell you why you were being recalled? no. did the president consult you about who the good guys and the bad guys were i in the ukraine? no. did secretary pompeo ever tell you why you were being recalled? no. and it appears in the testimony that we have heard in the intelligence committee so far that there was a group of the presidents men, perhaps secretary perry, rudy giuliani, ambassador sondland who were in on this game to help the president get the bite ins and burisma investigated. and i want to put aside president trump for just a second and ask you, and all of your years of service, have you ever come across a president, been asked for a president or known of colleagues who were asked by an american president to help that president get an american investigated overseas? i m not aware of that. and if a president asked you to investigate a former vice president for this purpose, what would you say? i mean, with what i know today, i would have said no. would you consider it an unlawful act? i don t know that it is unlawful, per se. but i think, again, that there are channels for conducting proper investigations. and that that would ve been the best way to handle something like this. but certainly, it is bizarre for a president to ask that some american be investigated? by another government? it is very unusual. and also, you mentioned that there is corruption in ukraine. ukraine is not the only country that confronts corruption. if the people in power in a country where corruption is rampant are being asked by a foreign leader, who has a lot of leverage over them to conduct an investigation, could that be dangerous, because they could trump up charges against someone if they wanted? they could. and i also want to ask you, i spoke to ambassador kent, he made a comment yesterday about selective prosecutions, and what it means going forward. what kind of precedent it sets. and you have spoken about a dangerous precedent for the state department and diplomats. but i want you to help us consider the president going forward, if there is no consequences for president trump or any president who does this, what are the consequences for this country and for any american? not just a former vice president or presidential candidate, or even somebody in politics, but a person in business who does business in saudi arabia, or some other country. if a president is going to speak to another head of state or some foreign official and tried to get that person investigated, what does that mean for the future of the country and for americans? well, i think that investigations, prosecutions, judicial decisions properly should remain with investigators, prosecutors, and the courts. and i think that, as i said before, i think senator vanderburg, when he said that politics needs to stop at the water s edge, he was right in that. i yield back to the chairman. thank you, chairman, and ambassador yovanovitch, i would like to join in all of my colleagues on both sides of the aisle in thanking you for your service. i would like to ask you about your earlier testimony about your senate confirmation and congresswoman stepanek had asked you how the obama-biden state department had prepared you to answer questions about burisma and hunter biden specifically, do you recall that? yes. she mentioned that you had been asked or prepared for questions about hunter biden s role on the board of burisma, but i don t think that you gave us the answer or answers that the obama-biden state department prepared you to give in response to that question. do you remember what those answers were? yeah. it was something along the lines of i would refer you to the vice president s office on that. so did they in the course of that brief you about the amount of money that hunter biden was ? no, this was not part of their briefing. i had big old books with questions that might come up. in preparation for your confirmation? and they thought that hunter biden s role at burisma might be significant enough that it would come up during your confirmation, is that correct? apparently so. there were hundreds of questions. well, hundreds of questions, but where there are hundreds of companies? how many companies other than burisma did the obama-biden state department prepare you to give answers for? if there were others, which on ones? i just don t recall. you don t recall that there were any other companies, is that correct? i m quite sure that there were some companies. but you know, this is a while ago. i don t recall. but you specifically recall burisma? yes. all right, out of thousands of companies in the ukraine, the only one that you recall the obama-biden state department preparing you to answer questions about was the one where the vice president son is on the board? is that fair? yes. you understood from deputy assistant secretary george kent s testimony as it has been related to that he testified a few days ago, you understand that that arrangement, hunter biden s role on the burisma board caused him enough concern that as he testified in his statement that in february of 2015, i raised my concern that hunter biden s status as a board member could create the perception of a conflict of the ukraine ukrainian policy as one of those factors. do you recall that? yes. do you agree with that? yeah. that it was a legitimate concern to raise? i think that it could raise the appearance of a conflict of interest. did you discuss that ever with mr. kent? i don t believe so. shortly before your confirmation august of 2016, prosecutor general shogun was fired by president poroschenko, correct? yes. general was the one who opened the investigation into burisma, correct? i think that is right, but i m not actually sure? he was in charge of it at the prosecutor general, are you aware of the very public statement by the vice president that that firing of the prosecutor general occurred in march of 2166 hours after the vice president told petrenko that he needed to fire at the prosecutor general or he would not receive $1 billion from the united states, do you beliee that? yes. do you think that that raises a potential concern or conflict of interest to that to the vice president of the united states was ordering the firing of the prosecutor in charge of a company