louis bergdorf. russia s ambassador to the united states says that moscow that they re ready to discuss a new meeting a this fall at the white house. press secretary sarah huckabee sanders tweeted out, in helsinki, president trump agreed to ongoing working level dialogue between the two security council staffs. and that president trump asked national security advisor john bolton to invite president vladimir putin to washington this fall, concluding those discussions are already underway. well, senior administration official said that the invite from bolton went out to putin yesterday and that the news blindsided the president s intelligence director dan coates, who coincidentally was in the middle of an interview with our very own andrea mitchell. watch this. we have some breaking news. the white house has announced on twitter that vladimir putin is coming to the white house in the fall. say that again. vladimir putin coming to did i hear you? yeah, yeah. okay on. yeah. that s going to be special. the white house announcement that andrea referenced earlier said putin was invited to washington this fall. were you aware of that? i just want to clarify i think based on my reaction i wasn t aware of that. okay. given that, what do you think the agenda should be for that meeting? oh, goodness. you know, first of all they re not going to ask me what the agenda is. we will be looking at what the potential intelligence risk could possibly be and we will make that information known to the president, and we ll provide him with whatever information we can gather relative to what might be on putin s mind or what they might want to achieve. would you recommend that there not be a one-on-one without note takers. ? if i were asked that question i would look for a different way of doing it. all right. according to the washington post there s worry in the west wing that coates reaction will get under the president s skin. the post reports inside the white house trump s advisers were in an uproar over coates interview, noting at moments he appeared to be laughing at the president and playing to the audience in an intellectual elite m elite manner sure to annoy the president. the post goes on to say that white house aides are worried trump will interpret the comments of coates as a personal betrayal since they came so soon after the president praised his intelligence director and the walkback of his comments in helsinki. in a week of cleanups and reversals the white house is rejecting russian president vladimir putin s offer to allow u.s. investigators to question 12 russians indicted for russian meddling in exchange for the u.s. allowing moscow to question american officials, including u.s. ambassador to russia michael mcfaul. sarah huckabee sanders put out a statement yesterday saying, it is a proposal that was made in sincerity by president putin, but president trump disagrees with it. hopefully president putin will have the 12 identified russians come to the united states to prove their innocence or guilt. initially president trump called the offer, quote, incredible. sanders said the white house was considering the proposal. we would expect that the americans would reciprocate and they would question officials, including the officers of law enforcement and intelligence service of the united states whom we believe are who have something to do with illegal actions on the territory of russia. what he did is an incredible offer. he offered to have the people working on the case come and work with their investigators with respect to the 12 people. i think that s an incredible offer. the president s going to meet with his team and we ll let you know when we have an announcement on that. reporter: for a second, is that a topic that came up in their conversation? did president putin raise this with president trump? there was some conversation about it, but there wasn t a commitment made on behalf of the united states, and the president will work with his team and we ll let you know if there s an announcement on that front. now, the white house announced its opposition to putin s offer moments before lawmakers took action yesterday. the senate unanimously approved a non-binding resolution offered by chuck schumer that said the u.s. should refuse to make any diplomat available to russian investigators who say the official may have interfered in their country s domestic affairs. in response to that senate vote, michael mcfaul tweeted 98-0. bipartisanship is not dead yet in the u.s. senate. thank you all for your support. in an interview with cnbc president trump is vowing if his dealings with russian president don t work out, he will be the worst enemy putin has ever had. take a listen. i have been far tougher on russia than any president in many, many years. maybe ever. look at the sanctions i ve put on. look at the diplomats i threw out. look at all of the things that i ve done. nobody else did what i did. obama didn t do it. obama was a patsy for russia. he was a total patsy. getting along with president putin, getting along with russia is a positive, not a negative. now, with that being said, if that doesn t work out i will be the worst enemy he has ever had. the worst he has ever had. so president trump also had this to say on twitter yesterday, writing out, quote, the summit with russia was a great success except with the real enemy of the people, the fake news media. i look forward to our second meeting so that we can start implementing some of the many things discussed, including stopping terrorism, security for israel, nuclear proliferation, cyberattacks, trailed, ukraine, middle east peace, north korea and more. there are many answers. some easy, some hard, to these problems, but all can be solved. over the last year there have been various reports about senior trump administration officials coming to the brink of resigning their positions. three top presidential appointees, fbi director, homeland security security and national intelligence director all avoided directly answering that question. there also have been stories that you threatened the resign? have you ever hit a point on that issue of sources and methods or anywhere elsewhere you said this is a line? you know, i m a as i said, i m a low key, understated guy, but that should not be mistaken for what my spine is made out of. so you have i ll just leave it at that. okay. all right. did you ever consider resigning in the time you have worked as the i will continue to work as hard as i can as long as i can support the men and women of dhs. did you ever consider it? you know, i think that the suggestions when i ve heard those suggestions, they re in situations i would never consider resigning. have there been moments such as those suggested by christopher wray in his interview with lester hot whelte you even considered resigning? that s a place i don t really go to publicly. i mean every you know, i tried to retire twice. not very successfully. not successfully, i failed both times. but, look, you ask yourself, why did you agree to do this in the first place? what is your intent? and what is your responsibility? and i look at those measures in term of making decisions as to how long i would like to be in this business. are there days when you think, well, what am i doing? yeah, but there s a lot more days saying, you know, the mission here is critical, and to be able to be a part of it, to be able to feel like you re giving something back to your country, it is a reward. senior official at microsoft says candidates in the 2018 midterms have come under attack from abroad. earlier this year we did discover that a fake microsoft domain had been established as the landing page for phishing attacks and we saw meta data that suggested they were directed at three candidates all standing for election in the midterm elections. in this year s election, 2018, phishing attacks against yeah, against the staff of three candidates for election. can you tell us who they are? we can t disclose that information because we maintain our customer s privacy so i won t go there. i can tell you they are all people because of their positions might have been interesting targets from an espionage standpoint as well as an election disruption standpoint. microsoft vp tom burt went on to say the attack was unsuccessful and buzzfeed reports an analyst traced them to a group widely accepted to be run by russia s military intelligence agency. this as the house voted down an effort to increase security funding, leading to a raucous hearing on the floor lead by steny hoyer. we have sworn an oath. the gentleman s time has expired. against all enemies foreign and domestic. the gentleman s time has expired. you have the opportunity to do that today! do so! vote yes on this amendment for your country! [ chanting: usa, usa, usa ]. joining us from washington, d.c., capitol hill reporter for the hill molly hooper. great to have you with us. a lot of drama on the floor of the u.s. congress. before we get to that let s talk about the white house invitation to vladimir putin blindsiding a lot of people. it is one thing for dan coates to not necessarily know the specifics of when the invitation will go out, even the timing of it, but he didn t even seem to know that vladimir putin was going to be invited to the white house at all. what does that tell you about the way this white house is operating? reporter: well, i will tell you what congress is saying about with it. essentially, senator mitch mcconnell s spokesperson told the hill that vladimir putin won t be welcome in congress. they re not going to have a joint address to congress like they did when emmanuel macron was here earlier this year. normally when foreign officials come over and are visiting, meeting with the president and what not, they will go to the house, they will go to the senate. they will make the rounds, talking with the speaker of the house, the leader. it sounds like that s not that s nyet so to speak. i know it is early, but that won t happen for vladimir putin. when i was asking lawmakers about the possibility yesterday, the question was met with similar dismay and sort of the same kind of response that dan coates had. just sort of kind of laughter of dismay. i don t think that that s and knowing and having covered dan coates and seeing his reaction, dan coates is very much he s very respected up on capitol hill, especially among his former colleagues in the senate. he s one of those one of those individuals who never really tried to grandstand. it wasn t out there being flashy and flowing i mean throwing verbal bombs across the aisle. he really wasn t. he wasn t seen as a huge partisan. and he so for him to be making these comments and coming out and countering what the white house is saying is very telling. i think that if there is is some sort of effort to try to move him out, he would have a lot of support on capitol hill, and support from steny. let s talk about that and break it down. obviously this has been a very interesting week in terms of the relationship between dan coates and the white house. there have been statements coming out after the helsinki meeting, yesterday s comments some are interpreting to be a swipe at the white house according to the washington post , president trump possibly taking it personally. what does it tell you about the divisions between trump and his advisers on the handling of russia and vladimir putin? well, see, that s the big question. i think that s something that members up on capitol hill at least are very concerned about. they don t know. when we are talking to bob corker who is the current head of the foreign relations committee in the senate, he just is kind of throwing up his arms. he s saying, we don t know what the strategy is. he said that it is reminiscent of the strategy that the administration is carrying out on trade and tariffs. he says, corker says there is no strategy. they don t know what the end game is. when dealing with somebody like vladimir putin and the russians, who did try they actively tried to interfere with the u.s. elections and are continuing to try to interfere in the digital infrastructure of this country, per dan coates, that s a problem. so here is where you are going to find a lot of pushback from members of his own party, more so on this issue than anything we have seen before. indeed it is. molly hooper, thank you very much. we will touch base with you in a little bit. excellent. switching gears for a moment from politics to a tragedy overnight, at least 11 were killed can, 7 injured and five remain missing after a tourist duck boat capsized on a missouri lake late last night? it happened around 7:00 p.m. central time during a severe storm on table rock lake near branson. winds blew as fast as 60 miles per hour through the area. search diving operations continue this morning. still ahead, president trump makes waves with his comments about the economy. he publicly disagreed with the fed chair raising rates, even though presidents typically stay out of those independent financial decisions. and it has been almost a year since the deadly protest in charlottesville, virginia. what the department of homeland security chief is and is not saying about it. those stories and a check on weather when we come right back. from the very beginning . it was always our singular focus. to do whatever it takes, use every possible resource. to fight cancer. and never lose sight of the patients we re fighting for. our cancer treatment specialists share the same vision. experts from all over the world, working closely together to deliver truly personalized cancer care. and these are the specialists we re proud to call our own. expert medicine works here. learn more 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charges including one for a hate crime and another for violence based on race. he could face the death penalty if convicted. and president trump voiced his frustration with the federal reserve, telling cnbc he hoped the central bank would stop raising interest rates. i ve heard a very good man in the fed. i don t necessarily agree with it because he is raising interest rates. i have to tell you, it puts us at a disadvantage. i m saying the same thing i would have said as a private citizen. somebody would say, oh, you shouldn t say it as a president. i couldn t care less what they say because my views have not changed. i don t like all of the work we re putting into the economy and i see rates going up. the critique broke with a 25-year tradition in which presidents refrained from speaking on monetary policy. the dollar and the treasury yields fell sharply after his comments, but have since recovered. fed chair jerome powell has risen its benchmark rate twice this year and signalled two more rate increases over the coming months. trump went on to say he wouldn t interfere with the fed s plans. let s switch gears and get a check on the weather with meteorologist michelle grossman. michelle, a much needed and valuable look at this weekend s weather. that s right. we have a lot going on in temperature of weather. very busy yesterday with the dangerous storms through iowa and also missouri. this moved to the east and now we are looking at the tennessee and ohio valleys. this entire area under the bulls eye for strong storms today, maybe even isolated tornados especially where you see the red. we could he ssee some flooding and possibly large hail. we will be watching it throughout the afternoon hours. we are looking at rainfall from two to three inches, and that will be the big story for today. we are also looking in the northeast. a beautiful day today. having issues with my clicker here. low humidity, nice temperatures but things change heading to the later part of saturday into sunday. we are looking into flooding rains in the northeast. we have a coastal low moving upbringing us a stormy end to the weekend, and that will last through the first part of the week. in the south we are still watching the triple digit temperatures. ayman. definitely. 39 million people, a big chunk of the country affected by this. it sure is. thanks. you re welcome. kevin kissner putts his way to an early lead while a familiar name climbs up the leader board. all of the highlights from day one of the british open next in sports. little things can be a big deal. that s why there s otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it s a pill that treats psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months, . with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don t use if you re allergic to otezla. otezla may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or 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backlash to his one-on-one, plans now for a part two between donald trump and vladimir putin. were you aware of that? i just want to clarify because you seem to be i think based on my reaction i wasn t aware of that. reporter: the news surprising even the president s own director of national intelligence, on stage in aspen. would you recommend there not be a one-on-one without notetakers? if i were asked that question, i would, yeah, look for a different way of doing it. reporter: it would be putin s first visit to the u.s. since 2015 and the first since his country interfered in the 2016 election. president trump now on defense after muddled messaging over his posture toward putin. look at the sanctions i ve put on. look at the diplomats i threw out. look at all of the things that i ve done. nobody else did what i ve done. obama didn t do it. obama was a patsy for russia. getting along with president putin, getting along with russia is a positive, not a negative. now, with that being said, if that doesn t work out, i ll be the worst enemy he s ever had. reporter: now after a week s worth of cleanups, another one after the art of the deal president didn t reject one from russia fast enough. the deal would have let the special counsel question 12 recently-indicted russian intelligence officials if, and only if, russia could then interrogate 11 americans putin has problems with. that includes the former u.s. ambassador to russia, michael mcfaul, an nbc news international affairs analyst. reporter: what is your message to donald trump? the president of the united states needs to come out and categorically denounce it. reporter: the white house is not denouncing putin but is insisting the president won t play ball on this. quote, it is a proposal that was made in sincerity by president putin, but president trump disagrees with it. all right. our thanks to hallie jackson for that report. well, the president has made references to the topics he discussed with vladimir putin on monday, saying in interviews and tweets that their discussion touched on topics including sear ya, iran, israel, and a number of other international security-related subjects. senior u.s. officials are actually still waiting for any direction from the white house. the head of u.s. central command, army general joseph votel told reporters he had no guidance, no new guidance as a result of helsinki. typically the white house would brief national security officials after such a meeting or provide them at least with a written memo. meanwhile, a u.s. ambassador in europe, who has extensive experience dealing with russia, told the new yorker that he and other state department officials who would need to know have received no post-summit briefings or even talking points about what actually happened. saying, quote, nothing. we are completely in the dark, completely. as of yesterday the president s director of national intelligence dan coates said he had not been briefed on any potential agreements coming out of that meeting. i don t know what happened in that meeting. i think as time goes by, and the president has already mentioned some things that happened in that meeting, i think we will learn more. but that is the president s prerogative. he had asked me how that ought to be conducted, i would have sug suggested a different way but that s not my role, that s not my job. so it is what it is. a lot going on at the aspen security forum. deputy attorney general rod rosenstein delivered remarks to the forum last night where he spoke about the threat of covert propaganda and disinformation. the russian effort to influence the 2016 presidential campaign is just one tree in a growing forest. focusing merely on a single election misses the point. russian intelligence officers did it not stumble on the idea of hacking american computers and posting misleading messages because they had a free afternoon. it is what they do every day. rosenstein also made a comment about the certainty that goes into intelligence assessments and indictments, contrasting with the president, hedging his language about russia in the recent days. my people came to me, dan coates came to me and some others. they said they think it s russia. i accept our intelligence community s conclusion that russia s meddling in the 2016 election took place. could be other people also. there s a lot of people out there. intelligence assessments and criminal indictments are based on evidence. they do not reflect mere guesses. all right. and there were some confusing comments from the secretary of homeland security at that very same security forum. she eventually clarified, but only after she was pressed multiple times by multiple reporters. take a look. i haven t seen any evidence that the attempts to interfere in our election infrastructure was to favor a particular political party. i think what we ve seen on the foreign influence side is they were attempting to intervene and cause chaos on both sides. but for clarity, the intelligence community did have that finding, right? their finding was that it was in an effort to favor the president, agreed? it was in an effort to attack certain political parties that we know about, right, more than others. you seem to be really kind of parsing and ducking the question about russian interference in the election and what the goal was, which was to sew discord as you said but also to help elect donald trump. do you disagree with the intelligence assessment of all of the country s intelligence agencies, which seem to be pretty unanimous? i do not disagree. i agree, i ve said that many times with the intel assessment. we just had an answer to julia s question that you agree with the intelligence community s assessment. are you saying that you agree with not only the assessment that it was russia that interfered, but that their intention was to help donald trump and disadvantage hillary clinton? can you just say those words very simply and directly? i agree with the intel community s assessment, full stop. any attack on our democracy, which is what that was, whether it is successful or unsuccessful, is unacceptable. all right. joining us from washington once again, capitol hill reporter sorry the hill reporter molly hooper. good to have you back. i was trying to pars my words with how kirstjen nielsen was trying to donl that question. i do cover capitol hill, so it is okay. let s talk about that. was there a strategy behind what she was saying in her confusing comments? why was she not straightforward about that assessment? again, i m going to come at this from the capitol hill angle because i talk to lawmakers all day every day pretty much. they would say, again, there s no strategy. you know, in trying to explain away what happened and interpret these intelligence results, you know, the administration is kind of causing more problems for themselves. i think that, you know, i actually spoke with one republican senator, mike rounds, yesterday who said, regardless of who this would be helping essentially, russia did try to mess with our elections. they want to mess with our elections again. the whole purpose of doing that is not because they re necessarily going to influence the outcome of an election, not because they can do that, but because it can sew discord among the voters in this country over confidence in whether we do have, you know, free elections and fair elections. that s what we re seeing playing out. i mean if you see how divided this country is, a lot of it, you know, whether russia was able to actually influence and impact the outcome of our election, that s a big issue. it is something that obviously the president makes a big deal of each time he s asked about it. i really wonder how much of the secretary s comments were directed at trying to preserve face with the president, not saying because we know how much of an issue it is for president trump whenever he hears that the election may somehow be shrouded in favor him over hillary clinton. let s switch gears for a moment, molly, and talk about the reaction from capitol hill to the news that president trump has invited vladimir putin to the white house. how is that playing out? again, just fell on death s door. when i was asking members about this yesterday, same kind of reaction as dan coates had, sort of incredulity, as if it isn t the right time. can you imagine if they re talking about a meeting in the fall, having the optics of president putin and president trump, you know, it is the end of october or mid-october, the midterm elections are around the corner. incredible. it doesn t do any favors for anybody. keep in mind, you know, when president trump was then made the presidential the republican presidential contender, you know, the candidate, a lot of republicans felt very confident that, okay, things will be okay because mike pence is involved now. they went to mike pents ace and said, listen, can you please tell that guy trump to quit talking about putin love, how much he loves putin? this was almost two years ago. now to have it come back, it is that big a deal for them. we saw this past week where i mean i have covered capitol hill a long time and i have never seen one party turn on the leader in the white house of their own party so quickly and with such force. yeah, and not to mention dan coates reaction when he found out the news, saying he would have to evaluate the intelligence risk of having vladimir putin at the white house ahead of the midterm elections. molly hooper, thank you for joining us this morning. thank you. still ahead, an update from missouri after a tourist boat capsizes in stormy weather killing at least 11 people. the search is still on for five people this morning. we are back in a moment with those details. it s easy to think that all money managers are pretty much the same. but while some push high commission investment products, fisher 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around 7:00 p.m. central time. what more can you tell us about the weather conditions in that area of southern missouri at the time and maybe give us a sense of what it is today for the search and rescue operations. yeah. i mean just pretty much the worst time to be on those waters. you can see how rough the waters were. we had two storm complexes that moved through the one in iowa that brought the tornado and also this complex that moved right down the waters in missouri. we had wind gusting over 60 miles per hour, 74 miles per hour wind in some spots. that s hurricane force winds. also, some low visibility. i mean just look at that. the waves are so strong and the boat is so small. so we just had that storm moving through at a terrible time. hopefully today will be better. we have better conditions there where they can kind of get the search and rescue underway. we want to talk about the storm threat today because we are looking at storms in the east today. so the same system that brought the storms yesterday now has moved off to the east. we are looking at enhanced risk of storms today, so pretty dangerous conditions later on this afternoon, louisville, nashville under the gun for those. you want to listen to your local news later on this afternoon. otherwise in the northeast we are looking picture perfect today, low humidity, nice temperatures. get outdoors because things will be changing later on this weekend in the northeast. in the south, triple digit temperatures once again. we ve had these for a few days, we will see them for a few more. dangerous heat, especially for this extended period of time. now, as we look towards saturday, again, here comes the rain. we have a coastal low that will be moving up the eastern seaboard. it will bring a lot of rain in some spots, over three inches along the coast in some spots. in the northeast we will see gusty winds overnight saturday into sunday. by monday we will see an upper level low that is just going to keep the water in place so to speak, and we will be wet for most of the beginning of next week. record highs still in the south. we will continue to watch this at least through monday, and then things begin to get better for the folks in the south by monday. by sunday, again, here is the coastal low, now up to the new england parts of new england, but really heavy rain, flooding rain. you want to be careful on the roadways. we are looking at monsoon rains also in the southwest. really busy today, and also over the weekend in terms of the weather. lots to track. thanks for that, michelle. you re welcome. still ahead, president trump breaks precedent once again, this time talking down the u.s. dollar. literally talking it down. look at this dramatic drop. we will play the president s comments and the reaction that triggered that next. let s begin. yes or no? do you want the same tools and seamless experience across web and