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with kentrell we did decide that at this time in the best interest of the community and for himself that he be placed in a residential treatment facility. >> with respect to kenneth, tell us about your recommendations. >> we also agree that had he needs residential placement to meet his needs. >> you're not recommending that they go home with their mother? >> not at this time. >> that's all i have, judge. >> all right. >> i have no further questions. >> did you want to speak or no? >> i can't. >> umt to try? i can ask you the questions very simply. judge, i call their mother very briefly just for a couple quick questions. now, you understand that there's a recommendation that both of your sons be placed in a
like, what they going to say, what they going to do to you, if they going to detain you or if they going to release you. i can't be doing this. i'm 18 years old. i've got a lot of years to live. and if i keep messing around with this i'm going to end up dead or in jail. >> i know, kenneth, that you want to leave. i would like to give you a break here. in light of this is your sixth referral to this court, four in the year of 2008. as sunday morning breaks
my problem with kenneth is that he's committed numerous acts of delinquency. that's what indiana boy school is meant to address. then you factor in that he's had counseling provided to him, and he hasn't been terribly amin bl to the counseling. he has a track record and the track record isn't very good at this point. you know, it's a serious matter for this court to decide that it's going to invest itself in a child to the extent that this county and this court is being asked to invest themselves in kenneth and i don't see that there's going to be a lot of banb for our buck, to be perfectly honest. i think he's a dangerous person. i think he should be committed to indiana boy school. >> well, i would agree that i think indiana boy school can address a lot of the issues that kenneth is facing. i know this much, if he were in the adult system, he would not be able to receive the treatment
>> i'm the oldest girl, yes. >> is there a dad in the picture? >> he was until about four months ago. he was incarcerated. kenneth is the one who's really been the man of the house. he's really our backbone. >> that's all i have? >> ma'am? >> no questions, judge. >> ken, we spoke yesterday about what the court is here today to decide. that is whether you should stay detained or whether you should be released. >> i should be released because i know i ain't a bad kid. i ain't no harm to nobody. i just made a bad decision at that moment. i know i did something wrong. but i know i can fix it. now i know that life is serious, and life more is about me being at home and being with my family than being locked up. >> kenneth, how many times have you been on probation with this court? >> twice. >> are you on probation right now? >> yes. >> is getting involved in criminal acts a violation of
please. he said, i'll straighten up, mom, please. and i wouldn't let him. i said no. i can't do that. i can't let you in the house. and then i find out he was shot. >> so on this monday the judge has found it's in the best interest for the brothers kenneth and kentrell to remain detained until their next court hearing. will devon's mother's pleas and his age be enough to convince the judge it's time for him to come home? >> he's on the verge of doing something really horrible in his life and taking him away from you forever or on the verge of being able to turn that corner.
no longer be detained while the case pends. >> the decision is not an easy one for the judge. and answers won't come overnight. services need to be ordered. placement options explored and ultimately she must decide if it's in everyone's best interest to send the boys home while all this is in motion. >> well today, of course, the court will order that both boys have a psychological evaluation. i know, kenneth, that you want to leave. i read the letter you wrote to this court about your girlfriend having a baby soon. i'm certain that you would like to be there, as you told me in your letter. i would like to give you a break here, but in light of this is your sixth referral to this court, four in the year of 2008, the court's going to order you remain detained pending your next hearing in that you may be a danger to yourself or the community. as it related to kentrell the court is also going to order he be detained. pending his fourth hearing. this is his fourth referral to the court. and these are serious charges.
wrong things. i've been trying to teach them, but they goes out in the streets and they listen to their friends and get in trouble. but i want them to come home. because their brothers and sisters miss them, too. >> anything else you would like to say? >> no. >> what are you going to do differently? he's had four referrals to the juvenile court this year, alone. >> i'm going to take control over them. >> how are you going to do that? >> i'm going to be a harder parent. >> so you don't have any plan of action for it to change? you just think it's going to change? >> no, i know it's going to change. >> well, what is the plan in action? >> i'm going to put my foot down. >> so you didn't before? you just let them do what they wanted to do before? >> no, i didn't pretty much let them do anything they want to do. >> okay. >> i tell them to do the right things, but they take it upon themselves to do what they want to do when they're outside my house. but when they're in my house they do what i tell them to do. >> so kenneth defies you?
like, what they going to say, what they going to do to you. >> luckily for 17-year-old kenneth and his 14-year-old brother kentrell, who is also here at lake county juvenile, they are not alone in their desire to be released and sent home. attorney don ruck represents children in court. >> the perception or misperception of juvenile court is it's similar to the adult court. the reality is the system is much more concerned about getting kids rehabilitated and giving them an opportunity to not having this happen again as opposed to just locking somebody up. one of the challenges that we're going to have is convincing the court and the judge, in particular, that despite you having been here before and lot learned your lesson that you're going to learn your lesson this time and not get into trouble again. kentrell, help me understand some of the things going on in your life that help demonstrate that. >> i'm playing ball. >> where do you play ball at? >> at the court. >> and tell me a little bit about that.
probation? >> yes, ma'am. >> i have no further questions, judge. >> as related to kentrell, this is his fourth criminal delinquency. presently he has an attempted robbery. that would be a "b" felony if he were an adult. criminal recklessness, that would be a "d" felon. attempted robbery in it was "b" felony tells me either a weapon was used or a victim was seriously injured. this is kenneth's sixth delinquency referral. i ask they both remain detained as serious danger to this community. >> judge, the preference in any case like this when children are being detained that rather than stay locked up that go home. i would suggest that the court to release them home. it may not be the home that we all think is the best environment, but it's their home.
and the rehabilitation and the services that the juvenile court is designed to provide to children like kenneth and like kentrell. the state and the taxpayers are going to pay whether we send them to the department of correction or we send them to placement. maybe we won't get the bang for the buck as you've described it, but i'm going to still put my faith in the juvenile court system in that i think we can do and do a better job with kids than the adult system can do, and going to jail is going to do for him. i would love nothing more than to send both boys to you home. i think you as a mom, why you're crying your heart out back there, knows that's not the right thing right now. kenneth is on the verge. he's on the verge of doing something either really horrible in his life and taking him away from you forever or he's on the verge of maybe being able to