that had been identified as one that was substantially corrupt? i actually don t. i don t think that the view that mr. viktor shokin was not a good prosecutor fighting corruption, that did not have anything to do with the burisma brief. the concern about hunter biden s role was legitimate, correct? it creates a concern that there could be an appearance based on your testimony, ambassador, i would like to renew my request, mr. chairmant- the time of the gentleman has been expired. it being legitimate rather than a sham you will suspend. your time is expired. i have a unanimous request. ambassador, i would like to thank you very much. add my voice to gratitude for your years of service. frankly, you re the best of this nation. and i cannot think of anybody else i would rather have representing us in a foreign capital then you. my colleagues have gone to a great deal of effort to better understand the facts surrounding your removal. i think the facts are pretty clear. it was a smear campaign. it was orchestrated by a corrupt ukrainian prosecutor. the president s attorney. the president son, and even some of the president s allies at his favorite tv station. so that campaign led to your removal, despite 33 years of outstanding service and responsibility and awards. so i kind of sit here with a mix of emotions, on the one hand, there is some pride and gratitude for all of your outstanding service, and on the other hand, i am angry. like my friend from connecticut. in fact, i am very angry. about how it is the most powerful person on the face of the earth would remove you from office after your stellar service, and somehow feel compelled to characterize you as bad news. and then to ominously threaten that you are going to go through some things. so i am angry. but i am not surprised. after all, as was suggested earlier, he said the whistle-blower may have committed treason, a crime punishable by death. even though the whistle-blower strictly adhered to the letter of the law as independently attested to by both the trump appointed inspector general and the acting dni. after all, he even demeaned the memory of senator mccain after he lied in his grave at the naval academy grounds despite a lifetime of public service and serving six years as a prisoner of war in a tiny cell being beaten and tortured every day. and after all, he belittled the gold star family whose son captain kahn gave his last full measure of devotion out of this country. and let me tell you, as somebody who s older brother never saw his 35th birthday because of service in the vietnam war, those words are deeply offensive. words matter. and the words leveled against you constitute bullying of the worst order. your good character, your outstanding reputation have been been besmirched in a way that is a void of common decency. but here is my message to you, there is nothing, ambassador yovanovitch, nothing he can do, not a thing that will in any way diminish the nature and quality of the service you have rendered to our great nation. not a thing. and there is not a thing he can say or do that will diminish our gratitude to you for that service. and i thank you again for it. thank you. so as to the larger point. i would like you to answer what does this mean to ukraine when the united states actually engages in the kind of behavior that we are attempting to discourage them from engaging in? namely a politically motivated prosecution? what does that mean to them in their struggling efforts to become a robust democracy? what is the impact in ukraine for this behavior? i think ukraine, like many countries looks to us for the power of our example. and i think that when we engage in questionable activities that raises a question. and it emboldens those who are corrupt who do not want to see ukraine become a democracy, a free market economy, a part of europe, but once ukraine to stay under russia s role. and that is not in our national security interests. thank you, ambassador yovanovitch. thank you so very much. i yield the balance of my time to the chair. i understand that the council would like to take a short break. let s take a five minute recess, if members of the audience could please remain in their seats to allow the witness or counsel to leave ahead of us, we will resume in a few minutes. we are in recess. we will take it over from there while they give us a five minute break at 2:35. this hearing started at 9:00 a.m. sharp, took a break for lunch, but going at it with the members of congress five minute each, and we had the 45 minutes of republican questioning from the lawyer that they have hired to do that, john castor. let s take it around the table. we still ever amazing panel, bret baier, chris wallace, we have ken mccarthy, and here with me here martha maccallum, and juan williams in new york. bret baier, can i turn to you first for any thoughts over how this afternoon has gone? well, slowly. the republican counsel at times, i think it was tough to follow where exactly he was going to try to land at some of those questions. there were some moments that he had from the witness from the ambassador that she was not a part of some of the decision-making. that she was removed, that she was not a first-hand witness to a lot of what has happened. some of the questioning from the congressman, especially devin nunes got that out a little bit more. what we have not seen as any questions about this. this is the rudy giuliani statement and letter paid any questions about the conspiracy that he talks about on 2016 that was happening inside the ukraine. any questions about george soros and his activities. any questions about her knowledge of any of that. that questioning has not happened. and that raises questions about giuliani statement and where it has gone from here. dana: chris wallace, do you have any thoughts why they would not bring that up? maybe it was too new, they were not able to check it? it is not new, because a lot of it is the basis for the whole campaign to giuliani involved than with other people to try to force out. and destroy the credibility of marie yovanovitch, so this has been out for a long time that she was somehow linked to george soros, that the ukraine embassy was linked to interference in the 2016 campaign. that