tablet? do you want $4.95 commissions for stocks, $0.50 options 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with it. i must tell you, i don t. i m not thrilled because, you know, we go up, and every time you go up they want to raise rates again. i don t really i am not happy about it. but at the same time i m letting them do what they feel is best. now, i m just saying the same thing that i would have said as a private citizen. so somebody would say, would s shouldn t say that as a president. i couldn t care less what they say, because my views haven t changed. that was president trump voicing disapproval for decisions made by fed chair jerome powell signaled additional interest rate hikes to senators earlier in the week. live in london we have more. presidents rarely interject when it comes to the fed. could this influence powell s plans in the future? this is pretty unprecedented. we ve seen elsewhere when world leaders get involved talking about policy, for instance, turkey, president erdogan once he talked about this, they saw the turkish lir crater. seems the fed hasn t actually commented an the comments themselves. the white house tried to stress trump was repeating long-held views and of course is no longer a private citizen, he is president of the united states and seen over the 18 months when these comments are made it does have an impact on global markets. speaking of cnbc, our parent company, yours as well, comcast decided to back way from assets belonging to 21st century fox clearing the way for disney to continue with an acquisition in t the. comcast will focus on trying to buy sky here in the uk. they re competing for fox for that acquisition. and we saw that chart, if we can bring it up again. the dollar just plummeting after the president s comments. i mean that just shows the impact that a president can have on the markets. very interesting there. yes. definitely something investors watch closely. why every time he speaks publicly about any of this you have people around the world reacting, watching closely trying to pause hi views on these 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axios, national reporter jonathan swan. great to you have with us this friday morning. what is axios s one big thing for us? everyone s focused on putin, so are we, but the chances of a long and intense trade war with china appear to be much higher than they were a couple of months ago. senior trump administration officials including the normally cheerful larry kudlow, top economic adviser, you re not hearing my colleague spoke to larry kudlow last night. not hearing the old larry kudlow. don t worry, everything will be fine. we ll find a solution. this is a larry kudlow saying, no, we really need to take on the chinese and this is, the ball s in their court, she is really messing with us and messing with the wrong guy if messing with donald trump. hearing bellicose from senior trump officials, when we talk to them privately there really isn t any obvious exit ramp from this cycle of escalating tit for tat tariffs. as for consumers, farmers, the people this has effects on living around america, this is a concerning situation. then let s hone in on those potential voters and consumers. it seems that this trade war with china will be changing up at least some of the senate races in trump states. tell us a little bit more about how that is playing out. it s not just senate races. it s also house races across the midwest. we are already seeing the effects of tariffs on soybeans, dairy. so you re getting, you know, take north dakota. heidi heitkamp is vulnerable but using it as an issue to hammer her republican oh don t, harm her agriculture sector in north dakota she s saying and seeing it across other states too. when you talk to republicans who are involved in these campaigns, it is the most unpredictable and potentially dangerous issue in their minds that could potentially hamper what has been very strong economic growth under the trump administration. given that you were talking about, there s no exit ramp here for this ongoing trade crisis, are the folks on capitol hill watching with alarm and concern it is spiraling from a worst to worst situation and not much they themselves can do, because they can t even agree to pass a resolution to shore up support whether for trade, allies, or what have you? of course, they could do something. they have it in their power to pass legislation to restrain him but they re in an interesting bind. these republicans are scared, petrified, of crossing trump. you see it every day on every issue, whether it s putin or anything else and it s simply because he is remarkably popular among republican voters. stunningly popular, and republican voters even on this putin press conference, which republican members on the hill will horrified by, we did polling. 80% of republican voters thought trump handled it just fine. trump was correct when he said during the campaign he could shoot someone on fifth avenue and his people would stay with him. it doesn t seem to matter what he does. republicans on the hill, there are almost zero profiles in courage and most seem to be retiring profiles in courage. absolutely. the ones leaving that are speaking out the most. jonathan swan, stay put. we re going to see you in a second at the top of morning joe, also reading axios a.m. in a bit. sign up for the newsletters, signup@ax oux.com. morning joe starts right now. good morning and welcome to morning joe. it is friday, july the 20th, and with us this morning, national affairs analyst for nbc news and msnbc john heilemann. we also have donny deutsch with us. legendary ad man and masusan de percio. white house reporter for the associated press jonathan lamere and washington anchor for bbc world news america katy kay. donny, i have to ask, our introductions of you are carved up by a thanksgiving turkey. at the beginning legendary ad man now they have don. don d. i mean, everythinge
yes. tell me, donny d. as a legendary advertiser and marketing man what do you make of the president of the united states, we ll get to the news in a second. it was really shocking that the president of the united states after being called treasonous by quite a few people in the foreign policy defense community, still trying to clean up which is going to be our top story, you know, the mess that he created when he went to helsinki and kowtowed to an ex kgb, and now announces president putin is coming to washington, before cleaning up the last mess on aisle 7. what s your take? interesting, joe, you used the word t. word beginning of the week a lot of democrats, people used it and all of a sudden, oh, maybe that s too hard. i don t think it s extreme to use that treason word. adhering to enemies giving them aid and comfort. i don t know how else you describe what trump did beginning of the week and to your point now is doubling down on it. i think that trump like a petulant child at any time in any way he s rebuked about anything, his response is to double first to walk it back and walk back the walk back and then double down. just putting in our faces, putting it in americans faces, and i as branding guy, i have no trepidation at all about assigning that treason word. it is no different than had somebody attacked the united states with missiles when you attack our voting system, actually you re doing more harm to us, because once you destroy that process, our democracy is over. you have an election, we can t believe in it that is an act of war in any way, sense or form, and we have a treasonous president who now put it in our face in finland, now going to bring it to our own shores, and as jonathan swan talked about on axios, the fact that 80% of republicans think that he behav behaved okay, gave him a stamp of approval. shame on these pathetic whimpering cowards. yeah. i wrote about it yesterday. who are these people? what have they done to my party? 80% of americans think it s okay to cower before an ex kgb agent. insult allies. you wonder, this isn t just a donald trump problem now. this is a problem with the party cast wide. and really quickly, before we move on to the first script, john heilemann, this is something we really need to talk about. i personally believe it changes not only the face of the republican party but in the long run destroys the republican party. that you have treason was used by so many people. criticizing donald trump. even the wall street journal said that congress needed to pass a containment plan not only for putin but also for donald trump. you had the president of the united states doing vladimir putin s bidding, exactly what he wanted them to do. attacking nato. attacking theresa may. attacking germany. attacking angela merkel. attacking al of our closest our closest allies. as we re hearing just about every night on russian tv, commentators shocked saying we couldn t even succeed this well in the cold war. now donald trump is doing all of our work for us. but what is the long-term impact of a republican party now who not only is embracing vladimir putin and embracing vladimir putin s agenda, which is to destroy nato, and disrupt elections, but now they re also i think i saw somebody last night a quote that 73% of republicans now support tariffs and protectionism, which, again is a complete reversal that will have impact in the long run on this party. well, joe, i think that the corruption and bankruptcy of the republican party has been a long time in the making, but there is no republican party anymore in any sense that you would have defined the republican party ten years ago, and the way you would have, what the republican party stood for at least in the post-world war ii era. it has become the party of donald trump. and so in a thorough way, we ve seen this not just in startling polling in relation to how republicans now have seen the performance of donald trump in helsinki, presumably how they will see his invitation now of vladimir putin to come to washington to give him the ultimate kind of rather than to chastise him, rather than to criticize him for russia s role in meddling in an american election, he s giving him the ultimate kind of dher rcherry o of a sundae what a russian president would want most of us, especially in this week. but, john, as it goes to republicans. rank and file republicans 75% saying they liked what he said in helsinki when again closest allied the said treasonous or a complete dupe. who are these people that i grew up with that were the most the toughest on russia, that fought the cold war alongside with nato. when the soviets goal during the cold war is the same goal that vladimir putin has now, which is to disrupt western democracies and break up nato. the goal is identical and what republicans always supported. you talk about trade. 73% of republicans now are telling pollsters that they think tariffs are good for america? yes. this again, who are these people? it s like political body snatchers. joe, the people who now call themselves, now are the republican party. the people you thought in your life growing up in the party are now either no longer in the party, or they are in a kind of weak and craven way sitting on the sidelines wringing their hands over what donald trump has done to the party, not doing much about it. some speaking out, some not. over the course of the week as i watched from vacation, david ignatius said, you could feel the fabric of the presidency ripping and could hear there are more republicans speaking ot. it s not nearly as much as you expect but more speaking out, but the rank and file of the party now, the the grass roots of the republican party are people who believe what donald trump believes, and not what you believe, and not what republicans believed in the post-world war ii era, they don t believe in free trade, don t believe in immigration, don t believe in standing up to russian previously soviet expansionism, they don t believe in nato they don t believe those things. it s not what the republican party is anymore. to answer your question, i don t know what happens. as you pointed out many times over the course of the last 18 months, there will be a period after donald trump. whether in fewer than couple years from now. whether donald trump makes it through, gets his his first term forestalled, make it through one term and beaten or a re-election, at some point there will be a life after donald trump and then the republican party s going to look up and say, what are we? what have we become? and does that lead to a fundamental redefense redefinition of the republican life? ask the question, what have we done, and why did we sit by and allow it to happen the way we did? susan del percio, i m curious. when you go to a reagan dinner, a lincoln-reagan din perp used to just be reagan dinners republicans every year, usually january, february, march, have a big fund-raising dinner and invite in a speaker. but if you go to a lincoln-reagan dinner now, talking to rank and file, if you believe the polls, talking to a rank and file that no longer believe in free trade. okay. so i guess what i said at lincoln-reagan dinners about free trade i couldn t say anymore if i were still a republican. talk about balancing budgets, reducing the debt. boy, one of the biggest expansions and deficits and debt spending in the history of our country, in the history of the world. so i couldn t talk about that. you talk about standing up to an expansionist russia. being tough, not leading from behind. you talk about your alliances with, you know, nato. i mean, these are the things that we talked about. that s right. we talked about for 50 years. not me for 50 years but at least two decades, and you could go to every reagan-lincoln dinner across america, lincoln-reagan dinner across america, and you could say the same thing wherever you went, and you d get the applause. now according to these polls it s not a split. now 80% of americans are fine with donald trump s kowtowing to an ex-kgb agent who wants to destroy our allies, and wants to disrupt our elections. and they now, you look at this poll, they support tariffs. what the hell what the hell who the hell are these people? what is wrong with these republicans? where has the party, not of my youth, but of my early 50s gone? it s gone, joe. and it s really difficult. i was reading your column this morning, and i, too, said, like where is my party? i don t recognize it. and i could have gone to a lincoln day dinner a year or two years ago and heard those things. it has happened so quickly. let s not forget. we did have strong republicans running for president for 2016. donald trump did beat them. but they were you know what? jeb bush is certainly a legitimate, strong candidate. marco rubio you my not have agreed with their policies however they were strong republicans and they were beaten by the personality of donald trump at that point. the policies of donald trump are now what is what has defeated the republican party, and that is putting us in a very difficult situation, and personally i think if we don t start to see republican organizations setting up the field for 2020 to open it up for a conservative republican to run or just a principled republican, leave it at that, then we are going to see this party dive way deeper. i would like to talk about the beginning of the segment. before we knew about russia undermining our elections, let s not forget. donald trump did that two weeks before election day in 2016. he questioned the validity of our elections. he said he may not accept the election results, and that really is the kind of, what led us down this road that we are today. from two weeks before the election in 2016. yeah. and and by the way, again, just as we wrap up this week, a lot of people have said throughout the week that donald trump was kowtowing to vladimir putin and ignoring what all of his intel community and military leaders had said about them meddling in our democracy, because, it said he took it too personally and couldn t admit that his election may have been compromised. well, again, it s important to always remember, he was kowtowing to vladimir putin on this show december of 2015 before the first vote. so, again, there s something there. we don t know what it is. there is something there. he d get in my ear, when susan was talking about lincoln-reagan dinners, you know, he was a republican, a famous tweet from early in the campaign, when actually, everybody knew he was a republican and the first republican president. read a back every once in a while s in a week of cleanups and reversals, the white house is now rejecting just for today rejecting vladimir putin s offer to allow the united states investigators to question 12 russians indicted for election meddling, in exchange for the u.s. agreeing to let moscow question some american officials. including former u.s. ambassador to russia michael mcfaul. the white house press secretary of state sarah huckabee sanders put out a new statement yesterday saying, it is a proposal that was made in sincerity by president putin, made in sincerity? i think it was very cynical, but president trump agrees with it. hopefully president putin will have 129 identified russians come to the united states to prove their innocence or guilt. the statement, president trump agrees to it is in direct contrast what he initially said calling it an incredible offer and sanders saying that the white house wa considering the proposal. we would expect that the americans would reciprocate and they would question officials including the officers of law enforcement and intelligence service of the united states whom we believe are, have something to do with illegal actions on the territory of russia. what he did is an incredible offer. he offered to have the people working on the case come and work with their investigators with respect to the 12 people. i think that s an incredible offer. the president s going to meet with his team and we ll let you know when we have an announcement on that s. that a topic that came up in their conversation? did president putin raise this with president trump? there was some conversation about it, but there wasn t a commitment made on behalf of the united states, and the president will work with his team and we ll let you know if there s an announcement on that front. you know, katty kay, let s really strip this down and be honest about it. no american, unless they were a dupe for vladimir putin, would think that turning a former russian ambassador over to russian investigators, especially an ambassador who had been kicked out of russia because he spoke out too forcefully against vladimir putin s abuses, no red-blooded american would think that was an incredible offer, but donald trump did think is was an incredible offer. sarah huckabee sanders said he had to think about it a day later, and now we have this reversal yet again. i m sure they ll change tomorrow, but what do you make of the back and forths on turning americans over to russians? this was never going to happen. you were never going to turn over a former ambassador or a u.s.-born financier to help implement the magnisky act and you have to wonder what was president trump thinking? what did putin say to him, how did he communicate to him that seemed to win donald trump over so when he came out of that two-hour meeting his initial instinct, gut reaction say, yeah, this is an incredible offer. i think this is a great idea. i think as we head into the prospect, because one was not enough, why not have a second one, of that second putin meeting. you ve got intelligence officials now scrambling to find out what else donald trump may have agreed to. what did he give away? what were the verbal commitments? you have russian officials and president putin saying, hey, it was great. we came out of helsinki, got agreements, looking forward to working on them and the head scratching going on around washington particularly in the defense community saying, we have no idea. we don t know what our president may have just committed this country to, and now we have the prospect of a second meeting as well. it beggars belief. it s extraordinary. jonathan lamere, you were there. tell me all the back and forths that have been going on this week. what s your take? what have you heard inside the white house? what have you heard across washington? not only about the reaction a week later, or several days later, into the summit, but also the president lurching forward to have another summit with vladimir putin when he still hasn t cleaned up the multitude of messes created by the first summit? very few things seem to stick to this president. he seems to bounce off controversy nearly on a daily basis pap few things lining charlottesville, we still feel that one. this week seems like it could stay. i think the part of the confusion is, part of the reason why the stories and questions are still circulating is that no one knows really what happened. not just we in the media don t ent firely know what happened. key members of the united states government don t know what happened in helsinki on monday. the members of the white house themselves are still trying to figure out exactly what president trump may have agreed to. we re relying on what the russians are telling us. i think there s been a lot of pushback from republicans, those, mostly those not facing re-election this fall, who feel this was a mistake. the president has given too much. changed the party. we saw the reaction on fox news which we never see to something the president does. the president, though, is telling people they wants jonathan, fox news, jonathan, you have the new york post. yep. being critical. talking about his see no evil diplomacy. you had the wall street journal. again, how remarkable that the wall street journal said we need a containment policy. they re correct. congress needs a containment policy not only for vladimir putin but also for donald trump. you had a lot of very conservative voices coming out, being very critical of the president, and yet here s the president, despite the fact it s not good for him politically, dough spite the fact it will hurt republicans in the mid-term setting up yet another summit with vladimir putin. and it fits a pattern here. right? the few moments where we have seen this president never apologize, sort of walk something back. the access hollywood tape and charlottesville and both times issued a statement, like a retreat, felt like a hostage video did it unwillingly only to double down a day later in his position. seeing it now, him and haw what he said to putin and now seeing, yes, he wants to forge forward with the summit, we re seeing it again. there s a bigger picture, joe and we have to focus on it. we ll talk about dan coats and his interview yesterday with andrea mitchell but an extraordinary thing happened yesterday. the dni, the director of national intelligence, the guy who knows everything, yesterday told andrea mitchell essentially, he still has no idea what happened in the meeting between donald trump and vladimir putin. that s an amazing thing that happened, and you can feel among a lot of serious people, a lot of republicans who have been concerned about what s happening in this presidency, about what s happening between donald trump and vladimir putin, about what vladimir putin might have in terms of compromising material or other kind of leverage against donald trump, this in and of itself san astonishing thing we learned yesterday and then in the middle of the interview the president comes out and issue as statement that says that he s inviting vladimir putin, despite all of the sound and fury of this last week, that he s inviting vladimir putin to come to washington, d.c. really, it s a moment that we will remember, i think, historically and it s kind of astonishing on a million levels, but i will say that that apart from everything else what we learned with that invitation is one of the things that happened in that meeting. one of the things that happened in that meeting is that donald trump in secret, in secret, not from the press, secret from his own dni and much of the rest of his government made an agreement with vladimir putin to have vladimir putin come to washington in the middle of a mid-term election. that speaks to the extraordinary leverage that vladimir putin has over donald trump. we still don t know exactly why, but an incredible thing. well it really doesn t matter why at this point. i mean, we ll find out why either through robert mueller or historians will find out why, but i can t even imagine, john, republicans that are in swing districts that hillary won getting the news that donald trump is going to make a fool of himself again with vladimir putin. this time in the united states in a leadup to a mid-term election. it s very bad news for those political suicide. yeah. it s political suicide. yeah. political suicide. got to go to break. i m curious quickly. end of the week, looking back. we ve talked about this, john, for quite some time. republicans being too cowardly to stand up on the hill for donald trump. republicans in his administration biting their tongue when they should be speaking out. would you say this is a weak, at least, attached to this one event, maybe not maybe it won t happen to other events, but this was the one week that a good bit of the republican and conservative leadership in washington, d.c. thought leaders, and political leaders did stand up and speak out against donald trump? certainly it s just impurically, it was greater in number and there was more of it than we ve ever seen before on almost anything else. i think it s even more than there was. jonathan lamere mentioned charlottesville, one outstanding xavrm example, more this week. more than that, though, the sight of dni coats yesterday making the comments he made that may have put his job in jeopardy, get to that reporting later today, the way in which christopher wray, the comments to lester holt out in aspen, in various ways they re trying to signal that something is wrong here, and that what we saw from donald trump in helsinki and what we ve seen in the aftermath of helsinki suggests that something is not just wrong but deeply dangerous. i think you are starting to see some kind of shift in the tectonic plates in the way the government is dealing with donald trump and in particular the way your former party is dealing with him. this may be a week that history remembers. i think so and good luck fairing dan coats. if he this firing james comey was a problem, good luck firing dan coats a man that suggests something s just not right with donald trump s reship with vladimir putin. lots of luck on that one, fella. dan coats, as we re talking about. his stunned reaction to the white house invite of vladimir putin was just one of several telling moments from the director of the national intelligence. we re going to run through the others straight ahead on morning joe. we ll be right back. 