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requested anonymity. >> there was a birthday card sent into the facility through the mail. the birthday card was tampered with. there was actually four bags of heroin in between the two birthday cards. the birthday card had the "e" number of your roommate. so can you make a statement on what your involvement is with this or -- >> i have no involvement at all with that. at all. only involvement i can see me having is being his celly. >> are you aware of him doing this? >> i was not aware of anything like that. >> so you had no involvement with this at all? >> at all. >> you can step back out. i'll come see you in a few moments and let you know our decision. okay? >> yes. >> now the panel will hear from nick battaglia. >> there was a birthday card mailed in that had four bags of white powdery substance, possibly heroin. now is your chance to make a statement here. >> my name was on the card, so obviously i'm a prime suspect. i'm not saying i'm not. i mean, i look -- i look guilty
life plea bargain, and that day just changed my whole life. celly! >> i know you like that. >> you've got to have the hot sauce. this is the best part of the day. coming home to a hot cooked meal. can't beat it. >> i was scared to come to prison. go do a life sentence in prison with adult men, that has its own fear on its own just knowing that you're going to do a life sentence with a bunch of adult men, but you're still a kid. >> so now we got to eat together. >> from a 15-year-old kid, i'm 24 now, almost 25. i'm absolutely nowhere near that person anymore. coming up on "lockup: extended stay" -- >> this is a very important tool for us. that's how easy it would show up. and it picks up the smallest things. >> even the laundry isn't exempt from random searches. imu emu & doug ♪
i'm actually kind of lucky in a sense because i don't have a celly. i can't have a celly. i've had in-cell violence. i had incidents inside my cell with me and the person i'm living with. i stabbed one of my cellies 36 times and another one i cut his throat. and i just hold this, and that's how i do that. i pick up everything off the floor and wet myself and i get in here naked and i just put the soap all over, wash all over. it's a small stream of water. that's my shower. it isn't a big shower, but it is a shower. that's my shower. it isn't a good shower, but it works. i have to improvise. >> not only are birdbaths a nuisance, but they also pose a safety risk as officers and inmates can easily slip on the tier. >> four tier. >> four, four, now.
correctional workers were a sweep. and that he hadn't been checked on for 5 hours, 6 hours. on the other hand, they are saying his cellmate was just removed. if they remove his celly they would have had to open the door and seen epstein in there. you can't have it both ways. heather: you actually predicted this on facebook, that jeffrey epstein would die in jail. what do you think happens? >> i believe somebody got a big paycheck out of this and if they didn't, they are a special kind of stupid to take a big risk like this and they probably got to the psychologist. this is all speculation but i believe they got to a psychologist, whoever it was, they knew they were going to
paycheck out of this. but somebody planted something in his cell and he had the motive and he had the means to kill himself. there is a big problem with the news media actually, like what you said or somebody else said, that just before he was found dead they moved his celly outs, that's what you call a somite. he moved his celly out before he was alive. which means it wasn't several hours that he was last so you see how the time frame doesn't match? >> martha: as you point out there's been a lot of conspiracy theories and the two presidents that you just mentioned actually when you go through this documents do not come off as having been involved in this activity. the investigation as you say is ongoing work on to talk about it more in just a minute. one of the things i read before he came out, he say he strung
you're stuck in a cell, in a small cell with a celly. i haven't had a cellie in 20 years, so it's hard learning cell etiquette. i don't know cell etiquette. i'm a fish out of water. >> he still hasn't learned yet. he's kind of off. they should have gave him medical attention before they brought him in the cell. mental attention. >> mental attention. >> yeah. dude has issues still. >> yeah, got issues. you spend 20 years on death row, you're going to have some issues. >> yeah, he has big issues. >> i was lucky, i was very lucky and they put me in a cell with a older black gentleman who's been around, and he's -- you know, he's open to teaching me. so he's teaching me about cell etiquette and prison etiquette again because i don't know about prison et quit any no longer. i only know about death row etiquette which is different from main line etiquette. >> here's what we do all day, me and joe joe. we sit here, he say the stupidest thing that pop in his mind and we play cards. that what we do all day every
but i'm his celly, so i get in there. >> i was a northerner. i was a member of the northern california gang member. to be honest, i just wanted to be a gang member, to be honest. and at that time i thought, okay, i'm going to represent the neighborhood and this and this and that. you know, no enemy is going to come step foot on our territory. but i mean, at the same time it was also just for looks when i was in school because girls like gangsters. you know what i mean? they don't like little square boys. do you know what i mean? they like gangsters. so that was part of the reason why i did too because, you know, i got a lot of attention for it. and i loved it. i'm not going to lie. i loved it. i mean, to be honest, if i could take the time back, go back, i wouldn't be here. >> unlike his cellmate, george, phillip still questions his decision to drop out. one month ago, he told us why he left the gang. >> my home boys like the northerners, they gave me some contraband to hold for the
remains safe. this ex-gang member is currently in ad seg for threatening a cellmate, but he wants to be returned to sny. >> there was a battery that was in 2005, the current charge, though, is of threatening another inmate. >> he doesn't want to be housed with inmates who have sex-related offenses, whether it be against women or children or such. even though he's kind of in the same boats because now he's also requesting protective custody, he has to be safeguarded from the rest of the general population. realistically, whether he is a gang dropout or has sex crimes, as far as the general population goes, it doesn't really matter. but he still wants to have that mentality that he is actually a little bit better than a particular inmate in the prison setting. >> did you have a problem going back out to that particular housing unit? >> you know what -- >> refusing a celly? >> i mean, just -- like i said, i was out there. never got in any trouble while i was out there. me personally, right, it's like
firing james comey or whether there was a bunch of plotters behind some kind of coup. >> they're saying he never pursued it, he never advocated for it, he never had reason to think he could invoke it. all to say none of the discussions really matter, what really mattered is that he never actually wore a wire. what really mattered is they weren't calling up general celly to see if they could get him on board here. that's their pivot because that's their one place go. but the larger issue that greg and josh are speaking to, there was an atmosphere described not only by mccabe but we've seen from the former general counsel of the fbi describing how officials at the top level were concerned that the president was doing things that seemed to benefit russia. and they didn't know whether it was completely innocent. baker says it could have been
he's good at cooking his celly is really good at cooking. we get together. have a slam. big nacho slam, make a cake. you know, we say a celebration. i say it's basically to realize we just wasted another month in here. it's something to look forward to. >> who makes the cake? >> kamikaze, my buddy kamikaze, he makes the cake. >> patrick "kamikaze" gaskill, who is serving 30 years for dealing methamphetamine is no ordinary cook. among wabash inmates, he's a culinary genius. turning commissary snack food into something special. but during a prior prison term he learned to be a different sort of cook. >> i went around to other people that were in prison for cooking meth, and got a recipe from this guy, got a recipe from this guy and figured out that was going to be my new thing. instead of stealing cars wasn't working.