she was personally bad mouthing president trump and telling people in ukraine, you don t have to pay attention to him, because he is going to be impeached anyway. and she flatly denied today under direct questioning from adam schiff and from his counsel danny goldman that she had done any of those things. and when we saw the giuliani memo that bret just pointed out, maybe there s something there, maybe she has not come clean about what she has done and the republicans will bring it up. they have stayed away from this with a 10-foot pole, and the only reason i have to think they have is because it is not new, they are not comfortable with it and they do not think it is credible. with all full credit to sherlock holmes, i would say that the story this afternoon has been the dog that did not bark. we expected a lot more pointed attacks by the republicans on the credibility of marie yovanovitch that maybe she was a bad actor. maybe there was a reason she was forced out. and the republicans really have not been able to make that case at all. dana: martha maccallum, we were here talking during the hearing that a lot of the members of congress are really trying to lay it on pretty thick about their appreciation for her 33 years of service. the democrats really pointing out that she has been treated very unfairly, she still has a job, and the republicans are saying shouldn t she be glad that she has a job and no harm came to her, but you talked earlier today about whether any of this so far this week has moved the needle, how do you feel at 2:38:00 p.m.? not so much. it does not feel that way when you watch what is playing out here. it feels like we are sort of going over ground that has been tried before, i did think that was an interesting moment from mr. quigley, congressman quigley who said after mike conaway had questioned her and basically sort of laid out a scenario where he said, you are fine, right? you have a job at georgetown, you came back. euro state department employee. sort of painting the picture that all of this egregious behavior has not really hurt you, now has it, and then the democrat mr. quigley said, boy, this is just like a hallmark movie. everything turned out great, you got a job at georgetown, right? which was an interesting moment, i thought as we watch all of this carry out this afternoon. but one of the things that continues to come up. and it is a very salient point, we expected some pushback based on what rudy giuliani has said. nobody has tried to nail her down. what about when you said this about president trump? or when you pushed back in this way against president trump? none of that. which definitely leaves a big question mark about whether or not there is anything there. republicans have been criticized for not addressing the substance of the allegations here, and focusing much more on the process. this would go right to the substance, and they are not going there. dana: juan, one of the things i did come up, mr. radcliffe, the congressman from texas brought us up, and a least a phonic did as well, that apparently there was sufficient concern in the obama administration that they provided a q&a guidance in case you were asked about hunter biden and being a part of buris, that at least that was a p.r. cn in the administration. that s right, a perception issue, dana, that was a legitimate point to raise the dead to no matter whether or not you can say that hunter biden vice president biden were ever found to have been guilty of any wrongdoing, there was a perception issue and was one that a democratic administration thought was sufficiently problematic that they were calling state department s attention to the issue. i think overall that might ve been the strongest point. but just to get back to what everybody else has said. i thought this afternoon was going to be a republican effort to make it clear that there were holes in what we were hearing from marie yovanovitch. but that has not occurred. in fact, her statement seemed to stand strong as we are here this afternoon. it has not been a good day, really, if you stop and think about it for the republican side with roger stone s conviction, and on seven counts. and that adds the idea that it s really now, you are wondering about the president s men. and here i am using worldly terminology, but where is mick mulvaney who could come in and say, here s what i know? he had a problematic press conference, where s john bolton? is he able to come up and give any support to the president s perspective? if the president was not involved. dana: both of them saying, we will go to andy mccarthy, both of those men that you mention, mick mulvaney coming on john bolton, the former national security adviser saying it will take a court to compel them to testify. that will not happen right away. but andy, i understand in washington, d.c., you also picked up on the point that there was a q&a that is sent around that is supposed to be guidance for the ambassador and her staff if they are ever asked about hunter brian? yes, and the interesting thing is they raise it so that it obviously shows that they are concerned about it, but she was also told her instructions were to put any questions to the vice president s office. and i think that is pretty typical too. you don t want to load people up with information if the position that you want to take in the hearing is that they don t have an information and you have to seek it from elsewhere. so it is not surprising that they raised it with her. it is also not surprising that she did not have a lot of information to impart about it. dana: what else did you think, andy, about the questioning today. we had john castor since we have had the break, asking questions for 45 minutes, what did you make of what he was trying to do? excuse me, on that note, we will go to president trump talking about this right now. let s go to him. president trump: people not allowed to ask questions. nobody has had such horrible due process. there was no due process. and i think it is considered a joke. all over washington and all over the world, the republicans are given no due process whatsoever. we are not allowed to do anything. it is a disgrace what is happening. but the american public understands it. that s