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well, my thoughts there were that i believed i needed to correct the record for that, and that this is the job i signed up for, and that was my responsibility. obviously, i wished he had made a different statement, but i think that now that his, this has been clarified, based on his late reactions to this, and so i don t think i want to go any further than that. he said, i accept our intelligence community s conclusion that russia s meddling in the 2016 election took place could be other people also could be other people also? what does he know that you don t know? well, could is not a definitive word here that could someone else be looking at how to do this? re toiv our re toiv o relative to this, other rogue states, could be, but it s undeniable that the russians are taking the lead on this and basically the ones trying to undermine our basic values, divide us with our allies. they are the ones that are trying to wreck havoc over our election process and we need to call them out on that. i think anybody who thinks that vladimir putin doesn t have his stamp on everything that happens in russia is misinformed. it is very clear virtually nothing happens there, any kind of consequence that vladimir putin doesn t know about or hasn t ordered. did you know beforehand that kislyak were going into the oval office that day? i did not. what was your reaction afterwards? i mean, we all learned about it from tass. probably not the best thing to do. but, no. i was not aware of that. i m not aware of anything like that since. you have to understand you have a plead did not come through the system, came from the outside. i don t think there was any nefarious attempt there to do anything but that s history. you know, in washington 2016, the fact that that is considered to be an extraordinary interview and what coats said is considered to be extraordinary shows you just how far washington has sunk in the era of donald trump, because, after all, everything that the director of national intelligence said has been confirmed by america s intelligence community, america s military community, and the media, even conservative media outlets, like the wall street journal. everybody has when i say conservative media outlets, also the journal editorial page. it s beyond question. everything that dan coats just said there is beyond question that vladimir putin is meddling in american elections. he s been trying to do that. it is an objective fact since 2014. the indictments that came out today, this day last week, shows clear and convincing evidence. put it before any jury in america, those russians, vladimir putin, would be convicted beyond a reasonable doubt. be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, and so the question is why would the director of national intelligence just restating what the intelligence community has been saying nonstop since january of 2017 cause any problems for anybody? let s bring in right now let s bring in jonathan swan from axios and he s going to tell us why this is a big deal. jonathan, you ve talked to sources close to the president, and they ve expressed astonishment at coats interview. i guess they haven t been paying attention since january 2017 that all coats said yesterday was exactly what the entire intelligence community and the entire united states military community has known since january 2017, bhaut what are yo hearing? he said four important things that caught their attention. first, he thought it was misguided for the president to meet alone with vladimir putin and that had he been asked he wouldn t have advised it. . he said he still have no idea what they discussed in that private meeting which in itself is a stunning revelation from the nation s spy chief and you talked about that earlier. he said he had no idea that putin had been invited to the white house, and he also said, as you pointed out, that he thought, dismayed by the president s statement after the press conference. now, i got two phone calls in very quick order after that tv appearance. one of them while he was still on with andrea, and the first reaction, just so you understand the mind-set around trump was, he s got to go. he s got to go. and to be clear by the way, jonathan, that s exactly what jared said about james comey and, boy, look what in did for them with robert mueller. do they not understand the consequences of firing a director of national intelligence for saying exactly what the entire intelligence community believes? well, to be clear, i don t know whether trump is contemplating firing him or not, but just so i mean, they ve been around him long enough to know what triggers him and what s going to get under his skin and anything that wreaks of, you know anything that s short of utter affirmation in, you know, potentially a fireable offense. so have they learned any lessons? i think the learning curve is not particularly impressive with this white house. a very nice way to put it katty kay, though, there has to be at least a few people in there that say, if you fired dan coats, that would that would be that would make the firing of james comey look like a spring shower for you politically, because, again, all dan coats is saying is what he s learned by picking up intel on the russians, what the other intel chiefs have said. there s nothing he said that was radical. the radical actions are taking place by the president of the united states, who is trying to undermine along with vladimir putin 50 years of united states national security doctrine. if you took a written transcript of what dan coats said you may think there s nothing radical and the president would have no reason to disagree with him or be upset, but every time we hear back that clip of this long pause and then dan coats with a kind of smirk on this face saying, okay. that s going to be special. it s what makes you realize that the tone of this, right, jonathan, is something that the president is going to find very hard to tolerate. we know donald trump. he is thin skinned about criticism. i found it hard i don t know what you thought, jonathan, listening to that tape not to think that dan coats was kind of mocking his boss. it s also the whole setting. i mean, he s at the aspen security forum. there s a very clubby atmosphere, laughing along, and really in some respects it did look like he was ridiculing the president and, i mean, i could just i would love to be in the room to see the president watch this clip. it would be a sight to behold. a question i want to ask jonathan lamere along the same line that katty and swan were talking about a second ago. that was what struck me. in my mind the way it played out, the substance of distancing that coats was doing from trump was the thing that enraged trump first. trump then goes to my little scenario for how this played out. trump then goes to sarah sanders and says, let s get this tweet out saying that putin s coming in the fall. to tweet coats while still live onstage. he tweets coats and coats starts in that way that you saw in the clip. kind of laughing and kind of laughing at trump. the tonal thing of him saying, okay. oh, boy. that, then, further the cycle of thin-skinned rage is all spun up by this and now they are angry at him for seeming to mock trump with his laughter in front of this crowd of elites in aspen. whether that s the actual chronology it fits a pattern. the president likes to torment his advisers, we ve seen what he s done to sessions over a year now. and i spoke to somebody yesterday who pitched that coats interview almost like an exit interview. like he s out the door and knows the gate keeper is following and saying this stuff on the way out and i d like to add that the president has actually wanted vladimir putin to come to the white house for a while. this is not a in idea nap was his original plan. he s had discussions with advisers last spring he wanted to invite putin here and had to be talked out of it, convinced to do something on neutral turf and mind you, initially bought the helsinki thing wasn t glamorous enough but he has wanted putin to come to washington for a while now and is hellbent to see it happen. that is true. he has wanted it for a while. the president became enraged with h.r. mcmaster, former national security adviser for simply saying, i think at the munich conference, indisputable evidence russia meddled and the president said what mcmaster forgot to mention is i won whatever it was electoral votes, crooked hillary was terrible. that got under his skin. again, like, this is these advisers are not crazy to think that this dan coats interview could have a fairly interesting impact once the president watches it. we will see what happens. jonathan swan, thank you so much. always appreciate it. coming up later this morning, we will be talking to the top democrat on the senate intel committee mark warner. plus, major drama on the house floor as republicans vote down funding to increase election security. let me say that again. republicans voted down funding for increased election security to keep your vote safe. we re going to play that moment ahead on morning joe. let s get started. show of hands. who wants customizable options chains? 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you re giving something back to your country, it s a reward. welcome back to morning joe . it is friday, july 20th. still with us we have national affairs analyst for nbc news and msnbc. national treasure how is that for an introduction, donny deuts deutsch. national treasure. and also lounge lizard in the hamptons on fridays. and washington anchor for bbc news world news america, katty kay. and joining the conversation, we have white house correspondent for pbs news hour. and also columnist for the new york times brett stevens as well as commentary editor for the washington examiner and a visiting fellow at the american enterprise institute tim carney. so, let s talk about what we just heard. brett stevens, obviously, you have a balancing act for an awful lot of people that work for this white house who actually feel like sometimes they feel they need to leave, other times they feel they need to stay there and keep doing the sort of thing that dan coats did yesterday and has been doing through the week. what s your take on the balancing act that they are making, and when they should finally just throw in the towel. i think over a lot of these guys they tell themselves privately that they are cleaning up for the president, but more recently i think they are covering up for the president. i think that goes particularly for john bolton and secretary of state mike pompeo. i ve known both men for years, as i m sure you have, and they ve had one consistent view or two consistent views, first of all don t negotiate with dictators in north korea, they never keep their word. it s a fool s gambit. the united states should never do that. secondly don t trust the russian, especially former kgb agents like vladimir putin. now here you have both men going along with probably the most accommodationist or appeasement oriented policy an american president has had in as long as you and i can remember. this puts the russian reset to shame in term of the way in which president trump has consistently reached out to putin, has apologized for him, has taken his side in disputes and at some point you have to ask yourself or ask john and mike, how long can you go along with this policy and honor your conscience to say nothing of your country. i just don t see how they can do it except unless they are so addicted to power they will run with it for as long as they stay in office. tim carney, you and i and a lot of our friends have grown-up listening to john bolton, especially, and while i wasn t thrilled about john bolton going to work for the white house because i didn t know that he could play well with others, that the two things that gave me solace was the fact that nobody in washington, d.c. has been tougher on russia and iran and specifically vladimir putin than john bolton. you can do a quick google search on bolton and russia and come up with just a potpourri of tough no compromise comments about how vladimir putin is corrupt, ex-kgb agent who wants to take over western europe. there s two interesting divides. right at this table. with me and brett with the highlights, a divide on the right. one what you have with bolton and pompeo and i think you re reaching out to them is that they are very hawkish republicans who are more likely to want to push things up to the point of conflict, whether it s up to the point of war in syria. the other is the attitude towards trump. a lot of us, brett and i both could call us never trump conservatives during the election. after the election i don t think that phrase means anything. the idea oh, they are still supporting trump. for me the question is on what given policy. are they helping trump appease putin or are they trying to push trump in the right direction on putin? i don t think it makes sense you re still on trump s side, he s doing these bad things you need to quit. the job of everybody whether it s somebody in the administration like pompeo or boll on the or conservative commentators to push trump in the right direction. to oppose trump is a meaningless idea. i ll put something more out there and it s a little in the weed. you also don t have government functioning at full capacity. so if you have a pompeo resign what happens to the people at secretary of state. right now the three top cyber people including assistant director at the fbi are leaving. that means there s vacancies in cyber as we re going into the 2018 mid-term election. so resigning is a great concept but we need our government to be working as well. well, there s so many situations. john, for instance, if for some reason dan coats was pushed out, was fired or resigned under pressure, it s just like jeff sessions, good luck having the united states senate allow donald trump to replace him with anybody else. that s why the firing of dan coats under these circumstances is just not possible. let s get back, though, to john bolton who actually one year ago today one year ago today vladimir putin, this is a john bolton op-ed and his headline is vladimir putin looked donald trump in the eye and lied to him. we negotiate with russia at our own peril. where are those conservative cold war hawks these days? locked outside the door when donald trump is talking to his chief, vladimir putin. right. joe, obviously a stunning thing that s happened with john bolton. i want to take it back to brett and tim because i think you re pointing to a very interesting divide among people who used to be called never trump republicans. isn t part of the flaw in your argument, potentially, that there doesn t seem to be any real effect. john bolton is there to moderate trump s tendencies towards putin doesn t this last week make you look up how am i affecting this policy in a positive way and isn t it better for the country as i think what brett i ll let you speak for yourself, for republicans and former never trump republicans, the country is in crisis. the government is not functioning. something is going on that s deeply disturbing between donald trump and vladimir putin and would be the argument for mike pompeo or dan coats, this is the moment where we need to stand together and act in unison to signal to the country that we re in a crisis moment now and we no longer have the ability to moderate donald trump s tendencies because he s giving away the store to putin for reasons we don t understand. you can t understand donald trump as a person behaves. he s a big child who is not containable. but the administration can. if you look how the administration has been vis-a-vis russia it hasn t been towards russia. it s trump the man in the room with putin that s the problem. they used to say that about reagan. i m tempted to say let trump be trump. we elected trump to be our president. he s the president. he deserves to have cabinet officers who will follow out his policies and his instincts and there are plenty of people there, i can imagine secretary of state tucker carlson, national security adviser, these are people with incredible ethical elasticity and they reflect and they are going to reflect the man. right now you have people consoling themselves with a lie which is okay pompeo and bolton, these guys are hawks and they will keep the president in check. the truth is we have an executive system of government in which the president has secretaries, we call them secretaries for a reason. purely administrative functions to carry out his policies. we re deceiving ourselves if we think putting in dan coats will moderate the policy. americans need to see what kind of government they really have. and yet if you look at the policies of this administration, if you look at what s actually been passed in congress with the sanctions, if you look at the statements of everybody around donald trump from u.n. ambassador nikki haley to vice president mike pence when he s not latherring president in praise, if you look at the people around donald trump who donald trump has appointed, they are, let s just say, harsher on russia than george h. w. bush or barack obama both were. the policies seemed to be harsher on russia than they were under bush or barack obama. and yet right at the center of this you have a man tweeting and making statements that actually make him look like he s an agent of an ex-kgb officer. it is hard for our allies to sort through, but to borrow ross perot s phrase if you look where the rubber meets the road, we do have some policies on russia that are fairly tough. well, when i talked to source they tell me you have to make the difference between what president trump is doing, his rhetoric, his actions, even his body language in the helsinki press conference which i attended and the actual policies of the united states which are tough on russia. the trump administration has expelled russian officials, closed consulates, not let up on the russian sanctions. there s this idea when i talk to people, i talk to the u.s. ambassador to nato, former ambassador to nato he told me all that was going on and nato allies will try to plan work around for the united states because they don t trust the united states under trump, the trump administration, the actual nuts and bolts of what came out of it is that the united states is not changing our relationship with nato, we re not taking out troops of any of the nato military operations, that said, being in that meeting, being in that press conference, it was happening in finland but could have been happening in russia. put spoke first. his body language at the beginning of the day was slumped in his chair. by the time the press conference came around he was standing up, smirking, felt he was the host. he was having a good time. that s what s worrying a lot of people. of course that 90-minute meeting that turned into two hour one-on-one session where intelligence communities are still trying to figure out what was said. that s what s scary about this. people who work for donald trump don t know what he gave away to vladimir putin. katty kay, these are such bizarre times where you have, again, you have donald trump bowing and scraping to an ex-kgb agent who maintains power through assassination, and tries to undermine tries to undermine american democracy and western democracies. but, again, you look at the administration s positions against russia and, you know, i m torn. first of all, because donald trump is so towards vladimir putin you know we have to have the toughest policies, the toughest sanctions possible against vladimir putin. at the same time when you take a step back you go well wait, at some point we need to start to actually start building a positive relationship with the russians. but it seems that donald trump s bowing and scraping actually gets in the way of us being able to have any constructive talks with the russians. yeah. this is the confusion surrounding u.s.-russian relationships at the moment. i spoke yesterday to bill browder, the american financier who was on that list that president putin wants to have interrogated, he led to the passing of that act and he was horrified at the idea that donald trump s gut in that meeting is to say that this is an incredible offer. this is where donald trump seems to want to come from to pacify vladimir putin, to agree with vladimir putin, to give in to vladimir putin on something so substantial as handing over americans and american-born people to be interrogated by russian officials. yet even he, even bill browder said when it comes to policies america is very tough at the moment on russia and the trump administration is actually being tougher on russia than the obama administration was. this is where the consfugs. if the trump administration will be so tough with these sanction w-the closing of consulates, with hitting people who are close to putin, some of the oligarchs close to putin why is it so hard for donald trump to then also say, as dan coats did and as chris wray, put was responsible for meddling in the u.s. election, nothing happens in russia without vladimir putin s say so and it must never happen again. russia is the aggressor here. we heard it from members of his government in the past 24 hours but yet he can t say it. almost like a personal thing with putin rather than a policy issue with russia itself. donnie, that s what is i mean that s what this past week has shown. we need to separate the personal from the policy and i know donald trump thinks the personal is the policy, but it s not. let s think about, again, just digging in this, digging into this, much more. we have a president who does look like he s owned by vladimir putin. looks that way. i don t think i don t think it is hard for anyone to deny it doesn t look like he s afraid of vladimir putin and vladimir putin has something on him. joe, he does. that said okay. he does. you and i know trump. we both believe that he does. in fact, i would bet an awful lot, bet a lot on that. so we have that fact, all right. now let s go the next step. but he s appointed people that actually are tough on russia. he s appointed john bolton, who even a year ago was calling putin a liar that you couldn t trust and you couldn t negotiate with. mike pompeo who has always been a conservative s conservative on iran and russia. dan coats, i mean that guy, a rock conservative from indiana, a senator. and he s throwing fastballs at putin s head. christopher wray, no fear. i mean christopher wray says what he believes, goes after it, says the russians are meddling. secretary mattis, secretary mattis, when donald trump was attacking nato, secretary mattis, what did he say? he said nato is so important that if it didn t exist we would have had to invent it. what do these five people have in common? they have many thing in common. one thing they have in common is donald trump appointed all of them. and they are all tough on russia and they are all speaking out with donald trump being obsequ everyone obsequitous. he could be appointing people who aren t conservatives who will do whatever donald trump tells him to do. sean hannity could be secretary of state. i mean you need to go down the list. there are a lot of craven people trying to undermine robert mueller s investigation. he could appoint them as attorney general. it is almost like he knows he can t. it s a tale of two cities. a tale of two administrations. what you re suggesting, it s a fascinating point. okay if we go on the premise and there s no other explanation. we can sit with learned folks and say why is he so subservient. well, obviously, he s owned. but then you punch a hole in that and go well if that s the case to your point why is he not surrounding himself with less hawkish people. he s doing a balancing act. at the end of the day i don t think i think on some level knows he loses his base. he loses who he is if he goes in it in a way. but but, but, but on a personal level he s just afraid of stepping over that one one-on-one boundary of it s me versus him or i ll say this personally about him because at the end of the day he is owned. our president despite the furkt point and this would put some kind of holes in that theory does surround himself with hawkish people. if you understand how this man has done business he s owned by our number one geopolitical enemy. i ll say it again. you say no. there s no other explanation. you can use the explanation he s concerned about the validity of his election. as joe pointed out he was doing this before the election. give me one other rational explanation. here s the rational explanation. he likes strong men. when he s talking about kim jong-un he was on voice of america with great jim vandehei sustern. he said kim jong-un feels warmly about the north korean he called him little rocket man at one point. grows praise for kim jong-un fits into the same category as the attitude towards putin as same attitude towards rodrigo duterte. these strong men dictators he buddies up to them. so erdogan and kim have stuff on him. he s a scmuck or a stooge. leads to the same conclusion. it s possible to think he has an ideological affinity for russia, a psychological affinity for strong men. at the end of the day you have a president who is determined to buck his advisers and seek a relationship with russia which is antithetical. he surrounded himself with russian hawks but to think the hawks are influencing him. he s transforming the nature and the ideology of the republican party, the number of republicans who take a dim view of vladimir putin is down since 2015. the number of republicans who approve of vladimir putin has more than doubled. but he s winning his way towards transforming the foreign policy of the party to what it used to be in the 1930s, cause quasi isolationist. and whether the explanation is a conspiracy theory or the fact that he simply is in love with strong men or that he s always liked russian, at the end of the day that s less interesting than what thele result is for u.s. foreign policy. well it s what i wrote yesterday, it doesn t really matter why donald trump is being obsequitous to vladimir putin. it will elect a lot of democrats in the fall and 2020. he transformed republicans on nato, transformed republicans on russia, transformed republicans on the very underpinning of our foreign policy that we conservatives have followed for the past 65, 70 years. certainly since william f. buckley founded national review. he s also cozied up to vladimir putin personally in a way that does, does tim carney, briefly, let me push back a little bit. does suggest that vladimir putin s relationship with donald trump is different than anybody else because as donnie pointed out he certainly was very critical of the little rocket man as he called kim jong-un, attacked him, threatened to bomb him, said his button was bigger than un s button. you ll snow other than stormy daniels there s no one in donald trump s three years in political life that has escaped his wrath other than put. can you not find one negative thing he said about vladimir putin even going back before election when he was on our show talking about how american soldiers in iraq killed a lot of people too so we could be critical of vladimir putin. the bottom line i agree with what brett said is that to some extent the explanation doesn t matter this attitude is bad and transforming the american people. again i ll point out that he, the fondness towards the strong man is universal and putin has been very turning to all sorts of leaders, bush and obama fell under his spell before they came out from under it. pitching one thing here. everything you said i agree with. there s obviously the impact brett talked about it. trump is transforming the republican party, transforming the american attitude, especially on what used to be the conservative side of the ideological spectrum towards russia but it stems me the bigger issue here is he s making the world more dangerous by attacking the western alliance, by attacking theresa may, by attacking angela merkel while at the same time providing sucker to vladimir putin, he s appreciably making the western alliance weaker and making the world more dangerous and that to me is the difference between yes kim jong-un is a dangerous guy. no doubt north korea and nuclear proliferation is a threat. rodrigo duterte is a different story. but the corner stone has been nato for the last 50 years. donald trump is taking a wrecking ball to nato while at the same time inviting vladimir putin to come to washington, d.c. two years after he undermined american democracy in the 2016 election. these things have consequences beyond the political consequences for the republican party, beyond american attitudes. this is making world more dangerous by the day. by the day, and one thing we haven t talked about enough this week has been what he said about montenegro, we would not defend montenegro if russia attacked montenegro. that send as message to putin not about montenegro but about estonia, other baltic states, about western ukraine. that sends the message to vladimir putin that the president of the united states will not show resolve and if he wants to invade more countries as he did under george h. w. bush and under barack obama, he can start invading countries under donald trump because andrea mitchell let s bring in michigan right now who had quite an eventful interview with the director of national intelligence. but you remember back to the lead up to the first gulf war, where saddam hussein misread some things american diplomats said and he took it as a green light to invade kuwait. now you have donald trump we re not going to defend montenegro if they are invade. the baltic leaders had to be shaking after hearing those words because it gives putin a green light to roll the tanks. exactly. and, in fact, the russians and forgive my voice, there s a lot of pollen out here this morning, the russians had, you know, tried a coup attempt in montenegro. montenegro signal was really important. i ve spoken to two former nato ambassador, joe, that s another way where putin is undercutting nato and donald trump is playing right into his hands. so tell us about dan coats yesterday, what an extraordinary interview, and you also had, i guess, the good fortune or bad fortune to deliver very bad news to the director of national intelligence and that is even before the president of the united states had cleaned up just the collection of messes that he created in helsinki, he s now ready for round two but this time in washington, d.c. talk about dan coats reaction. it was certainly not my intention to surprise the national security the national intelligence adviser. i felt, first of all, that he was trying very hard to stay within his lane, to not speak policy, but to be true to the assessment which he said they had redone since 2017 repeatedly and had come to the same conclusion, anders being very clear that the russians did it, the russians are still doing it, and that vladimir putin is in charge. and i think he was even more determined to be clear about that because at the same conference only hours earlier, kirstjen nielsen interviewed by peter alexander here, had made it very unclear, she s head of homeland security, in charge of protecting the mid-term elections and she refused to say that it was the russians or that it was clearly to help donald trump, which was part of that intelligence assessment. so there s a lot of clarity required from dan coats and he and chris wray and later rod rosenstein, later in the evening with absolutely being specific about that. they were determined to stand firmly behind the intelligence agencies and the fbi, and to support their troops and keep politics out of it. as much as they could even though they had been under fire now for 18 months or more. and that i think is the message that dan coats was trying to deliver. yeah. all right