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second person that was at least witnessed, that there was a second person who may have helped the shooter cut through a fence and get into the festival area itself. what we don't know or what we've not heard confirmed is that a second individual actually took part in the shooting, much less do we have confirmation that there was a second person. so, that's vague just like the number of injured right now is vague. hopefully by tomorrow that number as far as was there a second individual involved or not, as you and i talked earlier, they ought to be able to come up with some type of accomplice for the shooter, somebody who was close enough to him who might have participated in this. that would be their presidentsu. that would be who they're trying to find tonight. >> as you and i were talking about not too long ago here, clint, when we were looking at that video of the body of water,
as how the shooter was going to get in as well as the shooting itself. >> cedric alexander, thank you for being with us. clint van sant, thank you for being with us. stand by. we're going to take a short break. on the other side of the break, we're going to look into what is this second potential suspect and what is that role. and based on what the chief of police was telling the press and those concerned in the community what does that mean for the community of gilroy, california right now in this question of what was the role of this second suspect, this second person that we did not necessarily have a lot of detail on. we'll go back to gilroy, california in just a little bit covering the breaking news at the moment. 15, at least 15 people injured, 4 fatalities, including the suspect. the suspect. ce. so sports clothes sit around growing odors. that's why we graduated to tide pods sport. finally something more powerful than the funk.
receive those injured in this incident in this mass shooting in gilroy, california. that may mean based on the numbers in front of us, it could mean that the people injured, we could see that go up. this is early. and as clint van sant who is still with us, we know these numbers will change. with e know what a full day -- when we see daylight for the first time how things can all of a sudden solidify and level off. but it's still early yet. and we're still using the word here, clint, of "active scene." they are still looking for and looking into this second suspect. and as i was mentioning earlier, the chief of police didn't have a lot of information. you can see -- you can hear and see his unsurety about what this second potential suspect was, clint. >> he really did, richard. it was hard to tell. he was suggesting there was a
all we know right now is the police description of someone firing random like in a circle at which time the officer engaged him and stopped him. >> well, look, in the minute you got here, clint, if you had to profile based on the information we have, what would your recommendation be if you were to try to assist this group of law enforcement agencies? >> it's somebody in the local area. it's someone they're going to find who has knowledge of this. should there be a second person, it's going to be two people who are very close to each other who would engage in something like this. it's likely somebody probably between their early 20s and early 30s, likely going to be a white male. and they will be able to come up with information on the internet, on letters, on emails, on telephone calls the shooter made that if there is a second person, they will be able to
messages, some sometime of close relative. they will be looking to identify the vehicle. see whose vehicle that might have been. theergency right now is to determine if there was a second person involved. what role did that person play, and are they another potential shooter that could endanger the community that is why law enforcement will move quickly on this tonight. >> clint, we know, it is dark in california at the moment. we see the scene of the active investigation of lights in the woods, there is a lot of ground to cover, 51 acres of a festival. we did hear the witness accounts of people running through tree, upon hoing over fence, trying to get out. the perimeters, they are not secure.
there were and there were active s.w.a.t and heavy vehicles traveling past this command post, searching the area. there's rumbles on social media that somebody might be running around. but officially all we know is that they're not calling it over yet as you heard. >> right. >> reporter: and the way the guy came in, even though there was security and there were police who took him out -- >> steven, are you still there? steven week, our nbc news producer on the ground there clearly is monitoring the press briefing for us right there in front of those microphones. he hopped on the phone very quickly for us to give us the details. looks like we may have lost connection with him right now. we'll get back to him. he was at the reunification point which is ten minutes from the crime scene itself. that's where they were giving the press briefing. clint van sant was with us
listening to the details coming from the chief of police. what stood out to you clint? >> obviously the chief was very circumspect. he wasn't going to give out more information than he could confirm which is of course his job. he does tell us that there are 15 injured, that there are four dead to include what is believed to be the shooter. it was fatherly amazing that local law enforcement, the local community, approximat community pd was able to engage the shooter right away. >> he said within minutes, clint. >> yeah, within minutes. i heard one witness earlier today describe a series of a semiautomatic rifle and a hand gun going off, two different weapons. that would account for the subject shating and the police officer shooting. i think what most people are concerned with now is the potential for a second shooter to be out there or someone who gave aide and assistance.
briefing that he may have known these very individuals. one of the things that did come out when i look at this, clint, was because you and i were talking earlier in the evening about how three sides, at least according to the map, that this park where this festival is held every year is open to rolling hills. and one of those locations earlier we were watching it on air from a chopper cam was a creek or a little river. and you heard the chief of police say that at this location they found evidence of cutting through one of the fence, right? and that this suspect entered through that and began shooting. just another element of could you prepare for that and how tough it is to create a security
clint van sant, a horoing being of this poor father losing his son. many witness accounts, about people, you know, hearing the gunshots, running off into other areas to escape this. what are police looking for? obviously, another suspect. they cut through the fence to come to this festival. over a hundred vendors, the end of three days of the festival. cut through a fence to come to this. slightly premeditated. they are trying to figure out y what the random shooting would have been. what are you putting together from all the accounts you heard tonight? >> as you suggested, as the police chief told us in the
going to take an act like this and put the time into it to gather intelligence, to gather the tools, to gather the weapons to carry this out. this was a planned event. >> you know, clint, you're an fbi profiler. you've been on air with me now for better part of three hours. we have never asked the question why or motive yet. we've had so little information. there's not even a bit for you to even consider as to what that theory might be. >> what we have, richard, is what the police chief suggested, that it appears that the shooter was shooting at random. now, we know that the police response was so fast. i think you were told it was within a minute that an officer engaged that shooter and shot him and killed him, put him down, that perhaps this mass shooter had a target and he wasn't even able to get to where that target is. we don't know yet.