why the poll numbers are so good. and that s why other things are so good. what they are doing in washington with that hearing, and by the way, it is a political process. it is not a legal process. if i have somebody saying i m allowed to speak up, if somebody says about me, we are not allowed to have any kind of representation. we are not allowed to have almost anything. and nobody has seen anything like it. in the history of our country there has never been a disgrace like what is going on right now. so you know what, i have the right to speak. i have freedom of speech just as other people do. but they have taken away the republicans rights. and i watched today as certain very talented people wanted to ask questions and they were not even allowed to ask questions. republicans. they were not allowed to ask questions. it is a very sad day. go ahead. reporter: sir, with your freedom, were you trying to intimidate ambassador yovanovitch? president trump: i just want total freedom of speech. that is a political process. the republicans have been treated very badly. i watched a little bit today. i was not able to yesterday because we had the president of turkey here. i watch some of it this morning. i thought it was a disgrace. when we have great republican representatives, people elected by the people, and they are not allowed to even ask a question. they are not allowed to make a statement, we are not allowed to have witnesses. we are not allowed to have legal counsel, white house counsel. that is a disgrace and an embarrassment to her nation. reporter: sir, do you believe president trump: quiet. quiet please. reporter: do you believe the words to be intimidating? president trump: i don t think so. i should not be, and last night it ended. spin on the president is talking in the roosevelt room, we will bring it back to the panel, andy mccarthy, i wanted to play something for you. he was referring to a least a phonic, the congresswoman who was trying to ask some questions and was shot down by the chairman, let s take a look and get your reaction. will determine continue to prohibit witnesses from asking questions as you have done in closed hearings and as you did when he interrupted our question. suspend. the gentleman will suspend. it is not recognized. chairman is not recognized. gentleman is not recognized. i want to respond. the gentleman is not recognized. it is out of order. the gentleman is not recognized. holy cow. dana: holy cow is what jim jordan said, andy, what are the rules? president trump said the republicans are getting no due process and are not allowed to ask questions, is the chairman following the rules? is that the way it is supposed to go? or does the president have a point? there are technical rules and what you re doing the circumstances, so i think it was a tactical error on schiff s part. he did not make many today, but this was a tactical error to interrupt congresswoman stepanek when she was asking these questions, because she would ask them at some point at any event. the four corners of the rules say that the majority, schiff and his counsel and devin nunes the ranking member and his counsel each get 45 minutes in tandem. the majority first and then the minority. and then the members get 5 minutes rounds unless schiff decides to have another 45 minute round. and technically speaking those 45 minutes rounds belong to the chair of the ranking member or the council that they have there, not the other members of the committee. to have relied on that for purposes of interrupting, if i were chairman schiff, i think i would ve just just let her do her thing dana: get that done. ken starr if i can bring you income of the republicans continued to hammer on the point of process, what about the substance as you hear it so far today? well, we have moved once again the focus from bribery to poor behavior, abuse of power, smear campaigns, so this clearly was in the nature of a political exercise today that probably drew some blood. when you hear without any rebuttal whatsoever that this was a smear campaign is going to resonate. and then you say, wait a second, are we going to remove the president of the united states from office because he engages in this kind of behavior, which he did again this very day. he attacks people. he attacked people during the 2016 campaign prayed he is an attack person. are we going to impeach and remove someone from that? this is impeachment in search of a solid rationale. dana: ken starr, thank you so much pride we have a great panel here at the fox news channel, we are going to see the chairman of the committee adam schiff getting ready to gavel back end. there he goes. we are back. you are recognized for 5 minutes. mr. ambassador, thank you for being here. thank you for your service to our country. should ambassadors try to interfere with host country elections? no. as you said in your opening statement, partisanship of this type is not in the as service officers, right? yes. that s what happened in august of 2016, he went to ukraine as our ambassador, the ukrainian ambassador here wrote an op-ed in the hill said this, trump s comments send wrong message. our ambassador to the ukraine rights that op-ed, and it was not just that attack as was getting into earlier. not just that attack on the president. we had the ukrainian prime minister, we had mr. yanukovych, earlier you said that mr. yanukovych was the individual that first alerted you to the efforts of giuliani. mr. yanukovych in the same period, prior to the 2016 election called then candidate trump all kinds of names. called him a terrorist, and of course you have mr. lutsenko, member of parliament who is a source for fusion gps, and now somewhat famous dossier that flowed from that work. he said this in the financial times, again in august of 2016 when he first arrived in ukraine. he said this the majority of ukrainians politicians are on hillary clinton side. several high-ranking officials in the government and the ukrainian government, and president poroschenko is president of ukraine criticizing president trump, then candidate trump all in the late summer and fall of 2016. what i want to know, ambassador, when this was all happening, did you talk to anyone in the ukraine government about