andrea mitchell, thank you so much for being on this morning. absolutely remarkable times and we ll be watching your show at noon right here on msnbc. thanks. brett stevens and tim carney, thank you as well. fascinating discussion and still ahead on morning joe, our next guest was one of the democrats who broke out in a chant of usa, usa on the house floor, congressman tim deutsche explains what inspired that after republicans deep sixed a plan to make american democracy safer. yeah, explain that one in your next town hall meeting. morning joe will be right back. little things can be a big deal. that s why there s otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it s a pill that treats psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months, . with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don t use if you re 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women by 25 points while men are going to opposite direction voting republican by eight points. and you dig into those numbers a little bit more and what s really fascinating is that a lot of that shift in the gender gap is being driven by millennials in particular. so you have the pew poll that has republicans leading, you know, among men by three points and a massive 44 point pro democratic vote among women which is unprecedented. what s the impact on districts, the districts we re all looking at? obviously the ones hillary clinton won the presidential race but still have republican members of congress there. well, i think on a district by district basis, you re not going to see a huge amount of impact, simply because unless you have districts that have a higher proportion of millennials that, you know, in the aggregate are shifting towards the democrat. but across all the districts obviously the genders are evenly split regardless of where you go. but what i think it will do for democrats, it s going to put a big fat target on those voters if you re moving particularly millennial women that are moving so decisively and going to make it easier for democrats at least to identify those voters. so, talk about let s forget about what s going to happen in the next couple of months, let s talk about generational shifts. we see this from time to time. i m an old guy so when i was in high school a lot of younger voters shocked pollsters and shocked pundit when is my older brother and my older sister and a lot of younger voters went for reagan. and you actually saw a generational shift from younger voters being democratic to younger voters being republican. you can t look at those numbers and not think, for instance, what you ve been saying and what others have been saying, that this is sort of, to borrow dan coats term, a blinking red light for republicans here and that is that they could lose a generation of millennial women. that s right. and you do see over time, you know, those young voters who came of age under reagan are more republican today and you see this repeated time and time again. people do move throughout their lifetimes but shaped by those experiences of voting your first three or four times, your viewpoints do tend to be locked in. but i think that there s i genuinely do think there s opportunity for both sides here. and i think one thing to really take a look at is you may be seeing a little bit of a shift among younger millennial nonwhite voters. the reason i say that is nonwhites are 44% of the millennial vote now. they are growing as a share. you look at the shift among young men there hasn t been much of a pro democratic shift. you look at the voter files, some of the large scale panel studies that have been done, the most popular, you know, trump doesn t do very well among african-american voters overall but his most popular position is with the young men where, you know, republicans are nearing about 20% of the vote, where we re used to talking about republicans being in single digits with that category of voters. so i do think there are potential shifts on both sides happening and i think particularly as we talk about gender, we don t talk enough about how both sides can shift. you know, we talk about how, you know, women, you know, potentially are moving away from the republican party. but what we could be seeing is simply both sides kind of pulling apart from each other for the same reasons. all right. we love having you on. thank you so much for being with us. now to the moment on the house floor after house republicans voted down a democratic effort to increase election security funding. we have sworn an oath to defend our constitution and our liberty the gentleman s time has expired. against all enemies foreign and domestic. the gentleman s time has expired. you have an opportunity to do that today. do so. vote yes on this amendment for your country. [ chanting usa ] with us now, a member of the foreign affairs and judiciary committees, democratic congressman ted deutsche of florida. congressman, what happened with that vote yesterday, and why did republicans vote against a bill to fund election security and republicans will say we have our own version of that bill that will protect election security just as much as the democrats. well, thanks. first of all, no, they are not going to say they have their own bill. there s no good answer for the fact that every republican in the house of representatives voted yesterday against additional funding for election security in a vote that took place at the end of a week when the president started the week by showing that he was with putin instead of with america and a week after, just a week after the indictment came down that showed the extent of this hacking and what the russians were trying to do. what the response, the pathetic response, i must say, to this language that would have added funding to go to our states, to help prevent cyber attacks from the russians, the response from my republican colleagues we shouldn t be doing that. if we want to protect our elections we need to pass more voter i.d. laws. it s tone deaf. unpatriotic. inexplicable. i heard you earlier, good luck going home and trying to sflien your constituents why the week that we saw the president on stage with putin, the week we discussed their efforts to attack our democracy and the way they did attack our democracy we want nothing to do to prevent it from happening again. we talked this morning what the democrats message could and should be this coming fall and 2020. a lot of republicans favor dealing with put. why do you think this is so important. is this an issue guys can run on? sure. we re not going to run on election security and funding for it. but in the big picture, look, what s the message. people proud americans want to be proud of their government. they are not proud of this government. that s not true just for democrats, it s true for republicans too. it s true because of the way the president talks about women, the numbers, the discussion about millennial women. who are surprised that millennial women don t like the president given the way he talks about women. it s true when they look at the president standing on stage people want to be proud and know the president is standing up for our national security not standing on stage looking like someone who is a pawn for vladimir putin. i want to ask you something. of course, i felt actually emotional felt something on the usa, usa. what i was talking about before and what the message needs be. it s a vote for democracy, a vote for freedom. going back to what patrick said. i couldn t agree with him more. it s about the women. do you an ad that says to a young millennial woman this is what your grandmother fought for, fight for your granddaughter, this is what we stand for. it s not about voting but that emotion that happened in congress yesterday if you can gin that up in the base and you don t trash trump and don t talk about how he treats women, it s just about who we are, that s what i saw happening with the congress yesterday. i know people are cynical about politics. and i understand that a lot of people will watch that and think it s just for show. but there is this sense of patriotism. you saw it. some of my republican colleagues realized what was going on and jumped to their feet. it s impossible not to want to stand up right now at this moment for our democracy. i agree with you. standing for our democracy, making sure that our votes will be protect really matters, but also donnie, those same women also care about the fact that this president is tearing dprids their parents at the border. that vote natures. they care about the fact that the administration is hell bent on taking away health care coverage for people with pre-existing conditions. all of that matters the home. it comes from these deep places of patriotism and frustration. you talk about people being cynical. there are people that look at that video and say this is grandstanding from democrats who want to make a show because they couldn t pass the bill. what s the plan now going forward as president trump s supporters are following him. they are saying put should be someone we re close to. what are democrats going to do now if you don t have the votes to pass legislation? well, first of all, it s really important to point out i don t know i think that assertion that republicans are falling in line behind the president on his relationship with vladimir putin, not from what i ve seen and if you look at the tweets i was talking about trump supporters. sure. i saw also those polls a lot of trump supporters think the president is right on. i won try to convince everyone that when the president stands on stage and seems to care more about vladimir putin, and be there to do his bidding instead of standing up for american national security, i can t convince everyone. i know that the overwhelming majority of people watched the president on stage and were horrified by what they saw. i m going to continue we ll continue to talk to those people and what we need to do to address this issue. we ll look back on this summer, i m convinced, we ll look back on this summer in history and the way the president did the work of vladimir putin, not just standing next to him but he attacked the g7. he went to nato attacked nato. he stood up and attacked our allies specifically. he attacked the eu. that s what vladimir putin wants him to do. it s not about having a good relationship with russia. it s not even just about sanctions. we imposed sanctions. we dragged the president kicking and screaming to do it but we imposed sanctions. when we imposed sanctions and the president goes into a closed door meeting with vladimir putin, has some conversation that we have no idea that the director of national intelligence has no idea what it was b-thatabout, that s somethi everyone is nervous about. everyone understands the threat it provides. congressman, thank you for being with us. of course the congressman would like us to let everybody in his know, no relation to donnie. still ahead on morning joe this. we re definitely cousins. a lot of child psychologists said publicly this amounts to child abuse. is this child abuse being imposed, enforced by the american government? i think that we have 2,000 children who need our care in term of being reunited with their parents and we re working very hard on doing that. that s the secretary of homeland security, kirstjen nielsen speaking with peter alexander in aspen. up next we ll be bringing in jay job whose early reporting on the government s child separation policy pulled back the curtain on the crisis and you heard the secretary say there, 2,000 children are still separated from their parents. we ll dig more into that when morning 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not be able to be reunited at all, ever. i m glad you got to have a vacation i m serious when i say the trauma you witnessed when you were first covering this story. so what happens now? my thing has been we have to stay on the story. you are back from vacation and on this story, not let up, you ve listen relentless. how do we continue to bring accountability? the courts are trying. how do we continue to try to bring accountability and when i say we, the democratic republic here. we have to hammer it every single day and i m grateful to our network that this is my job now. this is what i focus on day in and day out. we talk about 2,551 kids, we should not rest until every single one of those kids is accounted for. we know right now there are hundreds according to the government but no specifics of parents that have been released from i.c.e. custody but we don t know where they are and how they will be reunited. there are subsets of information that we need to ask questions just like we did when we are down there, where are the little girls and the toddlers. what happens to the parents already released, what happens to the parents already deported with their families, because the aclu is concerned the due process rights of these asylum seeker were completely violated and booted out of the country or may yet immediately after they re reunified. tons of different questions we keep asking. i m grateful you re on this. keep asking those questions. the white house has been lying for weeks talking about how the parents will be reunified with all the children several weeks ago. there are 2,500 short and as you said, tragically, some of the parents may never be reunited with their children. jacob soboroff thanks for being with us. keep up the great work. still ahead, the president answers the scrutiny of the summit with vladimir putin by inviting vladimir putin to the white house. that s going to be happening this fall. plus, new comments from the president about what happens 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mess that he created when he went to helsinki, and cowtowed to an ex-kgb agent he rushes to announce that vladimir putin is coming to washington. before cleaning up the last mess on aisle seven, what s your take? you know, it s interesting, joe, you use the t word and at the beginning of the week a lot of democrat, a lot of people were using it. all of a sudden maybe that was too hard. i don t think it s extreme to treason, adhering to their enemies giving them aid and comfo comfort. i think trump, like a petulant child in any time he s rebuked about anything his response is to double first to walk it back and walk back the walk back and to double down. just putting it in our faces, putting it in american s faces, and i, as a branding guy, i have no trepidation at all about assigning that treason word. it is no different than had somebody attacked the united states with missiles, when you attack our voting system, actually you re doing more harm to us, because once you destroy that process, our democracy is over. if you have an election, we can t believe in it, that is an act of war in any way, sense or form, and we have a treasonous president who now put it in our face in finland, now going to bring it to our own shores and as jonathan swann talked about the fact that 80% of republicans think he behaved okay, gave him a stamp of approval, your ex-party, joe, and you wrote about it yesterday in washington post, shame on these pathetic, whimpering cowards. yeah, yeah. i wrote about it yesterday, who are these people and what have they done to my party. 08% of americans think it s okay to cower before an ex-kgb agent, to insult allies. you do wonder, this isn t just a donald trump problem now. this is a problem with the party cast wide, and really quickly, before we move on to the first script, john heilemann, this is something that we really need to talk about, because i personally believe it changes not only the face of the republican party, but in the long run, destroys the republican party, that you have treason was used by so many people, criticizing donald trump, even the wall street journal said that congress needed to pass a containment plan not only for putin, but also for donald trump. you had the president of the united states doing vladimir putin s bidding, exactly what he wanted him to do, attacking nato, attacking theresa may, attacking germany, attacking angela merkel, attacking all of our closest allies. again, as we re hearing just about every night, it seems, on russian tv, commentateors in russia shocked saying we couldn t succeed this well in the cold war, now donald trump s doing all of our work for us. but what is a long-term impact of the republican party now who not only is embracing vladimir putin and embracing vladimir putin s agenda, which is to destroy nato, and disrupt elections, but now they re also, i think i saw somebody last night quoted a pew poll that 37% of republicans support tariffs and protectionism, which again is a complete reversal that will have impact on the long run in this party. i think the corruption and bankruptcy of the republican party has been a long time in the making. there is no way you d defend what the republican party stood for in the world war ii era. it has become the party of donald trump, so in a thorough way we ve seen this not just in the startling polling in relation to how republicans have, rather than to chastise him, to criticize him for russia s role in meddling in the american election, he s giving him the ultimate kind of cherry on some of the sundae, this is the thing a russian president would want most of all, to get, especially in this week john, as it goes to republicans, rank and file republicans say 75%, 80% saying they liked what he did in helsinki. his closest allies in the media said he was treasonous or a complete dupe. who are the people i grew up that were the most, the toughest on russia that fought the cold war alongside with nato, when the soviet s goal during the cold war is the same goal that vladimir putin has now, which is to disrupt western democracies and break up nato. the goal is identical to what republicans supported. you talk about trade. 73% are telling pollsters they think tariffs are good for america? who are these people? political body snatchers. these are the people who now are the republican party. the people you think of as having constituted the republican party in your life growing up with the party, they are now either no longer in the party or they are in a kind of weak and craving way sitting on the sidelines and wringing their hands over what donald trump has done to the party. some of them are speaking out, some of them are not. as david ignatius said over the course of the week as i watched from vacation, could you feel the fabric of the presidency ripping and you can hear there are more republicans speaking out. it s not nearly as much as you might respect but there are more who are speaking out but the rank and file of the party now, the grassroots of the republican party are people who believe what donald trump believes and not what you believe, and not what republicans believed in the post world war ii era. they don t believe in free trade, don t believe in immigration, don t believe in standing up to russian, previously soviet expansionism, they don t believe in nato. that s not what the republican party is anymore. to answer your question, i don t know what happens. as you pointed out many times over the course of the last 18 months, there will be a period after donald trump, whether that s in fewer than a couple years from now, where donald trump gets his first term is forestalled, whether donald trump makes it through one term but gets beaten or whether he gets a re-election, at some point, there will be a life after donald trump and then the republican party is going to look up and say, what are we? what have we become and does that lead to ia fundamental redefinition of the political party structures. they are going to look at their election results and ask the question, what have we done and why did we sit by and allow this to happen the which it did. susan delpercio, i m just curious. if you go to a lincoln reagan dinner, used to just be lincoln dinners where republicans would every year usually january, february, march have their big fund-raising dinner and invite a speaker. if you go to a lincoln reagan dinner you re talking to rank and file, if you believe these polls, talking to rank and file that no longer believe in tree trade. okay, so i guess what i said at lincoln reagan dinners about free trade i couldn t say anymore if i were still a republican. you talk about balancing the budgets, and reducing the debt. boy, one of the biggest expansions in deficits in debt spending in the history of our country, history of the world, so i couldn t talk about that. you talk about standing up to an expansionist russia, being tough, not leading from behind. you talk about your alliances with, you know, nato. these are the things that we talked about that s right. for 50 years, not me for 50 years but at least for two decades, and you could go to every reagan lincoln dinner across america, lincoln reagan dinner across america, and you could say the same thing wherever you went, and you d get the applause. now according to these polls it s not a split. now 80% of americans are fine with donald trump s cowtowing to an ex-kgb agent who wants to destroy our allies and disrupt their elections and now they support tariffs. what the hell who the hell are these people? what is wrong with these republicans? where has the party not of my youth, but of my early 50s gone? it s gone, joe, and it s really difficult. i was reading your column this morning, and i, too, said like where is my party? i don t recognize it, and i could have gone to a lincoln day dinner even a year ago or two years ago and heard those things. it has happened so quickly. let s not forget, we did have strong republicans running for president for 2016. donald trump did beat them, and you know what, jeb bush legitimate. is a legitimate strong candidate. marco rubio you may not have agreed with their policies, however, they were strong republicans and they were beaten by the personality of donald trump at that point. the policies of donald trump are now is what has defeated the republican party, and that is putting us in a very difficult situation, and personally, i think if we don t start to see republican organizations setting up the field for 2020 to open it up for a conservative republican to run, or just a principled republican, i ll leave it at that, then we are going to see this party dive way deeper. still ahead on morning joe after a long and careful night of deliberation, the white house has decided it s not a good idea to hand over a former american diplomat to a hostile foreign power. that s a decision the senate was a lot quicker in making. we ll talk about it with democrat mark warner. but first here s michelle grossman with a check on the forecast. michelle? thanks so much, joe. the storms that came through the midwest yesterday have moved off to the east so this is what we re watching today, strong storms, the possibility for some tornadoes, some large hail and also some flooding conditions. watch that throughout the afternoon. otherwise we re looking at a beautiful day in the northeast, picture perfect, lots of sunshine, low humidity, that will change drastically later on saturday into sunday, watching a coastal low that will bring as many rounds of rain until the beginning of next week and very hot once again, triple digit heat, 106 in oklahoma city. san antonio 102 and the same story throughout sunday so your weekend outlook, record temperatures in the south, pacific northwest looking nice. you re watching morning joe. we ll be right back. how can we say when you book direct at choicehotels.com 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russia, just for today, rejecting vladimir putin s offer to allow the united states investigators to question 1 russians indicted for election meddling, in exchange for the u.s. agreeing to let moscow investigate americans. it is a proposal that was made in sincerity by president putin, made in sincerity? i think it was cynical, but president trump disagrees with it. hopefully president putin will have the 12 identified russians come to the united states to prove their innocence or guilt. the statement s claim that president trump disagrees with it, that is in direct contrast to what trump initially said, calling it an incredible offer, and sanders saying that the white house was considering the proposal. we would expect that the americans would reciprocate and they would question officials, including the officers of law enforcement and intelligence services of the united states, whom we believe are, who have something to do with illegal actions on the territory of russia. what he did is an incredible offer. he offered to have the people working on the case come and work with their investigators, with respect to the 12 people. i think that s an incredible offer. the president s going to neat with his team and we ll let you know when we have an aunnoment on that. reporter: is that a topic that came up in their conversation, did president putin raise this with president trump? there was some conversation about it, but there wasn t a commitment made on behalf of the united states, and the president will work with his team and we ll let you know if there s an announcement on that front. you know, cady kaye, let s strip this down and be honest about it, no american unless they were a dupe for vladimir putin would think that turning a former russian ambassador over to russian investigators, especially an ambassador who had been kicked out of russia because he spoke out too forcefully against vladimir putin s abuses, no red-blooded american would think that was an incredible offer, but donald trump did think it was an incredible offer. sarah huckabee sanders said that he had to think about it a day later, and now we have this reversal yet again. i m sure they ll change tomorrow, but what do you make of the back-and-forths on turning americans over to russians? this was never going to happen. you were never going to turn over a former ambassador, a u.s.