this? did you go say to some of these officials, you guys need to knock this off. their perception, the majority of ukrainian officials on hillary clinton side, did you have that conversation? no. you did not talk to anybody in the government? president pershing company? no. you did not alert anyone in n the government? no. one of the things we have heard so much over the last six weeks in the depositions and in the hearings on wednesday is how much importance bipartisan support is for ukraine. democrats and republicans agree that we want to help ukraine. in fact the democrats first witness on wednesday, mr. taylor said ukraine s most important asset is this bipartisan support. you agree with that? i do. he said this in his testimony on wednesday, on september 11th, i learned that the hold had been lifted the next day. he said i conveyed this news to president zelensky, and not getting involved in other countries elections. what i am wondering is, this is the day after the aid has been lifted that ambassador taylor made the statement to the ukrainian government. and he makes this after there has been nothing done by ukraine to influence our election. because president zelensky did not announce he was doing an investigation and the aide was lifted. but he felt he needed to say that. but in 2016 when we know that the majority of ukrainian officials want clinton to win it, because it was said by a member of parliament when the ambassador to the united states from the ukraine writes an op-ed criticizing then candidate trump, when mr. yanukovych calls president trump all kinds of names, nobody goes and talks to them and tells them to knock it off. did you have any conversations coming ambassador, with victoria nuland? or secretary of state perry about what was going on in 2016 and the ukrainian politicians being for candidate clinton and not and opposed to president trump? no, i did not. no one did anything? no one did anything? you see why maybe the president was a little concerned? about what went on in ukraine, and you couple that with the corruption level that we know exists in the ukraine. you add to that this idea that he is not a big fan of foreign aid, why he might be a little bit concerned about sending the hard earned tax dollars of the american people to the ukraine? i m sorry, was there a question there? there was. could you repeat it, please? i am asking the time has expired, but i will allow you to repeat the question. maybe we can kind of see why the president was a little concerned when you have the highest ranking officials in the government. members lutsenko requesting it, when you have yanukovych criticizing. all of this going on, and then a couple that with the concerns of corruption and you re not doing enough, the concerns about the reluctance to get hard earned tax dollars i have indulged you with extra time, but the indulgence is running out. i appreciate it. our indulgence ran out for you a long time ago. i m about to gavel you down. i m asking her if there was a reason that president trump s concern was justified? you know, i cannot speak for the president on this. but what i would say is you listed a number of actions, i think from my point of view, that does not, that does not create a ukrainian government strategy to interfere in our election. please allow the ambassador to answer the question. i would just say that u.s. politicians will often set aside policies of foreign counterparts, even perhaps during their election. this happens in politics, and i think that it does not necessarily constitute interference. would you ever right an op-ed jordan, your time is expired. mr. welch, you are recognized. thank you, mr. chairman. i would like dul like everybody here i am thank you for your service, like your colleagues you do not complain. you are doing your job. i feel badly about the insults, the tweet this morning, the fact that you were smeared, not fir fired. but the question as you know is not how you were treated, the question is why the president did what he did and whether what he did was a breach of trust. the question really is about whether the president of the united states, any president has the authority to withhold congressionally approved aid to condition a white house meeting on extracting from a foreign leader a willingness to assist him in his political campaign. that is the question. and that brings us to you as part of the story. because the question is, why were you fired? from that position? i want to read a portion of the president s call on july 25th with president zelensky. this is the painful part 21st heard about it. the former ambassador from the united states, the woman was bad news. and the people she was dealing with in the ukraine were bad news. so i just want to let you know that, the other thing he goes right into this. there is a lot of talk about biden s son that he stop the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that, so whatever you can do with the attorney general would be great. you indicated in response to my colleague mr. castor s question that if you were asked to approach a foreign leader in condition american support on their being involved in our campaign that you would refuse to do that. yes. you are aware now, but i don t know if you were aware then, but that july 25th occurrence happened after director mueller directed that the interference was not from ukraine, it was acted concerted energetic and by the russians. correct? yes. now as ambassador, you had no knowledge of whatever it is president trump ultimately seems to have wanted to get for cooperation in this investigation, that is correct? yes. you have been asked about whether a president has authority to replace and ambassador, and you have agreed that that is the president s prerogative. yes, that is true. but assumes that the reasons are not related to the personal private political interest at the interest of the national security, right? yes. you have been the target of insults from the president. you join some very distinguished company, by the way. senator mccain, general kelly, man i admire. i think all of us do, general general mattis. we are not here to talk about that unless the reason you get insulted as you did today. essentially blaming you for