-born financier to help implement the act, a bunch of senate staffers who helped draw up american law, these are all the people putin wanted. what was president trump thinking during the course of that two-hour meeting? what was it putin said to him? how did he communicate with him, that seemed to win donald trump over, so that when he came out of that meeting, his initial instinct, his gut reaction was to say yeah, this is an incredible offer. i think this is a great idea. i think as we head into the prospect, because one was not enough, why not have a second one, of that second putin meeting, you ve got intelligence officials now scrambling to find out what else donald trump may have agreed to, what did he give away? what were the verbal commitments? you have russian officials and president putin saying we came out of helsinki, got these agreements, looking forward to working on them and the head scratching going on in washington particularly in the defense community saying we don t know what our president may have just committed this country to, and now we have the prospect of a second meeting as well. it begs belief, it s extraordinary. coming up on morning joe another bipartisan warning shot to the president. last week the senate voted 97- 2 to support nato and yesterday voted 98-0 to deny putin s ability to question american officials. there s something finally changing on capitol hill. we ll ask the top democrat on the house intel committee senator mark warner straight ahead on morning joe. sometimes, bipolar i disorder can make you feel unstoppable. but mania, such as 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out, i ll be the worst enemy he s ever had, the worst he s ever had. that was president trump in his new interview with cnbc that aired this morning. we have the vice chairman of the intelligence committee, democratic senator mark warner of virginia. it s interesting, the president is talking about the media, the idiots in the media. lot of those actually work at rupert murdoch-backed media outlets and i guess donald trump is calling rupert murdoch an idiot, calling rupert murdoch the purveyor of fake news because you had the wall street journal, fox news, the new york post attacking the president for being putin s p s patsy, putin s poodle. the most surprising things and i want to get your reaction if you agreed with the wall street journal editorial page that congress needs to implement a containment policy, not only for vladimir putin, but for donald trump. well, joe, there are a number of us who warned about this. we said why would you send in donald trump who prides himself on not doing any preparation against a trained kgb agent, 18 years as leader of his country. we would come in prepped and i was terrified and i think this may have been what happened, putin will come in with facts, with details, might have come in with a map of ukraine and syria and trump got played, he got played for a fool and he embarrassed our country and frankly embarrassed lots of my colleagues across the board, democrats, republicans alike, so we are going to need to figure out ways to put some constraints. we took some actions this past week, past two weeks, reinforcement from nato, that didn t do much in terms of trump s approach to nato. we sent out a message saying no way you re going to turn over american diplomats to russian officials, that was unanimous but i say that builds upon our senate intelligence committee s work that has reinforced the intelligence community s conclusion that not only did the russians intervene in our elections, but they intervened to help trump and hurt clinton, and that unanimous agreement from our senate intel committee has also been reinforced by facebook, by twitter, by google who all acknowledged russians misuse their platform, so i wonder why mr. trump continues to be willing to kind of cowtow to this autocrat. does he not understand our allies in europe are not only defense allies but allies in democracies in terms of belief in a free press, one person, one vote, open society, all things that putin frankly stands against taken stairs the dickens out of me it seems like trump continues to side with putin. and of course, in that press conference again, donald trump is talking about how tough he was standing next to vladimir putin, but the fact was that he undercut his intelligence community. he said that he didn t think that, had no reason to believe that vladimir putin had interfered with the 2016 elections, and that s something that, again, going back to media outlet that is seen as an ally of donald trump, rupert murdoch s new york post attacked him for taking a see no evil approach. joe, if you just think is that a fair characterization? i think it s a fair characterization, because there were no shades of gray here. this was a very weak performance by donald trump, cowtowing to a russian leader. think about this in historical context. if john f. kennedy had said and accepted khrushchev s allegation there were no missiles in cuba the country and the world would have been very different. if ronald reagan said to then soviet leader gorbachev, hey, keep the wall, you figure out when you want to reform your own country, our world would be different. america has been the leader of the west standing up to soviet and russian aggression, that all in many ways disappeared this past monday. john heilemann? my question for you, senator warren, is two-fold. the first fold is, what does it say to you that, given what president trump now says about his grudging acceptance of the intelligence community s assessment of what happened in 2016 that he is now in the same weak turned around and offered not punishment but a reward to vladimir putin by giving him a summit in washington, d.c., and second, what can we do to find out what else those two leaders talked about in the two hours without anybody else but interpreters present? let s take both those. one, i think it s outrageous that the president is rewarding putin with another meeting before the election, particularly since dan coats and other intelligence community leaders and for that matter the social media platforms indicated the russians will be back. they were successful in 2016, in terms of sowing disarray in our electoral process, and the fact that in a normal administration with this kind of threat there would be somebody in the white house designated on election security, somebody designated to work bet we are social media companies to make sure we re protected against the misinformation and disinformation, that s not happening. we re trying to do that in a bipartisan way out of our senate intel committee but that s a huge ongoing concern, and then the notion that he was willing or was going to at least think about the idea of turning over an american diplomat to russian authorities, it s just you don t need to think about that. that s a straight out no, unacceptable, particularly when we, the work that bob mueller has done with the 12 russian agents, russian spies, gru agents that we ve got documentation on those individuals, yes, we need to pursue them. i m not sure that putin s going to actually turn them over to us, but it is a warning signal that the russians were successful in 2016 and every indication is they ll be back in 2018 and my feeling is again, this president s getting played. senator, it s jonathan lam e lamiere. there are concerns what the president may have said in the private meeting with president putin. the only other people there were interpreters. there s been an idea suggested a subpoena may be issued to the translators to get them to testify as to what they heard, but that of course is not their skill set. it s a real time thing, they re translating, they re not taking notes, they re not necessarily the most reliable witnesses, so i want to get your take, why do you think that would be effective, is it appropriate and what sort of precedent might it set going forward for future one on one summits between not just this president but future presidents and other leaders which is something that happens from time to time. no, you re right. there have been one on one meetings between russian leaders and american presidents in the past, but generally those american presidents go in prepped, prepared. they have their teams, they think about the meetings with advanced warning and i think there is a, yes, if the translator can testify or present their version of what s happened, i think we need to get that, because this is such an extraordinary case. i also think we need a read-out from mike pompeo, jon huntsman from other members of the president s team who were there. again, i feel somewhat bad for some of the intelligence community leaders all what accepted that russian intervened like dan coats and the cia director and the fbi director, the nsa director, but then this president constantly undercuts them by his behavior and performance not only in helsinki, but what s equally embarrassing is performance after the fact. senator, donny deutsch, nice to chat with you. in the backdrop you re at the opportunity 2020 conference, democratic leaders getting together to kind of shape where the party is going in 2020, we were talking about messaging earlier. i have a concern when i see kind of the front-runner presidential face is the bernie sanders, elizabeth warrens, what happened in one of the new york congressional districts there s a tendency for the party to really lean hard, hard, hard left, which i think is an electoral mistake. i d love your thoughts on where you d see this going and what 2020 is trying to do. donny, i think that we need to get out of this false choice of red versus blue, or left versus right. i think our politics and the insecurity that donald trump has played so well upon is because people are uncertain about the future, globalization, technology, automation. i think the democrats have got to be willing to lean in to the future. those issues are not going away. the democrats ought to be the party that says we want to give everybody in this country an opportunity to earn a good life, and so that means we need to address not only why trump is bad and i think people disagree with trump, i think they agree with democratic values in terms of immigration, in terms of fairness, but i think we also have an economic theory that says, yes, we have to address economic inequality, and there are ways we can do that through the government, also ways we can do that in terms of rewarding businesses that look for long-term value rather than short term. we need to look at a tax code that says if you buy a computer, that s an asset, you invest in a human being that s a cost so we got to think business and government action together. i think we ought to look at economic insecurity, which i think is one of the great unspoken questions. nobody s going to work for the same job for 35 years the way my dad did, yet we had a social contract that basically said the only way you re going to get benefits is if you work full time. third of the american workforce today doesn t work full time. they work part-time, independent contractors, we need a new social contract that basically is built upon portal benefits and finally we need to realize there s a crisis of opportunity in this country. parts of this country, new york, boston, san francisco, they re doing great, but something is wrong when 75% of all the venture capital goes to three states, massachusetts, california, and new york, and when less than 1% of the venture capital, and i used to be a venture capitalist goes to african americans that is going to present a crisis of opportunity. begot wide swathes of prosperity but 2000 of the 3,000 counties in america have not seen a net job increase in the last ten years. democrats ought to be about spreading that opportunity, economic insecurity, yes taking on economic inequality but it s going to take a forward-leaning and frankly pro-growth agenda to do that and i might add along the way, something i ve spent a lot of time on recently the questions around national security, america just spent $713 billion on a defense budget, largest ever. russia spent $67 billion. i sometimes wonder are we buying the world s best 20th century military in terms of planes, tanks, trucks, when we ve seen that conflict in the 21st century particularly with near peer adversaries like russia and china, they are our peers in the recommend of cyber and disinformation. we need a national security agenda for the 21st century. senator 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( ) i m a four-year-old ring bearer with a bad habit of swallowing stuff. still won t eat my broccoli, though. and if you don t have the right overage, you could be paying for that pricey love band yourself. so get an allstate agent, and be better protected from mayhem. like me. can a ring bearer get a snack around here? as you know we inherited quite a budget crunch from president trump. how bad is it? we re broke. that was part of an episode of the simpsons that actually aired 18 years ago in march of 2000 when the simpsons correctly predicted a donald trump presidency. during a 2016 interview, simpsons writer dan greenie called the scene a warning to america. well, we recently sat down with one of the original writers of the longest running animated sitcom of all-time, mike reiss. he s the author of the new book springfield confidential: jokes, secrets and outright lies from a life time of writing for the simpsons. we begin our conversation talking about the number of predictions that his show has gotten right. didn t you guys predict if fox was going to buy disney? oh my gosh. disney would buy fox and we predicted the u.s. would win the gold medal in curling but that s it. you got three things right in 30 years. get one thing right every decade and that makes us some of the best psychics in america. pretty darned good. so talk about the book, the extraordinary run, and the fact that my 10-year-old and i, and we pull mika into this, too, can select from, you know, 30 seasons of simpsons. who could have believed when you started i guess tracy ullman show that 30 years later you re still here. nobody saw it coming. nobody saw it coming and in fact, i tell the story too much that two weeks before the show came on the air, we were sitting in our writer s trailer because fox wouldn t even commit to a realment radio, so we re in a trailer and if the show failed they were planning to back the trailer up to the ocean and drown us all. i said how long do you think the show is going to last, and everybody said six weeks. and we had made 13, so we never even thought they d show everything we made. so we re in our 1500th week right now, and wow. it s still i think the number one, number two show on fox. so what happened? when did you realize, hey, wait a second this is my life. this is craze why i here. it was funny, we had a premiere party the night the show debuted in a bowling alley. again, this is how much faith fox had in us, we re in a bowling alley and they showed the show on these monitors where you usually see your score and everyone is sitting there going, hey, this is pretty good. none of us realized until that moment the show was any good, and then they came in with the reviews from all over the country, and they said the critics figured it out. they said this is a game changer. we go, wow, and then the next morning, we found out we had debuted to the highest ratings in the history of the fox network. so it really took a half hour before we took america. it was a slow struggle. so much animated comedy now, mike, that it s easy to forget that what you guys did was revolutionary and people didn t maybe get the concept at first that you were going to have cartoon characters, we re used to being sweet, cuddly people but in this razor sharp edged comedy. it was kind of a step off the cliff at that moment. it sure was, yeah. again, i got the call to do the job from sam simon, one of the creators, and i said, you don t know me? why are you calling me? he said because everyone else has turned this job down. and that was it. it was supposed to be a summer job, and i didn t tell anyone what i was doing. i thought, i have hit rock bottom, and so we just had fun. i think it may be be sort of th- that s sort of the key. nothing to lose. swing for the fences. we said no one s going to see this so let s just fill it with the kind of stuff we want to see on tv. we ll never get this chance again. run through some of the people who were sitting in that writer s room. we had conan o brien there. that s about it. you wouldn t have heard about any of the other 99 people who have written for the show. conan o brien and craig daniels who created the office and king of the hill. mostly it s just a bunch of guys you never heard of. i have officially become the most famous writer ever for the simpsons by being here. answer the question, where is springfield? okay. springfield, right here. dad, it s over here. hey, what you doing? nobody watches this show, right, so i can tell you, because it s a closely guarded secret. we know and the answer is springfield is in hawaii. what? no. it s nowhere. it s like it s everywhere but nowhere. it s ohio. we chose the name because there are 48 springfields in america. in 43 states. which means five states have two springfields. is there one or two episodes that stand out to you? you know, there s two years i didn t work on the show. two years i went off and which seasons? seasons six and seven i think. those were great years. the best years. the show is so much better without me. no. so there s one, there s a halloween show i really love. we did 3-d homer in it and that was pretty exciting. it was funny because the software to do that caused $750,000 at the time. and now it s a free app. that was a good one. and i don t know, i like the one certainly when we had thomas pinchen on the show. we had him on twice. a guy who won t be interviewed, won t be photographed. he came on our show twice because he said i got to do something to impress my kids. so what do you like about homer? homer s a comedy writer s dream. he s got everything wrong with him. he s fat. he s bald. he s stupid. he s angry. he s drunk. he s lazy. i think he s got all seven deadly sins. and then season four, we had him walk into a pet shop and the pet shop owner goes oh, my, what is that smell? ooh, it s you. one of the writers goes, i guess he smells now too. i got to say, my favorite the seven deadly sins. yes. i think my favorite moment, and it is impossible because, again, we ve seen them all, and my sons have seen them all. i think my favorite moment was when homer sold his soul to the devil for a doughnut. ahh! now, remember, the instant you finish it, i own your soul for but devtle says he immediately goes to hell and he s chained to a conveyer belt and the devil goes, oh, you like doughnuts do you, and he presses the button and of course, you know, it s supposed to be and he keeps eating the doughnuts. and then it s like 30 minutes later and the devil s looking, like, basically forget it. this always works. and, like, he ran out of doughnuts. that is home e er simpson. what do you think about marge? she s great. bart? bart is the guy all the writers wish they were in school. they wish they had been bart but they were all little lisas who were too smart and had no friends and then one day they grew up and they re homer. never had a bart phase. and poor lisa, talk about lisa. lisa s the heart and soul of the show. is she really? yes. you consider her the heart and soul of the show? absolutely. oh, my gosh, you don t see that? that was very early in the run of the show. james l. brooks came to me and my partner and said, i have a plot for an episode you got to write. we go, great, what is it? lisa is sad. that was a great use of the animated medium. but we did that episode and it changed the series. that s where people sort of woke up and said oh, this show can touch my heart. maggie. maggie. it hit me the other day, if the show if the characters age like real people, maggie would be a 31-year-old people who never talks. so she d be jared kushner. oh. it s like a brilliant mind. there s no reason to think about the end of this show because it s still going strong but have you guys talked over the years about how you might end the simpsons? we ve been talking about it for 29 years. it s no joke to say nobody s ever had a good idea. i think it s one reason the show keeps running is because we don t know how to end it. no one has had one good suggestion for it. wow. so william shatner was the first celebrity to refuse? yes. would not do self-parody? would not. now he is self-parody. and springsteen also a holdout? yes, springsteen is the guy we go after year after year, he always says no. george lucas? there s three celebrities who asked to be on the show and then we wrote them a part and they turned it down. george lucas was the best part. where we had him hanging around with comic book guy and he was always talking about star wars but he didn t seem to really know the film. and he s always saying that s hilarious. the comic book guy, he says, you and me, we re like the guys in my movie, you know, the guy in the vest and the big dog. so, you know, mike, perhaps the greatest simpsons fan despite the fact i ve seen every one, is our executive producer alex, who i can actually say we need a clip from like i think it was the eighth season and he ll immediately go, oh, yeah. so alex, we haven t i don t know we ve done this before but you ve got to ask a couple of questions to mike because you are our simpsons super computer. oh, boy. well, put me on the spot. so the simpsons movie. any talk of a sequel there? there s no talk of it. it was so hard to do the first one. they d been asking us for 15 years to do a simpsons movie and we kept saying no, no, no. we said what can we show people that we can t show them on tv? and finally we said, oh, bart s wiener. so we did that. we got nothing left. i think sooner or later, yes, we ll make another one, but there s no plans. okay. i got one more. to make it a little bit on the political side of things. there s been a lot of discussion about apoo s character and the appropriateness, the mocking. any thoughts? there s a documentary out i think on netflix now about the problem with apoo. it s a great documentary. but it s about three years too late because we became aware of it three years ago. and we did a whole episode addressing it. we had an indian character come on. you are ashamed of me? who has been as loyal to you. that s exactly what i m talking about. you re my uncle and i love you but you re a stereotype. then we retired apoo. there s all these complaints. he hasn t been on the show for three years. we put him out to pasture. no one seems to notice. the documentary is like making a documentary saying val kilmer shouldn t play batman anymore. it s like nobody s asking. by the wait, apoo did bring mccartney to the simpsons. for 20 years, apoo was the only indian on television. he was a very popular character. indian people would thank me for putting apoo on. times changed. it s an old show. the world has changed. we re trying to slowly keep up with it. all right. the book is springfield confidential. jokes, secrets and outright lies from a lifetime of writing for the simpsons. mike, glad to meet you. if you meet them in an airport, they ll put you on the shot. exactly. easy. that s the secret of morning joe. that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. hi there, everyone, happy friday, i m stephanie ruhle with a lot to cover this morning. unfortunately, starting with some very sad news. horrifying in fact. at least 13 people, including children, were killed in a duck boat accident. we re going to go live to branson, missouri, for latest as the search continues for the remaining who are still missing. a surprise summit announcement. the white house letting us know new plans for a second meeting between vladimir putin and president trump that will take place in washington. catching many in the administration, including the director of national intelligence, completely off guard. vladimir putin is coming to the white house in the fall. say that again. okay. that s going to be special. and fed up. president trump breaks tradition. blasting the federal reserve and its chairman who he appointed, jerome powell, over raising interest rates. i m not thrilled. because, you know, we go up and every time you go up, they want to raise rates again. and i don t really i am not happy about it. we begin with breaking and very tragic news this hour. i need to warn you, some of the video, it s clearly very disturbing to watch.
back there. the least racist person, and i asked him that question a number of times. but just because you say it doesn t mean that it is so. it comes out in your actions and your policies. and i think that or inaction. the reason we seized upon them tonight in putting together the closing is because i think they re the most instructive. he knows that that s not true, what he s saying. he knows it s ridiculous, and that s not because i m painting him as a big oot. i m saying he goes out of his way. he goes out of his way not to be as condemn na tory as he is about so many things that matter so much less. and that heather heyer murder, whether that happened, and he didn t do with that matter what he did with, let s say katie steinle, something that didn t have to happen, that wouldn t have happened if that guy wasn t in this country, but he ll seize upon that as proof of a problem. but when this bigot kills heather heyer, that doesn t speak to any problem. that doesn t speak to anything. and he had to be chased into saying the right thing about heather heyer, where he leaps the chance to make so much more of these others. it s obvious. it s obvious, and it s ugly. i just hope at some point he owns it. it s also where your priorities are. and even if you use it because it s politically expedient, ignoring the problem or prioritizing the wrong things, that is also racist behavior and ignorance. and ignorance is part of racism. sure it is. it s one of the most dangerous types of indifference that we have seen in world history, where you know that what you re saying is stirring a very dangerous brew. yeah. and while you may not really be that convinced of it yourself, it doesn t matter. in some ways it makes it worse, that you just see the effect of it. you see the need for it in yourself and what you want to achieve, and then you do it? you own it. well, as i said during the campaign, i said he i started by saying if he s not racist, then he s racist-adjacent. then after the s-hole comments, i came right out and said the president of the united states is racist. i opened my show that way. and you would have thought that i set off a bomb or something. but people just went nuts. but the evidence is there. i stand by it. all you have to do is look at his words, his deeds, his actions going back to when he was a young man. and the biggest one of all well, besides, you know, the central park five, would be the whole birther thing. but, listen, i got to go. you mentioned spike lee. i got to see those guys last night. i also got fancy don. don the dandy. remember when we were talking about diane ross. oh, yeah, i saw the picture. so we get to this big fancy dinner. it s actually a really good cause. it was for elton john s aids foundation. beautiful. there s elton john. he has this huge oscar viewing party. he raised millions of dollars last night for aids research. good. he and his husband will be the one that stamps that out. i get there and looking. it says elton john, diana ross, don lemon. i said, oh, my gosh. chris is not going to believe this. i fanned out. i said, listen, i m not usually a fan boy. yes, you are. i love her so much. yes, you are. she said, i m 75. i said, miss ross, everyone knows it s your birthday. she s amazing. she looked great. you love to stress it up. i didn t wear the cape. it was over for me when i didn t say the cape. i got something for you. i couldn t outdo billy porter. come on. you saw that. yeah. hey, i got to run. thank you, my friend. good to see you. thank you for spending time with me this weekend. we also talked about race with your wife. wowed the crowd and rightly so. it was really great. thank you. good to see you. i ll see you tomorrow. this is cnn tonight. i m don lemon. so he s on his way to vietnam right now. but the president can t leave his troubles behind him at home. make no mistake about this, this will be a week of one big deal after another in many investigations swirling around this president. tonight paul manafort s legal team is attempting to argue for a lighter sentence for the crimes he admitted to in d.c. district court, which may be a tough sell because let me just remind you of what prosecutors said about the former trump campaign chairman in their massive it was a massive 800-page filing. okay? it says manafort, quote, repeatedly and knowingly broke the law, they said. his criminal actions were bold, it reads. and he lied to, quote get this, okay? he lied to, quote, tax preparers, bookkeepers, banks, the treasury department, the department of justice, national security division, the fbi, the special counsel s office, the grand jury, his own legal counsel, members of congress, and members of the executive branch. that s a whole lot of lying. let s go back through that. re-rack that, okay? they said he lied to, quote, tax preparers that s a lot of lies. he lied to bookkeepers. he lied to banks, the treasury department, the department of justice, the national security division, the fbi, the special counsel s office, the grand jury, his own legal counsel, members of congress, and members of the executive branch. i just you needed to see that because that is a whole lot of lying, and for what? why is he lying so much? it could land the man who once ran the trump campaign in prison for the rest of his life. that s as trump s former lawyer and keeper of secrets, michael cohen, set to answer questions tomorrow from the senate intel committee. he s going to do it behind closed doors. but that is the beginning of cohen s three-day marathon on capitol hill. so just imagine, right? the split screen, there you go on the television on wednesday. the day cohen is set to testify in the house under oath, live on tv, as the president meets with north korean dictator kim jong-un in vietnam. the question is will there be any real progress to end that nuclear threat from pyongyang? i think we ll have a very tremendous summit. we want denuclearization, and i think he ll have a country that will set a lot of records for speed in terms of an economy. so let s not forget, okay? the president seems to see kim jong-un through rose-colored glasses. we fell in love, okay? no, really. he wrote me beautiful letters. but you got to wonder if everybody in the administration is on the same page. listen to this exchange between the secretary of state mike pompeo and our very own jake tapper. here it is. do you think north korea remains a nuclear threat? yes. but the president said he doesn t. it s not what he said. i know precisely what he said. he tweeted there is no longer a nuclear threat from north korea. that s right, he did. the president clearly tweeted last june, okay? and this is a quote. he said, there is no nuclear threat from north korea. that was a quote. the president tweeted this. there is no nuclear threat from north korea. h. hmm. thursday will be day two of the trump/kim summit as cohen goes back to capitol hill for another grilling, this time from the house intel committee from behind closed door. you can bet president trump will want to have a news conference to get attention for any progress he makes with kim on the nuclear threat. but at the same time, he ll undoubtedly have to answer questions about michael cohen. one big development, we we re expecting this week, and that is the mueller report. but that doesn t mean the president can rest easy right now. he said the timing of the report is totally up to his new hand-picked attorney general william barr, who in his confirmation hearing last month, said he would provide as much transparency as he can. note he said as much as he can. so that will be totally up to him. i guess from what i understand, that will be totally up to the attorney general, okay? so there s no requirement that the report is ever made public even though we, the american people, are the ones paying for it. the deputy attorney general, who is rod rosenstein, keeping his cards very close to his chest today. what s the attorney general going to do? you ll have to ask him that question. a lot of people are wondering what rosenstein meant when he said this. when we charge somebody with a violation, we need to be prepared to prove it by evidence beyond any reasonable doubt. the guidance i always gave my prosecutors and the agents i worked with during my tenure on the front lines of law enforcement were if we aren t prepared to prove our case beyond a reasonable doubt in court, then we have no business making allegations against american citizens. so what s he saying? what is he saying there? is that a sign that the report will stay under wraps? congressman adam schiff not having it. i ve had this conversation with rod rosenstein and others on down at the justice department. as they turned over thousands and thousands of pages of discovery in the clinton e-mail investigation, and there was no indictment in that investigation, that this was a new precedent they were setting. and they were going to have to live by this precedent whether it was a congress controlled by the democrats or republicans. > it looks like congress is gearing up for a big fight over the mueller report, and there s more facing the president here at home. the house expected to pass a resolution of disapproval in the wake of his declaring a national emergency to start building his border wall without money from congress. it s a big, beautiful, powerful steel wall that you can see through, which is very important to be able to see through. and if you don t have it, you re not going to have borders. you re not going to have a country pretty soon. and in the face of all that, here s another case of the trump white house attempting to ignore the truth. this time the truth about climate change. the president was reportedly upset by his own administration s his own administration s national climate assessment, which described climate change as a threat to this country. these are his own people. he s upset it not buying it reportedly, okay? he s not because his white house is setting up a new working group of federal scientists to counter the scientific consensus. i kid you not. to actually try to debunk the administration s own conclusions. you can t write this. that s according to the washington post. like i said, this week is a very big deal with news of paul manafort, michael cohen, rod rosenstein, and as they say in the tv business, and more, all while the president is sitting across a table from kim jong-un. and the stakes in all of this could not be higher. paul manafort s legal team arguing for a lighter sentence for him. juliette kayyem, renato mariotti, max boot i m going to ask them what they think next. with a barbershop quartet? 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yeah. there you go. pretty much. yeah. that s what this is. the whole dissenting memo seemed like a desperate plea for a pardon. let me ask you this, renato. his team is arguing that manafort would not have been prosecuted harshly had it not been for rod rosenstein appointing robert mueller. are you seeing any remorse from manafort? no. i mean what i see is a guy who knows he s going to get ten years from judge jackson no matter what. that s pretty much a guarantee at this point. that s the maximum sentence she can give. you know, judge ellis is going to give whatever he s going to give. you know, he did seem to buy into some of the rhetoric earlier. but, you know, i don t know. manafort s looking at a heavy sentence there potentially as well. so i think he s just hoping that he s going to get a pardon from trump because, you know, look, he s looking at state law convictions, state convictions, but at least he has a shot there, right? he hasn t been convicted yet, so he might as well hope for pardons, give the party line because he s looking at the rest of his life in prison. he has nothing to lose at this point. max, let me bring you in because the defense team is also emphasizing that the special counsel hasn t charged him with any illegal coordination with russian government officials in 2016. they re making the claim that there is no evidence of collusion. your reaction here given what we know about manafort s interaction, especially with konstantin kilimnik. this is really the last refuge of the scoundrel in this case, don, to claim, oh, you know, i committed all these other felonies, but i didn t commit, quote, unquote, collusion with russia, which as we know is not actually a crime. that s just a phrase that we in the pundit business use to describe the cooperation between the trump campaign and the kremlin. and the actual crime, if there is one, would be something like conspiracy against the united states. but i mean how does that exonerate manafort from all the financial fraud, all the tax fraud, all the bank fraud that he committed? it s a complete non sequitur. and as you were pointing out, there is actually a lot that s come out that actually supports the charge of collusion, in his case with constantine kikonstan. in fact, today, there was a new revelation where a blogger pointed out, who blocks under the name empty wheel, pointed out in one of the filings from manafort s own defense attorneys, they basically admitted that he shared 75 pages of internal polling data from the trump campaign with konstantin kilimnik, who was linked to russian intelligence. why would you share 75 pages of internal polling data? there is no innocent explanation for that. what it suggests is this could have very well been used this data could have been used to coordinate the russian disinformation campaign on behalf of donald trump. and, juliette, why would you lie so much or mislead people because the prosecutors talked about the range of people manafort had deceived, including members of congress, members of the executive branch. i mean, listen, he lied to tax preparers, bookkeepers, banks, the treasury department, the department of justice national security division, the fbi, the special counsel s office, the grand jury, his own legal counsel, members of congress, and members of the executive branch. that is an incredible thing to hear given his major role in the trump campaign. that s the point that we can t forget is that these lies are about the time period that he is campaign chairman and he is at least a part of trying to elect donald trump as president. i know the president s son tried to suggest that these were old crimes. they are not old crimes, and lying is actually a present crime. and i think what s important to remember is we re assuming that mueller has laid out all of his cards. but we certainly know from just the nature of the redacted evidence that things like what max was talking about, how much and to the extent of the information that he shared with the russians. i m curious where did manafort get that data from within the campaign? was it the data collection staff that was run by jared kushner? so there s a lot of things that mueller has not laid out yet. so, you know, back to renato s point, they ve just got nothing, and so they re going to say, okay, i didn t kill anyone. okay. and this is just silliness. the judge is going to give a harsh sentence, and we ll see if trump does what he says well, he has not closed the door to the pardon of manafort at this stage. well, you mentioned it. you said that don junior said these were old crimes. he also said there were no crimes. we re going to hear from the president s son right after this. we ll be right back. 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i mean are they really pretending to be journalists? they don t ask him any tough questions. they don t follow up with that. i mean any serious journalist, if you re sitting there and this guy is say, these aren t real crimes, but people are pleading guilty. they have high-prizced lawyers. some of these people have fantastic lawyers. michael cohen had a great lawyer, a really expensive lawyer. he pled guilty and got a deal and got three years because frankly otherwise he was going to be spending ten-plus years in prison. to me, any serious journalist would be asking the question. what s really sad is we have this network that s a mouthpiece for the republican party that is letting these guys get along saying lies to the american people. and we wonder why, you know, 30%, 40% of people in america believe donald trump more than they ll believe robert mueller at the end of the day. okay. so rod rosenstein is saying when it comes to this report, he s saying the justice department should not release information on uncharged citizens. he says there s good reason not to be transparent. watch this. this is a knee-jerk reaction that suggests we should be transparent about what we do in government. but there are a lot of reasons not to be transparent about what we do in government. just because the government collects information doesn t mean that information is accurate, and it can be really misleading if you re overly transparent about information that the government collects. so i think we do need to be really cautious about that. if we aren t prepared to prove our case beyond a reasonable doubt in court, then we have no business making allegations against american citizen. so, max boot, what is he doing? is he signaling there that the report may not be released, that we may not learn much publicly about what happened? well, i don t think we should necessarily read too much into that, don. i think what he s doing is he s stating a general rule, which is one that i think makes sense. i think the country was generally revolted by ken starr, who overshared and also by fbi director comey, who overshared about hillary clinton despite not indicting her. so i think rod rosenstein is reacting to that. but of course when we re talking about president trump, that is a unique case. i mean as a general rule, yes, the government should not be sharing derogatory information about somebody unless they re indicting that person. but in the case of donald trump, according to the justice department, he can t be indicted. so does that mean that no derogatory information about the president can possibly be released because he can t be indicted? in that case, he s above the law. that clearly doesn t make any sense. let me ask you a question. i m not sure if you re old enough. do you remember this president named bill clinton? yeah. do you remember this president had a scandal. it was a special counsel. it started with whitewater. right. so you were a republican then, right? yep. were there a lot of republicans saying, well, this isn t about whitewater. all of a sudden it s become something else? of course not. what happened? obviously we all know that what, you know, bill clinton really got into trouble for, perjuring himself about his relationship with monica lewinsky, which had zero to do with the original predicate for the investigation, which was the whitewater i m just wondering where were republicans then who are now saying we know where they are. they just flip-flop based on what s politically expedient. they re doing whatever is necessary to protect republicans and to hurt democrats. they have no credibility. this is what adam schiff responded, tweeting this. he said, this double standard won t cut it. for two years i sounded the alarm about doj s deviation from that principle as it turned over hundreds of thousands of pages in closed or ongoing investigations. i warned that doj would need to live by the precedent, and it will. so i mean democrats are ready to go to battle for this report. we may not even you know, we may not even see what s in the report. do they have a strong case if they subpoena someone of getting this information out? they could. i mean this is all sort of new territory. i want to be clear. there are going to be legitimate reasons why the public does not see all the information in this report. we have, as you said you know, we have at least 30 cases ongoing. we have 199 indictments. there are going to be reasons to protect sources this idea it s like sunshine rules, i think it s just ridiculous for even democrats to say at this stage. what we need to do is set the standard for what should be disclosed, right? this is where rosenstein, i think, we should not lose our heads over what he said. it was clear he was not talking about at least when i saw the whole thing, that he was not talking about the president of the united states because the president of the united states is a different rule. it is someone you can t he did specifically say citizen of the united states, which makes me think he wasn t talking about the president. exactly. so he knows better than anyone if doj says we can t indict under their rules, and he follow the fbi rules of we don t put out this information, then the president could actually kill someone on well, maybe not kill someone on 5th afternoon, but try to kill someone. shoot someone as he said. exactly. so what i think you have to remember is there s also a public interest. doj and fbi will have a public interest exception that the democrats should demand, right? they did this in ferguson as some people are reporting today because the public interest was much higher than it is in a normal case. and then finally, remember this is i view the mueller document as a political document. the indictments are ongoing. the criminal side is already happening. it is going to go on well past 2020. this is a political document which does not need to have crimes listed because impeachment proceedings do not have to follow the criminal code. you can impeach based on high crimes and misdemeanors that may not match the criminal code. so i think a lot is still open on what they re going to release. just quickly, democrats need to stop saying everything shows because we will undermine the investigation in cases that are ongoing that will show some really bad behavior by a lot of trump people. interesting. we had so much to talk about. i have to get to this. michael cohen, he s going to testify on capitol hill publicly and behind closed doors. what are we going to learn from him? one thing we re going to learn potentially is what he was hiding from southern district of new york prosecutors if congress had asked the right questions. we re also potentially going to find out a little more about these campaign finance charges. and we re going to find out who was he coordinating with at the white house about his lies to congress. that s going to be very interesting and potentially explosive testimony. wow. stay tuned for that. i m going to be watching that one. okay. thank you all. i ll see you next time. chicago police dealing with some big cases right now. r. kelly posting bail and leaving jail today. jussie smollett fighting allegations that he staged the assault he reported. i m going to speak to a man at the center of it all. that is chicago police superintendent. he joins me next. y, who are you? oh, hey jeff, i m a car thief. what?! i m here to steal your car because, well, that s my job. what? what?? what?! 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what is that? well, i can t really go into specifics because we re past the bond proffer, but i can just tell you this. normally when we do things of this nature, all the evidence isn t provided up front. so there are some other things that just don t support the original version of the story that we got. okay. so let s talk about some of those things. you said there s additional evidence, but you can t talk about it. what about this whole thing about the check? you know, he s saying he wrote on the line that it was for training and whatever, and it wasn t to stage an attack. what do you say to that? well, you know what? like i said, don, a lot of these things will come out in court if it gets that far. but let s face it. if you were going to, let s say, buy a stolen car, you wouldn t put in the memo line buying stolen car. that s what i ll say to that. did the brothers testify or tell police that the check was for the attack, or was it for training? well, when you look at if you read the bond proffer, what they said the check was for is in that bond proffer, and it was for the attack. okay. the staged attack. so let s talk about this letter. what about the letter because that was one of the first things you said during the initial press conference, that you believe that he this is the one that came about a week before to the set of empire. the fbi says that is not confirmed. well, yeah. the fbi has not confirmed that, you know, that s their individual investigation. so any comments that we ve made about it is from evidence that we ve gathered independent of the fbi. so this is from your own so they may in fact come up with they may in fact come up with something different. but this is from you re talking about chicago p.d. s evidence has nothing to do with what the fbi has collects. it s two separate investigations. is that what you re saying? that s correct. that s correct. okay. can we also talk about the cook county state s attorney kim foxx recusing herself. why was that? was there some sort of conflicts of interest? well, you know, really she s the person that has to answer that. but i have a question good working relation ship with state s attorney foxx. i would just say this, that i m sure she had good reason for recusing herself from the case. so here s the thing. i mean besides the question about why would jussie smollett do this, you laid that out in the proffer. and from what, you know, you said at the press conference. but what reason, superintendent, would the brothers have to attack jussie smollett on their own if because if he s saying he didn t do it, that must mean the brothers did it on their own? well, that s the only thing you could surmise from that. and, you know, we have to face the fact that he still has the presumption of innocence at this time, and he ll get his chance to explain his side of the story. but like you just said, you know, you wonder why would they do that on their own? they didn t appear to have any conflict with each other. i think all those details will come out when he gets his day in court. i m sure you ve heard about this. people were surprised. you know, i m not saying in a bad or a good way, but in the press conference that you were so passionate, so clearly upset. this was personal for you. why is that? you know what, don? i ve lived in chicago my entire life, and i don t know if you know this, but i grew up part of my childhood was in ca breen green, which can be characterized as the most know for yusz housing project back in the 60s and 70s. when i took this job, the mayor and i made a pact that we would do everything we could to make chicago safer, and we ve made a lot of progress in these three years. crime is down. we have built up and repaired relationships in the black communities, the black and brown communities. so we don t want to lose that momentum, and we certainly don t need manufactured things to, you know, stunt that growth. now, are we where we want to be? of course we re not. but we ve made a lot of progress. you know, we re 40% down this year, year-to-date, compared to last year in terms of murders. 22% down in shootings. and those are important figures. so i don t want anything to disrupt that unless it is something that is something that s earned, and it just i just don t understand the nature of something like this because it could really cause an issue in this city. you know, we ve had issues before, but we ve made a lot of progress also. and the numbers are going the right way the right direction. that s a good thing. as far as jussie smollett, he continues to stand by his story that he didn t stage this attack, superintendent. his attorneys released a statement saying, smollett feels betrayed by a system that apparently wants to skip due process and proceed directly to sentencing. how do you respond to that? so what i ll say to you, don, is this. our job as police officers, not just in chicago but across this country our job is to let the facts guide us to where we go. when we started this investigation, he told us that, you know, he could see through the mask that these were white-skinned people. that s who we were looking for. but the facts guided us in a different direction. and i would tell you this also. we classified him as a victim. we gave him the benefit of the doubt all the way up until the 47th hour of the 48th hour that we could hold those two brothers in custody. it turned at that 47th hour, and that s when he became a suspect in this, you know. our job is to gather the facts and evidence, present them to the state s attorney, who then decides if the evidence is sufficient for charging. they decided it was. now the next step is to go through the judicial process and either a judge or jury will decide who s telling the truth. so we just let the judicial process play out. he did say it was white he saw white skin. he said that to you, to police? yes. if you read the bond proffer i did. you ll see that in there. i have you here. i just want to make sure. again, you stand by the evidence you have, and you said you have more evidence than when you presented at the press conference and in the proffer that leads you to believe that this was something that he cooked up himself? i absolutely stand by the investigation. the detective dollars a hes did job, and i want to commend them on their thoroughness in that investigation. so i have no reason to believe right now than it s anything different than what we ve stated it is. now, when he gets his day in court and he s able to say his part of the incident, then we ll see what happens. but right now tonight, the evidence suggests otherwise. it doesn t suggest that the incident occurred the way that he stated it did. you guys are very busy in chicago. i want to ask you about r. kelly now. he left the cook county jail this afternoon after posting bail. he was indicted on ten counts of aggravated sexual abuse of four victims. these stories of r. kelly with underage girls have been around for decades. superintendent, why is it taking so long to charge him? well, i think a lot of the problem is, don, you know, even like for us, when we are investigating murders and shootings and things of that nature, you know, oftentimes we ll identify people of interest. but it ultimately comes down to whether witnesses or victims are willing to cooperate. you can have all the evidence in the world, but if victims and witnesses don t want to cooperate, then you kind of reach a point that you can t take it any further. so i think right now what you have with that particular case is people that feel like they were taken advantage of are willing to actually say something right now. superintendent, i thank you for your time. you mentioned at the press conference about the people who were victims of gun violence in chicago needing to get attention, and we would love to have you back to discuss that as well. so will you please come back anytime and discuss those issues? i d be glad to, don. thanks for having me. thank you, superintendent johnson. appreciate your time. okay. patriots owner bob kraft, officially facing charges of soliciting prostitution. all the details of the months-long investigation that led to the bust and what it could mean for the billionaire. and 2 boxes of twizzlers.. yeah, uh.for the team. the team? 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the charges carry a year in prinze. but because it s the first offense it s more like will i he ll get educational classes and fines. people have been focused on the charges of soliciting prostitution. the human trafficking stuff ez he is not charged with that. correct. but the state as toernlg says it s a huge problem. the state s attorney general uses his platform to explain how big of a problem it is. he says in this particular case these women were lured into the country in most cases from china, living, working, sleeping, eating, and then being forced to perform these sex acts on people all day long. and saying this is a brothel, this is modern day slavery. and he s saying the only way it can be stopped is two ways. one, women report it, they realize they have options here when they report it. in some cases that means a visa. and then the other way is cut down demand. the people that take part in this, the alleged defendants in this case, maybe they don t want to know what s going on or they just turn a blind eye. but that s really the way this is going to stop. appreciate the report. thank you, brynn gingras. thank you so much. michael cohen starts three days of testimony on capitol hill in just hours. how damaging could it be for the president? 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first point is to resume the talks as president xi continuing the talks which have been interrupted for a while. it is a very big deal. i think that is a banner headline from this. i think everybody is going to be pleased at that, no promises, no deal made, no timetable, i want to emphasize that, president said several times, this is about the quality of the deal, no timetable, no rush, he is comfortable where he is in any case. i think coming back we will resume the talks, the two teams will begin together in tariffs will not be race, there will be no lifting of tariffs, on the remaining 300 or $325 billion and that is an important concession by president trump. and we also expect the chinese, while the talks are going, we expect the chinese to begin large-scale purchases, imports of the u.s. agriculture products and services. so new talks, no new tariffs and agriculture purchases and the rest of it is going to go on for quite some time. are we talking month or yea years. chris: you said the two nations were 90% on the way to deal before the talks broke down, have the agree to keep the commitment they already made or are we starting from scratch? the president mentioned in his press conference, and elsewhere that he would like to go back to where we left off in early may wherever he was. that 90% of her was fair although the last 10% could be the toughest and there is no guarantee that the deal will go through. it is very important from the american side in relationships with china have to be rebalanced. it is been very unbalanced in recent years. as you know, we have had tremendous problems with intellectual property theft, forced transfers of technology, tariffs, nontariff barriers, various cyber hacking going on and other issues. those have to be remedies. that is a very important point of these talks pre-however, long that may take is impossible to predict but we would prefer to go back, i don t know what the chinese site is going to say and we won t know until ambassador lighthizer executive management get back together with the chinese conference. one thing that we do know is the big u.s. concession is that president trump has agreed to lift his band into allow u.s. companies to sell some products to the chinese telecom giant huawei. here is what president trump said about huawei last month. huawei is something that is very dangerous. what they have done him a security standpoint, from a military standpoint is very dangerous. why is the president agreed to do business again with the company that he says is an extension of chinese intelligent and a lot of people say if huawei products go into other countries it will allow chinese to spy on people using their products. that very well may be. let s be careful here. the president s announcement at these meetings and he was very clear to say that american companies can supply huawei with various products and services, provided that there is no national security issues or problems so the commerce department has already offered a number of general services licenses for some sales to huawei. on the other hand, i think commerce will probably go back after the president decision and take another look. maybe open it up, there s a lot of technology services. you can really find on general markets and we don t think have any national security applications, and i think there s a good chance the commerce department and secretary will open the door on that and grit new licenses pray. chris: let me interrupt, there are a number of senate republicans who are concerned about the idea of opening the door and to some degree lifting the band, i want to take a look at what some of them have said. huawei is a communist party controlled say surveillance agency failed as a telecommunications company for. of our allies decide to trust huawei they are deciding to trust the chinese government with their data. chris: republican senator marco rubio tweeted this after the president s announcement this weekend. if president trump has agreed to reverse recent sanctions against huawei he has made a catastrophic mistake. larry, senator rubio said that the senate will put in place all of the sections despite what the president has agreed to with, he will put in place although the sanctions as a vetoproof majority. i appreciate that, by the way i appreciate the national security concerns. and president shares that point of view. this is not a general amnesty. rahway will remain on the entity list where there are serious export controls and any national security suggestions there will not be any licenses. having said that i think all that is going to happen is the congress department will grant some temporary additional licenses or the general availability, for example, some of the chipmakers in the united states are selling products widely available from other countries and they don t think there s any national security the president will be meeting with senators and others in our own principles are going to be meeting to take a look at this. this is not a general industry, they will remain on the embassy list in the national security concerns will remain paramount.. chris: i want to squeeze two questions in. as you well know, the democrats held two debates this past week and they said for all the president bragging about a strong u.s. economy that it is not working for all americans. take a look. when you have an economy that does great with those with money and is not doing great for everyone else, that is corruption. and simple. we need to call it out, we need to attack it head on. how do you respond to that? i just do not understand. in general, i hear some of it, i see the policies, i see some of the narratives. i don t understand what planet they are describing. the united states economy is booming and is running roughly 3% average since president trump took office to a half years ago. on this business about baptist tradition, the blue-collar workers, the nonsupervisory workers have done the best. they are the ones running wages at three and half percent. their gross and income wages is exceeded the growth of the supervisors, the unemployment rate is low, we just had the best june stock market, the dow jones and over 80 years. that is going to full of the 401ks, middle-class folks, everywhere. chrisi don t understand, these e factual issues. i understand there s a political spin, but these are factual and measurable areas and i would say i do not understand the narrative, we are in a strong prosperity. chris: let me interrupt your campaign speech. is not a campaign speech. i am citing facts and figures. chris: allingham saying, i don t think there s any question, he would agree and i will be talking with tom. later about the economic record. but there is clearly a stark income inequality in this country. there s a time when we have three people in this country, more wealth than the bottom wall 500,000 people are sleeping on the streets today, we think it is time for change, real change. i got 30 seconds for an answer. if president trump is reelected in 2020 what specifically will he do to reduce, not eliminate but to reduce the huge gap between the wealthy and the poor in this country. what we re doing right now, the blue-collar work recovery, the fastest increase in jobs, the fastest increase in wages, those are facts, this goes on for many decades, i do not know what some of the candidates are saying. i don t know what the factual basis is. it s a strong and durable prosperity cycle, i will make this morning, some of the policies i heard are only debates, in my judgment, we do great damage to the prosperity and jobs and income and wage cycle, somebody has to do a little bit of fact checking on what some of these candidates are saying. i would civilly say this, the economy is strong. they get free time. always good to talk with user. we will bring in our center group hey! i m bill slowsky jr., i live on my own now! i ve got xfinity, because i like to live life in the fast lane. unlike my parents. you rambling about xfinity again? 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maybe. when she open the door it is hard to closer. there is a very fine line even the technology of figuring out what eventually might have national security implementations and whatnot. i think it sends a confusing message to the allies because were trying to get our allies to hold the line when it comes to huawei. i don t know that they know where they stand. chris: we were telling the european allies, don t even do business with huawei, don t buy their products because it ll put a foot in the door for them to spy into countries. in other have to look and say then why are you opening your doors to huawei. and we were telling that to the south koreans as well. is extraordinary how much news there was from just this week. i want to turn to a third subject that came from the presidents trip from asia. he met with russian president putin and the two of them talked about reporters and meddling in the 2020 election. take a look at the conversation. [inaudible] [inaudible] get rid of the reporters, fake news and don t meddle in the election. is this just trumping trump and not wanting reporters to tell them what to say or do you see his by play there putin is more serious than that. it s both trumping trump in more serious. it is damaging, it is yes to both. it seems like so many people, especially trump supporters, basically excuse his behavior when he turns to the fourth of july into a term probably, is just trumping trump. but when you snicker with putin about a free press and about a free election, i think it is damaging, it s a sad reminder of how russia is once again poised to interfere in the 2020 election and not seen any consequence and turned of the leader standing up and saying this is unacceptable. i think it s damaging to excuse behavior that contradictory to american values paper this week said, democratic values are obsolete, outdated. and we don t have anybody to say we believe that elections and democracy are valuable and it s why america is a shining beacon to the world and instead he acts as if our credit behavior, putin kills his political opponents and we are playing footsie. it is definitely damaging. we have to wrap up the segment. do you see the joking about the reporters and what some people are saying is almost a green light interfering in the 2020 election. is a serious or other trump critics just never going to like him and reading too much into it. i think the latter part is very true. the president is taking the series stance, remember all the interference in the complaint that the democrats have don don. that was on barack obama s watch. i think he is dealt with in very serious, but some of the banter in front of the press, i think is done in a lighthearted way. , you to agree to disagree. [laughter] everybody agreed to disagree. it wouldn t be a pain otherwise. chris: we will see you later. up next fireworks at the democratic first debate in 2020. harris taking what s going on up here? can t see what it is yet. what is that? that s a blazer? that s a chevy blazer? aww, this is dope. this thing is beautiful. i love the lights. oh man, it s got a mean face on it. it looks like a piece of candy. look at the interior. this is nice. this is my sexy mom car. i would feel like a cool dad. it s just really chic. i love this thing. it s gorgeous. i would pull up in this in a heartbeat. i want one of these. that is sharp. the all-new chevy blazer. speaks for itself. i don t know who they got to design this but give them a cookie and a star. they have businesses to grow customers to care for lives to get home to they use stamps.com print discounted postage for any letter any package any time right from your computer all the amazing services of the post office only cheaper get our special tv offer a 4-week trial plus postage and a digital scale go to stamps.com/tv and never go to the post office again! chris: the democratic candidates squared off for the first time in two nights of debates. it produced a number of consensus moments and raised new doubts about the party front runner. democratic party tom paris joins us to discuss the race of work this stands now. welcome back to fox new fox nes sunday . i want to start with the confrontation thursday night from joe biden and kamala harr harris. there was a little girl in california who is part of the second class to integrate her public school. she was bused to school everyday. and that little girl was me. you mischaracterize my position across the board. i did not praise racism. do you agree today that you were wrong to oppose busing in america, do you agree? i did not oppose busing in america. what i opposed was busing order by the department of education, that s what i oppose. how badly was joe biden who is the democratic front runner damaged by the confrontation? voters will look at everybody s record, and the reality is, every single democrat running for president on the issue of civil rights is so far ahead of where this president is, whether it s fighting for voting rights or fighting to make sure let s not get off joe biden. that will be up to the voters to decide, we have another debate coming up in a month, their all every sigel day, and what voters will do and the reason i m excited about what we had last week, i think voters saw we had a deep bench and are focused on issues of healthcare, making sure this economy works for everyone. those of the issues and enemies. we will get all of that. biden thought he had been damaged, he tried to repair what had gone on thursday night with kamala harris. let s take a look at that. just like senator harris, but we ll know that 30 seconds or 60 seconds on a campaign debate exchange can t do justice to a lifetime committed to civil rights. he said he never opposed voluntary busing but that badly distorts his actual record. i want to take a look at this, in 1975 biden supported an anti-busing measure from then segregationist. in 1976 he entered a block justice department from seeking busing orders in the court to desegregate schools. and biden said this in an interview and 75. i oppose busing, it s a concept that the utility of which has never been proven to me. biden s record against busing is clear. biden overall record on civil rights is clear. in the democratic party overall record on civil rights is clear. and what i always want, when i was running for office and i know what these candidates want, they want you to look at the totality of what they ve done and their career. of fighting for voting rights, fighting to make sure we hold police department accountable. fighting to make sure that women have equal pay for equal work and we passed the violence against women act. vice president biden another democrats have been leading the charge. we have an assault with this president on the basic course of civil rights. that is what this is about. that is what this campaign is going. chris: i am talking about the fight for the nomination within your party and the question is, is the democratic party going to nominate someone who opposed the main tool at one point to desegregate a look schools that is going to be up to the voters and they will look at the totality of everybody s record, what they said, what they have done and who is fighting for them. and on all the issues whether it s economy, civil rights, every democrat has the backs of people and that is what voters will see. chris: does it bother you personally, you re the chairman of the party. does it bother you personally that he opposed the main tool to desegregate schools. it is up to the vice president to explain his position. it is up to the vice president to explain everything he has done in his career. that is what he did friday and that is what he will continue to do because i know how well, he has fought for equality and opportunity and look at what happened with gay marriage. chris: not in this case he didn t, voters will have to look at the totality of the vice president record. in every candidates record. i invite them to kick the tires on all her candidates. the difference between us in this president is not in date on the issues of civil rights. the party of lincoln used to be the party of civil rights in the party of lincoln is that, it s a democratic party fighting to make sure that everybody has an opportunity to realize the american dream. chris: let s turn to a key moment in this week s debate. rager hand if your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants. [applause] chris: every person on that stage, all ten of them said that they would provide health insurance coverage for people in this country illegally either under obamacare or medicare for all, whichever they supported. no talk about preconditions, you have to be working in this country, you have to be paid in taxes, the basic point was, you are in this country legally or illegally you get health insurance coverage paid. and its insurance program, there to pay into it. immigrants including undocumented pay billions of dollars in taxes. and that s the reality. and what democrats also said which is far different from the republicans, if we have a pre-existing condition, you should be able to keep her coverage. democrats believe that healthcare should be available, affordable quality healthcare should be available to everyone and thanks to obama, lbj, medicare and medicaid where 90% of the way there. we are having a discussion about how to get the final. chris: we are talking about whether or not people in the country illegally should get government benefits. remember when president obama told congress back in 2009, here it is. those who claim that the reform efforts would it reinsure illegal immigrants. this too is false. chris: republican congressman joe wilson was called out and quite rightfully so for shouting out in a speech to a joint session of congress, you live. the fact is, ten years later joe wilson is right, about where the democrats are now. democrats believe you should be able to buy into a new health insurance. were in a different era. what we re doing right now is the right thing to do. why is a different era from 2009. i live in a community where if you re pregnant woman in your undocumented, we provide you with access to healthcare because we believe that having good prenatal care is an essential healthcare issue, it s an essential issue of economics and in its essential issue of morality. the party of lincoln is dead, and one of the things that died with compassion. this is not hand out, this is allowing people to buy into an insurance program. people who pay billions of dollars in taxes, again i think that is often left upright. another proposal that was widely supported in the debates this week, i changed to the immigration laws. went 70 comes across the border, not to criminalize desperation, a civil violation. as a civil matter, it s important to make this, i did not understand till i looked into it. people come across illegally would still be able to be deported. but you would be removing if you follow what mr. castro says, you would be removing at least the prep of legal action. doesn t that provide a magnet for people to come into the country illegally because the threat of legal action and jail time is removed. here as we were having this discussion about 1325, the reason for having that is a part of the law the secretary castro was referring to. the reason for having this discussion is because this demonstration absolutely abused it, it established the so-called zero-tolerance. the problem with the president is all he wants to do is look tough, he does not want to be effective. we zero-tolerance policy which sounds tough had absolutely cataclysmic impact. that resulted in children being put in cages. if you had exercise the discretion properly as prior presidents have done, this would not happen. the reason we are having this discussion, 57% of all federal cases, criminal cases that have been filed in the last two years have been for entering the country illegally. i welcome a discussion about priorities, that s what democrats want to have. we believe we can be a nation of law and immigrants. we believe we can provide effective due process to people, we believe the reason why this is happening is because and honduras and guatemala and el salvador, the countries are falling apart, the people coming to the border now are families with children, the worked priority of this ministration, the chaos of their policy, that is why we have had this discussion. we should be focused on violent felons in this ministration is focused on separating children from families. i welcome the discussion about a coherent i wish the president would stop tweeting and start solving problems. chris: it s a discussion that will continue. thank you for coming in today. please come back. up next, donald trump was a favorite target for democrats especially on night two of the debate, how well did they do, debate, how well did they do, making a case for a one term the good news? 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or i forgot, during the heat of the battle over bussing in the 1970s, the situation was so egregious with the segregation in the schools in delaware of biden s own state, the court ordered that black kids from the inner city of wilmington should be bust out to the suburbs and white kids from the suburbs should bust into the inner city. a lot of folks who did not know his record, now do know it. what a great will that hurt his standard in the black community. i think it was known by a lot of people. this is a totally different state she is running for president now. and so much is he s running for president as an extension of the fact that he was the first vice president with a black present. and so much of joe biden support right now in the polls which had a 30% compared to, i think it s more 10% higher than bernie sanders, is based on black support and going to south carolina wary of a large black electorate in the democratic party. it s very important, i think it s so important that the civil rights icon, jim clyburn, making deals with segregation was necessary to gradual civil rights advancement and it is not fear to go back and say we have a black lives matter stated, anybody playing around with racist is an unacceptable person. an older black leader in the country do not take that position. unit is nelson mandela. sometimes you have to negotiate print. let s turn to another issue. all the focus on biden there has not been a much attention to the democratic attacks on donald trump and the debates this week. take a look at this. the american people understand. trump is a phony, a pathological liar and a racist and he lied to the american people during his campaign. how strong do you think, this gives back to the issue is discussing with larry kudlow. for all the presidents talk about the strong economy that it is really working a lot better for the wealthy, the top 1% that it is for all the working people donald trump said he is going to protect. either democrats talking to democrats, there is no doubt they could go to the ends of the earth earth and they will continue to do that. but they re very ineffective. i think after the two nights of the debate the president is stronger politically than he has ever been before. hit a great time and north korea at the summit. in the economy is doing well, they can try to draw all the stats, but larry kudlow will come back with other stat and i think most people across this country when they see the debate and they see everybody raising their hand in the priority going to illegal immigrants and giving them free healthcare as opposed to the hard-working americans, that does not resonate with america. you think the trip administration is doing a good job with delivering on healthcare for americans. we see democrats raising your hand in unison that they want to get free healthcare to illegal immigrants, that is nothing about homeless veterans i think there is no plan after talk of repeal and replace of obamacare everybody, democrats all want to get rid of private insurance. that is not -. chris: let me get julian into this. you hear what larry kudlow says, the numbers, facts are facts. unemployment rate is low. gdp growth is strong. wages are rising. it is true but not working for working america. i think it s really tough, it s kind of the same argument that mitt romney made in 2012 running against president obama when the obama economy was recovering quite well from the financial crisis. he tried to say, things are going well but they could be better. it did not work then and i don t think it ll work now partially because unappointed numbers are so low. partially because that s a difficult argument to make to the market people. the numbers do not lie at the end of the day. what is true, and in empirical fact that there is significant gap in incomes between the lowest income earners in the 1%. i think we voters show up on election day, they will be paying attention to their wallets into whether their families are making progress or not and i think it is going to be a strong democratic argument it is not at all, part of the reason that you have inequality is because wages have been going up in this part of the economy is stagnant for 20 years. where families are struggling to meet basic needs. those things over the long-term for democrats will play out in the economy. the economy is not the stock market for most americans. we are talking about on a plum as well print. unemployment at low wages is really great. i think that americans understand if you re unemployed and making $7.35 an hour that is not putting food on your family stable pre- income redistribution is not the winning formula. democrats argued that they want to raise taxes, get rid of this they prioritize illegal immigrants, they want to get rid of 180 million people have private healthcare and transfer they want to get rid of that, they want to raise taxes, they laid out on the table, they want to raise taxes, that is income redistribution. they want to make sure that the people at the top are paying their fair share so that it really does benefit working people. that is really pretty simple. more government and more taxes. iraqi people understand that if you have people at the bottom who are not making a fair wage and cannot take care of their families that attended the data actually hurt you and trust me, all the millionaires and billionaires that can afford to give up a little bit to make sure that the market people have healthcare and childcare in the things that meet their everyday needs. more government and more taxes is not what i m looking for. healthcare when you talk about paying for school, tuition debt, i think the american people should say something is wrong because the average families are struggling despite all the talk of a great stock market. stock market is not doing it for most people. i am glad we settled all that, nothing more to discuss. unfortunately we have a year end have to discuss it. thank you opie and we will see you next sunday. up next the power player of the week. washington new archbishop on the nation s capital after a series of deeply troubling scandals. 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(vo) snap and sort your expenses to save over $4,600 at tax time. quickbooks. backing you. a new leader trying to help washington heal and move on. he s our power player. the past is real, it s painful. but the future is also possible and hopefully very positive. i resolve to serve faithfully the spiritual needs of this local church. a new archbishop of washington and he s talking about a deeply painful time for catholics here. in february, longtime cardinal, theater was defrauded. after being found guilty of sexual abuse. last year his successor resigned. he failed to respond properly to abuse allegations. how do you help priests keep their trust in the church? i have to be a man who is committed to telling people the truth. as best as i know. what you say about the the trail? i get is horrific. it s just an egregious betrayal of trust that has deeply wounded this local church. what you say about the failings? following the disaster, the issues that cardinal faced for magnified because they were already shared with the committee that was deeply wounded. in memory. speaking. holding listening sessions with priest. discussing all the church scandals. they tested your faith in the church as an institution? they haven t tested my faith, they tested my patience. as head of the nations capital, gregory has to deal with subjects beyond the region. his support path to citizenship as part of comprehensive immigration reform. a time when people crossing the border illegally is highly charged. when you hear the president talk about an invasion, does it disturb you? anyone who denigrates the people who seek a better future, a more positive way of living further family can denigrate them as one. is in sixth grade when he transferred from public school. he decided to convert to catholicism and become a priest. i thought about becoming a priest before i thought about becoming catholic. it would be helpful to be catholic i was a priest. if you re interested in being a preacher, we have to take this step-by-step. you can t steal first base. the archbishop of washington is traditionally elevated to criminal. gregory would be the first african-american cardinal ever in the u.s. he says he s in no hurry to change the color. i think you would be very disappointed if he struck me here and i got a bad case of scarlet fever. my first concern before i think about a color that i might wear is to care for the people that are here right in front of me. he spent 14 years as archbishop of atlanta and thought that would be his final assignment. as he says, the holy father had other ideas. that s it for today. have a great week. we ll see you next. buzzfeed this sunday, president trump dominating the news, diplomacy overnight. [inaudible] this was a special moment. trump meeting kim jong un in the dmz and becoming the first sitting president to set foot on north korean soil, but how skeptical to produce any nuclear progress. media hail kamala harris, dominant story, really the only story of the first democratic debate. she would bus to school every day and that little girl was me.
democrats take the debate state for the first time in light off the party 2020 front runner pre- i do not praise racist. you ve agreed today that you are wrong to oppose in america. i did not oppose an america. how badly has joe biden been damaged and is the field will be too far to the left. we will have an exclusive interview with democratic party chair tom perez. we will ask the panel who won the first debat and how it will reshape the democratic race. the power player of the week, the new archbishop of washington on moving beyond a crisis in the church. the past is real, it s painful, but the future is also possible and hopefully very positive. all right now on fox news sunday . chris: hello again from fox news and washington. president trump has wrapped up his trip to asia. with a handshake with kim jong-un, a walk into north korea and an agreement to revive nuclear talks. all this just a day after hitting the reset button with china. in the ongoing trade war between the worlds two biggest economies. in a moment we will speak with the president top white house economica visor leave larry kudlow but first white house correspondent john roberts report from south korea on the dramatic development. the two leaders walked right up to the line between north and south, they shook hands and then president trump stepped into history becoming the first sitting american president to walk on north korean soil. this is a historic moment. reporter: after a follow-up to document the moment, the president and kim jong-un walked back into south korea. with a diplomatic journey without presidents. a lot of progress has been made. a lot of friendships have been made and we liked each other from day one. that was very important. president trump said the invitation to meet kim was on a whim tweeting that he planned to visit the pmc with south korea president, with him like to join them. the meeting was supposed to last just a few minutes but it stretched to more than an hour. i enjoyed being with you and thank you very much. the last meeting in hanoi in february ended badly after president trump rejected kim s offer to shatter the nuclear facility and instead only verifiable and irreversible denuclearization would lead to sanctions being lifted. in the and propped today they agree to restart talks that a been suspended since annoyed. today s meeting was a gamble, it could ve yielded nothing and they still lead nowhere. but making history president trump hopes to shake something loose. south korean president had high praise for president trump today saying he hopes the president will finally be the one to bring peace to th korean peninsula. we re still a long way from that but president trump is in no hurry same better to get it right then to russia. chris: thank you. if the hand shake with kim is the image from the strip, the most important development may well be the decision of president trump and president xi to resume trade talks. to discuss that, let s bring in chief white house economic advisor larry kudlow. welcome back to fox news sunday. thank you chris, i appreciate it. what has the u.s. and china committed to as a resume the stocks and is there a deadline for how these talks will go on? first point is to resume the talks as president xi continuing the talks which have been interrupted for a while. it is a very big deal. i think that is a banner headline from this. i think everybody is going to be pleased at that, no promises, no deal made, no timetable, i want to emphasize that, president said several times, this is about the quality of the deal, no timetable, no rush, he is comfortable where he is in any case. i think coming back we will resume the talks, the two teams will begin together in tariffs will not be race, there will be no lifting of tariffs, on the remaining 300 or $325 billion and that is an important concession by president trump. and we also expect the chinese, while the talks are going, we expect the chinese to begin large-scale purchases, imports of the u.s. agriculture products and services. so new talks, no new tariffs and agriculture purchases and the rest of it is going to go on for quite some time. are we talking month or yea years. chris: you said the two nations were 90% on the way to deal before the talks broke down, have the agree to keep the commitment they already made or are we starting from scratch? the president mentioned in his press conference, and elsewhere that he would like to go back to where we left off in early may wherever he was. that 90% of her was fair although the last 10% could be the toughest and there is no guarantee that the deal will go through. it is very important from the american side in relationships with china have to be rebalanced. it is been very unbalanced in recent years. as you know, we have had tremendous problems with intellectual property theft, forced transfers of technology, tariffs, nontariff barriers, various cyber hacking going on and other issues. those have to be remedies. that is a very important point of these talks pre-however, long that may take is impossible to predict but we would prefer to go back, i don t know what the chinese site is going to say and we won t know until ambassador lighthizer executive management get back together with the chinese conference. one thing that we do know is the big u.s. concession is that president trump has agreed to lift his band into allow u.s. companies to sell some products to the chinese telecom giant huawei. here is what president trump said about huawei last month. huawei is something that is very dangerous. what they have done him a security standpoint, from a military standpoint is very dangerous. why is the president agreed to do business again with the company that he says is an extension of chinese intelligent and a lot of people say if huawei products go into other countries it will allow chinese to spy on people using their products. that very well may be. let s be careful here. the president s announcement at these meetings and he was very clear to say that american companies can supply huawei with various products and services, provided that there is no national security issues or problems so the commerce department has already offered a number of general services licenses for some sales to huawei. on the other hand, i think commerce will probably go back after the president decision and take another look. maybe open it up, there s a lot of technology services. you can really find on general markets and we don t think have any national security applications, and i think there s a good chance the commerce department and secretary will open the door on that and grit new licenses pray. chris: let me interrupt, there are a number of senate republicans who are concerned about the idea of opening the door and to some degree lifting the band, i want to take a look at what some of them have said. huawei is a communist party controlled say surveillance agency failed as a telecommunications company for. of our allies decide to trust huawei they are deciding to trust the chinese government with their data. chris: republican senator marco rubio tweeted this after the president s announcement this weekend. if president trump has agreed to reverse recent sanctions against huawei he has made a catastrophic mistake. larry, senator rubio said that the senate will put in place all of the sections despite what the president has agreed to with, he will put in place although the sanctions as a vetoproof majority. i appreciate that, by the way i appreciate the national security concerns. and president shares that point of view. this is not a general amnesty. rahway will remain on the entity list where there are serious export controls and any national security suggestions there will not be any licenses. having said that i think all that is going to happen is the congress department will grant some temporary additional licenses or the general availability, for example, some of the chipmakers in the united states are selling products widely available from other countries and they don t think there s any national security the president will be meeting with senators and others in our own principles are going to be meeting to take a look at this. this is not a general industry, they will remain on the embassy list in the national security concerns will remain paramount.. chris: i want to squeeze two questions in. as you well know, the democrats held two debates this past week and they said for all the president bragging about a strong u.s. economy that it is not working for all americans. take a look. when you have an economy that does great with those with money and is not doing great for everyone else, that is corruption. and simple. we need to call it out, we need to attack it head on. how do you respond to that? i just do not understand. in general, i hear some of it, i see the policies, i see some of the narratives. i don t understand what planet they are describing. the united states economy is booming and is running roughly 3% average since president trump took office to a half years ago. on this business about baptist tradition, the blue-collar workers, the nonsupervisory workers have done the best. they are the ones running wages at three and half percent. their gross and income wages is exceeded the growth of the supervisors, the unemployment rate is low, we just had the best june stock market, the dow jones and over 80 years. that is going to full of the 401ks, middle-class folks, everywhere. chrisi don t understand, these e factual issues. i understand there s a political spin, but these are factual and measurable areas and i would say i do not understand the narrative, we are in a strong prosperity. chris: let me interrupt your campaign speech. is not a campaign speech. i am citing facts and figures. chris: allingham saying, i don t think there s any question, he would agree and i will be talking with tom. later about the economic record. but there is clearly a stark income inequality in this country. there s a time when we have three people in this country, more wealth than the bottom wall 500,000 people are sleeping on the streets today, we think it is time for change, real change. i got 30 seconds for an answer. if president trump is reelected in 2020 what specifically will he do to reduce, not eliminate but to reduce the huge gap between the wealthy and the poor in this country. what we re doing right now, the blue-collar work recovery, the fastest increase in jobs, the fastest increase in wages, those are facts, this goes on for many decades, i do not know what some of the candidates are saying. i don t know what the factual basis is. it s a strong and durable prosperity cycle, i will make this morning, some of the policies i heard are only debates, in my judgment, we do great damage to the prosperity and jobs and income and wage cycle, somebody has to do a little bit of fact checking on what some of these candidates are saying. i would civilly say this, the economy is strong. they get free time. always good to talk with user. we will bring in our center group to discuss the presidents meeting with kim jong-un, it is plain to restart trade talk with china. back in a moment. is that net carbs or total?. eh, not enough fiber. chocolate would be good. snacking should be sweet and simple. the delicious taste of glucerna gives you the sweetness you crave while helping you manage your blood sugar. glucerna. everyday progress since my dvt blood clot i was thinking. could there be another around the corner? 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maybe. when she open the door it is hard to closer. there is a very fine line even the technology of figuring out what eventually might have national security implementations and whatnot. i think it sends a confusing message to the allies because were trying to get our allies to hold the line when it comes to huawei. i don t know that they know where they stand. chris: we were telling the european allies, don t even do business with huawei, don t buy their products because it ll put a foot in the door for them to spy into countries. in other have to look and say then why are you opening your doors to huawei. and we were telling that to the south koreans as well. is extraordinary how much news there was from just this week. i want to turn to a third subject that came from the presidents trip from asia. he met with russian president putin and the two of them talked about reporters and meddling in the 2020 election. take a look at the conversation. [inaudible] [inaudible] get rid of the reporters, fake news and don t meddle in the election. is this just trumping trump and not wanting reporters to tell them what to say or do you see his by play there putin is more serious than that. it s both trumping trump in more serious. it is damaging, it is yes to both. it seems like so many people, especially trump supporters, basically excuse his behavior when he turns to the fourth of july into a term probably, is just trumping trump. but when you snicker with putin about a free press and about a free election, i think it is damaging, it s a sad reminder of how russia is once again poised to interfere in the 2020 election and not seen any consequence and turned of the leader standing up and saying this is unacceptable. i think it s damaging to excuse behavior that contradictory to american values paper this week said, democratic values are obsolete, outdated. and we don t have anybody to say we believe that elections and democracy are valuable and it s why america is a shining beacon to the world and instead he acts as if our credit behavior, putin kills his political opponents and we are playing footsie. it is definitely damaging. we have to wrap up the segment. do you see the joking about the reporters and what some people are saying is almost a green light interfering in the 2020 election. is a serious or other trump critics just never going to like him and reading too much into it. i think the latter part is very true. the president is taking the series stance, remember all the interference in the complaint that the democrats have don don. that was on barack obama s watch. i think he is dealt with in very serious, but some of the banter in front of the press, i think is done in a lighthearted way. , you to agree to disagree. [laughter] everybody agreed to disagree. it wouldn t be a pain otherwise. chris: we will see you later. up next fireworks at the democratic first debate in 2020. harris taking on the race, we will ask him what it means for the race. fact is, every insurance company hopes you drive safely. but allstate actually helps you drive safely. with drivewise. it lets you know when you go too fast. .and brake too hard. with feedback to help you drive safer. giving you the power to actually lower your cost. unfortunately, it can t do anything about that. now that you know the truth. are you in good hands? every day, visionaries are creating the future. so, every day, we put our latest technology and unrivaled network to work. the united states postal service makes more e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. because the future only happens with people who really know how to deliver it. because the future only happens with people there are three words when you live with migraine. i am here. aim to say that more with aimovig. a preventive treatment for migraine in adults that reduces the number of monthly migraine days. for some, that number can be cut in half or more. don t take aimovig if you re allergic to it. allergic reactions like rash or swelling can happen hours to days after use. common side effects include injection site reactions and constipation. aim to be there more. talk to your doctor about aimovig. chris: the democratic candidates squared off for the first time in two nights of debates. it produced a number of consensus moments and raised new doubts about the party front runner. democratic party tom paris joins us to discuss the race of work this stands now. welcome back to fox new fox nes sunday . i want to start with the confrontation thursday night from joe biden and kamala harr harris. there was a little girl in california who is part of the second class to integrate her public school. she was bused to school everyday. and that little girl was me. you mischaracterize my position across the board. i did not praise racism. do you agree today that you were wrong to oppose busing in america, do you agree? i did not oppose busing in america. what i opposed was busing order by the department of education, that s what i oppose. how badly was joe biden who is the democratic front runner damaged by the confrontation? voters will look at everybody s record, and the reality is, every single democrat running for president on the issue of civil rights is so far ahead of where this president is, whether it s fighting for voting rights or fighting to make sure let s not get off joe biden. that will be up to the voters to decide, we have another debate coming up in a month, their all every sigel day, and what voters will do and the reason i m excited about what we had last week, i think voters saw we had a deep bench and are focused on issues of healthcare, making sure this economy works for everyone. those of the issues and enemies. we will get all of that. biden thought he had been damaged, he tried to repair what had gone on thursday night with kamala harris. let s take a look at that. just like senator harris, but we ll know that 30 seconds or 60 seconds on a campaign debate exchange can t do justice to a lifetime committed to civil rights. he said he never opposed voluntary busing but that badly distorts his actual record. i want to take a look at this, in 1975 biden supported an anti-busing measure from then segregationist. in 1976 he entered a block justice department from seeking busing orders in the court to desegregate schools. and biden said this in an interview and 75. i oppose busing, it s a concept that the utility of which has never been proven to me. biden s record against busing is clear. biden overall record on civil rights is clear. in the democratic party overall record on civil rights is clear. and what i always want, when i was running for office and i know what these candidates want, they want you to look at the totality of what they ve done and their career. of fighting for voting rights, fighting to make sure we hold police department accountable. fighting to make sure that women have equal pay for equal work and we passed the violence against women act. vice president biden another democrats have been leading the charge. we have an assault with this president on the basic course of civil rights. that is what this is about. that is what this campaign is going. chris: i am talking about the fight for the nomination within your party and the question is, is the democratic party going to nominate someone who opposed the main tool at one point to desegregate a look schools that is going to be up to the voters and they will look at the totality of everybody s record, what they said, what they have done and who is fighting for them. and on all the issues whether it s economy, civil rights, every democrat has the backs of people and that is what voters will see. chris: does it bother you personally, you re the chairman of the party. does it bother you personally that he opposed the main tool to desegregate schools. it is up to the vice president to explain his position. it is up to the vice president to explain everything he has done in his career. that is what he did friday and that is what he will continue to do because i know how well, he has fought for equality and opportunity and look at what happened with gay marriage. chris: not in this case he didn t, voters will have to look at the totality of the vice president record. in every candidates record. i invite them to kick the tires on all her candidates. the difference between us in this president is not in date on the issues of civil rights. the party of lincoln used to be the party of civil rights in the party of lincoln is that, it s a democratic party fighting to make sure that everybody has an opportunity to realize the american dream. chris: let s turn to a key moment in this week s debate. rager hand if your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants. [applause] chris: every person on that stage, all ten of them said that they would provide health insurance coverage for people in this country illegally either under obamacare or medicare for all, whichever they supported. no talk about preconditions, you have to be working in this country, you have to be paid in taxes, the basic point was, you are in this country legally or illegally you get health insurance coverage paid. and its insurance program, there to pay into it. immigrants including undocumented pay billions of dollars in taxes. and that s the reality. and what democrats also said which is far different from the republicans, if we have a pre-existing condition, you should be able to keep her coverage. democrats believe that healthcare should be available, affordable quality healthcare should be available to everyone and thanks to obama, lbj, medicare and medicaid where 90% of the way there. we are having a discussion about how to get the final. chris: we are talking about whether or not people in the country illegally should get government benefits. remember when president obama told congress back in 2009, here it is. those who claim that the reform efforts would it reinsure illegal immigrants. this too is false. chris: republican congressman joe wilson was called out and quite rightfully so for shouting out in a speech to a joint session of congress, you live. the fact is, ten years later joe wilson is right, about where the democrats are now. democrats believe you should be able to buy into a new health insurance. were in a different era. what we re doing right now is the right thing to do. why is a different era from 2009. i live in a community where if you re pregnant woman in your undocumented, we provide you with access to healthcare because we believe that having good prenatal care is an essential healthcare issue, it s an essential issue of economics and in its essential issue of morality. the party of lincoln is dead, and one of the things that died with compassion. this is not hand out, this is allowing people to buy into an insurance program. people who pay billions of dollars in taxes, again i think that is often left upright. another proposal that was widely supported in the debates this week, i changed to the immigration laws. went 70 comes across the border, not to criminalize desperation, a civil violation. as a civil matter, it s important to make this, i did not understand till i looked into it. people come across illegally would still be able to be deported. but you would be removing if you follow what mr. castro says, you would be removing at least the prep of legal action. doesn t that provide a magnet for people to come into the country illegally because the threat of legal action and jail time is removed. here as we were having this discussion about 1325, the reason for having that is a part of the law the secretary castro was referring to. the reason for having this discussion is because this demonstration absolutely abused it, it established the so-called zero-tolerance. the problem with the president is all he wants to do is look tough, he does not want to be effective. we zero-tolerance policy which sounds tough had absolutely cataclysmic impact. that resulted in children being put in cages. if you had exercise the discretion properly as prior presidents have done, this would not happen. the reason we are having this discussion, 57% of all federal cases, criminal cases that have been filed in the last two years have been for entering the country illegally. i welcome a discussion about priorities, that s what democrats want to have. we believe we can be a nation of law and immigrants. we believe we can provide effective due process to people, we believe the reason why this is happening is because and honduras and guatemala and el salvador, the countries are falling apart, the people coming to the border now are families with children, the worked priority of this ministration, the chaos of their policy, that is why we have had this discussion. we should be focused on violent felons in this ministration is focused on separating children from families. i welcome the discussion about a coherent i wish the president would stop tweeting and start solving problems. chris: it s a discussion that will continue. thank you for coming in today. please come back. up next, donald trump was a favorite target for democrats especially on night two of the debate, how well did they do, making a case for a one term presidency. the sunday panel returns next. ts available 24/7. it s not just easy. it s having-a-walrus-in-goal easy! roooaaaar! it s a walrus! ridiculous! yes! nice save, big guy! good job duncan! way to go! 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know at this stage. it was not good by any stretch of the imagination by joe biden. but this is the beginning of what a long process it will be competitive. i saw a handful of candidates who really should be on the stage and i feel like biting will be part of that, he will have to work hard to hold the front runner status. during the heat, a lot of this i didn t know or i forgot, during the heat of the battle over bussing in the 1970s, the situation was so egregious with the segregation in the schools in delaware of biden s own state, the court ordered that black kids from the inner city of wilmington should be bust out to the suburbs and white kids from the suburbs should bust into the inner city. a lot of folks who did not know his record, now do know it. what a great will that hurt his standard in the black community. i think it was known by a lot of people. this is a totally different state she is running for president now. and so much is he s running for president as an extension of the fact that he was the first vice president with a black present. and so much of joe biden support right now in the polls which had a 30% compared to, i think it s more 10% higher than bernie sanders, is based on black support and going to south carolina wary of a large black electorate in the democratic party. it s very important, i think it s so important that the civil rights icon, jim clyburn, making deals with segregation was necessary to gradual civil rights advancement and it is not fear to go back and say we have a black lives matter stated, anybody playing around with racist is an unacceptable person. an older black leader in the country do not take that position. unit is nelson mandela. sometimes you have to negotiate print. let s turn to another issue. all the focus on biden there has not been a much attention to the democratic attacks on donald trump and the debates this week. take a look at this. the american people understand. trump is a phony, a pathological liar and a racist and he lied to the american people during his campaign. how strong do you think, this gives back to the issue is discussing with larry kudlow. for all the presidents talk about the strong economy that it is really working a lot better for the wealthy, the top 1% that it is for all the working people donald trump said he is going to protect. either democrats talking to democrats, there is no doubt they could go to the ends of the earth earth and they will continue to do that. but they re very ineffective. i think after the two nights of the debate the president is stronger politically than he has ever been before. hit a great time and north korea at the summit. in the economy is doing well, they can try to draw all the stats, but larry kudlow will come back with other stat and i think most people across this country when they see the debate and they see everybody raising their hand in the priority going to illegal immigrants and giving them free healthcare as opposed to the hard-working americans, that does not resonate with america. you think the trip administration is doing a good job with delivering on healthcare for americans. we see democrats raising your hand in unison that they want to get free healthcare to illegal immigrants, that is nothing about homeless veterans i think there is no plan after talk of repeal and replace of obamacare everybody, democrats all want to get rid of private insurance. that is not -. chris: let me get julian into this. you hear what larry kudlow says, the numbers, facts are facts. unemployment rate is low. gdp growth is strong. wages are rising. it is true but not working for working america. i think it s really tough, it s kind of the same argument that mitt romney made in 2012 running against president obama when the obama economy was recovering quite well from the financial crisis. he tried to say, things are going well but they could be better. it did not work then and i don t think it ll work now partially because unappointed numbers are so low. partially because that s a difficult argument to make to the market people. the numbers do not lie at the end of the day. what is true, and in empirical fact that there is significant gap in incomes between the lowest income earners in the 1%. i think we voters show up on election day, they will be paying attention to their wallets into whether their families are making progress or not and i think it is going to be a strong democratic argument it is not at all, part of the reason that you have inequality is because wages have been going up in this part of the economy is stagnant for 20 years. where families are struggling to meet basic needs. those things over the long-term for democrats will play out in the economy. the economy is not the stock market for most americans. we are talking about on a plum as well print. unemployment at low wages is really great. i think that americans understand if you re unemployed and making $7.35 an hour that is not putting food on your family stable pre- income redistribution is not the winning formula. democrats argued that they want to raise taxes, get rid of this they prioritize illegal immigrants, they want to get rid of 180 million people have private healthcare and transfer they want to get rid of that, they want to raise taxes, they laid out on the table, they want to raise taxes, that is income redistribution. they want to make sure that the people at the top are paying their fair share so that it really does benefit working people. that is really pretty simple. more government and more taxes. iraqi people understand that if you have people at the bottom who are not making a fair wage and cannot take care of their families that attended the data actually hurt you and trust me, all the millionaires and billionaires that can afford to give up a little bit to make sure that the market people have healthcare and childcare in the things that meet their everyday needs. more government and more taxes is not what i m looking for. healthcare when you talk about paying for school, tuition debt, i think the american people should say something is wrong because the average families are struggling despite all the talk of a great stock market. stock market is not doing it for most people. i am glad we settled all that, nothing more to discuss. unfortunately we have a year end have to discuss it. thank you opie and we will see you next sunday. up next the power player of the week. washington new archbishop on the nation s capital after a series of deeply troubling scandals. let s be honest. it s kind of unfair that safe drivers have to pay as much for insurance. as not safe drivers! ah! that was a stunt driver. that s why esurance has this drivesense® app. the safer you drive, the more you save. don t worry, i m not using my phone and talking to a camera while driving. i m being towed. by the way, i m actually a safe driver. i m just pretending to be a not safe driver. cool. bye 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what you say about the failings? following the disaster, the issues that cardinal faced for magnified because they were already shared with the committee that was deeply wounded. in memory. speaking. holding listening sessions with priest. discussing all the church scandals. they tested your faith in the church as an institution? they haven t tested my faith, they tested my patience. as head of the nations capital, gregory has to deal with subjects beyond the region. his support path to citizenship as part of comprehensive immigration reform. a time when people crossing the border illegally is highly charged. when you hear the president talk about an invasion, does it disturb you? anyone who denigrates the people who seek a better future, a more positive way of living further family can denigrate them as one. is in sixth grade when he transferred from public school. he decided to convert to catholicism and become a priest. i thought about becoming a priest before i thought about becoming catholic. it would be helpful to be catholic i was a priest. if you re interested in being a preacher, we have to take this step-by-step. you can t steal first base. the archbishop of washington is traditionally elevated to criminal. gregory would be the first african-american cardinal ever in the u.s. he says he s in no hurry to change the color. i think you would be very disappointed if he struck me here and i got a bad case of scarlet fever. my first concern before i think about a color that i might wear is to care for the people that are here right in front of me. he spent 14 years as archbishop of atlanta and thought that would be his final assignment. as he says, the holy father had other ideas. that s it for today. have a great week. we ll see you next. have a great sunday! 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